If your life is meaningless then it's because you haven't given it meaning. I live to enjoy myself. I used to think being a NEET was all I wanted and I wasn't wrong. What I didn't realise that was that to even live that kind of basic life, I needed money. Which is why I decided to study and get a semi-decent job so I could enjoy life the way I wanted to.
Eating food, drinking alcohol, playing video games, watching movies. All things I love, that make life worth living.
If you don't enjoy these things then figure out what you do enjoy and then figure out how to enjoy it forever. If you don't enjoy anything then maybe it's time to leave.
>>25637357 This is true. I've grown tired of being a NEET, and doing all those things. At some point, I thought the only things that mattered was friends and love, but those things are impossible for me. I want to leave very soon.
>>25637242 Because many normies have realized and accepted the human condition. There is no external benchmark of meaning because the universe is absurdly incomorehensible. As a result, they determine that the only meaning that matters is the internal subjective reason. After all, when you die all of this ceases to exist, so all that matters is how you view yourself while you're alive. It's not intellectually honest, but who cares. No one is going to finger wag at you later if you believe a bunch of shit about yourself that isn't objectively true and it sure beats wallowing in pity.
>>25637534 (Just to be clear: I have never said that 'the point of life is this or that' either. I just don't understand this class of statements. Matter can be talked about, or history, or science -- but 'points'?)
>>25637901 The delusion is that death is the end. Renewed life awaits. You will find a chance to attain it whether you want to or not, but the choice is yours. Follow your desire and never give up on it. The fate that others have taught you is false. You will know a happiness unknown to normies or robots. I wasn't able to find it until I was made plans to die, I wonder if it's always the same for others. I hope not.
matter of fact is without the dreaded sheeple cliche most people are taught how to think and act. The majority spend their entire lives even into old age knowing nothing outside streets, shopping centres and trivial social pursuits.
>>25638103 Objectively speaking a single human could be considered insignificant, even hundreds or more could be according to various perspectives. However from the human perspective it only seems that way. A humans' true potential is so great that the majority of humans can hardly imagine it at all. Your belief that your life lacks meaning is born through the "fate" that others have taught you. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the way that the world around you truly works. While many (normies) have already accepted that fate even against their own desires the people here are generally far more reluctant. Many deny it entirely and resist it at every turn, but without knowing an alternative they fall into immense suffering born from their fear. Their narrow view of future possiblities entraps them. If they would only open their other eye they would see the truly blissful possibilities that await them. The only problem is that no ones ever told them that they have more than one eye to open. It will happen though, there's a right time for everything. The only question is whether or not you'll believe the truth when you hear it. Keep an open mind, otherwise you may reject that possibility that you have two eyes altogether. You'll likely have more than one chance, but continued rejection will lead to a certain death. The death that you desired.
>>25638103 Well it really depends on your perspective. We only have ourselves so its hard to put a quantifiable "value" on a persons life. This is one of the main reasons even I believe in a god type thing. That and i have seen some anomalies that allowed me to see past our reality
>time is realtive >if you were standing outside of this dimension observing it everything has already happened >time would branch out infinitely from every point. >all things are possible
>>25638404 >if you were standing outside of this dimension observing it everything has already happened It'd be more accurate to say that everything possible is currently happening, but of course that would just sound nonsensical to most people. Even if you explain that there is no end or beginning. That only the current moment exists. Hell even I don't really understand it yet. I have yet to experience it. >>25638451 It also proves that non-irrelevance is a possibility. It's up to you to choose life or accept death. Technically not a hard choice, but it requires changing your mind. That becomes far more difficult the older you get.
They do it with fucking everything and I mean EVERYTHING.
>be against the system and for revolution and shit >normies corrupt the group and use it for drink, party and fuck >be a nerd and gather with other bitter, nerds to discuss boring nerd stuff >normies corrupt the group and use it to drink, party and fuck >be some obscure alternative art/music/literature/philosophy/whatever group >normies corrupt the group and use it to drink, party and fuck
They even did it with the internet.
Just fuck normies man. Any group that gets just a little bit of fame or/and is bigger than 5 people will get corrupted and destroyed by them. It's like some fucking rule of nature.
>>25637278 Yep, it was actually really freeing for me to finally come to terms with it, I always knew along we are just lying to myself but now that I can actually say it and mean it, it's like what now? Well who cares because I'll do what I like, other people are not my concern and not my problem. Especially since I am so young, I still have many years to goof off and fart around and get my act together, as if that's the only thing a person can do with their time. I draw, I'm learning music, I smoke a shit ton of weed, yess but it gives me amazing dreams. I'll become something when I figure out why I would want to, right now the only reason I can see would be to try to fit in and serve a purpose, which frankly I find a bit insulting. My ancestors didn't die so I could get a shit job at starbucks and die for the dollar just to feel fulfilled with myself.
>>25640538 everyone is ignorant. i'm really not miserable though. i just don't care. whatever happens, happens. i can't help that i grasp the the most primitive (as much as we can comprehend) idea of nothingness.
>>25640633 How can someone that understands the nihilistic point of view possibly ever just go through the motions? I would find myself utterly silly doing so. The whole "you can't unsee" thing isn't just a meme.
>>25640652 >people Its always about other people. Why can't we ascend past this? Why waste so much of whatever this life thing is worrying about other fucking people. Fuck them. They don't matter anymore than you do.
>>25637242 Because thats wat makes them wake up everyday anon. Actually if they realize and accept such facts i think they'll be easier to let things go and live peacefully at least thats wat i feel right now
excessive introversion. navel gazing mental masturbation for the media drone lost in the cultural desert to justify escapism, jerking off to videogames, spiting images of the cherry-picked worst behavior of people you will never know, this is the greatest logical extrapolation of old maids rumor-mongering in the sewing circle. in short, reflections on the life unlived.
>first ever girlfriend blatantly flirting with other guys at parties and right in front of me but in spanish >was dating my second ever girlfriend for the past year >things are going well for the first half of the relationship, i ignore all the red flags like her going to hang out with other men late at night to smoke weed without me >halfway into the relationship i discovered the red pill on lebbit >always exercised but started to shift into serious weight training >over the summer her dad dies >try to be the best and most supportive boyfriend i can be >shits not the same from here on out >she's staying over at my house less, having less sex with me >shit tests starting to go nuclear, starts telling me not to work out so much >one night i'm tired and going home from class, call her and ask what shes doing and she says she was at a club meeting, now shes hanging out with ___ and ____ in their dorm room "watching netflix and smoking" >i don't blow up yet but in my mind i'm thinking it's over >go to see her in her dorm a few days later, shes rolling a joint and wants to smoke with me in my car >"no, i don't want it to smell" >"fine, then take me to dinner" >"i'm tired and not really hungry, can't we just stay here" i go to hug her and she slaps me in the face >take one look at her and walk out of the room and start driving home >keeps calling me begging for me to forgive her >eventually like a little beta bitch i do, but then i start calling outt her hanging out with other dudes at night >"we didn't do anything i promise we were just smoking. you're not with me all the time you cant just expect me to sit alone" >she's completely adamant about it, i'm trusting my gut especially since she had a crush on one of them in the past and both of them are untrustworthy european faggots >she starts turning it on ME, telling me to go get her flowers and chocolates or else she's breaking up with me. i let her break up with me
>>25641964 >one week later she calls me begging for me back >i tell her i can't forgive what she did, she's still adamant that nothing happened and she didnt mean to hit me >she texts me again two days ago asking if we're really done, i say i need to focus on myself and i'm not ready for any type of relationship with anybody right now
deep down like a little beta bitch i want her back, i just want everything to go back to normal even though she's admitted to me i nthe past she's cheated on two of her past boyfriends and had 11 partners in total, while i've only had 3. i still feel bad for her father passing away after half a year. since last january i've gained over 50 lbs with around 30 of them being muscle, but all i feel is emptiness. i don't want to wake up in the mornings anymore. i can't believe the fucking lies about women that are so ingrained into me by society's brainwashing that i still want to take back a cheating abusive girlfriend.
>>25642001 Man fuck you. I've been reading your belligerent bullshit this entire thread and its really pissing me off. You're not intellectual. You don't know shit. You're a dumb neckbeard with the mental maturity of a high schooler who really needs some ass.
>>25642086 You staying with a cheating bitch has nothing to do with society's lies. You stay with her because you feel like you can't do better, or that you don't deserve better. You let her walk all over you because she knows and you know that you don't have a lick of self respect or the balls to stand up for yourself. This is why she loathes you and is probably cheating on you at every opportunity.
>>25641892 so what? we're all small children. meanwhile all these edgy eighteen year olds are running around acting like old farts. who's the bigger freak here? >>25641926 i don't know what other meaning there is for any biological organism than the filling of a valued niche, being part of a community.
so what if your brain is chemicals? everything is chemicals. it's a useless statement. there's massive complexity in the brain, trillions of connections involving countless combinations of chemicals.
>>25642260 and you don't understand what I'm saying, you're taking it too literally. This world is nothing. you are nothing. what you interact with is nothing. By knowing that how can you just happily sit and play with the (metaphorical) toys?
We're not meant to see ourselves as individuals. We are happiest when we live deliberately as part of a group, and are unable to comprehend living without it. This is the normies' advantage over us and why they will always be happier. Real intellectual honesty would be acknowledging you need to be a participant in society to be happy, and because they do that because it comes naturally to them, they have no need of falling back on 'intellectual honesty' or thought at all.
>>25642579 Well we're not doing anything instinctively. We're not capable of acting by instinct, that's why we're here.
All humans are capable in theory of thinking the thoughts that we think, but because others act instinctively they never have need of thought.
We don't have any exceptional 'abilities' or insights; we're discussing these things because we have no alternative but to.
You're putting the cart before the horse. More intelligent people, for example, are less likely to be socially adept. We see intelligence as a gift but it's really a failure. It obstructs us and means we can't live deliberately.
Intelligence may be an ability, but I think it's an inferior one compared with the ability to live deliberately.
I agree with almost everything you said. It's true that we unlike 90% of humanity (normies) have no instincts. It's true that we are more socially inept etc.. but I disagree on one thing.
>Intelligence may be an ability, but I think it's an inferior one
No. Just no. Better living a miserable life on the red pill than living a "happy" life on the blue pill.
Mind over matter my friend. Mind over matter. Or mind over instincts.
We may be bitter autists but we are also far better equipped to do shit normies can't even fathom. For once we aren't as emotional as normies and can endure isolation far better. The other thing is when you are smart enough you can hack/cheat the whole system and either get rich or if you want to be just as hedonistic as normies go to the darknet and get all the 'feel good' chemicals you want. Or get the best vidya/entertainment you want for free. Or enjoy plots which are too complicated for normies.. and the best of all: We can connect to and UNDERSTAND other intelligent people. That's a whole universe that is totally closed for normies. They can read philosophy but they don't understand it.
Intelligence is never a failure, no matter how many downsides there are. Fuck living deliberately and fuck mindless hedonism. Some of the most brilliant people were the loneliest/most bitter/most miserable fucks you could find. We are simply a part of that glorious tradition.
But if I were given an option to choose whether I should be born or not, I'd have probably chosen the second. For me, it's hard to imagine a death like something non-materialistic. I assume that neurons are decaying, you wouldn't even know that you ever had a life once. Meanwhile, I hope that there is nothing after death, and an ability to think rational is much more valuable than knowledge about fundamental questions and answers.
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