Every girl can get a boyfriend, but not all males can get a girlfriend
let me explain
if you are a desperate beta loser like most people here on 4chan, almost any girl would be ok for you, right? So if a girl asked you on a date you would accept without thinking twice.
girls instead tend to be picky and usually prefer the normie alpha partying shit, so if you are a loser they will decline immediatly.
>So if a girl asked you on a date you would accept without thinking twice.
Actually a girl did ask me out on a date last summer. I sperged out and turned her down, mostly because I didn't think she was very attractive but also partially because I got nervous
To be honest it seems that i get called a loser not only because i don't like parties and raves and such things, but also because my "moral standards are too high"
i don't really know what that means
I've got a good personality, I used to joke around with friends a few years ago. We just separated when they found other people and I just don't have a social life any more.
I don't have a social life because talking to people is too tiring. I'm not organized enough to keep track of friendships and I don't have the confidence to go out anymore.
pretty much all countries, but especially bad in the middle east/asia,
>dat china and india
>chinese and indians immigrating en masse
are you retarded?
>guys are responsible for most murders
>women murder very few people collectively
>its womens fault for not killing people
Why should men be more picky? Why cant women just be less picky? Less stress for everyone
>if you are a desperate beta loser like most people here on 4chan
I'm not like that.
I could get laid easily if I want, already got several girls hitting on me.
I just want to find a pure girl, to give her my virginity and have a lot of children and living happily ever after.
Women are biologically very picky because of how badly childbearing wreaks havoc on their bodies which could very well kill them if it weren't for modern medicine. You have to literally have genes to die for.
either way you would reach the same point
>men raise their standards
>unattractive women have less options
>start aiming for guys in their own league instead of the chad, the guys that otherwise wouldn't reproduce
>women lower their standards
>start aiming for guys in their own league instead of the chad, the guys that otherwise wouldn't reproduce
also, if you believe its alright for women to have high standards simply because its biology, thats the naturalistic fallacy
or is this your way of shifting blame?
Yes, it is a shame, unfortunately.
But I prefer be alone all my life than get with a betrayer who will commit adultery and take all money after divorcing.
But I still didn't completely lost hope, there's still a faint light.
Just saying it's as natural as wanting to eat food when you're hungry or breathing air. If women are happier alone than with a subpar male, nothing can be done. If they force a relationship upon themselves it would be a bad experience for the man and the woman.
This topic really is complicated, but what i think is this:
>losers are classified this way because they usually don't follow trends or various behaviours
>in this day and age, moral standards seem to have become lower and less strict (even 15 year olds go to raves)
>you become a loser if you don't follow these certains behaviours
>most of the girls will avoid you because of this
>the normie or chad or whatever obtains them instead
So if you have high moral standards and you are "pure" you become a loser basically
of course it's not always like this obviously
>Women are biologically very picky because of how badly childbearing wreaks havoc on their bodies which could very well kill them if it weren't for modern medicine. You have to literally have genes to die for.
Look at all this shit you just made up, aren't you ashamed of yourself?
This is true, but primally your brain doesn't know about contraceptives. It thinks penis in vagina = carry his offspring for 9 months. Sure she can date a super autismo while cringing the whole time, but still, bad experience for both.
Because his ability to provide is also a factor and in this world it's difficult to have a man who is both in his prime and able to provide. The younger man is healthier and will give better offspring, while the older man has shelter and resources. At the end of the day she is simply more likely to mingle with men her own age.
>At the end of the day she is simply more likely to mingle with men her own age.
So are dudes, obviously doesn't change their preferences.
>while the older man has shelter and resources
So why doesn't it hold steady at most healthy and most stable like men hold steady at young and beautiful?
I'm in a real conundrum, people. A girl I used to orbit in high school did porn for a few years.
>Started doing scenes and she was amazed by how much money she quickly took in
>Caught genital herpes quickly
>Plagued by STDs
>Had multiple pregnancies and abortions due to missed/failed birth control
>Got into drugs
>Parents and family basically disowned her once they found out what she was doing
>Got out over two years ago
>Got back into contact with her
>She's basically a fembot now since in real life almost no guy wants anything to do with a porn star, even an ex-one
>I'm still a virgin at 25 and she's slept with over 100+ men
>We're friends but I've been keeping my distance, it's like she's orbiting me now
>Her story has really cut me down on porn because when you really think about it, most of the girls probably do through the same shit as she did
>I could probably make a move at any time and sleep with her but it wouldn't feel right + I'd probably get herpes
>Feel like this may be my only chance to be with a girl ever
>But then I remember this is much worse than even doing something like dating a single mother, when there's stuff like this out there: http://www.xvideos.com/video1607011/busty_beautiful_brunette_babe_enjoy_group_sex
>Yes that's really her
So I really don't know what to do. My dick is screaming GO GO GO but the rest of me is NO NO NO. It's either lower my standards or risk being alone forever.
If given the opportunity, any women of any age would want a handsome young man who can also provide. It's just that they're rare as unicorns. Males have much more simple and common desires (she just has to be young and preferably not deformed).
So why do they lie to researchers?
Not really sure about the source of your graph (if any) but this page is pretty interesting if you're into these kinds of things.
I think it's from the study referenced here.
idk, but honestly I can't ever see myself thinking 20 year old chicks aren't hot.
Just never through I'd be in this situation really.
Here's someone that, during high school, was the pure definition of a girl that used people with her looks. Then she went out into the real world and got used right back in return and really has nobody.
As far as I know she hasn't had sex since she stopped doing porn, and more than once in the past year she's tried to come onto me. And once I almost let her, we were stripped down to our underwear in her bedroom and kissing, but I pulled back and said that I "didn't want to be like those other guys".
She got mad and wouldn't speak to me for a few days, but understood.
I don't know where this will go, if anywhere, but I'm going to go over to her place tomorrow night and whatever happens, happens.
>the ultra asspained first comment from that study
Is it really that hard to understand that men value health and beauty? Throw all your evolution and psychology books out the window and just think about basic biology and common sense.
>testosterone is the primary component of your sex drive in both men and women
>men have far more test and are far hornier
>young women are prettier than older women and more sexually exciting
Why would men ever have similar age preferences to women?
>It's either lower my standards or risk being alone forever.
No chance of increasing your prospects? Besides the sex she has a history of disease and drugs, I think there's a chance you'll prefer loneliness after her company.
>almost any girl would be ok for you, right?
>mfw fags keep acting like everyone doesn't have standards
I don't know what to say, I wouldn't but I understand the temptation.
You can still catch herpes when it isn't flared up, if you end up back where you started + an STD I guarantee you'll feel way worse.
Might as well find a clean hooker.
these are pretty reasonable requirements, really. I've known several girls who are my age (23) and still virgins. You just won't find them outside their houses/apartments and so they're tough to find.
>the crossover between those two groups dwindles exponentially past age ~17
Did you miss the chart where literally all men desire women in the 20-24 range? It's not like anyone is going gung ho after women 25 years or older.
are you trying to reinforce my point? the amount of not fat virgin women that are 20-24 is an even smaller population. ie its not the best idea for those two things to be your two dealbreakers if you actually ever want to find someone.
>the amount of not fat virgin women that are 20-24 is an even smaller population
No I'm saying 17-24 compared to 25 and higher has the highest instance of virgins that you can legally fuck and that most will find attractive, it's literally the courtship age. If you're older and set up even modestly your chances will be better than the guys her age.
>More and more young people are abstaining. No less than 27 percent of 15- to 24-year-old men have never had any form of sexual contact (oral, vaginal, or anal) with another person, up from 22 percent in 2002. Meanwhile, 29 percent of females in that age bracket have never had sex, also up from 22 percent at the time of the last study.
And the kicker:
>Eventually, though, they'll take the plunge: The survey found that almost everyone between the ages of 25 and 44 has had sex. About 98 percent of females and 97 percent of males in that range have had vaginal intercourse, 89 percent of females and 90 percent of men have had oral sex with an opposite-sex partner, and 36 percent of females and 44 percent of males have had anal sex with an opposite-sex partner.
17-24 is your best shot.
that's just 100% retarded.
Male value is very low because all women chose to stick to only best males and males being logical and actually sensible are ok with most women because of two things: Men can actually like a person's personality and not just their looks and can rate a person without taking in account things these people can't control and secondly, men are actually capable of Love, unlike females.
dude, its their best shot, but it's really unlikely to get those two things simultaneously. lets assume the dist. of virgins over that group is even and not skewed toward the younger teens
which it clearly would be
so we have approx a 35% obesity rate in the states so that knocks down the amount to non fat virgins to ~20% of the 20-24 year old pop. does that sound like good odds to you friend? clearly this is not adjusted for attractiveness vs virginity but not a good number if those two things are your go to deal breakers.
It's probably closer to 16, more than a few girls in my highschool were dating 20 year olds.
>which it clearly would be
It most certainly is.
>but it's really unlikely to get those two things simultaneously
It's a semi-fair assumption, though I've met a lot of fat sluts I think the unattractiveness encourages them to seek validation through sex.
>does that sound like good odds to you friend?
I honestly think if they knew a virgin and a non-virgin they'd have higher odds of getting a date with a virgin. A young woman sleeping around isn't going to want a long or short term relationship with a robot, at least not in that age range. Robots never had good odds.
>clearly this is not adjusted for attractiveness vs virginity
I think not fat, shows a willingness to settle for other unattractive features as long as she's not fat.
As a robot you can go after teens, try to pick up anti-social shut-ins, girls just entering college, 1-6/10s, fat girls, single moms, or post-30 women looking for a provider (if you actually have money).
>shows a willingness to settle for other unattractive features as long as she's not fat
thats a pretty big assumption. its more likely that they would be too autistic/inexperienced to know what things they really should be seeking in a partner. which would be ignorance and not a willingness to settle for nearly anything else.
I like how you keep directing this teribad advice towards me though, haha, keep at it friendo.
> thats a pretty big assumption
What assumption, that's literally the point of relegating it to two characteristics "this and anything else is fine".
>I like how you keep directing this teribad advice towards me though
I didn't mean you in particular, I was discussing robot prospects I'm not trying to shit on you or robots either, just saying it was never a great scene for anti-social people.