Social media is ruining women, and porn is running men.
Not so long ago, if you liked a girl you had to tell her face to face, even if you anted to talk to her on the phone you had to get her her number. Now the risk of being rejected face to face has been eliminated, while at the same time the chance of her to reject you grows exponentially. When I grew up I probably had half a dozen guys interested in me at a time. I know this now, but back then they had to face their fear and make it known to me to have a chance. So fortune favored the bold. The guy who made the move won. Nowadays girls have full inboxes, and get tiny dopamine hits overtime someone likes their instagram photos or texts "Hey girl", so of course their egos run away with them.
In my day 13 year old boys had to jack off to Victoria Secret magazines or scrambled porn, nowadays they have smart phones and unlimited computer access to hardcorepornography 24/7 . How can we expect boys going through puberty to exorcise moderation? By the time their 14 PinV doesn't do it for them, they're looking for S&M or Beastiality or some other kind of fucked up shit, and then they're confused when they can't get hard for a flesh and blood girl in front of them.
Meanwhile they've all gotten along into adolescence with minimal human contact. They game online, shop online, email their teachers, text their friends, they don't sit for hours at a time in silence reading books because they can get the information on their phones in 5 second bits in between checking their tinder/insta/snapchat/facebooks. No wonder they have no attention span. No wonder they burn with rage at the lack of human warmth and intimacy they receive.
What do we do, guys?
We don't do anything. Every generation has been fucked in one way or another. Plus you're generalizing as if kids today all have zero social skills when this is far from the truth. Are they on their phones a lot? Yeah, but so what? 80 years ago it would've been newspapers. I'm surrounded by young people in real life who are all outgoing and ambitious and making real impacts every day in the outside world. That's not to say this generation is without fault or that modern technology doesn't pose some social risks, but overall I'd say it's pretty much as good as any other in human history.
>What do we do, guys?
you can go learn how to troll worth a god damn
i personally am going to go find another thread to shitpost in after telling you to kill your dumb self
Well I guess there's nothing for the majority of the citizens of this board to do, because it depends on how we raise our children.
Newspapers aren't really comparable to cell phones. You didn't see toddlers 50 years ago in strollers at malls, restaurants and theme parks reading newspapers. Ever go into a restaurant and see 80 percent of the children from the age of 2 to the age of 18 READING BOOKS? Also you don't get a tiny dopamine hit in your brain 20 times an hour from reading. And this doesn't even address the porn problem. I am gladdened by your description of the exceptional youth you work with, and I sure hope you're right, but that doesn't address the porn issue.
I don't care. Fuck you, anyone reading this, and everyone else just for giggles. My happiness is all that matters. Me spending my time doing nothing is what I want. If you're of the opinion otherwise you're just an idiot, which is ultimately fine because someone has to make the world go round. Though really no one does and people are starting to realize that. The next however many years are certainly going to be interesting if nothing else.
>What do we do, guys?
Why should I do anything? I've been a shut-in since before the internet became so widely used. The problems you speak of affect people who otherwise had the potential to have a social life. I'm not one of those people.
If you're happy in your current state, then I don't see why you should assume I was implying otherwise. If you're happy alone, or unable to reach arousal, then that's fine.
ButI have a suspicion that many of the men on this board, the virgins complaining about normies, and how women are sluts, are the same men at risk of committing violent acts agains innocent civilians. This is detrimental to society, just as every human who contributes nothing to it.
If you're happy, I'm happy. but are you an asset, or a liability to your fellow man? Not that YOU should give a shit, but the rest of us certainly should.
I'd say I'm an asset since I work and pay taxes and that is the extent of my involvement. I have no obligation to change the world, nor do I have the means to do so. People will do what they want and I see no reason why I shouldn't do what I want.
Well then you're good. You don't have an obligation, but some of us are concerned. If you work and pay taxes there is no reason you shouldn't do what you want as long as you're happy.
I'm worried about those who aren't happy. Those who have depression or anxiety due to improper socialization and who, as a result of meds, or isolation become homicidal or inconsolable. Those young men who won't be able to find a woman who isn't always looking for the next best thing on Tindr, and those young women who will have to live their married lives sexually unsatisfied because their husbands are addicted to anime porn.
There's a fair possibility that modern civilization crashes in the next 50 years due to an unsustainable demand for finite irreplaceable resources like rare earth minerals and a collapse in biodiversity, so in that case these problems are moot.
OP here: I'm a legit normie, and I've been on this board since 2008. I'm a "gentleman" and I'm just reflecting on what I see going on around me. Frog-posters think they're the real citizens of this board, but they're not.
Inaccurate. I have a perfectly satisfying nuclear household. I'm not jelly, I'm worried about the society my children will inherit.
>are the same men at risk of committing violent acts agains innocent civilians
Only a minority of us losers actually resort to violence. And the minority that do are usually doing self harm.
Literally only 0.1% of the 0.1% that commit violence actually go on a killing spree.
Nice try making stuff up.
You can't deny that there are more ad more people committing mass violence these days. I feel that there is a more than proportionate number of these people coming from this kind of lonely frog-posting culture. I see it on this board constantly. People angry that society excludes them, people angry that women shun them, people angry that they are bullied, or that their families don't understand their anxiety, or that they're expected to get a job. This is the place to address this subject.
Self-harm tends to lead to the therapists, which leads to the drugs, which leads to the harm of others imo.
>I'm worried about the society my children will inherit.
Then answer this:
Why the fuck did your generation push for the establishment of this progressive and liberal society? It was your generation that give rise to personal sexual liberation. Did you guys not foresee that prosperity leads to degeneration of society? You should have kept individualism in economics, but you let individualism infect personal freedom and so people become distant to family and escaped into materialism.
So why did you guys vote and push for this future?
>you can't deny that there are more ad more people committing mass violence these days.
I agree, the trend most certainly shows an increase in the amount of incidents that happen annually.
>I feel that there is a more than proportionate number of these people coming from this kind of lonely frog-posting culture.
Of course, do you think stomping down on a human for 22 years will result in a peaceful person? Its no wonder why some of us get physical.
>This is the place to address this subject.
This is the only place giving inside to how losers think, but considering this is 4chan you will have to look deeply to get through the ironic shitposting and eventually see genuine posts.
It's easier to study wizchan, as they have less shitposting.
>Self-harm tends to lead to the therapists, which leads to the drugs, which leads to the harm of others imo.
This might be the case, but clearly its the minority who aim their hatred at others.
>It was your generation that give rise to personal sexual liberation
Holy shit, I'm not THAT old!
>people become distant to family
Well I was raised by white people. Why would I want my elders living in my home? I'll pay for babysitting, thanks.
But I don't think moat of that is relevant to the feeling of uselessness which is infecting so many of our working age males
Why would I want to do anything? What has society ever done for me?
I doubt that I'd ever commit violence myself, but I am definitely callous and depraved. The horrors that others experience actually amuse me at this point. I should feel shame at that, but I don't. First, tragedy became mundane thanks to mass media. Then, the overblown reactions of the public made it comical. I was "gifted", apparently, but society did not see fit to invest in me. Naturally, I feel disinclined to "invest" in it by performing the most menial and thankless tasks with only decrepitude and death as rewards. I have worked, and I was an exceptional employee. There was no reward for that. I was simply exploited for all that I was worth, and treated as any other employee when it came time to mete out rewards. It was demeaning, physically injurious, and frankly beneath me. I now prefer death to labor, and would do my best to kill any person who attempted to compel me to labor. I have no desire to spend my life being ordered about by people barely fit to command fleas. I wanted to be loved once, but that did not happen. Now, I don't think that I'm capable of wanting anything. Even simple pleasures have lost most their appeal. I see no future in children, since I will have none. I see no future in society, since the one I envision disgusts me.
All that I can really ask at this point is to be left alone to wallow in the miserable ruin of my intellect until my inevitable death.
There was a time when I would have considered myself fortunate to be loved even by someone like her. It seems absurd now.
My parasitic lifestyle is its own form of violence, committed without ever raising a hand. The little outbursts of the angriest defectives mean nothing. If every one of them acted on their violent impulses, they could not inflict the damage in a decade that we degenerates do in a single year.
>What has society ever done for me?
Do you have running water? working toilets? Access to health care? electricity? Fucking wifi?
Typical first world whiners. This is exactly the problem, with our society. You are exactly the problem.
So I guess we have to decide what we can do to placate and satisfy your pathetic ass.
You're just bitter about being a worthless failure. You say you're intelligent and that physical labour is "beneath" you, but where is the proof? Have you ever done anything in your life that is actually meritorious? If you really were so impressively smart, surely you would have something to show for it, right?
You also seem to have rationalised your terrible state of affairs into an act of petty rebellion against society.
Access to running water, electricity and health care isn't dependent entirely on your ability to pay for them. It's largely dependent on your being born into a society with the infrastructure already existing.
unless you're going to tell me you were born in a slum made of corrugated tin drinking water out of polluted streams, the established infrastructure of your country including free elementary education is largely responsible for your ability to make your own living.
>You didn't build that.
But none of that actually means anything and are basically base comforts?
Why should I give a flying fuck about any of that if I don't have any way to pay for any of it that doesn't involve me spiraling into debt with no guarantee of a job or getting a piece of shit job that will make me want to kill myself after a couple years working it?
Some of us have hopes and dreams and aren't so close-minded we're absolutely in awe of the fact that we live in one of the few non-shit societies thats STILL shitty enough to not even be worth living in.
The crime rate has been decreasing.
I won't be surprised, though, if female alarmism/hysteria leads to some kind of action like it did with booze prohibition.
The Internet should probably be 18+.
Really though I just hope to see some kind of male liberation regardless of the cost. Women are a pain in the ass. We can imagine better women.
>The Internet should probably be 18+.
There is no and never will be a technology that could enforce this effectively. Why not put the responsibility on the parents how it should be?
Let the parents teach their kids moderate usage of the internet, and parents can more easily restrict their time and what websites they can visit.
It is true that someone like myself could not exist in a less luxuriant society, but neither could the many causal factors of my defective state that you most likely wish to retain. As for me and my kind, we are irredeemable. You will either have to find the moral authority to combat us, rejecting the liberal nature of your society in the process, or accept that your weakness grants us leave to do as we please.
There is nothing that needs to be proven. My self-estimation is hardly objective, and I don't believe that I was ever particularly bright. I'm not a rebel. I'm simply taunting. Whether you think that manual labor is actually beneath me or not, I refuse to do it, and clearly I am just bright enough to avoid it.
OP, you bring up some good points and I can tell that in essence your heart is in the right place. If anything you recognize a societal problem that most "normies" would just laugh at.
What can I say though, as you said social skills are getting poorer and poorer yet the ego's of some people get higher and higher. We are the social media generation and it has created a void in which some thrive and the others simply can't keep up. All the people here still long for the warmth and comfort of belonging, but it just hasn't happened to us. All these years of negative experiences has culminated into this asocial bubble that we can't seem to get out of.
You recognize the problem, yes. But given your status and age, you can't empathize with the situation here. At this point most of us just don't know what we're doing wrong, society is simply not working with us.
What are we to do when we keep on getting rejected and excluded? We build a barrier of sorts, we tend to automatically recluse as a defense mechanism as to avoid more and more of these toxic experiences that other people simply aren't having. We're still human beings and a lot of us still have these basic human desires, but we're in a position where we are powerless to do anything realistic; so we drown our sexual needs in porn, our social needs on image boards like this, general unhappiness leading to drug use etc. We obviously have some sort of mental health issues, but even that is such a fucked up process; with therapy doing fuck-all for anyone aside from just being friends for hire, and so called "medicines" with effects unknown to anyone. Then add social media on top of this, making all this a meme. How can we even take anyone seriously, including ourselves anymore.
But this the reality, and we're all powerless against it. The accepted will thrive, and people like us are simply taking space, occupying ourselves with these technological distractions until we wither away.
I hate this statement. As though it's men, and ONLY men, that porn is ruining. Turns out the three most searched terms by women who look up porn (at least according to one study) are "BBC" (Not the news), "Lesbian", and "Gangbang". I'd say that's pretty far off the mark of just vanilla "PinV".
Yet, I don't entirely disagree with you either.
"PC is the LSD of the 1990s" -- "Turn on, boot up, jack in." Yeah, that was same motherfucker that said, "Turn on, tune in, drop out" in 1966. While originally referring to hippies and LSD culture, it evolved to also be used to reference a generation raised by TV and video games. The very same generation that happened to sire most of us...
I doubt there's any fixing our broken ass society without something drastic happening. Like, being nuked back to the pre-industrial revolution. >>25741436 (Basically this.)
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>prosperity leads to degeneration of society
Oh look, it's that guy. Want to explain to me how Africa/South America/Middle East/Southeast Asia/Eastern Bloc/Etc are just the hub of civility and how their society manages to run like a Swiss watch? You know, considering.
And the other guy.
Infant Mortality Rates (IMR) in the US. US = 5.97 Deaths / 1000 Births
While that's not bad at all, it's still (38th) behind places such as Cuba, Croatia, Estonia, Cyprus & Singapore.
Literacy Rates in the US (Supposedly 50th)
As in 2008, roughly 15% of the sample could function at the highest levels in all three categories. Roughly 50% were at either basic or below basic levels of proficiency in all three categories. [The] study showed that 21% to 23% of adult Americans were not "able to locate information in text", could not "make low-level inferences using printed materials", and were unable to "integrate easily identifiable pieces of information."
Percentage of People living in Poverty in the US (CIA Factbook says 15.1%)
I honstly suspect that figure of being much higher than reported. However, this still places us lower than places like Serbia, Tunsinia, Taiwan, Slovenia, Russia, Azerbaijan, Vietnam, Pakistan, Morocco, Malaysia, Kazakhstan, Indonesia, Albania, and Lithuania.
Beautifully written. Can't upvote, so have a random pic from my folder.
>By the time their 14 PinV doesn't do it for them
This is also has a lot to do with how in America the majority of boys have their primary erogenous tissue cut off.
A lot of people think the glans is the most sensual part of the penis, and it's not. It's one of the least sensitive.
The main pleasure centers are in the foreskin.
Sex is supposed to feel PHYSICALLY really good for a guy, the whole time through (not just the cum).
When he has his main erogenous zones missing, some evidence suggests it's harder for him to get interested in normal sex. MGM victims are said to "engage in a more elaborate set of sex practices". This was considered a "benefit" in the paper I read where they mentioned that, but I think that's bullshit.
Sex is supposed to FEEL amazing. In the penis.
Guys get told "the biggest sex organ is the brain" (which is a total cop out and distraction). So if they can barely feel anything in their dick, can you blame them for trying to engage in enough mental stimualtion to get some pleasure out of sex?
for clarification--the glans in a lot of men is plenty "sensitive"--to PAIN.
But rubbing the glans feels like shit. The glans isn't where the pleasure comes from. The pleasure comes from the ridged band and the frenulum.
Having the glans rubbed feels like fuck all at best, or like getting sand in your eye (except it's your dick) at worst.
I love how we don't talk about this.
"Female genital mutilation is so sexist and barbaric!" - Pretty much everyone ever.
"Eww, your dick isn't mutilated." - Also pretty much everyone ever.
I had this same conversation with my therapist today. His heart is in the right place, and I respect that...but it's just not the same, and that's not his fault.
Frankly I don't even know why I bother with him or the meds anymore. A part of me is still human enough to hope I suppose. "Maybe one day" being the only thought keeping me still here...
I've discussed this a lot here, I'm usually saying nofap and noporn are bullshit, and sfter a lengthy discussion I came to realize the guy I was talking to was 18, and I was 27. He said it's different for me since I didn't grow up with porn like he did so I wasn't really addicted but it super duper cereal porn addiction and ed exists. I"m still skeptical but I wonder how much that has an effect on things. I mean I came across hentai of Kasumi when I was like 14, and Cammy, and one time even a real girl. The images are burned into my brain since they were my first exposure, but I still jack off to imagination quite often, and if I do use porn it's still images, not video, and nothing kinky like findom or racecucking.
I remember using myspace a lot but only making a facebook as a joke. About the time I entered college is when it really got on everywhere, and shortly after that it was mainly an old person thing. From what I understand everyone uses twitter, instagram, and kik now. Facebook is only old people. I don't play the social media game preferring good old fashioned sms, But I just wonder how big an effect the generation gap is. I'm often shocked and appalled when I looks at my nephews school work. It makes the /pol/ dystopia pastas look like best case scenarios.
I used to think trp and mgtow was just fun and all, but ultimately a decision to be arrived at independently and doesn't need much proselytizing. I've since changed my mind. I know word choice is important, especially with thesjws and such trying ot twist words around, such as friend zone going from emotional and sexual manipulation for free shit from betas to ebil sojinist shitlord feeling entitled to sex bcuz niceguy. MGTOW has somehow picked up a connotation of sour grapes and incels even though PUA is inseparable from the movement, one of the core tenets is pump and dump, or at most fwb. For this reason Roosh has tried coining the neologism neomasculinity. I don't know though.
i guess everyone forgot that we're all living on borrowed time, essentially, and that fossil fuel reserves are going to run dry at some point.
Bill Gates is spending billions on energy research. i have a feeling it has something to do with humanity's downward spiral into the Feudal Era.
He said FGM, not specifically removing the clit. FGM is usually exactly the same as MGM, removing the prepuce. The clitoris has a foreskin just like the penis. But because magic it is somehow considered worse to cut a girl than a man.
I miss fapping to discarded VS catalogues. Those were the days.
Read on Calhoun with mice experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#Mouse_experiments
Which generation are you referring to OP? Because apparently Generation Z got the Internet but without social awkwardness because they use shit like snapchat, facetime, and Skype. Honestly I have faith in any Generation that's the spawn of the Silent Generation. Generation X is about to be the wealthiest generation ever and they raised Z.
>Removing the Clitoris and removing nasty dickcheese retaining skin are not even comparable.
Do you have even a shred of objective scientific evidence that a woman's clitoris is more sensual or in any way more important than a man's ridged band? If so I'd love to see it.
>Nobody likes a snuffalupagus dick for a reason, they are gross and often smelly.
They're only "gross" if you've been conditioned to see them that way, and genitals are supposed to have a smell. That's healthy.
Or are only women supposed to be allowed to keep their "gross" genitals, whereas men have to have their penises reduced to half-numb shadows of a real dick?
The foreskin is the place where most of the feeling in the dick comes from. The glans feels of barely anything. It's a useful structure for the inner foreskin to be stimulated against, maybe it pleases the woman when it's inside of her, and it provides some visual stimulation.
But it's protopathic. It has very little in the way of erogenous nerve endings. It's primarily sensitive to pain.
Its like you haven't even read about it.
Female genital mutilation is WAY worse, because uncircumcised dicks are universally agreed upon as nasty. There is nothing wrong with natural vaginas, but dicks most certainly DO require an aftermarket mod.
I watch fucked up porn to get off (mainly trannies fucking dudes) and have zero social skills as I spent my entire childhood on Video Games. Any girl I approach rejects me instantly as they have massive egos (most of them).
Deleting all social media is the first step to recovery. I deleted Facebook over 5 years ago now and feel so much better ever since. Though, that hasn't really helped me much anyways as I'm still a loser, virgin.
We need world war 3 to img society back to shape. Unfortunate what might actually happen is that Islam will take over and eventually Western culture will he weeded out. Justly as Rome fell, Western civilization will.
How to fix this:
>remove age of consent
>remove all of womens rights
>make it so women can be bought at shopping malls for a modest sum
There. Now boys can buy themselves a wife for a cheap price at a young age.
Mental health is getting fucked up by technology just as physical health got fucked up by processed junk food. People need to be educated about self control and taught the negative impacts of behaviours.
That's not to say its easy, I have tried nofap and I know how difficult it is. I worry about porn addiction for men, i think it kills our motivation and makes us depressed and less attractive to women.
If you don't know about Nofap: http://yourbrainonporn.com/
I am not too concerned with peak oil. The problem would be easily fixed in 20 years at most. Already much of the population lives in cities. The car culture may die down some unless electric cars become viable, but we have nuclear and solar looks like it could soon be feasible source of energy. It's ridiculous that people commute for stupid long times. I've done it myself. I live inawoods, and drive 45 minutes one way to work. Once I'm a nurse I plan on moving to a city, getting a carbon fiber strret bike, then a little aluminum bike to convert into an electric bike and not even owning a car. I like country living, but it's just not practical until you're retired enough to fully enjoy the land. Small communities can work. We need to bring back the plazas, drastically change cityplanning to favoring foot traffic and cars, without all the faggy hippy bullshit the few human based city planners like to push, and get people to stop being so retarded. That last one is the hardest, but people respond to pressures as it occurs. We'll get by, but not until we have too.
Computers are a good example. We've sank so much into silicon that noone wants to use diamonds, even though they are better in every way at being semiconductors, and we can produce big enough wafers through vapor depostion. If we put serious effort into nuclear energy and new semiconducting materials we could enter another golden age. Instead everyone is concerned with women getting paid to have casual sex and allowing homosexuals to prance around church and promise the government they love each other 5evr, and that black criminals matter and dindu nuffin. I mean I get it, social activism is easier, just plug your ears and play make believe. They only serve to regress society and hold us back. Look at asia, they are retarded and can't invent anything because they are all obsessed with toeing the line. They've effectively neutered their zeitgeist.
I think mental health is also getting fucked up by overprescription of psychiatric medications.
Psychiatric drugs in the US are barely regulated. The generics often aren't the same as the name brands but a lot of doctors and pharmacists are ignorant of that fact.
The FDA is sleeping on the job. We're also getting loads of psychiatric drugs imported from India and China where manufacturing and quality testing standards are a complete joke and there have been tons of cases of the manufacturers falsifying the drug equivalency data.
Yet no one's really talking about this and teachers and parents and doctors are rushing to drug the fuck out of kids with barely regulated stimulants and antidepressants from India and China.
industry and civil services aren't gas, nuclear and solar powered, though, they're powered by oil. garbage trucks and city buses don't run on nuclear power.
fixed, sure, i don't know about "easily" and any number of unforseen events could happen.
street bikes are just as bad, if not worse than cars, didn't you see Myth Busters bro?
nice post, though, i liked reading it.
I am actually well read in genital mutilation. I'm a member of multiple bodily integrity activism groups. Naturally I care more about mgm, but the groups I'm in stand against FGM as well. It's not nearly as big a deal owing to it's rarity, especially in the developed world. The social attitudes towards it are ridiculous. There is serious jail time just from pricking a young girl's hood with a needle to draw a single drop of blood, symbolic of ritual mutilation, yet the total excision of the male prepuce is seen as something normal. Are you a female? The issue is simple, don't sleep with intact guys. Are you male? Easy, get cut if you like the aesthetics so much. It becomes wrong when you force your sexual preferences on others who you will never even see or know their name, much less suck on their genitalia. I'm fine with genital mutilation if the individual chooses it for themselves. I've seen wilder shit on BME. It's when people are strapping children down and ripping the prepuce from the glans it is fused to without anesthesia that I take issue with.
Thank you for this, anon. A very thought-provoking video. Pretty much speaks to my original post, we are definitely in the exploitation phase due numerous factors, however I will argue that technology is making this even more prominent. It doesn't mean technology is inherently bad, it's just a necessary evolution when taking account of this experiment. We're just the ones who are suffering for it.
More info on data falsification from Indian drug companies
The drug industry is absolutely fucked. Yeah, Ranbaxy had to pay 1/2 bil. How much profit did they make from selling the bullshit pills though?
Did the people who were sold the bullshit pills (thereby having their health or even their lives put at risk) see any of that money? I don't think they did.
Honestly I don't even think it's video games, porn and the internet that have fucked up boys. Stuff like that will always come in one shape or another. In my own opinion the ONE ABSOLUTE thing that has fucked up alot of boys these days is the public education system in America. It's fucking horrible what the schooling system has done to them.
I do think AoC should be abolished, it started out to prevent early marriage and allow women to be indoctrinated with compulsory education institutions, but as much as I hate women I think they do deserve some rights. Not necessarily suffrage, but they should be allowed to manage their own affairs and be protected from murder, rape, assault, theft, etc. I don't mean he-looked-at-me rape or assault with weaponized tweets. I mean honest to goodness beating or forcible sex against her will outside of marriage. Think the non-aggression pricniple libertarians like to go on about.
Buying women at a market would remove the power from the family unit and patriarch as the moral and sexual protector of women and replace it with corporatism and commodification or women's sexuality even further than it is now.
Fair enough, but if we have nuclear submarines I think we can figure out nuclear trains for the transportation of goods and people. Garbage is a big issue, but a cultural shift from this consumerism would cut back on garbage a lot. I can't think of any effective solutions for that though. People seem to enjoy disposable shit. They act like I"m wasteful because I buy fancy expensive flatware sets or use borosillicate food storage instead of dollar store tupperware, and pens and pencils really piss me off with how wasteful it is. If people would spend the money on a nice pen they'd have a nicer pen, and over decade it would actually be cheaper than constantly buying a new pack of bics.
I don't see how bikes could be as bad or worse than cars though. I didn't see mythbusters. Could you give me the tldr? Bikes really limit you to keeping within a 10 mile radius of where you live, and offer excellent health benefits on top of just being fun.
>there's nothing to "combat" anyway since its our decision to do all these things.
Your "decisions" are caused by the interaction of your genetics and your conditioning.
This is very obvious if you take 5 minutes to think about it.
We're conditioned from the moment we're born (maybe even in the womb).
Your conditioning actually causes physical changes in your brain and changes in genetic expression (look up epigenetics).
Your brain is what thinks and what makes you make one decision or another. What you do is caused by your brain, which is shaped the exact way it is, with the exact levels of this and that neurotransmitter and all that other stuff, based on your genetics, and the experiences you've been subjected to, including media.
Yes, we are not really overpopulated in a confined environment (like ie Japan is) but the tech like global network broke the social behavior and more people are withdrawing with no interest in mating or social life.
>Ask any schoolchild why they don't like school and they'll tell you. "School is prison." They may not use those words, because they're too polite, or maybe they've already been brainwashed to believe that school is for their own good and therefore it can't be prison. But decipher their words and the translation generally is, "School is prison."
>Willingham surely knows that school is prison. He can't help but know it; everyone knows it. But here he writes a whole book entitled "Why Don't Students Like School," and not once does he suggest that just possibly they don't like school because they like freedom, and in school they are not free.
>Everyone who has ever been to school knows that school is prison, but almost nobody says it. It's not polite to say it. We all tiptoe around this truth..because telling the truth makes us all seem so mean. How could all these nice people be sending their children to prison for a good share of the first 18 years of their lives? How could our democratic government, which is founded on principles of freedom and self-determination, make laws requiring children and adolescents to spend a good portion of their days in prison? It's unthinkable, and so we try hard to avoid thinking it...
>But I think it is time that we say it out loud. School is prison.
>If you think school is not prison, please explain the difference.
>The only difference I can think of is that to get into prison you have to commit a crime, but they put you in school just because of your age. In other respects school and prison are the same. In both places you are stripped of your freedom and dignity. You are told exactly what you must do, and you are punished for failing to comply.
>At some level of their consciousness, everyone who has ever been to school knows that it is prison. How could they not know?
>good old fashioned "modern society is corrupting us all" alarmism
These sorts of people seem unaware that they are part of a long and proud history of doomsayers.
It seems like every new technology is going to be the "great satan". The one perversion of nature that will finally rob us of our humanity, and will do away with the old ways.
And next in the uncountably long line is the internet.
Traditionalists are so set in their ways, only they could deride the unprecedented sharing of information and ability to connect all of humanity as somehow "evil".
And they say weird, counter-intuitive things like we are getting dumber, more close minded, more egotistical because we can learn more.
You say that we are getting more closed off, but step outside and look at kids today. Almost all of them have a group of friends that they meet face-to-face and online. They date and get girlfriends, and break up, and move on. They study, and go to college. They turn out be a very varied group of people, with a wide range of values and lifestyles. Just like they were 20 years ago, or 50 years ago, or 100 years ago, or 1000.
I'm not really seeing that much corruption and degradation. It seems to me that you are all just projecting your own problems onto other people. And naturally, you need something to blame your problems on.
Sometime in the future, there is going to be another fantastical invention that comes along, even more powerful and even more terrifying than the internet. Surely, whatever it is, will be the the ultimate degenerator and rotter of brains. And there are going to be a whole bunch of people like you telling us that.
Well, I don't agree that school is a prison. It's quite important for children to get a proper education. Problem is that Common core is absolutely fucked and that alot of little boys seem to be treated like dysfunctional little girls. So when those little boys act out, they get put on a whole host of mind bending drugs that turn them into fucking zombies.
the number of men going to college is dropping
the age at which men are losing their virginity is getting higher and higher
more and more men are single and earning less than ever before
I think these are signs of the effects of pornography and sapping of motivation.
yeah its so good that in 50 years americans would be outbred by mexican migrants and
in EU white people would seize to exist (Germany already has lower birthrate than Japan! despite all the turks they've accepted in last 20 years)
it's been at least 6 years since i saw that episode, desu with you. it was something like bikes are more efficient, but the exhaust they spew out is way worse than what cars put out because of the filtration.
i can't ever see anyone believing me if i told them i don't drive because of the environment.
>Well, I don't agree that school is a prison. It's quite important for children to get a proper education.
You can be educated without having to go to school. The Internet is everywhere. Libraries are everywhere.
I can't think of one thing I learned in school that I couldn't have learned outside of it, and a lot of what I learned in school wasn't even true.
I was forced to spend my childhood in a dismal building full of douchebag teachers and douchebag kids, learning all kinds of bullshit like
>"Columbus discovered America"
>"Columbus discovered the earth was round"
>"Snails can leave their shells at will"
>That stupid "tastebud map"
>People from Spain "talk with a lisp" to imitate a long-dead lisping king
>"The Puritans came to America because they believed in religious freedom"
Just loads upon loads of utter bullshit.
I learned more from books and the Internet than I ever learned in school.
The markets will crash, the status quo will be upheaved, flames will rain from the sky, the "happening" is right around the corner to be sure.
Try not to lose too much sleep over it, you know, just in case the collapse of civilisation doesn't come.
I also remember in science class, we were forced to copy "motivational" poems by Edgar A Guest every fucking day for no reason.
And then memorize the periodic table.
All of this shit is useless for 99% of people and the tiny fraction of people who could derive some use out of things like that could do so at home with a computer, or at a local library, or even with a smart phone.
>"So, your kids must love the iPad?" I asked Mr. Jobs, trying to change the subject. The company's first tablet was just hitting the shelves. "They haven't used it," he told me. "We limit how much technology our kids use at home."
Steve Jobs never actually knew how to create technology, so it make sense. He was a buisness man and a genius marketer and also 'muh visionary', but he was some Tech wiz like Bill Gates of Elon Musk.
This would explain how I've been fapping to porn for nearly 20 years and I like the same porn as ever (which kind of sucks, because porn has changed and I haven't, with pubic hair becoming rare). I always thought the "move on to more perverted porn" meme was bullshit, but maybe it's true for mutilated people.
I've been browsing 4chan for like 8 years. I've fapped to SOME SHIT. Regardless, at the end of the day nothing gets me off like a big booty POV.
I mean I've fapped to some shit man, but porn addiction is a lie.
Threadly reminder that circumcision has been proven to permanently mentally affect children in addition to the already known physical effects.
Threadly reminder that this is covered up by the jews.
Bikes as in pedal bikes obviously. Motorcycles have no health benefits (although I approve of them so long as they don't have anti-socially loud exhausts ("loud pipes save lives" is a lie, if anything it kills people because of distraction and stress)).
>what do we do
Let them rot. a lot of them still have jobs and make life easier for the rest of us. starting a company is easier than ever before. i have 2 and my wife "owns" another one making money without doing anything.
desu i had porn all the time too because i'm only 25. but i played sports and learned social skills by wanting to fugg when i was a kid as well. porn is only ruining weak men. propaganda to turn them gay or trans is only ruining weak men. if it disgusts us, i have the feeling they would have been disgusting either way in their overall weakness and low aptitude, even if they followed in our footsteps awkwardly.
>all that other stuff
needless to say, you're a lazy bum.
life is convenient for anyone in the first world, yes, but that doesn't mean we don't learn what the right and wrong decisions are in terms of our health and social status. if you think that any part of your life is negative and it was your actions or inactions that led to it, then yeah you have no one to blame but yourself. even if someone handed you a better life you'd continue making bad decisions until you throw it away.
>needless to say, you're a lazy bum.
Ad hominem trash.
>life is convenient for anyone in the first world
>but that doesn't mean we don't learn what the right and wrong decisions are in terms of our health and social status.
A lot of what we get taught in life is complete bullshit and lies.
>if you think that any part of your life is negative and it was your actions or inactions that led to it, then yeah you have no one to blame but yourself.
"My" actions are caused by my genetics and environmental factors, just like everyone elses.
>even if someone handed you a better life you'd continue making bad decisions until you throw it away.
Unfalsifiable trash, but let's entertain it anyway.
Even if I did do that, there would be causes for it, and those causes would be my genetics combined with environmental factors.
>to exorcise moderation
Yes. Exorcise it. Destroy it. Leave the taboo restrictions of our caveman ancestors behind us. Evolve.
I am so grateful to have had access to the Internet as an adolescent in order to imprint on the fourth circuit, and move on the fifth.
We need a sexual revolution. Men's rights and a completely different take on "women's rights" that isn't tumblrite shithole
>I deleted Facebook over 5 years ago now and feel so much better ever since.
Do people not know that Zuckerberg literally called Facebook users "dumb fucks" for trusting him with their information?
Or do they know and just not care?
In my day you needed to be able to write passable English to be respected on the Internet, now you just say "I'm a gurl gibe attention plox" and people come running.
Source: this fucking post
There was nothing reddit about this post. OP repeated the previous generation" meme which is literally older than Socrates.
Please, the absolute worst thing that school can be for a little boy is "boring", but if you don't provide that structure in his life, all hell will break loose.
Oh shut the fuck up, billions of people have gone through the school system just fine. It's up to the parents to give the autists and bad-asses an alternative.
Why is everyone all cuckolds? Normies, people on 4chan, the Jews, etc are all cucked and you know why? Because they never had a mighty war. We need another WW1, WW2 or Vietnam or someshit.
Two trillion dollars and ten years in the middle east isn't mighty enough for you? Fucking get your dad's gun and go shoot up your board game circle if this is how you and your friends feel. The day you encounter real death is the day you will have adult opinions on this topic. When that day comes, kill yourself.
>Please, the absolute worst thing that school can be for a little boy is "boring"
No, it can be far worse than boring.
>but if you don't provide that structure in his life, all hell will break loose.
You provide no evidence.
>billions of people have gone through the school system just fine
I don't think American society as a whole is fine, anon. I think it's fucked up, and I think school has a lot to do with it.
I want tradcons to leave. Society is shit because:
>1. It exists in reality, which is shit.
>2. It's made of people, who are shit.
Unless you propose some way of fixing both of these things, you should probably just avoid having kids (unless you're an asshole who wants to create a consciousness only to watch it suffer) and enjoy the shitshow as much as you can from the safety of your home, until you die and are free from this mess. I mean really, let me summarize the standard human experience (3rd worlders don't count, fuck off):
>2. Tutorial mode: learn how to not shit yourself or fall on your head
>3. Get forced into school for 12-20 years, where you want to fuck but aren't allowed to fuck, and you want to leave but aren't allowed to leave
>5. Get forced into work for 30+ years where you have to constantly avoid making mistakes. Remember, one "oh shit" is worth a thousand "atta-boy"s.
>6. Collect injuries and health problems
>7. Become unable to work
>8. Wait for death
Is this something that needs to be continued? Is this something that should exist?
>where you want to fuck but aren't allowed to fuck
This did the most damage
>what do we do
WE are going to do nothing because we're fucked and there's no point in even trying.
Thanks for this video. I'd read about this experiment some time ago, and it's never far from my mind when I hear about all the mass shootings that are so prevalent these days. It's a lot harder for a young person these days to get their piece of the pie, and to have their place in society.
THIS ALSO is something we should be talking about. I agree one hundred percent that over-prescription of these drugs is a huge problem which is contributing greatly to the mass shooting problems we have in the U.S. These drugs fuck with your brain chemistry in ways that are not fully understood, and impossible to accurately predict. Many of them have side effects like "suicidal and homicidal thoughts" printed right in the literature. Depressed people, for example, were only ever a danger to themselves, not so once you start throwing pills at them. Doctors are pressured by the pharma companies, and will write you a prescription for something like this after chatting with you for all of ten minutes. When you've got a dozen people backed up in your waiting room you're really just trying to move everyone along, not like we don't love the promise of a quick fix in a bottle ourselves. These drugs can be a miracle for some people and a nightmare for others, and it's complete crap shoot.
All in all though, I'm happy with all the insightful comments ITT.
yeah, so it seems like you just figured out that your quality of life and happiness is largely dependent on luck
But even if our lives are 100x better than those of starving Africans, we live in America and our lives are at the bottom of the scale here.
Dunno what you call this genre of music but I really enjoy it.
>inb4 some variation of "fag music"
>be horny teen
>fap to magazines
>get internet for the first time
>fap to lesbians, naked women and ecchi
>then hetero sex
>then hetero hardcore sex and hentai
>keep going more hardcore
>end up fapping to sissy stuff, gangbangs, interracial, GGG, bukkakes, /d/, bestiality, jailbait, facialabuse etc
>try prostate stimulation, cumming in my mouth etc
>can't even fap to softcore or lesbian anymore, doesn't get hard
>now I fap to pics from my oneitis
I've gone full circle breh
I was happier spiraling down with twisted porn though
>tfw no gf
Mate, texting friends is what kids do when they'd otherwise be bored at home alone. Then in the weekends or after school they actually go and hang out because that is still what teenagers want to do. Are you so fucking disconnected from the world that you think kids are socially satisfied by texting "lol check out this pic"?
>Is this something that needs to be continued? Is this something that should exist?
It always existed in one form or another. Society is a reflection of our biology and will only change if humans change.
Prometheus Rising, free on Principia Discordia, I will finish dumping what I SSed tho
Try to train your mind to say "biosurvival tickets" instead of "money". Your world will change
>only 72% of the tax dollar
Isn't it over eighty percent now?
I've met a lot of people who became "conspiracy theorists" when they became parents. Learning that SIDS is caused by our childrearing practices is like a punch in the throat to a new parent who has been taught to dread their child just dropping dead "for no reason"
Childhood access to the internet lets young humans escape the open gate to the corral
I'm aware people still hang out, but the nature of relationships has changed. People asking each other out over text, fighting over text, breaking up over text and then being unable to get over each other because they're checking out each other's instagrams all the time.
So many are afraid.
Very good goyim! Wrong we can start the day of the rope by hanging greasy hooked nosed porn producing kikes and that filthy yid mark cuckerburg by the balls and start a new society not based off materialism, hedonism, violence and greed.
Excellent book, though light on how to actually reach the higher levels.
> be naturally on 3
> meditation grants me regular access to reprogramming and occasional access to quantum information
> have never been on the happiness level
> don't think I've ever reached the akashic records either
What do you mean by naturally on the third? You have definitely imprinted the fourth, all not-retarded humans alive today have imprinted the first four circuits.
Did you mean you FAVOR the third, you are a "Rationalist Robot"?
Modern society is death, but it's not like we would've been happy in the 19th, 18th etc. centuries.
I really thought about this, and the only time I could ever be happy would be during an apocalyptic, status quo shattering scenario like the Russian or French Revolution or 1920s Germany, etc.
>You could always move to Syria or something.
I was considering going to Donetsk back in '14, but I was an 18 year old American with no military experience so that wasn't realistic.
I feel this way too, but for me it would have to be the whole world and everyone in it subjected to a state of chaos.
It forces you to live in the moment and abandon all hope for control of the situation; thus a weight is lifted
I've often been very calm when shits hit the fan, mostly because shit's finally hitting the fan and it's out there in the open,
happening now, this instant. No hesitation, no second guessing, no anxiety of what could come. It's here now.
I find myself the most stressed when things are going fine, but there's the potential for something shitty to happen.
Once that shitty thing starts happening, I often get relieved.
HAHAHAHA Let this fucking world burn.
There is nothing of value worth saving. All I think about day in day out is suicide but I wouldn't want to miss the chance to see this world destroy itself.
You made your bed now lay in it.
There's nothing to do OP. The next generation (hopefully there will be a next generation) will come and set things right. Hopefully. Until then, just try not to kill yourself. The only thing more dangerous in our world than any other time period is suicide.
Unless we seriously fuck the earth and cause the oceans to acidify, a loss of biodiversity still won't be too bad for the first world. The third world will be a complete shit show, but the first world will always be fine. Even rising sea levels we can survive.
Also, we have plenty of the finite resources. Rare earth minerals, for example, are only so rare because digging them out is immensely costly and destructive to the environment, so only places like China are willing to do it. If we ever were at such a shortage that we desperately needed them, we could tap into our own reserves. Shit, we could even explore Antarctica and turn it into a giant mine shaft.
Sorry man, but our decadent, dying civilization will linger for quite a while.
"Boohoo all women are whores that's why they don't like pure little ol me!" That's just not true, I'm not exceptionally handsome and I didn't have my first kiss till I was 18, no gf until I was 20 but now a few years later I'm in an ltr and we're both as enamoured with eachother as day 1. If all you think about women is that they're just places to out your penis in then you're just thinking about it wrong. Id feel sorry for you robots if it wasn't so damn funny how big a case of sour grapes you all have
Fuck off. This thread isn't about women, but modernity. I don't think about women, because I've given up on something so unattainable.
Modern life, and maybe even life in general, is shit overall. In almost every aspect, it's fucking miserable and yet you think this is solely about women. Fucking projecting retard.
>its our decision to do all these things.
Whatever you say, Mr Shekelstein.
Capitalism is a flawless system after all :^)
Ehh, I don't care.
I really, honestly don't care.
But, I'm black, so I had nothing to lose anyways, we were already fucked a few generations ago. The rest of you need to get your shit together desu senpai.
normie faggot go home. this our board not yours. get fucked by a arab and then get into a car and drive off a cliff and break your bone then go to hosiptal and go the top and trow yourself off like the faggot fagmeister fagging faglord you are.