>go on ED surfing spree to indulge in nostalgia as moot has left
>end up on the article for awesome face
>apparently it originated on some tiny website called Pokemopolis
>try visiting Pokemopolis
>its forums closed last year and the website itself is closing at the end of 2015
Why does time keeps ruining everything?
The awesome face is such a big milestone in internet culture. Yeah, it got fucked and turned into pure unmediated cancer since at least 2008, but you can't deny it wasn't popular as fuck. Kids had awesome face as their game avatars for ages (and even to this day I can still spot a few on tf2), and yet the origin of this thing is fading to obscurity in front of us. If it wasn't for this ED article, who would've known the origin of the awesome face? Who would know its origin in 5 years? Who will remember Pokemopolis in 10 years?
Which other websites out there are dying or already died? Pokemopolis will forever be doomed because most kids who like Pokemon nowadays go to /r/pokemon or whatever. Little communities no longer have a place in this world. How many small sites with their own unique culture and memes no longer exist, or are dwindling down into nothingness? I have my own fair share of baggage and sites I used to visit in highschool, and I just realized I haven't checked up on any of them in years. I just went over them and realized one of them closed down and I didn't even know.
Fuck time... Fuck huge sites eating up smaller ones (including even 4chan). Fuck everything. I want the old internet back.
>tfw used to be balls deep in the San Andreas RP scene
>tfw all the good communities have dwindled down into nothings
>tfw there are only 2 decent servers on MTA but none of them have the original people
>tfw everyone you used to play with has moved on with their lives
I'm gonna keep this screengrab in my internet folder forever
I hope that at least I would be one guy who'll keep the memory of Pokemopolis alive. Even though I never even heard of this site, I won't let it be completely lost to history.
The homogenization of the internet is nearly complete now. Better embrace it.
Welcome to Web 3.0!
infographs aside, that's a skewed view. There are more websites than ever, but the thing is that the Internet has grown so much since 2008 and the vast (over half) of those new people use facebook, google, and youtube, tumblr and blogger exclusively. The rest of the web is still very alive - it's just niche as it always has been. If you want to find a small, dedicated forum or website you have to actually be interested in the site's topic matter to even find it in the first place.
It's less dead than it's become too plastic.
Professionalized, segregated, and subdivided into many smaller communities that are big enough not to feel personal but too small to reach critical mass.
Just compare The Idiots of Garry's Mod to any modern gmod video. Idiots of Gmod was some bullshit a bunch of guys threw together in a weekend on their public server and then edited in windows movie maker. Modern gmod videos are huge projects that take months, with separate guys doing the filming, editing, sound editing, special effects, etc. There was a pretty impressive resurgence of tf2-themed gmod vids about 3-5 years ago, but that too is pretty dead or professionalized now.
The same shit happened to the building community. Wiremod is a fucking cancer and ruined everything. Gmod hasn't been about building in a LONG time, not it's about being a fucking electrical engineer. I guess it's fine if that's your thing, but I just find it boring and ultimately pointless unless performed on an RP server.
Speaking of RP, I think this is one of the few communities that does survive into 2015. Finding a good comfy server (both DarkRP and more serious shit) isn't too hard, and I've been playing on a cool british server this summer. It really did feel like stepping back into the past, since the server was filled with regulars who joined in every day and did something cool. What I really loved is that most kids there were like 11-17 years old. I made me realize they're in the exact same position I was during my highschool day, and that right now they're developing their own nice gmod memories to get nostalgic about. Except now I am the 20-something adult that every server always seemed to have.
you got to look hard. Lots of smaller /diy/ type sites are out there, from multirotors to 3d printing to hobby rockets, and there are like three or four forums mentioned in /diy/'s /ohm/ general
you also have the forums listed in /g/'s sticky, as well as anything on tor because tor is slow and can't handle anything fancy
for some reason these web1.0 threads make me think of
i was in like middle school or something and i remember digging around for mario fansites all the fucking time.
I think moot leaving gave us a reminder of how much 4chan means to us. In turn we remembered the old days. Maybe it's nostalgia goggles and it's always been like it is now. But either way we all know an era is ending. The moot dynasty will not be forgotten. We were at the front of Internet culture and popularization. It's time to take back the front
>SA is not dead, it is as active as it has been ever since 4chan split from it, it's just not the center of attention of the internet like it was in the early 2000s
Well, there really should be a different term for it then. Like how a "dead language" and an "extinct language" are different things.
SA may not be 'extinct', but it's certainly 'dead'. Just like Newgrounds, Digg and so many more.
Probably those comics they'd make. Me and a bro used to read those all the time after school. I'm surprised that site's still around to be honest.
>tfw the Koopatorivm was utterly destroyed and the admin went on to work at fucking [spoiler]Gearbox[/spoiler]
I certainly remember the flamewar between SA and Fark.
My all-time favorite flamewar ever was that one in early 2006 with SA and YTMND (and to a lesser extent Newgrounds) teaming up against Ebaumsworld.
>tfw the top views for a YTMND site today is just over 2k
>SA is not dead
It kind of is.
There are so few new users that the admins have to rely on banning posters they KNOW will either buy their accounts back or have someone do it for them to keep the site afloat. I think there's been less than 50 new accounts since 2015 started.
Yahtzee recently said he still regularly lurks on SA.
Yahtzee? Remember him?
Yeah, he's still at it. Releasing a new video every week. Every single week. For almost 8 years now.
2 accounts per day isn't THAT bad, anon. For a website as ancient as SA it's safe to assume that an unusually high percentage of those account will become and stay active for a reasonable amount of time.
Video game "reviewer" who got 15 minutes of fame on /v/ around 2007/2008. The shitstorm his Super Smash Bros created has effectively kickstarted his career.
Well, the whole thing that eventually led to the collapse of GBS was the revelation that TV subforum moderator Aatrek raped a child several times about a decade ago, and that he allegedly let it slip to one or more other moderators who did nothing.
>mfw this entire board
I fucking love you, /qa/. Never change. I mean it.
i used to be part of a forum dedicated to the math-band known as "Hella" soon Hella went on a hiatus, released on more album, but then their drummer, Zach Hill formed Death Grips. The forum when down. It was my first forum and they had good discussions about music. I later joined Thruthewalls death grips forum but they shut down too.
It lives on anyway. We use the face they made, so it lives on through us. And if 4chan should ever die, we'd live on in other sites as well, possibly other chans. Half the shit made popular here is already all over.
>you weren't born in the mid-late 70s
>you didn't witness the birth of the internet
>you didn't exchange virus source codes via ancient message boards with hackers from around the world
>you never downloaded a copy of the Anarchist cookbook in the 80s
>you never mastered the art of phreaking to make free low-quality phonecalls with China through a payphone
All we have now are dank memes and social media.
Time to die.
Or simply to look somewhere else. Think about the mainstream people in the 80s, they were thinking " oh shit, i wish i was living in the 60s there was so much going on at this time, oh my god, my life sucks."
Don't be an idiot.
we're the last bastion of Web1.0's ideology. we stand for dank memes, autism, freedumz, porn/traps, and edgy shit; the hugbox that is the rest of the internet has de-evolved and become too sensitive to deal with shit like that. may chanculture prosper forever
>may chanculture prosper forever
It's the beginning of the end, friend. Soon all we'll have are memories. I'll remember you all fondly, even when I'm a very old man. I hope you'll all do the same.
Pretty cool little Pokemon page which recounts much of the old theories and weird websites about gen 1 and the schoolyard rumours about the 'pokegods' and secret pokemon.
A real trip down memory lane for anyone who played gen 1 Pokemon as a kid and frequented all those shitty Pokemon sites in the late nineties.
>I'll remember you all fondly, even when I'm a very old man. I hope you'll all do the same
i'm not gonna forget this place, at least not anytime soon.
I was born then.
I did a lot of these things.
The internet felt like this vast open unknown, it was so much fun.
I really wish I had that sense of wonder back.
attached because "field too long" but i really wanted to share
I hate this whole identity thing. It makes me scared for younger generations. I was an absolute idiot online as a child, but it's okay because I'm not still linked to it. Nowadays you use your real identity - so the shit stays with you forever.
>all these faggot lamenting the "end of le interwebz :("
No dipshits, communities rise and fall, you've just become unaware (or indifferent) of the rising ones. Web 1.0 isn't dying, not by a long shot, it's actually the same size it always was, if not a little bigger. It's just that web 2.0 has grown a lot faster. There are still small and personal communities all around the web, all you need is to look for them and not mop all day on youtube, 4chan, reddit and twitter. Hell, I visit at least 4 every day. Finding these sites is easier than ever, just google "[your interests] forums" and scroll down to the second and third pages.
Yeah, lots of websites shut down, but new ones open up all the fucking time. Stop being such melodramatic idiots.
Guys, I'm not sure how many of you are into chan culture and history, but I've been pretty autistic about it since I've been here for the past 3 years.
If you guys like that kind of stuff, I suggest these sites:
https://encyclopediadramatica.se (already mentioned)
http://tanasinn.info (if you like textboard shit)
There were some others but I can't remember all of them.
>A lot of content migrated over from SA in the early days. In particular, the phrase ”(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)” is not something you see on futaba, but was used (extensively) on SA and added into 4chan's code. The term “banhammer” definitely comes from SA. The phrase kill it with fire! is also from there and was usually in regards to spiders over there, which goons all had a fear of some reason. That and the ocean (yeah, it's dumb). Truncating a sentence like: Oh shi also seems to have it's roots in SA.
>The whole concept of an image macro, if not born there, was at least refined at SA. A lot of macros that are reposted on 4chan to this day are are older than the site itself and completely ripped off from the SA forums. The modern memegenerator content is a whole new “refinement”…
>During the early days, there was a thread on SA which they made demotivational posters. The concept was obviously taken to extremes at 4chan. This may in fact have been 2004-2005, so never mind.
This is some fascinating shit
there was also the original wikichan but that closed down years ago with no archive because of robots.txt
and there there was everything shii knows but that also closed down as well
lukrmore also seems to be down
>lurkmore also seems to be down
Really? I can get to the main page.
And ED has a few archived pages from Wikichan and Etherchan. One of the moderators here (Shii, not sure if he is still here) had a website for stuff like this but it's down now.
the past is the past anon, we should move forward
Well, here at the Bibliotheca Anonoma, we've archived the vast majority of Wikichan's content, and continued their legacy of archiving great stories.
We also archived everything from Everything Shii Knows, since I had an uncanny feeling that he was going to delete it someday. Delete it he did...
You're welcome. Also, check out some stuff we've been working on. Most of all. feel free to grab a github account and edit the wiki as you wish (whenever you see a great story, etc). It's all user contributed content, join the party.
The 4chan Chronicle - The people's history of this amazing website. https://github.com/bibanon/bibanon/wiki/4chan-Chronicle
Here's a timeline of 4chan's history, passed down from anon to anon, from wiki to wiki. I put it on multiple wikis long before the Bibliotheca Anonoma was founded. It looks like Tanasinn was the only one left standing, sadly.
A list showing when each board was added:
You guys are the best. Keep on archiving. I would love to contribute, but I wouldn't know what would constitute as a good story, because I don't want to add just plain shitposting.
You guys are doing God's work.
You'll know good content when you see it. When that day comes, arm yourself with this complete 4chan Thread Archiver, and send it to us:
There are still some boards that are not archived by Archive.moe or other Fuuka archivers. One of them is /b/.
>tfw I used to go to Pokemopolis to read the episode summaries at one point in my life when I had no other way to keep up with the pokemon anime
>it will all be ogre soon
Damnit, does anyone know who is hosting the current Partyvan/Insurgency Wiki? They failed to restore all the wikipages, which I archived in 2011:
Come on. They should know how to use Special:Import in Mediawiki.
For everyone else, if you want to view every single page from the original Insurgency Wiki (as text files), here it is:
Actually, the one 711chan runs is a different fork: http://insurgen.org/index.php/Main_Page
It still doesn't have all the articles, but I sent them a message about how to import the XML backup. Hopefully they'll do something about it.
I think the old internet is still alive, it's just taking a while to spread.
If you look at culture now, it's extremely different than it was in the 90's and 80's. Basically, geeks and nerds run this shit, and the lines between social groups are blurring like crazy.
As an example, I'm currently a senior in high school. I had a chemistry class that was 90% football jocks. In that class, we used computers a lot, so I brought my own personal computer, which ran Linux (specifically Ubuntu, because I don't have time for that Gentoo or Arch shit).
Three of them knew what Linux was. Not only that, but they had a pretty good understanding of what it was about—okay, so they said "that hardcore hacker shit? Dude, that's legit," but the point stands.
People brag about beating video games. Casual shit, but it wasn't long ago that just playing games regularly made you a fucking loser.
Culture is slowly swaying towards our side. The internet right now is trying to be real life, but apps like Yik Yak (totally anonymous twitter) are gaining ground. Soon the normalfags will realize what we've known all along: it's fun to have a separate identity for your online shit. They'll come around.
People like Shii and whoever wrote the world2ch wiki sorta feel like lone historians documenting events that no one else would. Without their documentation, 4chan's early history could be lost to the ages as originalfags dwindle down. In fact, I kinda suspect a lot of the early history is already pretty much lost.
We need to encourage more originalfags (and perhaps moot himself) to write about those dark years of 2000-2005.
>mfw reading through moot's earliest news posts
Apparently 4chan was a den of loli and dickgirls literally from day one
>If you bother to read the rules, you'll see /b/ is meant to be nothing short of a retard bin for now. It will be changed within the week.
>It will be changed within the week
Boy oh boy
I agree with everything in your post, but I think a fear people are having is what rules will start being forced on the internet. With the boogeyman of today being SJW's sucking fun out of everything, people wonder how far things will go. How much will they actually affect in their self proclaimed "actions for justice!". How much fun and creativity will be sucked away by people who don't know how the internet works. By people that treat things online way too seriously.
It seems a lot of folks these days get offended at the drop of a hat, and never learned how to ignore things that don't affect you. Pic related is how things should be.
>go on 2ch
>cant find WTF's and funny shit on front pages anymore
>tfw only got online at the end of the 2000s because poorfag
>tfw i missed it
>tfw i'll never know what the good place of 2015 was (if there is one - i doubt it) until it's been ruined
if i could do but one thing it would be to have gotten online soone.
even 2009 felt better than now, but there's no going back
The most amazing thing about reading through 4chan's early history is just how EASY it apparently was to attract users to your new website. It reads like 4chan had dozens if not hundreds of users in its very first week
Nowadays you open a website and you'd be lucky to get 2-3 pageviews
in fairness 4chan was linked via other communities. you could probably get more now if you posted a site here and we liked it.
i feel terrible that "like" is also a facebook term now, for sharing it in that way, rather than merely a statement of taking pleasure in something.
>Just throwing out an update for the people that actually read the main page. We hit ~9000 unique sessions in six days, with over one million hits! I'm very impressed, I never thought 4chan would get this popular so fast. You have have to remember, it's not like I'm going out of my way advertising left and right, in fact I've only posted the site on two or so boards...
Even with posting your new website everywhere you can, starting up a new community is very very hard nowadays.
got my first own computer at the age of 18
before that I shared it with my brothers/family and they only used it for playing games, school and listen to music
I didnt even know forum existed
I'm not really sure what to make of OP's point
you're mixing the idea that past communities are dying with the idea that small communities can't exist anymore, and I can't make heads or tails of it.
Those two things are mutually exclusive, you can have small communities die all the time and that doesn't imply new ones can't rise.
Maybe it's not on a game forum for something you like in particular, but there are small game forums out there that people post on, and there are smaller versions of popular sites, and smallish community forums dedicated to particular interests.
>those kids faces when all the stupid shit they did back in the day haunts them forever because trash like facefuck uses your real identity
Honestly I feel bad for them.
I really fucking hope so.
Cross-referencing the information posted on Everything Shii Knows, old 4-ch archives and the modern world2ch.org wiki is really fun though. I don't even know why. I'm learning shit about websites long gone, people long lost and shit that would be completely and utterly pointless if it wasn't for its weak connection to the founding of 4chan
I needs to happen though.
I remember when I first started using the internet with america online, using your real iformation for anything was unthinkable.
and that wasn't advice coming from l33t haxors or anything, that was shit you would hear on tv or from your parents. I think there were even jokes about people who were stupid enough to use their real information online.
Unless I'm forgetting something, I think myspace is the thing that single handedly changed all that.
Maybe this generation will grow up to regret it all and teach their kids better online values like it used to be
Found some extremely ancient 4chan wikipages, thanks to the Bibliotheca Anonoma's 4chan Chronicle's Sources section:
I guess since the Wikipedia 4chan article kept getting removed back in 2006, anons spread it everywhere a wiki existed like dandelions.
More stuff here: https://github.com/bibanon/bibanon/wiki/4chan-Chronicle#secondary-sources
Since I'm going to be heavily restructuring the BASC 4chan Chronicle (it's pretty messy, since it grew organically through the efforts of helpful anons)
If you're interested, we are forming a team to rewrite and research a definitive 4chan history book. It will be fun, we will be working in real-time collaboration (Google Doc, IRC, etc.).
The completed textbook will probably be part of Wikibooks, and uploaded to the Stanford Digital Repository, for free public access.
Email me (with a working address) at email@example.com
Shit, even tripcodes are a long-held tradition that came long before 4chan. Makes me wonder where the name "tripcode" even came from
Where? On the stream? I didn't get to listen to it yet.
I'll be completely honest here, I'm an 18 year old who only discovered "the" internet and joined 4chan like 3-4 years ago. Part of the reason why I find this all so interesting is because I was never aware all this history existed. I'd be more than happy to read your stuff, but I really don't know how (and if) I can help contribute
Actually, I might as well form a Google Doc for the BASC 4chan Chronicle Restructuring project.
Let's record everything there is to know about the old 4chan, right now!
No Google Account necessary, logout to become Anonymous. Get in here
I'm new as fuck to imageboards, I only got on three and a half years ago despite being around communities for nearly a decade, but I feel the exact same way. I'm eternally assblasted that I missed the wild west era, but I'm still just glad I got on the ride at all
Why make a document about it? Keep it the way it always was. The people who were around inform those who weren't and pass the knowledge on. It's how it was for me when I first started here. Nobody wants some impersonal document to record everything. That ruins all the appeal of discovery.
If there's one thing I miss about web 1.0 in a practical sense, it's design style. Moot brought this up in his Q&A, and he basically said that the site runs perfectly with this. Even if early sites had ugly color schemes, they had a sense of charm to them and ease of use. I miss that.
A lot of information, probably most, will ultimately be lost that way, and a huge amount already has. There are too many sources of folklore and memoir for it to be feasible; at heart, there is simply far too much content.
"The people who were around" aren't around any more. It's becoming harder and harder to find anyone from 4chan's early days (not to speak of pre-4chan internet culture in general), and there's always the problem of confirming what they actually tell you.
Then remember it. Don't delegate that kind of work to a fucking cold document. Let people discover it for themselves and learn from those who were around. It's worked so far and it's the best way to keep it. Don't ruin the allure with this kind of thing.
There's people back from the old usenet days who are still around and can pass on shit from those communities, so I don't think there's going to be any trouble there. Let it all be passed on naturally as it should be.
Same here. The /qa/ frontpage is under 500 kB even with the Youtube embed and loads pretty damn fast, meanwhile a local news site is 2.5 MB even with my Adblock/Noscript setup, bloats to 3.3 with them off and takes 13 fucking seconds to load and execute all that bloat from a jillion different domains
They are. Been around since 06 myself. Not the early early days, but for most of its history. Yes, it may be hard to keep this knowledge or learn it, but that makes learning it more appealing.
As for confirming it, you just have to trust what they say or talk to multiple sources. Even if you get it wrong, that's how legends were made in the real world. People tell stories and generations pass it on until you get something grand. It's just fine the way it is and has been. Talking to other people doesn't hurt and don't harm the allure of learning things by making it all sit there on one document.
it's not a cold document. This is the very legacy of the people who wrote the words you see.
The 4chan Chronicle and the Complete Timeline is a living piece of history in itself. It was passed down to our organization from Wikichan, and we continue that mission towards the future.
People will die, or simply disappear. Already Edgeworth E. Euler got canned and lost the Chanarchive with him.
Food for thought: many Greek philosophers felt that writing was creepy and inferior to oral culture. True, a poem written on a piece of paper was nothing like a bard singing a glorious song.
However, if their works had not been written down, we would know nothing of this. By erasing the history of a people, their achievements and actions; it is as if they never existed.
But we have people from those days still here. I learned everything I know about 4chan from other 4chan users who had been around. There even used to be newfag introduction threads on /b/ rarely and the older people would inform the newer people about the history when they'd ask questions and such. They happened once in a blue moon, but it's very possible to learn just from talking to others. The very nature of 4chan is ephemeral, so learn what you can from others and preserve it yourself and make sure you pass it on to those who will come after you. Doing what you're doing just makes the learning process not fun and too easy. There's already tons of places like ED and whatnot that preserve the history if people want to see it that bad, but to get the feel of it they just need to learn it the normal way: from those who came before.
As an addendum to this, it helps foster the sense of community. You're learning from others within your community and you know that whatever you pass on is informing the newer people of what happened leading to a newer generation.
It's not just "hey, read all this stuff and you're good to go".
I'm a mad archivist myself.
One day I will probably make a torrent of all my shit if I can ever recover my shitty seagate hard drive that died.
One thing I will never be able to get back, however, is 2002-2006.
Laptop drive clicked itself to death.
The worst part about it, the most heartbreaking thing, it woke me in the night.
I turned it off instantly (laptop had a switch and pull release, none of those faggy hold for 3 seconds shittops today, fuck everything)
I only managed to save around 250MB before the drive completely snuffed it.
I actually cried.
See, I never knew hard drives could die. I was so new to computers. My last computer from 1995, I barely used since I was a kid at the time)
If only I knew. IF ONLY I KNEW.
As I said in another thread, my new hard drive that I was using to back things up on to has started clicking.
I'm fucking done with hard drives. I don't care any more.
Flash and SSDs are cheap enough now. Never buying another hard drive again. Ever. Especially not fucking Seagate. Friends don't let friends buy Seagate. Don't let them tempt you with the cheap price.
Well, this effort is far from "throw a book at a newfag and they're ready".
This is the community story hearing that you are describing, in itself. We're not making a textbook that will be "finished" and shelved away, it is a living document, with discussion and multiple viewpoints from everyone.
This is the journey through history, hearing anons from the past. Just like you would hear from the other links in this thread. From Shii's writing. From WAHA. From Jonnydigital, or such; just 10 years later.
That is the 4chan Chronicle, the same one inherited from per.vyrd. It later became part of the Bibliotheca Anonoma, as you see today, since docx files are not really easy for Google to search in.
>Well, this effort is far from "throw a book at a newfag and they're ready".
That's what it seems like. It's just too impersonal for my taste. Even the writings of Shii and others are on their chan related sites. It's a history kept to our little corner of the net. This is just blasting this all over google. Where's the community? Where's the personal exploration and discovery that made the original years here so satisfying? It's just not there with a Google document.
The google doc is first of all, temporary. Also, it is private and not actually google searchable.
We will be actually working on a wiki, and maybe IRC. The reason I use GDocs a year of testing, I determined that it was the best way to allow 4chan anons to anonymously get in and type freely (edits can be approved or removed)
I used to use Etherpad, but it has no protections. A troll could just blank the document all day.
There's also the yotsuba society, which at one time had a archive of 4chan threads from 2007 to 2014. The co-founfer of the site donated the archives to Stanford university. Just google "yotsuba society archives"
Also, the personal exploration you are thinking of is simply no longer possible without archivists like me, and my predecessors. Those sites are disappearing fast.
Just like Shii's website, which is not in archive.org and is resurrected from my personal backup at the Bibliotheca Anonoma.
even a mainstream site like youtube has changed drastically. people like to point towards google buying it back in 06 as the point where everything instantly collapsed, but i think it was more a more gradual "facebookification" that really ruined the whole user-based aspect cuz you have to use your identity w/ google+, there's ads everywhere (ads used to be a rarity), and every major company has a youtube account.
it's funny how everyone gets hard over web 2.0 and how usergenerated, but really it feels like it just took old media a few years to take over the web.
Yeah, that stuff can get shit on pretty hard by trolls.
There was also that silly project with /int/ and [s4s] that used some site that was sadly too easy to vandalize.
But it did have global undo and redo.
Stypi that was the site. Gone now. https://code.stypi.com/ovlg5hwf
I wish Google never dropped Wave so hard.
I hear Apache has done great things with it since.
Never really used it though since all the communities had died. RIP /g/Wave.
It is on levels as bad as fucking jQuery shit.
You should never go more than 3 layers deep, after that shit becomes so slow.
When they added that faggotry to Gmail, that was the reason it became so much slower.
Fucking Google. Not to mention all the god damn event triggers they pointlessly added. FUCK.
Little rant there. I just seriously hate Google and their college faggotry they have employed over the years. Muh enterprise quality code.
I just blocked the Google API page.
Sure it means you need to type captchas here, but luckily I've only been getting those small words and numbers.
But when I am LOGGED IN, I get those fucking impossible ink blot ones.
WHY?! HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW I AM A REAL PERSON FROM LITERALLY EVERYTHING ON YOUTUBE, GMAIL AND EVERYTHING. FUCK.
Google. Just dicks.
i find google's obsession with profit even more disgusting than microsoft and apple because those two companies are more concerned with using their software/hardware, while google's commercializing the actual content & community of the web and fucking it over in the most terrible ways possible to make a buck.
Yeah. I remember arguing with so many of those egotistical pricks on the Chromium / Chrome discussion forums.
Holy FUCK they are such a massive bunch of cunts. They are worse than all of those manchildren arguing on Wikipedia just now over GG and sex articles.
I think a bunch of them got banned recently though. I never did check back in with that.
One particularly autistic fucktard was so heavily against adding a proper sidebar to Chromium.
Sadly he also had seniority in the project.
So this is why we now have shitty little bubble windows that extensions use, or you get extensions having to inject sidebars in to webpages, which can fuck up so badly depending on the site.
The addition of sidebars was recently re-opened like the past couple weeks or so.
Hopefully now we will finally get one.
Having to use an extension to make sidebar tree-style tabs is annoying.
But I do love Tabs Outliner. Damn it is handy.
And yes, this heavily.
I actually respect Microsoft more than Google now.
I used to be a mad Goog fanboy. Friend recently reminded me of old Gmail chats between us, "I hope Google takes over everything, they are the best".
If only I knew.
Just look at the sheer monopoly Facebook has. They have over a billion users and no competition.
What worries me the most is the voluntary de-anonimization going on. Everyone posts their personal information online, and all that information is being collected and stored. Sooner or later we're going to be seeing some advanced techniques to actually do something with all that data. Big Brother is rising and no one gives a shit.
But perhaps I'm just a retarded anon ranting on an image board.
> anon with the seagate drive
Hey, if you have any classic images or a decent sized collection of good ol' 4chan threads from before Fuuka/Archive.moe/Foolz, I can contact the Stanford Digital Repository to archive it.
They already have a large collection of 2006-2011 4chan threads from the Yotsuba Society, thanks to Curator Henry Lowood:
All I know is, Google needs to be destroyed.
They are cocky, ruthless, disgusting and shit-tier hipster faggots now.
You don't need to look any further than Google Glass.
That is the company in a nutshell.
Sadly they DID take over everything.
Including phones and tablets.
Even though I have an Android tablet (which I am considering ripping out entirely), holy FUCK Android is so shit.
It took all the good parts of Linux and SHIT on it so hard.
The directory structure alone makes me cry.
Even Microsoft forced shitty developers in to only using certain directories since so many of those fucking tubes scattered files all over the place.
I remember some shit programs used to save settings in the "documents and settings" folder. Not IN the actual user account area, here. (called "users" now though)
Also the worst offenders were those that saved straight to the root drive, c:\someShitFuckingGamesSettings.
This is why I sandboxed everything. I didn't even care so much for the security aspects of Sandboxie, the BEST feature was the ability to organise files and even make pretty much anything portable.
Yeah, I was going to download that probably tomorrow.
The main issue is recovering the old Seagate drive. I'll probably either need to go with a specialist, DIY rig, or attempt to find the exact same logic board for it.
this scares the everloving shit out of me. anons on here would dox for lulz on every so often, but i can easily see a future where random individual sand even companies like google will hold your identity hostage and extort pretty much anyone for anything they want.
i just wanted to see what new info i can get about star wars iii when it finally comes out :(
The furthest my internet memory goes to is YouTube in 2006 (about a year after I finally got access to the internet). I watched a lot of parkour videos and stick-figure animations. I also remember the comment section being a LOT more tolerable back then. People were idiots, but it didn't have a "serious" atmosphere.
Kind of wish I had access to the internet in the early 2000s. People make it sound like it was a really fun time.
Will do. Might take a while though since money and poorfag and I've not recovered it since like, 2009 when it failed.
I honestly can't remember, it was an external drive. Would hardly be surprised if it was.
The shitty USB circuit broke.
So I spend forever trying to get the hard drive out of the casing and plug it straight in to PC, used happily for a while, eventually just failed.
Mostly contained a bunch of /a/, /b/ and /v/ stuff. Some /f/ and /gif/. Oh /g/ too.
Also has stuff from 420chan, SovietRussia, mainly /z/ since I missed it from 4chan so much, SR /z/ was fucking glorious, then some faggot uploaded CP to the /cats/ board and SR just couldn't be bothered with the hassle so pulled the plug. Infinite sadness.
SAoVQ as well when the imageboard was alive.
I wrote a script just recently to mass organize files in folders in to extensions groups.
After doing it to a bunch of folders I had scattered over so many drives, I had already filled the JPG folder with like 35k images.
And that isn't even the majority of shit, still many more folders to go.
It isn't perfect though since it cannot move wabanese files because old AHK was a piece of shit and I never bothered learning the new one.
And it doesn't deal with dupes or same-name conflicts yet.
In fact, the script itself is pretty shit since it moves the bulk move commands in AHK instead of me manually looping through every file and moving. I will do that eventually so I can deal with dupes and conflicts, and so I can add progress bar and cancel.
Although I likely won't do dupe shit on this drive.
I'll move everything to a whole new drive and do it there. This drive is old enough. Worry.
Pretty interesting. I look forward to the day when your drive begins to spin again.
In the future, you might want to try this 4chan Thread archiver script. Grabs images, thumbnails, JSON, HTML, a list of all external links, everything.
Funnily enough I was thinking about this earlier.
I had a horribly shit web scraper I made in AHK, mainly to download images from websites with semi predictable file storage.
Broke it though and I never bothered fixing it. It wasn't worth the hassle.
Was going to learn CURL I think it was, but never bothered.
>Sooner or later we're going to be seeing some advanced techniques to actually do something with all that data.
not only that, but like-buttons et al on other sites are watching too.
when you think how much you give to google, the information given to facebook is nothing, though.
Well, if it's one thing you can rely on, it's Wget. I used it to archive Everything Shii Knows, and the ArchiveTeam uses some variation of it in their bots.
This following wget command creates a complete, viewable archive of an entire website and all data on it:
wget -mbc -np "http://aya.shii.org" \
--page-requisites --no-check-certificate --restrict-file-names=nocontrol \
-e robots=off \
--waitretry 5 \
--timeout 60 \
--tries 5 \
--wait 1 \
--user-agent "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/533.20.25 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.4 Safari/533.20.27"
A good idea to bundle in WARC format files as well, for the Internet Archive to import.
wget -mbc -np "http://aya.shii.org" \
--page-requisites --no-check-certificate --restrict-file-names=nocontrol -e robots=off \
--waitretry 5 \
--timeout 60 \
--tries 5 \
--wait 1 \
--user-agent "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/533.20.25 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.4 Safari/533.20.27"
Yep. That's archived from the Yotsuba Society, a major predecessor (though they're looking for a comeback). This is what we are going for with our internet history wiki.
Websites are civilizations at this point, with culture, governments, and warfare. Users spend half their lives there, it affects who they are and what they do.
If someone told you about a site like that on a place like 4chan, then the site would immediately become too flooded to be anything like the old net.
I've been visiting the same tiny community since 2007 or so. It's died a few times, and it no longer serves the purpose it originally did, instead functioning as a glorified IRC channel. But I'll keep going there until the day everyone parts ways, because it's the closest thing I have left to the old days of the internet.
please, the personal info trend is just that, a trend
it probably won't ever go away but a newer thing will take it's place at some point. Already Facebook is rapidly becoming a glorified addressbook for old people as younger types go to whatsapp and vine
I don't mean to say "get with the times", but the whole "I'm going to post all my info on the internet because that's novel and cool!" is rapidly dying
SMBHQ had a Neglected Mario Characters section, but it got screwed up due to lame infighting (on of the admins decided it was fun to troll Sean Kelly). Here's a full explanation of what was going on behind the scenes, as well as a complete archive:
God I miss IRC so bad. I miss hanging out at the old message board I used to frequent. We even had a faux-/b/ thread (although it didn't last long.)
But IRC... I would spend hours and hours chatting with the same people, the idlers, the lurkers, going to "sekrit" rooms. I even met my first bf there. In fact, I made my actual first friends online. I used to hang out with reactionary, boring cunts.
I miss IRC, fuck.
the whole "SJW" thing is a fad that will die as quickly as the christian soccermom thing from the 90s
it's not something I'd worry about, because in the end people will find their own hugboxes to lurk
it just goes to show that if you like a thread, you need to hit ctrl-s and save it, because otherwise it can easily be lost forever. Just look at how /k/ lost all their archives, over three years of threads up in smoke because the archive owner is busy with irl stuff and won't put an a torrent archive. Even as it stands, the collected knowledge of /k/ - the do/k/ument - doesn't even have enough seeders to give a 100% download
moot also creates a new board, /fur/ (Furry), despite his promise never to do so. Although many think it the board is simply an April Fools' Day joke, the board remained the next day, and the board was started to be taken seriously. However, on the morning of April 3rd, everyone who had posted in /fur/ was banned for three months (including /b/tards who posted on /fur/ to denounce furries), following which 4chan was almost rid of furfags.
Moots a fucking legend
Well there's [s4s] for shitposting but I don't think that's what you meant.
I find mchan/b/ moderately enjoyable nowadays, probably because it's relatively low-traffic and gets both serious discussion and funposting.
I like wizchan's /b/ too, even though I'm not a robot. Sort of wish /r9k/ still had it's bot, and more importantly was a blue board. While it means no gore, what kills /b/ for me at least is the endless, nonstop porn. Of course the sheer speed of the board is an issue too, but that's not really something that needs to be fixed imo.
Never forget: The good ol' Information Library.
Archived in it's entirety for public view here: http://info.stylee32.net/
I will probably send it up to the Internet Archive or Stanford Digital Repository, wherever's convenient.
Actually, the do/k/ument torrent file was missing those files from the very beginning. Not to mention that 96% of it is still around, that's pretty darn good for old torrents.
Other /k/ info is constantly being seeded here: https://murdercube.com/
I will be uploading that to the Internet Archive as a permanent home, however.
Megaupload is dead, unfortunately. And InformantB900 is MIA. That's why I'm uploading it for permanent archival at the Internet Archive.
Here's some torrents of the Information Library: https://kickass.so/information-library-complete-t5515137.html
little communities arent being stmaped out there are just many short lived ones.
and it sucks that you only just now are realizing that memes do not make the person who invented them as famous as the meme itself after spending all these years trying your bestest to be a supreme memer.
Thank you so much for this.
God DAMN this board is giving me the feels. I came to 4chan early 2008, read everything on ED to know what I had missed and was just in time to see the rise of Rage Comics and Advice Dog, the two most virulent memes ever to grace the web.
It's crazy but when I think about it our time in the early years of 4chan was really the last stages of the wild west of the internet.
There's something really
melancholy knowing that it can literally never be the same ever again. I feel like I took web 2.0 for granted.
>I also remember the comment section being a LOT more tolerable back then
A thousand times this. From 2010 and even earlier I think, people started being over the top re-fucking-tarded, it hurts. Even a massively reposted troll post, e.g. "how come this video have 10 million views yadda yadda" is taken seriously by a lot of people who actually try to explain and rage over it.
back in the days every one had a personal fucked up place on the web where people come to discuss nonsense bullshit was everywhere no one cared no one was giving a flying fuck about copyrights and filesharing was spreading like wildfire the gov didn't have shit to say about anything that happened on the web i bet clinton was browsing vola at that time i often compare that era to the wide wild west of the internet
but this >>59225 is just a trick to sell you to the multinationals and monitor your ass by the same occasion they want to contain the Internet in small boxes such as well designed and organized profiles where every aspect of your miserable life is put on a specific shelf to make data mining much easier in order to turn that wonderful place once called the internet to a fucking worldwide shopping mall