Hey brobots, let us have an actual serious discussion for once.
Do you think that if women were domesticated like animals everyone would benefit from it? Just like back in the medieval times?
Personally I do think so, would like to hear your opinions.
>inb4 thread dies because it's actually board related and serious and isn't frogposting
No, because women are humans, not animals, and deserve to make their own decisions.
It's not like every male is a shining beacon of wise decisions either, there are a lot of people who fuck their lives over due to emotional stuff like insecurity, apathy etc. Yet no-one is suggesting that their right to make choices about their own lives should be taken from them and they should be forced into a permaservant position.
Women weren't domesticated in medieval times. Men still has to court them and they had chivalry. Power class women were working on farms, taking care of the house and children. Upper class women were educated so that they could make their husbands look good when they socialised at their rich fancy parties.
Do you realize that animals are annnoying as fuck? You get tired of your cat or dog being retarded after a while, sobwhy are you going to give a woman an excuse to act retarded?
I question the education of r9k plenty
Women are perfectly capable of being given freedom, suppressing that would be more unhealthy. Plus it's not your right to suppress women or anybody unless they are a danger to themselves or others.
You have not explained why you think it would be a good thing.
This thread shows more than any other than all the true robots have been driven off this board. Fucking normies
When can we get a board for real robots?
Instead of just constantly stating you hate women and think that's a good thing, explain WHY you think so. If you don't have good reasons I expect you are just shifting the blame for your own insecurities onto them.
>50 minute porn
>guy jerks himself off at the last 5 seconds
>tfw youll never finish yourself off inside the mouth of a 10/10 goddess as she looks into your eyes and swallows
WHY FUCKING LIVE?
you guys think you would get any even average looking women? nope, if you were lucky maybe some 50 year old landwhale who has given birth to 12 children
remember that the top 5% own 95% of the wealth, if women were just material goods this would go for them too
why are you incapable of explaining your point of view? I mean I get you just want to release some frustration, so making a post on r9k gives you that I guess. You feel you are shouting at the world, but nobody out there really cares. Do you want a solution for your anger and frustration? If you are younger than me, I cant tell you that life doesn't ever improve just by unleashing your anger or frustration. Take positive steps not negative ones. You don't have to believe women are wonderful either or become some white knight. That's not what I'm saying.
if we could domesticate women with no consequences, we would also enslave the weak men. there's almost no benefit we get from women just being used for sex while we feed and house them. most would just be slaves as well for easier labor. your scenario is fucking retarded. a handful of jealous leaders would just work you to death while fucking a handful of beautiful women and killing off the rest.
>No, because women are humans, not animals, and deserve to make their own decisions.
We can breed them with monkey until find the right type that doesn't have any rights. Problem solved.
Wow, it's called evolution you dumb fag. This also applies to men as well, where there is a fork in the gene pool. The two main forks are ugly fat/wimpy asses that are more intelligent, organized, manipulative hence their prominent numbers in the population. The other is large, more primal fuckers. The problem is however that there is more margin for genetic error (strictly speaking out of reproductive problems, not morphological e.g. uturis problems vs ugly ass face ) for women since they invest more in offspring than men do (for homosapians).
No, but men should be a slave class with less rights than dogs since almost all violent crime is committed by men and they tend to go a bit crazy when not having physical labor to do as seen with mens online culture.
Dude have u been on this board for 2 seconds go to a woman hate thread... Or go meet a girl like I'm basically Chad and I fucking hate women anyone who isn't autistic/deluded hates women
U sound like a total beta autist so ill break down why people on this board hate women.....
Start in high school when the robot begins puberty. Chad begins crushing pussy while betas like you begin their never ending quest for """""love"""". At this point the robot is jacking off constantly. Shunned from all normal society he builds up walls online where he hears the stories of betas like you who finally had sex... And to their surprise the woman was a whore and dumped them for Chad.
As much as I would like to keep women as pets/servants I must admit that employers benefit from their labour and the wage-depression they cause. I suppose this is a net gain for the economy and society as a whole due to having more well-educated adults. However, it also seems that the vast majority of women being homemakers represents an improvement since it means that a single income can support an entire family.
fembot here. this thread is just sick
the reason we are more vocal nowadays is because we just recovered from centuries of misogynistic abuse. I know r9k doesnt like that word but sorry it's true.
if you actually believe in that, you should be castrated
>they are a danger to themselves or others.
You said it yourself Brochaim. Look at where women have taken society since they got political power. Declining birth rates, depressed wages, mass immigration, increased state welfare, more fatherless homes, mainstream culture has become extremely pornographic and deviant, they have eroded social supports for men and derided masculinity to the point that it is only ever portrayed as a tool for women or an outmoded absurdity.
>not the same as men
>deserve the same treatment by the law
The only way you could possibly believe this is if you had inferior genetics. Even ugly socially inept people had gfs in high school, but you're so incapable of attracting a girl because your personality and world view have been warped by taking ironic shitposting about a beta uprising at face value. Now you think that you're owed sex for some reason but in nature you would be the deer that doesn't mate. Your family line dies with you.
I must say all the hate around women on this sub is wrong or biased. Reason being majority of people are selfish. Almost everyone you'll meet throughout your life will, at the end, care about himself more than anything else.
And somebody who loves you unconditionally is as hard to find as a diamond: Family bonds aside. (Mother, father, brother, etc.)
So of course "women will be bitches", so will we, men.
The main difference between the two genders is that men's inteligence tends to be either really high or really low, while women are often in the medium. While this information may seem useless or out of context, that's why we most of the time see the opposite gender as something so far away: Because those that think about this are the inteligent men, the "low iq" ones won't even care or think about it at all. They actually are quite in sync with women.
So I don't think "we hate women", it's just that to us, they're stupid, they care about things we don't, we don't understand them. I dont feel like writing a lot more about this right now because I feel nobody will read me anyways.
>declining birth rates
that is not necessarily a bad thing, but to change it we should stop stigmatizing stay at home mothers and help women balance job and home life
dont blame women for the bad economy
this is something the business community and government push, mostly men
I agree this is a problem, but again I dont see how women are solely to blame
we are to blame for these problems, we are too selfish and with better education and culture it can be solved without the need to suppress people's rights to freedom
>he thinks women were domesticated like animals in medieval times
stop believing the lies m8 and take the real redpill. Christian women could inherit and rule lands, pass down titles, and worked alongside men in the field frequently. In most countries an arranged marriage was illegal unless the bride consented. Women typically had fairly liberal rights in most of Europe compared to the rest of the world despite the black legends surrounding the medieval period.
In many battle speeches given by Saladin and his commanders, they talked about how disgusted they were with the liberties of Latin Christian women. Christian women often administered their husband's lands while he was on crusade, but some of them followed their husbands into the field. A wife was often counted among a feudal lord's most trusted advisers, sometimes even in matters of war.
Queen Isabella of Castille wore a suit of armor and participated in the siege of Granada, she bandaged the wounded with her own hands and inspired her men through speeches and virtuous acts. Mercenary captains under her command spoke of how she inspired her soldiers more than any king of Europe could, probably because she was a qt zealous girl who told her men to slaughter all infidels for the glory of God and country.
Silence, you insolent, sub-human swine. Men have created society and technology as we know it today, so you can fuck off with that "stupid boys will be boys" horseshit. Women need to be treated as pets; lesser than the will of their master. Both parties would be happier this way, and if you don't realize this, you haven't seen enough.
I should go into detail on somethings which will help explain why women's rights are a bad thing for society. I'll start with mass immigration as that is the one you seem to understand the least and it is inseperable from some of the other issues.
Basically mass immigration is a symptom of the declining birth rates. I agree that falling birth rates are not theoretically a bad thing. However, they have fallen below replacement which means that there will no longer be a labour force strong enough to support the amount of welfare that Western countries have come to enjoy. Mass immigration is the quick fix to this problem but as we have seen in Rotherham, Cologne etc it creates huge problems of its own.
So why are women responsible for it? Simply because they are the majority of recipients and advocates of state welfare and their participation in the workforce depresses wages. When I say that I am not referring to the present economy. Before women became a significant part of the workforce and started taking the same jobs as men a single income could support a family. Now two incomes just barely do that. Clearly a regression has occurred. So now we are in a state where men and women compete with each other for ever smaller pay and women have the benefit of high being supported by the state to a greater extent. This makes it difficult for them to start families particularly in their most fecund years. Now marriages, and parenthood are postponed until their late twenties to thirties. Even more people are childless than ever before.
The third reason why women are at fault for mass immigration is that the same welfare that they advocate for, attracts immigrants. Merely being attracted wouldn't be an issue - the problem is that women support 'altruistic immigration' much more than men, particularly young single women. That lowers the bar and allows unproductive, frankly criminal foreigners to take root in the country.
>No, because women are humans, not animals, and deserve to make their own decisions.
They may look like humans and talk like humans, but they are in fact as smart as a dog.
Just because your dog can't talk English doesn't mean it's dumb. It's as if not smarter than Stacy.
Why fartherless homes are women's fault.
So I was going on about state welfare which women are crazy about, it plays a part in this too. It encourages women to be more blase about becoming single mothers by providing an artificial support to them and in effect replacing fathers as breadwinners. To an extent women's participation in the labourforce has the same effect. Single mothers are not good for children. They grow up poorer, less well educated and less emotionally and mentally stable than children with whole families. It isn't a model for producing capable citizens.
So why blame women? Because they have more choices. When there is birth control, condoms, the morning after pill, abortion and foster care it is impossible for a woman to become a mother by accident. Taking that into account it is clear that fatherlessness is largely a decision that women make.
> we are too selfish and with better education and culture it can be solved without the need to suppress people's rights to freedom
It is women who are too selfish. They have harmed society with the freedom that they were granted and there is no sign that they will stop. For everyone's sake their rights should be revoked.
It's very likely that woman are the root of all evil and bad things in the world.
Even the monotheistic religions figured this out.
So OP, yes, woman should be hold like animals and have only the rights of an animal.
I am sure that in future this will be reality and we can buy women at women markets.
They could make all the stupid or hard labor and robots would whip this evil creatures if they try to resist or bitch around about their "rights".
Because he sound like he thinks about this opinion - the rest of the thread (and the board, frankly) is shit.
Evidence is a thread where OP starts with calling for a serious thread, only to follow it by a statement that a 13 year old would make, or someone who has never interacted with a woman in his life.
The redpill reddit is unreadable because of the angry men, but there are some actual economic and sociological things going on that lead to the creation of /r9k/ in the first place, but nobody here seems to have any attention span to think about those topics whatsoever.
Its true women are more in favour of welfare but its not a huge number more, e.g 45% of obama voters were men.
I agree with you about single motherhood and it's correlation with crime is not talked about enough and feminism has some blame for extolling it.
I kind of agree with your points I just wouldn't say that women are to blame though. Men are socialists, men support immigration, men leave women to raise children alone. Men are not getting married or having kids.
I think it's better we go down this road where women have freedom and work it out, rather than go backwards and somehow force them to all be housewives. I don't see that working.
We men need to take responsibility for changing the culture and educating women. I try to tell my sister about the threat of Islamic immigration and how not all cultures are equal, and some of it gets through. Women are not closed books.
>We men need to take responsibility for changing the culture and educating women
This. Men go around shouting women are inferior, teach women nothing or don't even try, laugh at them when they are wrong and get angry when their psycbobabble is taken seriously.
If you want to make change you need to do it yourself. Just proclaiming "I'm male and better than you" are words that get you nothing but scrutiny.
Then again most men aren't that intelligent either and most of r9k does not have the intelligence and knowledge to make anything better that isn't for their own selfish gain. I say selfish not to be insulting but to recognize it would only benefit themselves.
>Men are socialists, men support immigration,
True, they are also the majority of nationalists by many orders of magnitude. At the protests in Cologne women rallied for their rights and protection then locked arms with the antifa idiots and protested the anti-immigration movement. Women clearly cannot be depended on.
>men leave women to raise children alone.
Cases where the children are not infants and the Dad just ups and leaves are rare as fuck. There is absolutely no reason for a woman to raise a child she does not want. Society has provided ample opportunities for women to forgo maternity at any point.
>Men are not getting married or having kids.
C'mon I JUST talked about this. Men aren't getting married because it's not financially viable. Even ignoring divorce rape a young man has to spend a long ass time in education just to make a salary that can't afford a house. Why is that? The workforce is artificially swollen by women and taxes take money from men and gives it to women which discourages women from getting married early.
For what it's worth I AM fighting against women's rights. You can't educate women out of their nature.
Eh fighting against another humankinds rights is a but much. There isn't a need really unless you actually want to take responsibility for half this worlds population.
You would probably stunt much of this worlds motivation, emotions can be powerful or fleeting and they can inspire people to do a lot. That's why people say they've aspired to do x or x because of their families. Etc.
What is your idea for what would happen once women don't have any rights? Or if you've said it already link the post.
>Just like back in medieval times
NO, IT WASN'T LIKE THIS BACK THEN YOU DENSE UNEDUCATED SHIT
>work in the field from age of 6
>cant waste time and energy to have sex
>work work work
>the only thing you eat is porrage all life
>eat meat like once in a year
>neighbour has a daughter, you marry because your families know themselves and need more workhands
>have some seckses to produce children
>die of various diseases and overworking at the age of 22
>father teaches you how to be noble
>learn to read and fight with sword
>neigbour baron has a daughter (who may or may not be absolute uggo)
>you are forced to marry her to unite your fiefs
>she may or may not be your relative
>you have a bit of seck, not much because pope says its only to make babies
>live your life away and die of diseases connected to overeating, die in war or maybe our father does some treachery and the king cuts your head off
> >cant waste time and energy to have sex
>>the only thing you eat is porrage all life
Nah, meat wasn't as expensive as in roman times and fishes were a thing too
>>neighbour has a daughter, you marry because your families know themselves and need more workhands
Arranged marriages inside third class were a meme too
>>die of various diseases and overworking at the age of 22
Memed again, peasant's weren't slaves in quarries, so overworking weren't a thing. Higiene was also better than most people think. Avarege lifespawn is low because many people died at childbirth
>>father teaches you how to be noble
No, ypu were sent to some guy court instead, and became a page
> >you are forced to marry her to unite your fiefs
>Man old enough to marry and own land
>Forced to marry
>>you have a bit of seck, not much because pope says its only to make babies
You forget to say that pope installed a monitoring to check of you don't secks to often
and besides, if you're a noble and the Pope is bothering you too much, you can always become Protestant
>What is your idea for what would happen once women don't have any rights?
I think women would become homemakers. At least most of them would, the others who can compete fairly, without crutches like diversity quotas, would work. My vision isn't much different from the pre-suffragette era with modern technology that actually lightens the load. I think most women will work part time - they're already the majority of part timers so that isn't going to be a tough sell.
Implementing it may not be as controversial as you think. Start by scaling back quotas and entitlements that give women an advantage in education and employment. Encourage people to start their families young by giving them tax breaks and subsidies for housing etc, and by getting rid of no fault divorce and exorbitant alimony. Generally I want everything to be more balanced, I think women will naturally take less significant roles in labour and government once they are forced to compete with men without their privileges.
>Women had almost as many rights as men,
Bullshit. They couldn't own property and they couldn't divorce.
All rights and control were the husband's, according to the law set by the Catholic Church.
In the books, women could divorce but in practice that was far from it.
Also women were treated more harshly in sexual crimes and were often the target of sexual violence.
>medieval lies: The post
First, don't believe Catholic propaganda about women participating in battle. It wasn't true with Jeanne d'Arc and it isn't true with Isabella.
Christian women didn't really have ownership of lands unless they were patricians themselves.
The average women had far less rights than men. And their sexuality was more controlled. Read Aquinas' Summa Theologiae where women are described as more sinful and that's because Eve cause the Fall. Many theologians thought like that and that was the pervasie idea about women (even going back to Ancient Greek).
Women were seen as sexual animals who needed to be controlled. The chastity belt were worn by women. Crusader knights made their wives wear it when they were away.
Christian historical revisionism is downright disgusting and so is the recent "Medieval times were amazing" you poltards tend to spout.
The average lifespan is low because not a lot of people lived of old age.
Are you seriously so retarded to believe in medieval times the percentage of surviving 50 and 60 year olds are as high as today?
>inb4 you take the surviving adjective off and you argue that there are less young people today
>Arranged marriages inside third class were a meme too
They were not. Most marriages were arranged, but not necessarily forced. Arranged =/= forced.
The political marriages were certainly forced. Of course there was a good portion of arranged marriages of peasants that was forced. It's hard to go against culture.
>women are described as more sinful and that's because Eve cause the Fall. Many theologians thought like that and that was the pervasie idea about women
>Women were seen as sexual animals who needed to be controlled.
They aren't wrong.
>Christian women didn't really have ownership of lands unless they were patricians themselves
Not that important since hardly anyone owned lands.
>Just like back in Medieval times
You mean back when everyone in Europe was Christian and respected the Bible and the Church before it became corrupt?
You have this twisted view of the Medieval ages if you think something like that happened then, women had just about the same rights as men, European men and women treated each other as equals for the most part, and they all followed the Bible.
The shit you're talking about and all the sexism etc, loss of womens rights was more modern age thing, around the Age of Enlightenment and the Protestant Reformation, way after the "barbaric medieval dark ages".
Also, competition for women typically makes men pursue family type, productive lives, which is the opposite of the blood in the sand we have in Islamic countries where women are traded and used like livestock.
No, because every male born will be a stupid piece of shit, because they'll only be able to afford dumb ugly women. The uber rich will have the attractive AND smart men. It'll be even worse than it is now.
Maybe a smart attractive girl will have a fetish for average guys, but if they're for sale, only the rich can buy.
>everyone in Europe was Christian and respected the Bible and the Church before it became corrupt?
whew lad pick ip a history book why don't ya?
>everyone would benefit from it
women and men both do not know what is best for them. this sudden realization often results in rookies thinking that "if someone just governed them, it would be best for them and everyone else."
paradoxically, it is the freedom to make mistakes, be selfish assholes, treat people terribly, etc. that allows us to learn and grow as a species. domesticating women might seem great at first, but would mean the long-term stagnation of our species growth.
>The most challenging responsibility a man has is to treat women as equals. They are far from perfect. But they are in this struggle just like we are. At the end of the day all their bitchy behavior is motivated by the same fears we have.
>We can learn a lot from each other.