I don't normally visit 4chan, but as a woman I just want you "robots" to know that looks really aren't that big of a deal for us. Most of you come off as really bitter and uninteresting. I guarantee if you guys picked up some hobbies 99% of you would have no trouble attracting women. Seriously, I feel for you guys. But we can smell your desperation and bitterness a mile away.
Women are not physically attracted to men's bodies directly. While they may be turned on by masculine aesthetics, its not in the same sense that men desire to touch hold and caress the things the find arousing of a woman's body.
They are attracted to things like wealth, status, power, charisma, and utility that emanate from his body, lifestyle and personality, not the body itself.
Men are only attracted to women's bodies, and things like emanate from her body directly, like the sound of her voice, the look in her eyes, the warmth of her smile, the way she laughs, etc. Men are not attracted to personalities, a sexy personality can make a sexy woman sexier, but if a man is not physically attracted to her, there is no way he ever could be (while sober), doesn't matter what her personality is like. Women can be swayed by personalities, which is why you will often see not so bad looking women with disgusting slobs of men, while men would rather just be alone than be with someone they're not at all attracted to. This is also why PUA tricks can work even for ugly fatasses.
So I hope I explained well enough these common misunderstandings.
1) Don't know what that means.
2) Gender politics interests me, and this place is about as bizarre as it gets.
3) Have you considered hobbies which get you socializing? I'm making assumptions, but video games and anime are not going to help you meet people.
how old are you?
and if you could go back in time and be this attractive, would you do it?
I'm not big into anime myself, only a couple series. I'm more into reading history and really anything to do with history. I don't like socializing much, and don't like such hobbies, but that doesn't mean I don't get lonely and depressed because of it. Also, lots of us (including myself) are mentally ill (diagnosed Schizhotypal Personality Disorder here).
Because I need to get over this? This feeling is driving me mad. I dont care if she doesnt want to be my friend anymore, I just dont want to bother her with this or create trouble with his bf
May I ask why you became friends with her in the first place? You wouldn't happen to be one of those Nice Guys would you? Seems kind of manipulative to not make your intentions clear from the beginning.
They also lack social skills. Also they fail to get how dealing with the other gender works. Women have no hobbies by default = you have to teach them about your hobbies.
>3) Have you considered hobbies which get you socializing? I'm making assumptions, but video games and anime are not going to help you meet people.
I met my current gf at an anime fest.
Lol, absolute TRP bullshit. My partner count is irrelevant, and the cock carousel is one of the most idiotic theories I've ever heard of. Which 20yr old doesn't want to experiment and experience? I do plan on getting married eventually, but why is it such a problem that for now I just want to have a good time? Any man who is obsessed with his partners number is not worth an LTR.
Oh boy, I have a feeling that 400+ posts will be in here!
Ooh boy look who showed up! Good thing we have a knight for m'lady!
I was her friends for 4 years before falling in love with her, so you tell me...
Besides, I dont give a fuck about what you think of me OP, I just need to know how would you react as a female if a friend of yours came with this. Im not expecting reciprocration, I just want to be free of this feel
Did you just say the Cock Carousel is bullshit, then say that everyone rides it?
Why do women think their number is irrelevant but if I fuck one escort I'm dirty?
Explain the logic behind taking fifty cocks in all holes being an experiment (woman science apparently) but paying a whore for a blowjob is a deal breaker?
in theory, is it even possible that any female would ever like me.
Because you are unattractive, so you dont deserve to have sex at all. You are actually less than an item in their opinion so please just disappear.
I think she is gone.
Honestly you are wasting your time here. Most people here have been told to be "themselves", for as long as time immemorial. This advice alienates their peers even more. Hobbies will not help, as we all have hobbies that we are comfortable with already. Most of us will not stray from our comfort zones. Most of us have been hurt emotionally to the point of where we often won't take any emotional risks anymore.
Again lady you're wasting your time. We already feel worthless, like we won't ever amount to anything. And most of us want to solve our problems on our own anyway, we have been daydreaming of that day when, we'll prove the world that hurt us so much, wrong. Which is why so few of us want to take any advice from someone else. We're too prideful to accept help. Which is why we don't want to accept help from someone that says they are "average" or "normal". We don't want to accept help from the same people who have been mostly treated normally throughout their lives.
Believe me lady, we appreciate the gesture, but it's futile at this point.
You are far from ugly, but I can see the chub and sadness. If you work on your personality and make yourself interesting you are more than capable of finding a women to be in a relationship with. If you are interested in ONS, you need to hit the gym a little, if you lost some weight and got a haircut, generally worked on style, you could easily be put at a 7/10 maybe higher.
umm i think its bullshit that i do some bad things and im a bad person but someone else does it and its fine. like wise i think its bullshit that sometimes i do good things and people think im trying to lure them into my rape cave (Its a mess!) bacsialbey i just want to be told that everythinng will be oky....
Checking the dubs.
Also, is this an attempt to fit in with self-deprecating humor?
Having brain washed by watching porn in childhood I am quite unable to bahave normaly in society. Maybe after theraphy this will change but for now this board need to substitute my social life.
From a cyborg's point of view you look fine, just groom a bit and get in the habit of talking to women, no matter the difference, if you CAN make any effort to a social life and with it comes results. With results can come failure but, if done long enough will result in success. Just make an effort robot
You have to be a troll, as you are proving us correct.
>get ostracized from other people at a early age
>this makes it harder for you to have more hobbies to "MAKE YOUR SELF INTERESTING" due to people not really wanting you around
>instead develop hobbies that require you being alone
>Stacie comes by and says "OMG Stop complaining so much! You're just uninteresting! Get a hobby"
However, I believe the key to getting women have nothing to do with affinity with a hobby or their tone. I think women do care a lot about looks but it's superseded by wealth and other status boosting features a man would have which serve as caveats to a relationship. As for superficial fucking, I think aptness and confidence win women over as it also attracts the thought that this man is very vocal about his social worth. If a man is to get a hobby he should never do it for women, but for self improvement, taking his being and helping him become a mensch, and women could too if they weren't so hung up on men serving to elevate their status instead of striving to achieve it themselves. Instead, in our society, the difficulty of getting boned is extremely low, since so many sluts roam around - because of this, men have little motivation to improve and women too as they can so easily woo a man. Many people complain here because their low worth is rejected by superficial women, all the while seeking refuge from the fact that to be productive in society they have to strive to become an ubermensch.
Aside from that, most people bitter about relationships here are merely shitposting and you are too.
This sounds like a tumblrina degree.
>Have you considered hobbies which get you socializing?
Why would I choose a hobby I don't enjoy to attract people who enjoy things I don't, I enjoy programming, video games, cartoons and being a handyman.
>My partner count is irrelevant
That's statistically incorrect please observe the chart.
>not worth an LTR
You're play acting at marriage, anyone who's serious about getting married doesn't want someone who fools around.
Pretty effective thread in reminding everyone why /r9k/ is the cesspit for the bottom of the barrel of losers. The only thing I can't be sure of is how many "robots" are trolls, and how many are actual autistic sperglord virgins with mental issues.
It does matter. See the graph above. Plus, it is extremely intimidating.
And that's not even going into my religious reasons for being wholly against fornication.
It's not about shame it's about the facts, higher partner counts lead to less stable marriage.
Want a good marriage? Don't marry someone with a long sexual history your chances get incredibly good if she's a virgin.
You are the most pathetic poster I've ever seen in my life.
You can tell yourself you're "only pretending to be retarded" at night, but you know the real reason you white knight women on an anonymous imageboard is because deep down inside, you are a cuck. A worthless, beta orbiter cuck.
of course partner count matters men arent able to do EVERYThing youve ever enjoyed in bed, and the fact that you enjoy something we cannot do means you do not love us as much as you could
Women comprise 50% of society, our bodies are biologically harder to manage. If you help subsidize things like birth control, and menstrual gear it makes life easier for us and allows us to more effectively contribute to society.
If you were waiting for valid questions you should've never came here in the first place and conjured such a shit tier post which generalizes all of women and every anonymous man on this board without a shred of statistics. Then you go on to provide empty advice whilst avoiding perfectly valid questions, to establish ethos and reclaim any credibility of yourself to persuade or even be positively received by anyone you need to have some verifiable information about yourself. Fuck off.
i fucked 2 woman through video games socializing
they traveled 600-1200kms
and made a bunch of friends who traveled here, i traveled there
i have my real life friends and my online friends
you are full of shit and need to fuck off
funnily enough when i mention this, somehow vidya gammeeeezz stop being so boring and horrible and if i couple it up with my english, i can get pussy just based on this if i really try
because suddenly i stop being boring for fucking foreign bitches
baka family, women are dumb
Men comprise 50% of society, our bodies are biologically easier to manage, so we aren't a drain on society. If you help subsidize things like blowjobs, and shutting the fuck up once in a while, it makes life easier for us and allows us to more effectively contribute to society
So, how about it? Either give my tax money back or suck my dick.
You comprise more than that, yet, somehow, there are more single men than women. Probably because people like you promote the death of monogamy.
>gender politics interest me
Do you believe that the most qualified person should be hired?
BECAUSE SOME RETARDED FUCKING BITCH GOT THE SAME POSITION I DID BECAUSE SHE'S A FUCKING FEMALE
at least I'm the top of my class and got recommendations from my professors.
Btw I'm a grill :^)
do you not realize that when men and women get married, they marry each other? thus removing themselves from the singles pool at exactly the same rate?
there are more single men simply because there are more men, period. as you can see from your chart, it's only a very slight difference, but it is real.
I'd have no problem subsidizing male birth control. Isn't that something MRA push for?
I am 5"9, I'm a tad picky about height. I prefer those taller than me, and above 6ft is a huge +.
I don't want to experiment or have sexual experience. I am female and my gender disgusts me. One day I'll get a sex change and then shove pistols up sluts and ask them how the dock carousel is right before I pull the trigger.
I wasn't going to pay attention to this thread but "my partner count is irrelevant" and "who doesn't want to experiment and experience"
Damn, r9k was right. I was going to take it as a grain of salt but not anymore.
maybe the split in evolution between humans and chimps happened because chimps couldn't stop fucking. I hope im not objectively wrong otherwise this thread might derail into a biology argument.
Chimps are a separate genus, their social interactions are different to ours.
Almost every society has monogamy, almost certainly because it prevents one person from cucking everyone else, and therefore prevents too many men being depressed and lonely.
And, again, religious reasons. You have no reason to tell us that our partner count doesn't matter when we think it does, because such is subjective. If you want to ride the cock carousel, then find a guy who is okay with the high chance of divorce.
>there are more single men simply because there are more men, period
There are more women than men in america, for that age range specifically I'm not sure if it holds.
good job are you getting fucked after this by her for doing such a good job whiteknighting?
Oh look what you did you fucking idiot
Another tripfag on r9k! And its another whore as well. Why don't you fucking white knights and whores go to reddit where you belong?
Oh yea and tell us about all the hot sex you get from Katie by defending her so much!
Fucking losers like you are the reason women are so entitled these days.
More reasons on why sexual history matters in marriage:
>A widely reported new study claims that people -- especially women -- who have multiple sexual parters before tying the knot, report unhappier marriages down the line.
>According to researchers, the 23 percent of participants who only had sex with their spouse prior to getting hitched reported higher quality marriages versus those who had other past sexual partners as well.
>They claim this finding is especially true for women, writing in the report, "We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy she reported her marriage to be."
Im not sure I fully agree with, as you might have these views but you can't speak for the whole female population as they probably do only like really attractive people.
And If that were the case, I would be in a relationship, I have several hobbies like scuba diving, snowboarding, surfing and keep myself really fit. But I still don't have any really close friends still can't find a girl that's attracted to me
If he had the capacity to become this it says a lot about his underlying personality. He sounds very possessive and potentially abusive, it would have manifested in one way or the other.
>redpill is wrong
>here is a list of how I fit trp's ideas of women to a tee
Experiment all you like, just know everyone thinks you're a worthless slam pig. Once your looks fade all you have is a pile of stds and regrets to show for your slutting around.
I'm not Katie, I am the history & religion fag. I tolerate her because she made a thread that could be ignored or not ignored, and we are actually having halfway decent discussion (which is weird, as I'm usually one of the first to REEEEEEEEEEE).
If you (male or female) had the capacity to sleep with a bunch of sexual partners it says a lot about your underlying personality. You sound very promiscuous and potentially dishonest, it will manifest itself in one way or another.
Get the fuck off my board.
This whole post sums up women.
Anon said some bad words and it's indicative of his future potential negative behavior.
This roastie rides the cock carousel but it's got nothing to do with her potential future behavior.
I swear, the more I interact with women the less I like them because of shit like this.
I don't fully agree with you, as this is your opinion and you can't really say that on behalf of all women, as they might just like people who are super attractive. And If that were the case of hobbies, I'd have some proper friends or have a gf, as I scuba dive, surf, snowboard, rock climb, keep myself really fit and am doing an engineering degree, so why don't I have proper friends or a gf, I still feel lonely af
You can judge someones existence based on a single post?
Why aren't you making money being a clairvoyant or some other shit-tier profession, you worthless piece of shit.
I can't wait for you to be ruined like eggman.
why dont you call yourself bby i am too scared!!! <3
Keep this up guy, you might even get a sideboob pic after this!
>if you guys picked up some hobbies 99% of you would have no trouble attracting women
>if you guys didn't had nerdy hobbies 99% of you would have no trouble attracting women
I almost think a lot of normie women don't even realize this: it isn't the hobbies of Chad that make him interesting to her, it is Chad that makes his hobbies interesting to her.
You really don't get it. Sure, some virgin robots want a virgin waifu. I bet half the guys here want to be normal or are failed normies. What makes guys bitter more than anything else is rejection or being treated differently than other people. If you want to slut it up, go ahead, but don't change your selection criteria when you want to settle down and then expect the beta providers you rejected for casual fun to not be bitter.
>we can smell your desperation and bitterness a mile away.
How is that not a self-fulfilling prophecy?
You're making stuff up, some hobbies are obviously more social than others.
Fake girl confirmed.
I'm pretty sure hunters can love animals too, you've hardly blown the case wide open that she's unaware.
I'm a meek man. ugly, lazy, socially inept and incapable of change but I have hobbies that I enjoy (yes vidya, programming, writing and drawing. I'm interested in art, film music and fiction) but apparently this means I'll be forever alone and I've accepted myself for who I am.
Why should I have to change so much about myself just to even be noticed by a member of the opposite sex. You don't want me for me you want to mould me into what you want me to be. And that just ain't me!
I'm clean, fit, healthy open minded but that's still not enough, apparently I need to be very socially involved, have hobbies you can tell your friends about without them raising eyebrows, and be more interesting to everyone.
Yes, some are, but we don't care about the social aspects of the hobbies, we care whether we enjoy them. Otherwise, they wouldn't be very good hobbies, now would they? Now, why should a woman degrade our hobbies and find them uninteresting?
Of course you'll see it as awful. You are a man.
I've seen men cheated on, and men who cheat. At the end of the day they're the ones being shit on regardless.
I've seen women cheated on, and women who cheat. At the end of the day there is a big hugbox for her to retire to, where all her friends and hopeful orbiters console her.
>It isn't your fault, you were drunk
>It was a mistake
>He didn't pay enough attention to you
And now I want her take on it.
We dont want to experiment, i personally want 1 (one) friendly and sweet gf who will be faithful until we die, im sure many robots feel the same.
Its also PROVEN the more partners a woman has the more likely she is to leave her husband/partner.
every road eventually leads to socializing. socializing is identical to "go talk to this guy" video game quests.
you meet people, you don't care about them at all, they introduce you to other people and you just keep doing this until you finally get to the objective which is women.
maybe you find a fancy for the people you come across during your ultimate journey which is to find the social space of women, maybe you make a friend or two, but socializing is a means to an end and it's not entertaining in and of it's self, only the "pay outs" are entertaining.
if you want to maintain integrity, you do shit because you actually want to.
1) Not a grill
2) It seems obvious that if you're too thirsty it'll be off-putting
3) However if you're low-status I wager any approach might appear the same as thirstiness because she just doesn't want you
4) Some of you fags just want to fugg every skank you can and are just failed chads, creeps aint just a meme
5) Some bitches are cruel and just don't give a fuck and will mock you for being sensitive
6) Some niggas are too needy and need to stop fucking crying and looking for everyone to listen to their sobfest
>Now, why should a woman degrade our hobbies and find them uninteresting?
Don't you mean would? 5) and 3) apply here, but there's also girls who feel like your hobby contributes to your delinquency (no job, out of shape, etc) or that you ignore her for your hobby.
But honestly in respect to the fact that nobody really gives a fuck about your hobbies that they don't share, she enjoys 'chads' hobbies if they're indicators of good mental or physical health or if they're pro-social. I bet if chad liked rock climbing and you liked rock climbing she won't turn around and say rock climbing is shit but she won't wanna rock climb with you for two reasons 1) she likes rock climbing but not you, 2) she only liked rock climbing because it brought her closer to chad and she's not going to bore her self with niggas she doesn't like.
Honestly I don't see the point in dissecting the evils of fictional sluts if you don't plan on mingling with said sluts, this board is infested with magnifying and obsessing over your own problems and then building up hate containers for it (stacies, chads). Not to say that it's all lies or that some people haven't been burned but a lot of what goes on here is wholly unproductive bitter whining, I get that honestly and can't fault people for being depressed but you can't honestly start blaming people for your social woes who haven't personally harmed you.
Are you retarded? Look at the age range for the map that was posted, and look more carefully at the wikipedia section you posted. There are absolutely more women 20-34, unless you think that whole 15-64 range is identical and then it drops to 0.75 at 65.
What I always get from women is:
>If ur rich and popular, and you don't judge me and insult me for instantly dropping my panties for rich and popular guys, I'll drop my panties 4 u 2 maybe
it's not much to get excited about
The map refers to metropolitan areas, so how do you react to almost all of the ones on there having more women than men, yet still more male singles?
>get a hobby
I've been drawing since i was little and sell paintings to rich people for a living and yet, i'm a KHV. Can't explain that, huh?
A hobby isn't a hobby to women unless it's a blatant grab for attention
like learning open chords on the acoustic guitar, that will make most stupid women fuck you
Everything means something else for women. It's like how they say "personality" but what they mean is actually status.
Without even looking at your link, I can tell you what you're getting wrong, because you didn't specifically mention it.
Overall, there are more women than men. More men than women are born, but men die younger, enough to shift the overall balance to women.
The map that was posted ITT is for 20-34. At that range, there are almost certainly more men. The closest figure we have is that it's even for the 15-64 range, but 20-34 is on the young end of that.
BTW, since the retirement age is the same for everyone, that means men are subsidizing women all the more.
>Women live a lot longer.
But at what rate or age range do the men drop off?
There are no comparable age ranges so this doesn't really solve the riddle for me, and for say new york just because all across the us more men are born than women doesn't mean that holds true for new york in particular. Migration is another confounder, especially for metropolises.
As a note, I'm not trying to say that promiscuity is without consequence but that there's sometimes ulterior motive for REEEing at chad and stacy.
Can you post some? Art's a talent I really appreciate, especially since I've tried and failed at it.
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I just can't stand the fucking clown game we habe to pull off for women. If you think about it, it is insane how privilidged women are in all things concerning relationships. Take and take, demand and demand without any obligation for any imput.
I am simply not willing to play this game, just for the tiny chance of being found worthy. That is why I simply lost all interest in women other than visiting a prostitute once a week. By all means I am doing fantastic and can afford a lot more luxuries than my normie froends and their 'better halfs'.
So maybe they are all old people. You haven't provided any evidence that contradicts what I've said. Also, it's not clear that what you posted uses the same boundaries as the map that was in the thread.
Posted a lot at some point. I have my own way of painting, easily recognizable, so i'd rather not.
But my question remains unanswered: have drawing as a hobby, paint for a living, really enjoy it and i'm still a KHV despite being outside at least three hours a day.
You must live somewhere affordable. Biggest expense here is housing and the best way to get a nicer place is to split it. I know it's just economics but it's just another way socially well adjusted people are privileged and people living with their partners most of all.
rip the family community your parents could've just set you up with someone
Hope you find someone bro, I don't think the OP is here and it's mostly just b8
It still doesn't necessarily hold true for any specific area listed, especially for places like nyc and LA which have wildly different demographics than your average smalltown.
But from the article the chick has your same theory but she hasn't crunched the numbers by area either so it's just a guess, the problem being acute around metropolises is either from better data or lonely city niggas.
stop being a nigger
My place is pretty expensive, its for couples, but I turnes the spare room into an Tabletop room for Pen and Paper and Warhammer. After saxing goodbye to the dating bullshit and stopped wallowing in self pity I focused on my education and got a pretty well paying job.
It certainly would be interesting to see more detailed data but I don't know where to find it, other than the site with the map that was originally posted. That seems to show more men overall so I don't know how they come up with that. It probably doesn't include widows who prefer to remain single.
I could technically afford a nicer place on my own but rent here is $3000+ for a decent 1br, probably $3500+ for a 2br.
At least this way I can save a lot for if I decide to GTFO.
Here are your choices virgins:
1. Play the game and accept what you have to do to get laid an/or have a relationship (most of which is surprisingly enjoyable, just don't choose a fucking retard of a girl)
2. Decide not to play.
Being in the middle and complaining makes you a fucking pussy.
See this is why western women are such shit. They ride the cock carousel for years and then once they realize they're getting old and unattractive they settle down with some beta who doesn't care that shes a massive whore
>but too ashamed to post the count even anonymously
Katie, let's talk about cock for a second
if you have been with a guy with a really big cock, like 8 inches or something, and then got with a guy with a normal cock like 6" would you be disappointed?
>make yourself interesting
What is this fucking bullshit advice? I see it fucking everywhere and it's so vague, they never tell you how to have an interesting life but just to have one.
It is bullshit.
Look up the halo effect and see my pic
You are all fucking retards for falling for this shit.
>I'm a girl!
>Provides no proof
>People respond to it acting as if it was a girl
Every fucking time.
ITT: were reminded normalfags will never be able to understand
You cucks just want female interaction so bad you don't care what you talk about
In your opinion as a femanon. What are the tell-tale signs that your girlfriend wants to marry you for your money and nothing else?
I am a successful good looking person and I always get the feel that I might be exploited which makes me always on my guard.
the point is that normalfags understand and that you're the one who will learn and grow, with or without your advice. all normalfags were like you once, hoping to get attention by doing things like getting a fucking tripcode on r9k.
Tell me why you are no different from the average women then.
Not bitter just tired of your stupid shit as society is becoming a rotten onion.
Also why do your kind always go for the same cliche guy ?
>3) Have you considered hobbies which get you socializing? I'm making assumptions, but video games and anime are not going to help you meet people.
yes but i can't think of one that's enjoyable desu
wew lad, look at those gets.
anyway, you are as uninteresting as we are, men only give you the time of day because you're a woman with an axe wound between your legs, you value yourself far too highly, you're going to have to settle for these bitter and uninteresting losers eventually.
Why are robots so concerned with just getting laid? Sex without meaning is unfullfilling. I'd rather have a best friend with whom to spend my life with. Also this place is a cesspool. Stop coming here robots. It just perpetuates the problwms. I stopped coming on here and realized im not even a robot. Just have a little anxiety. Started working out and having hobbies like OP said and suddenly im getting looks from across the room from all sorts of women. Although I usually just pretend they don't exist because I refuse to put pussy on a pedestal.
what about those of us that can't enjoy life? i can't think of one "hobby" that i would enjoy. my only happiness is food, sleep, and drugs. i have been lifting for 2 years but as a manlet my body will literally never attract women. i never had a gf but i suspect if i did i would be able to feel happy for the first time in years
Also you "femmebots" make this thread every fucking day pls go
Oh shit dubs. uhhhh I guess either Robowizard, Necro, or from the Deep.... Fuck it Robowizard, in honor of /m/
completely false. I'm relatively decent looking, have tons of cool traditionally masculine hobbies, and have a fairly wide circle of friends who all think im funny and smart.
women still dont care because im not Chad. this is the age of extreme hypergamy
If you're physically attracted to a woman's personality before, or more than her body, you're probably a faggot or trans lesbian.
actually my friend looks like you but maybe 20 pound less and he gets chicks easily. Funny thing is that he doesn't know that I am a virgin and I still pretend to have some good sex each few weeks.