So, I'm trying to make a manga happen. The story's made and the script for the first several chapters has been written, so I'm not some cringy neckbeard with a dream. I legit have it made other than art. So does anyone know...
>How do I find an artist?
I mean, what can I do other than begging. I'm willing to put in some money upfront to make it happen (with specific deadlines), but I'd like to make sure I make a good deal first.
>Can I claim ownership of commissions?
Say I commissioned someone to make a character design. Do I now own that design? Can I claim copyright for that design, as I have writing that shows that it was specifically used for my commercial purpose?
You should probably ask a different board for that family.
I think you can claim copyright if you have them sign a contract, fuzzy on the legalities.
I'm drawing mine myself because I can't trust people.
Good luck with your manga.
The only other board I can think of would be /a/, and I'd never trust their opinions. I would draw it myself, but it would probably be faster and cheaper to just hire someone to do it for me.
I already write regular stuff. The reason why I want this to be a manga is because I believe the specific story is better told visually than forcing imagery through words. The reason why I'd rather hire someone to draw for me is so I won't have to dedicate 10 years of my life in order to draw my first page.
I've been working on it for a couple of months.
Yes, I want to publish this and make money off of it.
I'm willing to spend a decent amount, but I still want to make a profit off of it.
Don't try to make a manga. Try to make it a visual story, yes, but not "a manga". For one, you're here in the west, for 2 you're not Japanese, for 3 trying to emulate someone else's work deliberately is a good way to make bad work.
You keep saying Manga, and you're speaking to us in English. That alone spells commercial doom unless you're willing to turn down the japaneseness of the art style heavily and your story has no Japanese tropes whatsoever.
>weeb who can't draw writes his own harem manga and wants to publish it and make money
>will give artist percentage of profit
I imagine each page of a comic would run AT LEAST 80 bucks without color. How long is this story OP?
It will be very hard finding an artist for this unless you're willing to pay what the artist asks and treat them well.
But I don't feel like it would do as well in a western art style. There are some western styles I enjoy and would consider, but I just don't know if it would do the story justice.
>50% of profits and some money upfront
If you want any artist to work for you you better have all the money upfront
Check deviantart, there are some legit artists there, you need an account to contact them tho
There's no way you're going to make money of this.
There's a wealth of harem mangas that are going to be written and better drawn than yours and are available for free from scanlators etc. Who are you imagining will be buying this?
An artist will be expensive especially if you want anything beyond a one shot size.
You're best bet is finding a talented but naive artist and sweet talking them with your vision and underpaying them.
It'd be about 50-70 pages per chapter. There would be 3 or 4 chapters per issue. I understand how difficult that would make things, but it's still cheaper and less time-consuming than learning how to do it myself.
Uh... yeah, well I'm not saying it can't be done, you could definitely get a patreon up. But don't expect a publisher to pick that up if you're in the west. Just don't event think about it: it won't happen. Your market will be enthusiasts (i.e. weebs who will deem your work "good" at best but will always prefer Japanese, professional stuff) who are willing to drop a big buck on it. Not a mass market. That means zero publishing support
Except Latin America, which is weeb central for some reason, so if you're down there might as well give it a shot at finding an actual publisher.
>hundreds of pages
That's going to be very expensive m8.
Are you planning on convincing a publisher of serializing it? I can't imagine any will since it sounds generic and not popular for the western market.
Seconding that no one will buy what they can get for free.
But do not try to manipulate artists. Aside from that being a dick move, it's a fast way to make enemies if something goes wrong. Artists talk and keep blacklists together about shitty buyers.
>who are you imagining buying this?
People who are into this stuff. If it's good, people will buy it. Of course, it'll involve a fair share of networking and commission fees for the artist, and I understand that.
I don't care about anime at all, I know there are good artists because I like to steal fanmade pokemon designs and make them on blender as a way to practice. There are good everything tho, not that you would be able to afford it at all tho
No artist is ever going to work on commission for something that you are selling. If their work is actually any good, they can do a lot better than getting a one time paycheck while you make royalties for life. (Which is unlikely to happen anyways. The comic/manga market is oversaturated, thats why you have people doing webcomics for free.)
you're going to have to partner with someone. I'd recommend messaging artists you personally like and filling them in on the story to see if it's something they want to do. Making a comic is very grueling work so you're better off finding someone who has proven they can do it. (They've already done webcomics or such before.)
>People who are into this stuff.
Who is this? like >>25630960 said, nobody in the west is going to be interested in generic harem shit manga, with likely sub par art unless you have serious money to pony up for an artist. Any interest will be from niche weebs who will see it as subpar to actual manga from japan which is free. They won't pay.
The only similar thing I can think is rwby which was surely expensive with he production value and had existing network through rooster teeth.
kek, I see this over and over again. The artist won't care about your story, it's your baby not theirs. If you want a serious artist you need to pony up the cash. If you search for artists and talk to them before even looking up market rates you're being rude.
>Can you speak and write moon
>are you Japanese
>do you have access to nip publishers, editors?
>do you have a social media presence?
>do you have a solid business plan that isn't "I'll just sell copies at Barnes and nobles"
>I'm willing to pay a % of profits
Nobody cares, that's basically zero dollars in the artist's mind.
The only way I can see this working is if you spend the cash and get a good artist and you pander and heavily market to the tumblr crowd.
A little bit, but I'm looking for something more serious.
OK, then. Let's say that I'm the writer and you're the artist. How much would I have to pay for a 170 page manga?
How about you spent that little money you got into commissioning some characters and art, maybe a cool cover for it and then make a kickstarter to raise the money to hire the artist. If you are successful then your dreams come true, if you don't then at least you get to know what could have been. I don't see any other way you are doing this
>OK, then. Let's say that I'm the writer and you're the artist. How much would I have to pay for a 170 page manga?
I'm not an artist so I can't say exactly, but 170 pages is a ton.
That's going to be shit ton of money.
My honest recommendation if you really want this, is to write the story polish it then turn it into a visual novel with some high quality art. Then you can go from there.
I doubt your harem story has to be a manga, unless it's just going to be dumb ecchi shots every page.
Crowdfund would be another good idea OP, that way you can just pay for a couple high quality pages and art to use as examples and promo material without investing a huge amount of cash.
How much money do you have in the bank right now and how detailed is your script?
Lastly, why should I do this and not any other project I have been pitched? If I do this I have to give up doing projects for other people.
A half year's salary at the very least. That's a tankobon length.Think of it like this: your average manga chapter is 30 pages. More or less a page per day for most mangakas. And that's their whole job. Plus mangakas are famous for working like crazy for a compatibly meager pay. We don't have that culture in the west, here they'll expect a full time pay because it'll be a full time job for them. And it will take them at least half a year to complete 170 pages, I can guarantee you.
Here is the thing op I'm not good at drawing yet but I have done courses with professional illustrators and can contact them, comic and manga writers too. I would happily contact them for you if you have a serious proposal but you have to tell me how much are you willing to spend upfront for page
Kickstarter, patreon etc. Honestly though it's just a dice roll and you need to have quality work and/or get lucky and go viral with tumblr or similar crowd.
There's plenty of quality artists and comics etc that never get crowdfunded or make peanuts on patreon while others make loads. I honestly can't see a harem manga getting funded unless you heavily network and market on social media tumblr, reddit etc and capture the mob's attention.
Because with me you'd have a steady paycheck for at least a couple months. Plus, you'd be putting your work out for professionals to see. If you're serious about art, this is exactly what you're looking for.
That's laughable bullshit and it's insulting that you wold try to make an offer that way. I can get a steady paycheck doing other commissions and my work is already very visible to other professionals.
What does your project offer that no other project offers?
It's more than just harem. There's an actual story to it, rather than just a hundred pages of slutty girls. I just brought up the harem because that's one thing that makes it different from the typical western comic.
Other than that, I like the basic marketing plan.
Here is some advice for you then friend, learn to draw, learn basic Japanese and network enough to get green lit by a publisher, hire a group to help you produce this manga, market it well enough that you eventually get a anime adaptation (which will cost you almost everything that you made off the manga) hope the anime does well enough that you can turn if into a franchise, and finally profit
I will tell you that unless it's a famous and we'll known artist doing your story you are wasting your time and money, I'd you simply have a story but don't want to draw, or aren't good at it, just make a LN/VN and milk it as much as possible
>you'd be putting your work out for professionals to see
There's better ways to do that than drawing a self published harem comic that will very likely be unsuccessful.
>f you're serious about art, this is exactly what you're looking for.
lol tone it down a notch. Why do you people always think you're some great opportunity for the artists? People like you with their pet stories and ideas are dime a dozen. Since you're some literally who the only thing the serious artist cares about is the money.
>It's funny, because you've accomplished so much more in your life, right?
Haha, not trying to be rude but I was just trying to save anon the embarrassment of recommending you to his professors and professional connections.
I wouldn't make contact until I had the money upfront.
I want someone who has read the script and says, "OK, I like this. I want to be a part of this." If you don't have the same passion for this that I do, I'll find someone who does, otherwise we both lose. I want you to draw this because you actually believe it's a good story that will make the both of us more money.
>Why do you people always think you're some great opportunity for the artists? People like you with their pet stories and ideas are dime a dozen. Since you're some literally who the only thing the serious artist cares about is the money.
So much this! Where do all these assholes who think they can write come from? They all think they have great stories that I am somehow privileged to draw but none of them have ever published anything they have written and none of them have ever sold their writing before and it is ALWAYS animu wish fulfillment bs.
Pitch your goddamn story then. What does your story have that is worth getting excited about? I'm guessing nothing.
OP what you're trying to do is what millions of others have attempted. In the end, unless you're already established somewhere, you don't get away with just doing the writing. Moreover, this is for an already niche market. Just how would you market this? I could only imagine something like Kickstarter and even then, any commissioned artist is going to demand a very large chunk (single commissions can go into the hundreds).
If you don't think it'll do well, then tell me and I'll move on. If you think it's be better with a tweak, I'll consider making the changes. If you don't think it'll do well, then I'll move on.
Artists don't care if the manga will do well nor do they care about the story
What you have to understand about artist is that they don't want to make your dreams come true, they want two things to make money and to make art
We've already established that I'm willing to pay a large chunk upfront if the quality is good.
20 pages in one month? It's going to be black and white, and I don't plan on there being complicated scenery per panel. If you can't do at least 30 a month, you can't do it. I understand how much work goes into each page, and I respect that, but that's not enough for me.
>Pitch your goddamn story then.
A minimum wage worker is unhappy with the course of his life, he's always wanted to create. He decides to quit his job, take his savings and write the his dream manga. Hijinks ensue as he struggles to find artists and people take notice of his new harem manga and his harem grows.
Says the NEET who's living off of his mother's tendies.
You're an idiot who has no idea how the comics industry works and you're downright delusional if you think you'll actually make any money off some stupid harem "manga". How you should do it is create some comics for free, make a name for yourself,network with established creators, and build a fanbase/brand. Only after you've managed all that should you try to charge people for your work. In age of webcomics, torrenting and all those scanlations, you've really got to be something special for someone to pay you for your work. This will probably never be a profitable venture. You should do this because you love making comics and crafting stories, the money should be the last thing on your mind.
Also if this is your first outing into comics, whatever you make is going to be terrible. Especially if it's some as ambitious as you're claiming.
That being said, if you want to send me some of the script feel free. I've been writing, drawing and making comics for years and at the very least, I could give you some pointers.
Any way to follow your stuff or is simply non-existing at the moment? Would love to get involved in some way if you're serious about it, although I don't know what I could do other than translating your shit to portuguese.
>OP thinks that artists in a first world country would work 8 hours a day including on weekends for his pet project
No one would read this except basement NEETs who would pirate.
How did Nimona pull it off?
>I've been writing, drawing and making comics for years and at the very least
Willing to share any names? Curious if I've read your stuff.
>5 pages a day
That sounds insane. You realize mangakas work a ton and have assistants usually?
Either move in with your parents and save every penny for a couple of years or find a way to practice 3 hours a day. Maybe just wait until your parents die and you inherit some money or some property or a car or something that you can sell
>lives with parents until they die saving the whole time
>takes all his savings + inheritance and blows it on his harem manga
Do it op, don't let your dreams be memes.
That's great, go contact her and tell her she can have 50% of your profits if she makes 5 pages a day on top of her usual workload because you can't pay her until your manga makes any money, be sure to mention this is your first project too
I'm not familiar
Afraid you wouldn't be able to find it even if I did. All my stuff has been part of local zines or just collaborations with friends. I don't really bother with online stuff. I don't have any interest in making a career out of it, so having it low key is fine for me. If I had anything saved on my computer, I'd upload it.
If it's something you love, you make time. Simple as that. I held down a part time job, was a full time student and still had time to make comics, write and play in an active band.
I would recommend you to reach good drawing level in case you want to handle absolutely everything by yourself. If you really don't care about you doing everything you can contact me if you want. I can't assure you you'd like my drawing style, but hey, we can always try. I've been drawing for a long time now. You can e-mail me and we can discuss about your project. Ymdma@outlook.com (provisional e-mail, scammers) Thenwe can find a way to talk (skype pls) I don't think I care too much about the copyright and I don't really intend to get money. Interested in your project and what can happen.
The good ones are.
Just try to draw it yourself senpaitachi, see how it works out.
I'm trying to get this meme published. Anyone know of a good meme artist?
>draw it yourself
I'm sorry, but I don't know if I'm patient enough to struggle with drawing for 10-15 years (if I draw everyday) before I even make my first page. It'd be cheaper in the long-run to just hire someone.
What is there to discuss? Go to deviantart, find people you like and knock on some bloody doors with a concise plan. Get a budget, refine your writing, and go look for an artist instead of quietly scheming and telling /r9k/ about your plans to take on the world. GO GO GO
I guess they haven't left yet. I can wait a little longer to talk with someone who doesn't speak like a child.
I mean, maybe there's more to discuss than just the basics. Maybe how other mangakas (specifically American, if possible) make their own goals happen.
But it's true. Have you ever published anything? Have you submitted your work anywhere? Do you have an online presence? Do you at least have friends that have made comics before?
prompting cringes is not mutually exclusive to what you said
having a neckbeard is not mutually exclusive to what you said
having a dream is not mutually exclusive to what you said
What's the problem?
If you're talking about professionally publishing, then the first two would be no and I wouldn't be here. What do you expect? Are you saying nobody publishes without publishing first? Are you saying nobody has ever published a first issue of anything?
OK. I've been just asking random question in the thread until now.
But seriously, what the hell is your plan here? I don't understand. You say "publish" do you have any IDEA of how expensive would it be to comission your own printing and how time consuming would it be to go shop it around? Even if by publishing you mean "selling tankobons online" they would have to be mad expensive to feed you and the artist.
You say "I'll self publish and share with the artist". But seriously, what even is your actual plan? I'm not understanding it -which is why I haven't insulted you yet- but this sounds very simplistic to me.
The plan is to pay whatever fees the artist and I agree on. If it takes $20,000 per issue, I'll see what I can do. I plan on marketing it online AND in real life. Maybe get a second person to do a weekly 3-panel comic for the social media sites. Going to cons and other events. Basically anything I can do to make it happen.
Yeah, that is not an answer, mate. "I plan on making a band and everyone gets 3,000 wages whilst on tour" is not a band plan.
"I'll save to make a demo by keeping a part time job 2 months, make a hundred copies and mail it to "these guys" here, go with this producer, go with this manager, talk to these venues to see if they need bands" is a plan. You're just saying "I'll pay people to do things and I'll market" but that's not a plan.
I'm saying the expectations you have for this project far exceed your abilities. You should be a bit humbler considering your overall lack of experience making comics. If anything, what you should do is outline a 30 page short version of your script, find an artist, shop it around for free and see what the reaction is. Upload it to a few sites, see if you can get an LCS to carry (most ones in big cities have a local artist section), take it to conventions, find people who make zines and see if you can get it in, etc...
a 170 page book is a huge commitment for someone with no background in comics. Odds are you'd give up halfway through.
I saw a post about it earlier, but if that one about the guy who gives up his min wage job to make a comic is actually the plot of yours then i'm telling you right now: give up. It's a fucking terrible idea.
That's all I have. I don't have an artist right now, and I haven't discussed wages. It'll be paid by my full-time job (I get paid commission, so I literally get paid more for harder work). I can start listing off different anime conventions, but I don't know which ones will allow me to market the book. What other specifics do I need?
>the guy who gives up his min wage job to make a comic
That wasn't me. It was some guy trying to mock me.
Honestly, the lack of experience is being taken out of proportion. If I was going to give up halfway through, I wouldn't have written the scripts for 26 chapters already.
Go ahead. Tell me how this isn't as good as a plan as any. Just TRY and tell me what you would do differently. What's that? You're really a moron who doesn't know what he was talking about? Who knew!
You need to know who's going to print that shit. How much will it cost? How do you even plan on selling it? If it's on the net for free already only ultra-fans of your already niche product will buy it, are you building a site with ads to support you when sales are low? Are you posting certain pages as preview? Is that even a good idea? Most comiket artists don't make a living off of that, for mosts it's a hobby, and it's COMIKET.
You need an actual outline for every step. You need to craft a plan that, if you were to get an artist tomorrow, you could start production. Not to follow it like a slave, but so you at least have an idea of what you're doing. Spunk is great, but there's more to art than just art, you need to be a businessman too if you want to make it on your own. And if you're selling something as niche as manga: well, you will have to make it on your own.
"hi everyone, I'm looking for $10,000+ to develop a pornographic cartoon. It's unremarkable and about my shitty life as a wageslave, but to spice things up I add a few of my sexual fantasies into it. I haven't even found an artist yet, and I can't really give you guys anything, so let's get those donations going!"
You don't have a plan. and plenty of people have outlined steps for you. Is it my fault you're too pig headed to take our advice?
Start small, distribute your work for free, build a fanbase, don't go into it expecting to make any money, be humble, have fun.
I do have answers for most of those questions, but I can see what you're trying to say. I appreciate the feedback, man.
Sorry, but I'm not gonna talk about anything other than the actual business here. As you can see by >>25633855 if I say anything about it, these guys will just make it into a meme.
If you're too afraid to handle a little ribbing, then you shouldn't even bother in the first place. Just a general premise
e.g. a young hero from the desert learns an ancient art to defeat an evil empire. a charming rogue of an archaeologist travels the world looking for treasure and adventure. a new york comedian analyzes his failed romance.
That's great. And then what? Those steps are important sure, but what after that? What happens after I do everything outlined for me? Well, then I have to make it happen one way or the other. I'll be humble, but if me or my story is attacked personally, I'm gonna call a nigga out. I feel like I've been on the defensive for the majority of this thread, so I haven't been able to speak about it like an adult as much as I've wanted to.
>he thinks he can make money off of a comedian realizing he's a cuck
See what I mean? There's ribbing, then there's memes.
do you understand how crowdfunding works? unless you can offer evidence of something worth developing with a solid plan and prototype, who's going to give you money? Or am I a "hater" for questioning whether you're grounded in reality?
You have absolutely no specifics for your business plan. You say "I'm going to market it online and in real life" ok, where are you gonna market it? you don't even have a budget for this, just "a decent amount" and "maybe I could do 20k" I'm sure an artist would be delighted to spend a month working on a product that will never be finished because you have no funding to continue paying them.
If following the steps other people are suggesting is "too hard" this project will never even leave the ground and you'll have wasted a lot of time and money.
What do you mean "and then what?" You go to bed knowing you've created something people enjoy. End of story.
So here's my question for you: why are you doing this? What's your endgame? Fame & fortune? Adoration? Attention? Just getting your work out? What will it take to make you happy?
These are things you should think about before starting.
And you can just ignore them and talk to the people that give constructive responses. If the work is good and you're proud of it, then why does it matter what people say.
And the movie in question was Annie Hall, so yeah, you could make money off it.
You should make one chapter as an experiment, layout exact what you want every panel to look like, drawing it yourself. This won't be for private consumption, just so you have it down exactly as you want it. Then you pay an artist to draw it properly. Then, post it, and see if anyone cares. You'd be best of doing this as a webcomic and trying to get noticed, because vanity publishing is pricey. If you're going to want to support this on a sales basis, maybe as an ebook edition would be best, with a scant few paper books published for the hardcore fan who would actually want it.
If you care this much what people on r9k think about your work you're never gonna go anywhere. You're too arrogant to accept criticism or advice and dismiss it as being "personally attacked", on the off chance you ever gain a modicum of a following you'll lose it all when someone says "eh, this issue was alright" and then you call them a faggot.
I've been doing nothing but taking the advice of other people this whole thread! The only advice I haven't taken to heart is, "Give up." My budget is what I make at my job. My "evidence" is the small steps I'd make in the beginning, like someone suggested! Jeeze! Why can't you just suggest something without putting me on the defense?!
>the "NEET makes a harem comic" plot that wasn't even you.
Grow a fucking pair and do it. Honestly, if you had just started the thread with "this is my story it's about x, y and z. What do you think about it? What do I think I should to get it published?, etc..." we'd all have been a lot nicer to you.
>one day make a mobile game with my own shitty art i drew
>teacher friend asks me to draw his childrens book afterwards
top lel, i swear people will do anything not to pay actual artists
BS. That's the kind of attitude I tried to have at the beginning. It wasn't until people started acting like dicks that I started reacting, and now here we are, comparing dick sizes instead of talking about business.
I'm wondering if I could just get the legal logistics out of the way upfront by being like, "I'll pay this much if I can claim the rights to the characters." Hoping I wouldn't need to go the lawyer route if possible.
And I told them I would contact them when the thread died.
>Hoping I wouldn't need to go the lawyer route if possible.
if you dont want to get fucked over you should get a lawyer
if you have a contract you dont have to worry about getting caught up in a copyright battle later on
Have you never published anything before? Let me tell you a little about it. If you post it in places where people are jerking themselves off to give nonconstructive criticism the first chance they get, it's probably not going to do a lot of good posting it.
As a matter of fact I did! I wrote a shitty 40 chapter Death Note fanfic for a Pokemon forum close to 7 years ago... maybe 8. Tried to follow it up with a Code Geass one, but I was doing it for my three friends who liked it, not for me. As such I left it incomplete. I didn't care about all the people insulting my 11 year-old ass though; putting it out was the afterthought, the actual pleasure was in just writing it. You should learn to kill your darlings, it'll be important if you want to get serious about writing.
You're putting way too much into this where the should be none. Hubert Selby said most men write with their dicks, so stop that.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to post it just for some NEET fags who have accomplished nothing to attack it. There's no shame in that. It's just not a smart thing to do.
Would you have ever written it if people told you it was shit before you ever submitted it to the public?
You come to this board to ask for advice and then belittle the posters because they're not good enough to witness your amazing writing?
Jesus christ, dude. Just fucking post your crappy story already.
Don't take this the wrong way, mate, but I don't care about your story. Nothing personal, I just don't feel like reading a stranger's sketched story. I'm just saying this attitude of "No eye must witness my fragile little baby for they'll say it's shit" is not going to do you any good. Ever.
If you don't feel like reading it, no problem. I think you're misunderstanding what kind of people are in this thread, though. Let's say I posted the plot of their favorite movie. They'd still attack it. It's just not a smart idea.
That's the thing though, I'm not a NEET in any sense of the word. I think you're a fag because you've been ignoring helpful advice, you're ignorant of how much work it takes to make a comic and you're too much of a coward to post even so little as a ten word plot summary.
>ignoring helpful advice
And this right here is why you're a fag. I've said that I'd take ALL the advice in this thread that wasn't give up. There are posts I haven't replied to (like the lawyer post), but that doesn't mean I'm saying no to it.
>underestimating the work involved
I understand it perfectly, and I'm willing to pay $20,000 a book to make it happen. What makes you think I'm not doing everything I can?
>won't post a summary
I almost posted something facetious, but I didn't want to be the "I was just pretending to be dumb" guy.
>paying 20g for a shitty comic book
That is beyond asinine. I can't even comprehend why you would think your work is worthy enough to warrant such expense. You're like those rich kids whose parents would get them the 3 thousand guitars and expect them to be a rock star overnight.
No, I'm being serious. If we're all ridiculous shit stirrers who have nothing to contribute then you shouldn't waste your time here. I don't agree with that evaluation, but you sure as hell seem to, so don't waste a second more here and go somewhere you actually consider helpful.
No, I mean you think throwing lots of money at a project will guarantee its quality or your success. I've given it some thought and I suppose my main problem with you is that you just wanna go through all this without paying your dues. Forget working your way up, forget building fanbase or reaching out to a community. You're much too special for that.
The only comment to which I've seen you actually answer instead of reflexively trying to defend your damaged ego was the crowd funding one.
That and your somewhat movie-like way of saying to anyone who you thought may be an artist "are we doing business or what?"
Aside from that all you've done is defend your precious work and your precious ego. But hell, who am I to tell you what you consider helpful, I reckon you must actually see something here, whatever that is. Else I don't see why you'd hang. around
Hey, you could be very talented. But based on my experience with people I've met who are just like you, probably not. Feel free to prove me wrong. If you actually have something great, I'd love to read it.
Or you could just stop being a bitch and post an excerpt. I'm legitimately interested and have been this entire time. If I wasn't I would've just called you a dipshit and ignored the thread. Sack up.
Pussified SJW scum? I am pretty sure noone here will like your shit. Go pander to tumbl or something, they might feel pity for you OP, some fake sympathy might be the best thing you need.
Don't you feel a drummer is more the type of guy who'd go for baseball? I always felt guitar was for the soccer and basketball guys and drumming was for basketball guys, football was for unartistic brutes and self-improving sports was for bassist. I'm just waffling though. At least finally there's a conversation going on.
U wot m8?
Honestly, it doesn't add much to the story. He's just debating which he likes more until the ghosts come. That's when he makes a covenant with God to basically go on a crusade against ghosts in return for being kept relatively safe.
>implying the whole school isn't mono-ethnic
He's just gonna be a crusader. I've never seen Yuyu Hakusho, Tbh. I'm really into shows like Higurashi When They Cry, but also shows like Kiss x Sis and Shimoneta, which gave me the idea for the harem aspect.
You should, it's pretty good. Plus, it has a lot in common with your premise. Snarky delinquent makes deal with deity to fight ghosts and evil demons in order to save his soul and loved ones.
Have you actually read actual literature, or just sci-fi and fantasy crap? You are aware that most anime and manga creators are highly erudite even if it's in an amaterurish way? Unlike the nip, you are an american, which means you are automatically culture-less and unaware of so man things and narratives, that you are basically dumb in general knowledge. You should focus on fixing that first, before you stat any sort of creativity.
>You are aware that most anime and manga creators are highly erudite even if it's in an amaterurish way?
>Unlike the nip, you are an american, which means you are automatically culture-less and unaware of so man things and narratives, that you are basically dumb in general knowledge
Is this what weebs believe?
>I'm not some cringy neckbeard with a dream
Op Im much like you in the fact that I have an idea t
For an anime that's really fleshed out and I feel that if I can get it out there peolple will find it great and the rest of the problems like labor and expenses will go away. Too bad we dreamers can't draw for shit so we have to hope that some bro who shares your vision will stumble along and together youl
Be unstoppable. It truly is an idea that is as fantastical as the stories we hope to tell, and from a realist point of view we have a better chance of winning the mega ball. Personally I still haven't quite reconciled my dream with reality, and every day it grows more and more exciting and engaging, but I understand that no matter how great the ideas in my head seem just believing in them isn't enough. However, I do believe in visions and my hope is that these ideas can be recognized in the not so different future if I make sacrifices I'm the present. So my goal now is to go to law school after finishing uni and using that as a means to save money all the while writing screenplay's to showcase my writing abilties in a way that I can do on my own. My hope is that I never give into stagnation and one day my vision will come true. So to you op don't ever throw away your visions of greatness because I believe in your story just find a plan for the present that makes your vision possible
Please. You are an anglo, your education system is not based on the ideas of Nationalism of the 19th century. Nips learn about all sorts of western culture in school way more than anglos do. Why do you think there's a thing called Paris Syndrome or the fact that every second mecha has europeans being stuck in an aristocracy setting.
>telling you that americans don't have much cultural knowledge because of the type of education system that they didn't adopt(it's called Prussian Education System)
>this makes me a weeb
You should read more.
learn 2 draw while doing free webcomic like ONE.
Honestly man start making little oneahot comics that introduce your story to your audience do some doodles and find someone who can draw them in a way that looks good now you have concept art which is something that actually generates interest
Uh... I don't know if drawing is for me. I've tried going that route, but honestly it'd just be too hard for me to do.
Think it means that due to having received a somewhat limited and American focused education which generally doesn't encompass foreign literature you are going to be limited in what you can write or convey from a certain perspective.
eg: Japanese will gargle baudelaire,Kants, and Kierkegaard's nuts at the same time at a much younger age.
(I would gargle and do continue to gargle Kierkegaard's nuts.)
I wish I had the literary talent to properly describe what he wanted to convey, still working on my writing and interpretation skills, don't think I got it right.
Are you implying it would take a decade to learn to draw?
You would learn to draw, would be able to draw your own manga how you want, the whole time practicing would hone your writing, panelling etc as well. Wageslaving till you can afford to pay someone to draw it won't make you better at writing comics.
I wouldn't recommend that, trust me buddy.
Just try it senpai, doesn't matter.
I'd start by writing and sketching oneshot comics. Layout how you want it to be drawn and displayed. Then try to find an artist who is interested in collaborating with you either for free or cheap. Start a website and post this stuff online and see how people react to your work.
Also, have you read Bakuman?
>I really don't have the patience to learn to draw
Then you have only yourself to blame.
>I'd feel pressured into taking classes, where I'd end up spending 20 grand anyway.
I've been meaning to read Bakuman, but the bookstore never has it in stock. (Really not a fan of pirating)
How do people make websites? Do they just use Facebook and Deviantart pages, or is this something I'm going to have to learn too?
Make a proto-chapter and post it somewhere. Popularize it and then do more. If this goes, then you can actually spend money and you'll probably start a new story with the experience gained from the free proto-chapter.
>(Really not a fan of pirating)
I am sorry, but you just don't belong here. You probably haven't read much manga to know even the basics of the genre(harem for example) as far as systemization of the plot goes.