>>25706762 exactly, although they are both to the extremes. if ripped was a 1 and swole a 10 i'd probably want to be a 3 or something. although my true desire was always to be a pretty boy, someone who could be a trap if they wanted to. not that i would be a trap. but i'd like to be able to pass for one if i could. before someone says i'm gay, well i'm not really. and it's not like girls don't like those types of guys anyways. anyways, /end rant. sorry for rambling.
People don't look at you and think "oh wow that's sexy" they look at you and see someone who's had their share of beer and then some over the years, but also works construction and probably lifts weights on the side.
>>25707064 I have to disagree, left looks like a perfectly sculpted Adonis whereas a skeleton build is what you see in Africa or concentration camps. Right just looks a fat guy that does steroids and lifts a lot.
>>25707152 >left looks like a perfectly sculpted Adonis That is a man without skin, anon. It is a person who is close to death. You are suffering from the same shit that makes roasties bulimic and anorexic. It is not healthy. That should not be your goal.
Right has stuff wrong with him too, but in the case of "which of these builds is more easily converted to good", swole wins by virtue of you not keeling over of starvation immediatly.
Ripped 'Muh powuh' as he sits on his ass the rest of his day on /fit/ says the right doing jack shit with it Left is style and aestheticism with sharp definition. Beauty and appearance is the only thing that matters in this world Vega>Zangief
Do I want to look like one of those cooked turkeys you see in bodybuilding competitions, or do I wanna actually be strong, man? You know that strongmen are so wide in their midsection is because their core muscles are big along with everything else?
>>25706919 I don't have access to a pool to do laps in and I weight too fucking much to go on a run without injuring myself. I tried to start the one punch man exercise routine when I was reading it but that stopped when my computer broke.
>>25707115 You literally know nothing. Fat and strong people are significantly weaker than skinny and strong people. If you're thinking in terms of a fight, then the ripped guy always has an advantage or the fat guy. The ripped guy is faster, and faster means more powerful striking, smaller target, more mobile. And before you say fat offers protection again punches, it doesn't. Fat makes almost absolutely no difference. A strike to a vulnerable area on the human body is equally effective on a fat and skinny people. To top if off, a fat person has to use a lot more energy to move around than a skinny person.
>>25708879 Most reasonable response in the thread. Look at all the people who lived passed 100. What they had in common was they were smaller and ate less. Dogs are an easy way to see what size does to life expectancy.
Obviously ripped. From an aesthetic perspective it just looks better and I'm never going to be in a situation where I need immense amounts of strength given that I'm not an olympic weightlifter or a fucking 12th century warrior.
>>25708965 You are a idiot who is talking out of your ass.
Mass matters much more then almost all other factors when training is nearing the same level.
It is the reason why there are weight classes for fuck sake.
It is like you have never spared or competed before or something. Lets breaking down to basic physics. Force = Mass * Acceleration when it comes to striking. Has a leverage advantage in grappling, and over all manhandling advantage in all kinds of ways in throws. Someone with more mass has a huge advantage over someone with less mass in terms of a fight generally speaking. To not know this and claim to be a martial artist is shamefully ignorant.
>Fat and strong people are significantly weaker than skinny and strong people. Demonstrably false
>decide to start lifting weights and get bigger >go at it 4 days a week >gorge myself on those days (as in 10lbs of food a sitting, mostly meat) >pack on a lot of muscle, chest and arms explode out of my clothes >obviously gain fat as well >decide to cut down on the fat >feel lethargic and weak >weight I can lift stagnates at best and falls at worst >feel sore much longer >look better in the mirror naked but I feel like a skinny faggot
Fuck it, I'll just permabulk. So long as your belly doesn't bulge out past your chest who cares. I think its actually guys that are more into the ripped look than women in most cases
All the people arguing over who'd win a fight, this is ridiculous. The ability to fight will never matter outside of competitive sport, where you will be sorted by weight. I'd pick ripped because that is what women would want, the ability to pick up women is more important than the ability to fight. We aren't caveman anymore.
>>25709702 Once again, for what purpose? Society has no need for physically strong men, we even invented guns and missles so the army of all people could be weak and still useful. Yet the physically strong remain useless, a form of entertainment at best, what good has he ever done his fellow man in all the time he wasted exercising?
its about HIM not what he has to offer society or his fellow man
that's what he wants to do, that is his dream, and he is following it despite every skinny faggot like you trying to bring him down
he could have every one of his haters hanging off his arms and still be able to walk
i followed him on the bodybuilding forums. every day, they tore into him. did their best to make him feel like shit and give up. instead, he persevered. benched 4 plates for reps at 17(left pic). then, when he was ready, he cut the fat off and that tore the lips off of everyone who talked shit
it was the most glorious thing i have ever witnessed. thats the realest nigga ive ever seen on the internet. a true lion, disregarding the opinions of sheep.
>>25709869 A neckbeards warhammer collection is all about HIM, should I care? A /v/irgins gaming PC that he has worked on for years is all about HIM, should I care? A feminists tumblr blog is all about XER, should I care? These people are all equally self centered, and give no contribution to society, and just like him I give no respect for them as they deserve non. Bottom line is: if you aren't going to contribute, and only focus on yourself, you don't deserve any respect as a human being.
>All these fuckers with body dysmorphia and exercise addiction
Girls want a guy who looks like this. Seriously. I have never met a girl who didn't think climber bodies are the absolute top tier. They are like a strong, well distributed ottermode. Ripped, muscles everywhere, but still slim and healthy looking.
You know who wants a huge barrel chested guy (aka a bear)? Twinks.
Oh, and many of those guys with huge guts and strong arms like the 'swole' picture are like that either because they have internal fat (which is very hard to lose), or large distended organs from roid (aka roid gut).
>>25710001 Down to our level? In modern society the strong are (normally) below the weak, because of how it is structured, we reward those who contribute and punish those who spend their time working on their own things. Why do you think cops, the very people who enforce the law, aren't required to be strong? Because we no longer have need for strong people, they are inferior now, those who exercise do so for the befits of being attractive and expanding their life, if they aren't doing this they are genuinely wasting their time with exercise.
>>25710096 >never net a girl who didnt think that body type was top tier interesting, i know ones who dont prefer it.. but i also know a lot who do, so i guess that goes to show what kinda girls we hang out with anon.
>>25706745 Left, it's more aesthetic and all this fucking talk about how the swole guy can snap people in half is fucking stupid, if you seriously damaged someone you'd just go to prison, where I doubt most people would do well.
>>25710245 I don't think you CAN do well in prison, the best you can do is not get into trouble and hope you can get out with good behaviour, which would be hard for a swoll guy because the other prisoner would constantly be challenging him due to his size.
personally i dont care as much about the functional benefits but the whole thing is more about the looks for me (which says a lot about my personality but whatever) Like i dont wanna die from malnutrition or some shit but i dont really have need for sports/lifting heavy objects or whatever in my daily routine anyways so theres no need to be excessively fit at all. yeah im a pussy ass bitch whatever
>>25710350 (same person) and the reason i prefer smaller is that im not tall so swole wouldnt look good on me or anything. Left is more of a blank slate, you dont have to always show off that youre ripped, you have a lot more options aesthetically speaking compared to right where you cant really do much with your look. i have no idea what im talking about honestly i wear the same clothes everyday
>>25710441 All this proves is that you think "inspirational" quotes have more weight to them than common sense and logic, which only reinforces my point that fit people are dumb as shit and are worthless to society.
>>25710497 If you think dumb people are worthless to society then you're just a dumb. Being strong actually has a purpose in certain jobs. Construction, for example. They have to physically carry heavy things so being strong is very useful.
>The bigger they are the harder they fall, what they may make up for in muscle they lack in speed, you may have muscles but that won't help you when I run circles around you and you cannot even lay a hit.
>>25710612 Construction workers aren't fit though, most of them are complete fatties and calling them strong is a crime. Not to mention modern machinery does most of the heavy lifting, everything else could probably be lifted by an anorexic teenager. >>25710667 In reality the small guy would call the police and the fat guy would go to jail.
>>25710687 >Construction workers aren't fit though, most of them are complete fatties You saw the one fat construction worker so they're all fat, are they? I think I made a mistake responding. You're not even worth it.
>everything else could probably be lifted by an anorexic teenager You're just talking out of your ass. Oh my god. I take comfort in knowing that anybody who has experienced reality will know what an idiot you are.
>>25710716 >fighting >in 2016 >at an age older than 12 You sure got me neckbeard, guess I have to give up my testicles now. >>25710746 I WORK in construction you fucking swine, nothing that I or any of my co-workers lift is any heavier than what a skinny teen could manage, and I know this because we have 2 underweight teenagers working on site doing exactly that.
>>25710872 What you don't understand is that getting fit isn't just about being strong. When I lost weight, I gained a LOT of confidence. How is that worthless? It changed the way I felt about life. I went from useless fucking NEET to trying to do something with myself at Uni. Skinny people who work out to get muscles would get similar gains in confidence. Who are you to say that people shouldn't improve themselves to feel better?
>>25710925 >who are you to say that people shouldn't improve themselves to feel better Someone who doesn't wear rose tinted glasses, has grown the fuck up, and realised that being physically fit is only for sport and attracting women. What you're telling me is that you value yourself purely by how many women are attracted to you, even though you claim to be against that.
>>25710993 >What you're telling me is that you value yourself purely by how many women are attracted to you, even though you claim to be against that Wrong. I value myself by how I see me. I don't care about women. I've never even had a female friend and it doesn't bother me.
You're a terrible person if you're against people becoming more confident by any means necessary. Other than stupid shit like taking drugs, of course.
If you're "grown up" then I hope I never grow up because I don't want to be anything like you.
>>25711036 >I'm valued by how I see me The delusion is killing me right now. Human being are valued by other human beings, what you think of yourself is irrelevant. Men who spend all day at the gym will spend just as much time on facebook bragging about it. If we really were able to value ourselves for who we were and not by how others judged us then there'd be no need for anyone to work for anything, and humanity would be doomed.
>>25711136 You're just not very smart. I'm not saying that I don't compare myself to others. I do. That's how I get the motivation to stay in shape. What I don't care is whether another man gets attention from women or not because I don't care about women. I know that's hard to understand because you're probably a thirsty ass beta but it's the truth.
>Men who spend all day at the gym will spend just as much time on facebook bragging about it It's just sad that you think you know what every man on the planet is like.
If you don't want to work out, that is absolutely fine. I'm not telling you to work out. I'm just telling you not to put fit people down because they're actually trying to better themselves.
You're just bitter and undesirable. Undesirable as a person.
>>25711213 I work for Higgins construction and like I said, there are skinny as fuck teenages lifting just as much as the rest of us, the real heavy lifting is done by our machinery. >>25711237 >I compare myself to other but I don't care what women think Gotcha, loud and clear friend, if you'd have just said you were gay in the first place we could've avoided arguing.
>>25711482 Like I said, and I hate having to repeat myself for people who cant read, it's only dumb when you take it to a level that you have to spend most of your waking hours doing exercise. Where you body literally looks like a ripped potatoe and you stop doing anything worthwhile. >>25711532 If you're 2 maybe
>>25711549 I'd argue that spending all day on r9k is just as fucking stupid as spending it working out or posting pictures on Facebook. The fact that you try to tell people how to spend their day makes you a huge fucking normie. I hope you know that you don't belong here.
>>25711590 I'm not telling anyone how to spend their day, they can waste time on meaningless things if they want to, just don't get all righteous about it like you're doing anything worthwhile is all I'm asking.
I wanna get the lean, male model sort of body but not too skinny in a nerdy type of way how long would it take me to achieve pic related? im skinny and weigh 64 kg... i guess this guy prbbly weighs about 70 kg maybe?
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