Face it, /r9k/. VR as a whole will flop. >oculus rift is 599

>>25551848
The technology is fine and everyone who has ever tried it (excluding the vive) have been blown away by how immersive it is.

If it does flop, it will be because palmer is selling them at a loss. Nigga didn't learn from sonys mistakes. but maybe zuckerberg will foot the bill to see it succeed.

I never expected the waifu age in recent years. I'm waiting for sexbots and fully-immersive VR (all senses in VR), which may or may not come before we're dead.

>>25551848

>normies won't have one, and certainly won't spend $1500 on a bundle

You ever see how much normies shell out for Apple products? They can afford it.

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What's more important, neetbux or an immersive gf simulator?

>>25551949
VR isn't trendy and its not something you can show off in public. They have no reason to buy it.

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>>25551848
yeah nah.
everyone is pissed because they thought it would be $400 max, but they're still buying it anyway. The people who were interested in owning it are the ones who had the money for it.

>>25551931
This. The wait may never end.

>>25551848
>I can't afford it so it'll flop
Look anon if you want it you can just work a job somewhere. You have 2 months before it comes out which is more than enough time to save the money for it if you're willing to give up your neet ways.

>new technology isn't cheap

WOAH NO WAY

I'm counting on the japs. Porn has often led the charge but I don't know if waifu simulators are mainstream enough.

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>>25552443
>buying the first iteration of new tech
when will these faggots learn

>>25551848
it was never going to succeed, this isn't real VR, the normalfags won't care until it's either cheap or comes with a non-intrusive neural interface, until then we'll just keep getting shitty goggles only a select few will buy and it'll never become the norm.
these "VR" headsets are like electric cars and 3D printers, they seem cool, a few people have them, but they won't take off.

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>>25551848
>Being poor
lel
>extends e-peen.

>>25552497
>going another X years without meeting your waifu just to save some paper

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>>25552656
>implying saving a couple hundred is dumb
my waifu can wait.

>>25552632
every now and then I spot a short-sighted individual and wonder how they manage to function in the world.
Fascinating, really.

So if I were to buy one. What waifu platforms are available?

waiting for steam vr, fuck the oculus

>>25552858
Windows so far. Mac and linux are planned.

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>>25552948
>waiting for DRM: The Hardware
holy shit, what a fucking faggot lol

>>25552950
Neat. But when I said waifu platform I meant more a literal platform were I can bang my waifu. And when I say literal I mean digital.

>>25552993
fuck are you talking about? You mean what VR porn software is out right now?

>>25552984
what anime is that from?

inb4 im a faggot for not knowing

Wait until they support apple products and normies will buy it like fresh bread

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Watching the reddit AMA with Palmer right now.
All questions are about the price.
>mfw he hasn't answered any yet

>>25551848
For now sure. Those gadgets are to true VR tech what early palm pilots are to current flagship smartphones.

>>25553023
I'm saying can I get close and comfortable with my waifu if I put on the goggles. Actually, scratch my waifu. A waifu. I'm not expecting a precoursory waifu to be available for quite some time.

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>the first iteration of a technology is slightly more expensive than I was hoping
>therefore the industry as a whole is doomed

Top lel, do you have any idea how much the first PCs cost?

Also $600 includes an xbone controller and fancy VR headphones, kinda shitty that we are forced to buy those things in this preorder, but if they could be persuaded to sell just the headset it could go as low as 450-500

>>25553197
yeah, there are a shit load of apps out there that let you import your own waifu and have them walk around/dance for you.
Of course, you'll have to 3d model your own, so...

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>>25553198
just sell the controller for a le profit :^)

>>25553162
For sure forever. Technological development is dead. In 20 years you will have nothing other than a slightly faster computer/smartphone and higher resolutions.

>>25553361
the advancement of technology has been consistent. In fact its been exponential. It is the one thing that has been able to overcome the market, war, and politics. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>25553248
How high polygon count are we talking though? I don't want some AA2 stuff. I want a cosy beach or cottage platform. Of course this means custom waifus will be sideswiped but I have no problem with a pre-load.

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>>25551848
I WILL HAVE MY WAIFU I SWEAR IT!!!!

>>25553445
>polygon count
depends on what model you import.
No offense, but you're not very tech literate, are you?

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>>25551848
>Still shilling the most exciting computer technology of 1990 AD.
>current year
AR is best R. You'll understand when you're "jacked in" and suddenly have to use the toilet.

I for damn sure won't buy one until the price goes down. I'm not about to spend almost $2,000 just so I can pretend to have sex with an anime girl.

>$599.00
>It's the PS3 all over again
>It's new tech, initially, it will be shit

Dismissed.

>>25553533
I'm literate enough to get AA2 working. I just don't want to step into a world of blocks. I need the immersion to stack up to the price. But I'm getting that there are currently no high fidelity waifu platforms out there. Which is fine really because this thing seems new enough that UPS is still loading them up.

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>>25553644
I thought this as well and I only be checking the Jap scenes out anyway.
>Might as well buy the Sony one.

>>25553638
>AR
>not wanting to escape from reality
nigga what are you doing

>>25553644
With all the exterior hardware needed to get an authentic experience the price might not ever be in the one months pay range.

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>>25551848
I don't get why people keep calling this shit virtual reality, it's just two screens strapped to your face. Not to mention you still have to use a keyboard or controller, which completely ruins any chance of felling immersed. Google is competing with this shit by literally selling people pieces of cardboard. It goes on your phone and an app splits your phone's screen into two images.

Get back to me when virtual reality is walking into my closet and feeling like it's a holodeck.

>>25553659
well each model has its own polygon count. I'm sure when the rift comes out, a lot of artists will jump at trying to sell their own models. You'll probably find a lot of high quality models then.

>>25553719
Have you tried it yourself? No you obviously haven't.

I can't even afford 800$ for a PC GAMING, imagine 2000$

I will never play a good game but much important i will never meet my waifu with oculus

>>25551848
just like other technologies the price will decrease as competition, demand, and innovations increase

>>25552656
>some shitty AI is supposed to be my waifu
Fuck that, I've got my tulpa. Way more immersed in my fantasy life this way.

Holy shit, you're retarded, everything is expensive when it's new, it will come down in price.

>>25553719
if only you knew how far behind you were on the information you'd realize how retarded you sound right now.

These things are gonna be in the Wal-Mart bargain bin soon enough. Once the competition starts rolling there's no fighting it.

soon brothers, soon.
http://s1.webmshare.com/ZaQEG.webm

>>25553714
Unless some breakthrough chances a massive decline in computer hardware prices as new hardware gets better and better still.

>>25552641
I'm successful what

>>25554170
that usually takes 2 years.

>>25553981
2bh i'd feel like a major fool watching vr porn like that and using my hand

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>>25554185
Not sure what you mean?
>current year
>being social.
>poisoning your body.
>Not working for yourself and your interests.
I don't get your post.

>>25553981
Can't wait.

>VR as a whole will flop
Okay? I don't care.
I'm not investing any time or money into it.

>>25553434
That's why I said faster computers and smartphones. But there is no more innovation. Every hip new idea is a shitty gimmick. Where's the next lightbulb? Where's the next automobile? We can hardly outdo the moonlanding now.

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>>25554230
>the price might not ever be in one months pay range
>that usually takes 2 years

I don't think I need to explain what's wrong here.

>>25553709
Why escape and fuck up my inner ear when I can simply paper over all the ugliness of life with AR magic?

>My shitty dinner can look like a jubilee of exotic delights.
>My body pillow can come alive as I cum.
>My black neighbors can even look like animu aryans.
Reality will be INCREDIBLE.

>>25554494
A massive decline in price for current technology usually takes 2 years.

>>25554460
the advancement in technology doesn't just equal faster shit, it amounts to new technologies and innovations.
All hardware reaches a point where it can no longer be advanced. Take a CRT monitor for example, or a flip phone. They are replaced by something completely different, but somewhat familiar. Thats how technology progress.

I'm sure we'll eventually get some sort of eye contacts that lets us browse the Internet and call others.

You've got to be seriously deluded and pessimistic if you think we've reached the end of innovation.

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>>25551848

>normies won't have one
>thinking this is bad

Less normies means less complaining about gf/waifu sims and better vidya. Also, people who are interested in this probably already have a PC capable of running VR.

>>25554496
>My black neighbors can even look like animu aryans.

Right before they beat the shit out of you and steal your expensive AR rig

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>>25554814
In the near future AR is affordable because it's not as cumbersome, resource intensive, and benefits from economy of scale -- as everyone likes it.

So not only can I replace my AR set, the low income negros can afford AR! Britty sure they replaced me with Grape Ape.

>>25551848
you're looking at it from an american perspective, all our waifu shit is gonna come straight from japan

>>25555393
>implying AR will be more popular than VR
imagine jumping from world to world seeing unique creations from a million different minds.
Theres no way people will want to stay in reality.

>>25555463
>creations from a million different minds

And most of it will be pure unadulterated shit.

>>25555508
Of course there will be worlds with mountains of dildos, but more than likely, a company will organize and prioritize the quality world for a low price. Thats enough to make sure VR beats AR.
No doubt AR will be neat, but for it to be truly special, you'd need to wear the head mount at all times, which won;t be possible for most people.

>>25555508

This

Play Mario Maker for a few minutes if you want to see what creations from a million different minds look like. Sure there is the occasional gem but you have to wade through mountains of bullshit to find anything worthwhile. I guess it's similar to 4chan in that respect.

>>25555783
IYes, but there will be people trying to capitalize on the sorting of good content. Thats is enough to boost VR because people will be willing to experience unique worlds.

AR is a problem because it relies on some pretty advance AI (for interactive avatars in your world) - AI that is too advance for indie developers. This is why AR is a poor bet for the next 20 years.

Price will come down over time. In the mean time, thanks for beta testing.

>>25553719
Anyone used these cardboard gizmos? Are they any good?

>>25555992
no. they're terrible and I wish they didn't exist because they give the wrong impression of vr.

>>25554531
>usually takes 2 years

>other guy said might not ever be

Yes, and "never" is very different from "in two years"

>>25556478
what are you even trying to say?
b

>>25555931
Exactly. How dumb are these people. It's obvious the technology is workable, it will just take time to get it mass production ready. Same as big screen TV, same as home pc, same as home video, all of these ideas were originally just for the super wealthy and had big drawbacks for the first few years. Eventually they were ready at a mature tech state and cheap price that made it mass market ready.

It won't be vive and Oculus 1, it will be vive and Oculus 2 or 3 that really hit the big time.

>>25556892
most people know that, but for many tech workers, $600 isnt that much to blow on a cool gadget

>>25551931
informatics student here with passion for robotics

Anon, I will give my best to make this reality.
All my energy to fullfil this glory goal!

>>25557227
said every tech enthusiast.

>>25552847
I like how you argued against me by refuting the point that it's the same hype that was built up for 3D printing and yet it's not a common item in households.
kill yourself.

>all these butthurt babies defending their investment in this thread
lel, enjoy your shit goggles m80s

>>25557691

599 US doesn't mean shit to me. Sorry you can't afford it.

>>25552177

this

I analyze retail equities as my profession...I actually have to input this into my value projections. fucking normies

>>25557726
QQ more baby james

>>25557691
I don't own it and won't own one for several years, but I understand the importance of this technology. Its like the iphone 1, introducing new technology to the populace that will revolutionize the way we consume media and communicate with eachother.
Only a fool would think VR is a gimmick.

>>25557764
this isn't VR, this is a gimmick, it's two screens strapped to your eyes. until we have real computer on brain communication, I won't be impressed. we're already making strides in giving sight to the blind, I'll wait until we get real VR.

>>25557836
>real VR is how I define it
this is VR by all definitions. Just because its not sending shocks to your brain doesn't mean its a gimmick. And you should acknowledge that this is leading the way to the tech that you want.

>>25557889
this is far from being VR, the only senses you can stimulate are sight and sound which is a far cry from real VR, it's only been in recent years that the standard of VR has been lowered to meet those of these goggles.

as for these goggles paving the way towards the technology that I want, you are sorely mistaken, the technology that is paving the way towards what I want is what is helping the disabled and being developed by the military, the same technology that gives senses back and gives feedback to people's stubs.

>>25557975
the world of these "VR" headsets and the world of neural interface VR are entirely different, there is no overlap.

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>>25557975
again
>virtual reality is how I define it
is wrong.

And this technology is being used by the military and medical industry.
How fucking stupid do you have to be in order not to see the potential and future results of this technology.

>>25557975
Don't ever get into equity trading. You're going to fail spectacularly.

>>25558033
>How fucking stupid do you have to be in order not to see the potential and future results of this technology.
I've just been saying that it's not VR and it won't take off, does that really hurt your feelings this much?

>>25558070
alright, well whatever you need to belove in your small world.

>>25558088
come back when 3D printers are in everyone's homes and then let's wait another 10 years for these headsets to do the same.
we can hold hands while we wait.

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>>25558107
what the fuck does 3d printers have to do with a technology thats readily available and can be used by most consumers?

3d printers cannot be used by most people and are severely limited in capability.

Your critical thinking skills are ridiculously low.

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I don't think this is it guys, I think VR is too much for us right now. I think it's going to be another 10 years before VR is really here.

>>25558163
you don't think the average person wouldn't like making trinkets with a 3D printer?

>>25558225
except the process isn't refined and convinient enough and 3d printers are aimed at the general masses.

>>25558253
*aren't aimed at the general masses

>>25558253
you can get a 3D printer for a couple hundred bucks from ebay, there are thousands of schematics for things to print online.

>>25558330
great, but its not aimed at or convenient enough for the common consumer.
Either way, believe what you want.

I remember having a similar discussion with /v/ fags 3 years ago who insisted that VR was a gimmick and would never make it to mass production and yet here we are.

Like I said, your critical think skills are horrendous. You're blind to whats right in font of you.

>>25552641
81! I'm a cyborg! Yay!

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The normies did this on purpose.
They wanted to price out half of us NEETs just to extend our misery some more.

>>25558530
It was expected for being the first of its kind.

>>25553032
it's shit, don't worry about it

Does anyone have any idea how much sony vr will cost? Do you think it'll be $600 like oculus is?

>>25551848
The occulus rigt is the perfect excuse to use as spying software. Mock my words if this gets great it will be google 2.0

>>25559181
>mock my words

>>25551848
To me this isn't virtual reality. Reality is your experience and where as it might be grounded in a virtual environment, you are not experiencing that environment as if you were there - you're disconnected. Like looking out of a submarine window at the deep ocean world knowing you can't just go and be one of the fish.

Until they manage to make it so you can insert your consciousness into a game and have you actually fully immersed in an experience set within a virtual reality - I'm not buying.

>>25559221
What? Is there anything funny?

>>25553766
I really can't figure out if tulpas are real or just a meme

>>25553766
You got a real tulpa?

>>25559437
I doubt it. It's probably just some Chinese knockoff tulpa.

>>25551848
Why not go out and ask girls on drinks?

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>>25559515
Yes. Very funny joke anon.

>>25552641
>you are less robot because you are attractive and not obese
A failed normal made this test.

>>25557227
>informatics student
How does it fell knowing that I will make more than you ever will without going to school passed high school?

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>>25559594
That's what I said.
>doing drugs makes you a robot.
>being a nonsocial shit who makes money makes you more of a normie than said druggies that have had sex.

VR will be the next motion controls. Nobody wanted that shit and nobody ever will. Give me a mouse, keyboard, and a monitor and fuck off. Developers should make good games instead of gimmicky shit.

>>25551848
I remember when Quake required a top of the line pc to play

can't believe people are buying the facebook vr when the others ones arent even out yet

>>25559792
thats probably why, it doesnt have any competition and people need VR asap or they will literally die

>>25551931
Basically this. I want to feel everything, if it's only visuals it's not much better than just looking at my monitor.

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>tfw AMD cpu

What happened r9k? Didnt you say your life will be complete once you can buy he oculus? Looks like its too much for you? Maybe you shouldve gotten a job instead of living on neetbux and chicken tendies :^)

FUCKING OWNED LOSERS

>600$ for a gimmick that's only useful for walking simulators
no ty

>>25561380
Actually I'm waiting for Vive, which will be even more expensive, but I can afford it easily thanks to the kind donations from hard working wagecucks.

>>25560285
So then, you just have a pipe dream. Enjoy the rest of your nogf life.

>>25559276
Won't ever happen. You don't even have a reason to look forward to a waifu age.

>>25553766
>Fuck that, I've got my mental illness

FTFY.

>>25552641
Please post the original

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>>25561620
I lost it,give me a sec.

>China collapse
>just have to mention it.

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>>25561620
Here you go.
>tfw you got out early.

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>>25561715
Thank you very much Anon :)
ORIGINAL COMMENT REEEE

>>25554266
One the chart I was quoting

>>25559305
Only way to know is to find out. I started 'tuplaforcing' like a week ago and my imagination is getting better at picturing things within reality and I only assume that after months of this people become experts so it happens automatically.

At least that's my understanding of it.