im a recovering alcoholic and don't drink anymore, however i will do drugs such as opiates. funny how i can control heroin but not my drinking. im sure not drinking will provide obstacles in dating. i mean most of the time id take a date to a bar to get loosened up. and if i tell a girl i dont drink, and especially if i tell them the reason, that will probably raise red flags for them. i dont know if never having been a drinker is worse or better than someone who used to do it way too much and stopped, probably better.
It's not the drinking of alcohol that attracts women. It's the fact that you're demonstrating you're a typical, normal member of society who knows how to have fun. Well, that and attraction. Drugs are usually a turn off for most people btw.
im young, (18) dont even drink often, maybe i'll get buzzed on a half pint or a "pint" (375ml) of some liquor a couple times a month, but if i ever want to talk to a girl for some reason, i know i cant do it without alcohol
thats the one thing alcohol is good for. it can turn a robot into a real boy for a night
>>25593886 People in general like drugs, a good quarter of people use illict substances (at least in the US, I'm not American but I figure most people here are). So that does leave a large population that doesn't do them. The problem is that you're going to have to use your social skills instead of mutual drug habits and bad desicions made while high to get to know someone. That leaves you with two options: >drug abusing gf >be yourself :^) There is no win
>>25594551 >implying I allow stimulants into my body judging =/= bashing, but you are free to judge or bash whoever you like. your behavior is the largest (maybe ONLY) reflection of your character. forget what your teachers told you, judgement is normal and necessary.
>>25595001 When the criticism of being a judgmental faggot got brought up, it's not to disavow the literal act of judging someone based on their actions. Rather, it's referring to the straightedges who harshly judge, and then use that as an excuse to ostracize/talk down/be a dick. People who tend to make it a point to define themselves by what they abstain from (and publicize it frequently) have a tendency to act like that.
>>25595015 >You think the better way to live is sober, and that implies that the worse way to live is doing drugs and alcohol.
That's not really how it always works. I don't go bowling but I don't think people who do are retarded scum for it. I say live and let live. I apply that to them but they don't feel the same way about me.
>>25595088 >People who tend to make it a point to define themselves by what they abstain from (and publicize it frequently) have a tendency to act like that.
I mean, in part it does define me. I don't tell people all the time but if doing drugs is brought up, I have to explain my position. That always seems to bother people who are really sensitive about their habits.
Maybe that says that they themselves feel like they shouldn't be doing it?
>>25595159 OP asked if being straightedge would be an impediment to getting girls. He got the answer that it is if you use it as a pretext to be a harshly judgmental dickhole. Shitposting around that point doesn't change that fact.
>>25595197 >I mean, in part it does define me. I don't tell people all the time but if doing drugs is brought up, I have to explain my position. That always seems to bother people who are really sensitive about their habits.
It's the same discomfort a lardass would feel when they get honest answers from someone who lives a healthy lifestyle, or a robot would get from a well adjusted male. It remind them of the deficiencies and failures in their life choices, and instills a sense of insecurity, that translates into hostility.
Usually the easiest thing is to just evade the question or lie.
>>25593886 I do way too many drugs and it puts women off. Its kind of fucked up when you are shooting up and doing stuff by the gram to get the buzz you want. Scares them to be honest with you. Hell it even scares other druggies
You don't go bowling because you think that it isn't fun. Which means that you have think people who spend their free time bowling aren't being fun people during that time, correct. You wouldn't be having fun with them during that time. No disagreements so far, correct? Well it just so happens people are what they repeatedly do, so people who go bowling are bowlers. That is a part of them that isn't fun according to you, but that is a part of who they are. But you have your own idea of fun. A better idea, right? You wouldn't do that thing if it wasn't the better choice right? So you do that other thing that you believe is better than bowling. That think you choose to do is a part of you. So a part of you is better than a part of them. So just in that circumstance of you not wanting to bowl, you believe that you are a better person for doing your hobby, rather than their hobby, which is worse, which makes them the lesser person. Are you seeing any parallels? Feel free to poke holes in my logic.
The way I see it, bowling is not the way I choose to spend my time, because I only have so much time to spend, but if I really got into it, I would have fun. Some thing like gaming, drinking, football, stock car racing, smoking weed, and playing chess would be equally as for fun if I got into it.
I don't think that's really true. There's a lot more that makes a person, like the way they interpret things and their opinions on all of it. If some guy spends most of his time wageslaving, I don't think that defines him and makes him a boring maggot unworthy of my time. I care to hear what the world is like to him and what he does and wants to do.
If I thought people were as simple as the things they spend their time on, the world would seem really depressing. I masturbate a lot, but I don't think that's a part of me that I communicate to other people. If somebody told me that they abstain from masturbating, and they have a reason other than that they're sexless, I think it's kind of admirable in a way.
>>25593886 Women ages 15-25 generally speaking, but also you're generalizing like 46% of the entier world's population. Only YOLO staceys are into drinking, and a smaller subset of them actually do drugs.
You could easily find some quiet book-reading sweater-wearing vinyl-listening drug-free gf as long as you look in the right places and have the right standards.
Everything is relatively safe as long as you consume it properly and with moderation. A pillow is safe and will keep you comfortable from hard surfaces unless you accidentally smother yourself with it. Water is good and keeps you hydrated and your body functioning, unless you drink too much of it and then it kills you.
The same is true of anything from mushrooms to weed to caffeine to salvia and alcohol.
I did this on accident you trap attention seeking fuck. Id like you better if you werent so blatantly obvious about attention seeking, id like you better if you werent a trap and were a real girl. It pisses me off even more that I share similarities with you
>>25595668 >muh internal reality you only think this because you want to believe you're a deep interesting person. thing is no one cares. open your eyes, look out, reality is external. or not and keep living in dreams.
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