An anon brought up an interesting point in a thread earlier. Why have blue boards?
If you're on 4chan you obviously don't give a shit about porn or whatever else, seeing as most of us started out on /b/. Nsfw content can be relevant to discussion, and boards that shouldn't have porn can keep that rule enforced.
Or maybe you can't stand the fact that other people simply don't want to look at it all the time. You seem to think not posting NSFW is such a difficult task, that I seriously doubt your opinions on this matter will be taken into consideration. NSFW doesn't scare normalfags away, it attracts them because it's weird and morbidly interesting. Some people come to 4chan for shock value, and your suggestion would only drag /b/'s "culture" all over the website. You, personally, don't lose out on much if you can't post NSFW everywhere because there are plenty of NSFW boards, meanwhile, people that don't want to see it all the time would be the only ones really affected by this change.
You are very selfish person, with little to no self-control.
I'm of the opinion that SFW enforcement ruined /vp/, that and the targeting of fetishists and roleplayers that preceded it, and that /vp/ would probably be better if it were red, but I'm not convinced that blue is a bad thing in all cases. Porn is one of those all-consuming things if you let it get started. What I'd say we could do is introduce another color, maybe green, for "NSFW material only allowed when topic-focused", but that would require the mods to specifically be able to recognize what is and isn't off-topic.
Then why are you reading still reading any posts? Does the sight and smell of manure please you? I'd suggest you leave 4chan if you don't, and not ask for all boards to be NSFW. Go along now, leave 4chan to the dogs, and go to a website more fitting of a such classy person such as yourself.
typical soft science idiot.
I don't think this is a good solution. There's really no point on adding porn to every single board.
I really can't see NSFW content adding meaningful discussion to many boards, and even the ones in which it can it wouldn't be very often.
I think it would cause more harm than good.
/vp/ being red would have been a massive liability.
The vast majority of characters in Pokemon are explicitly underaged (Most are younger than 14) and the rest are animals.
Even when it's drawn, underaged bestiality is a very easy target for legal systems to shit all over. The 4chan servers are in California last I checked, which means they have to deal with Commifornia and US laws, but that stuff existing in such massive quantities could easily drive some activist to get a law changed, and would fuck the dirty foreigners who exist under more restrictive laws where you can go to jail for years if you so much as see a drawn underaged nipple.
>seeing as most of us started out on /b/.
Speak for yourself, retard. I've been coming here for ten years because I like the blue boards.
This change will never happen. Deal with it or get out.
What you're asking for already exists.
The issue isn't nudity, it's porn.
Relevant, tasteful nudity as seen in art, medicine, and history has long been allowed on even the bluest boards. /sci/, /lit/, and now /his/ have always been able to post this kind of content and have it stay up until the thread reaches a natural death.
And likewise porn doesn't have to have nudity.
Something can be NSFW without showing any explicit nipple or genitals.
Mods aren't attacking nudity for the sake of attacking nudity, they're attacking blatant porn for the sake of it derailing any real discussion.
On-topic nudity is and always has been allowed on blue boards, but good luck finding a context that fits those criteria outside of /sci/, /lit/, and /his/.
This is one of the most intelligent, and well-informed posts I've ever seen on 4chan. Finally, someone with an actual understanding of NSFW, nudity, pornography, and where and when it is actually reasonable. It really isn't appropriate in most situations, and when it is, it's obviously very important, and relevant to the topic that is being discussed. I'm so happy that there is someone that can act like an adult when discussing this.
Anime breasts for the sake of anime breasts is juvenile reasoning. You know that they usually add nothing to the setting or story when not in a manga or anime that wouldn't be SFW anyway. It should be allowed in the few cases material shows it in a somewhat intellectual fashion; in a mature way, in official non-porn work. There are few times where even a simple nipple slip is actually justified, and you know it. But this is an 18+ website, so I'm sure you can see the difference between gratuitous nudity or imagery specifically introduced for sexual arousal, and mature and reasonable examples of the uncovering of the body.
It's not that I don't want to look at porn or that I care that someone might see me.
It's that I don't care to have retards spamming their preferred cartoon fetish in everythread.
It's a roundabout way of spamming, trolling and avatarfagging.
Literally kill yourself.
I was going to respond seriously and intelligently and explain why you are wrong but
> It should be allowed in the few cases material shows it in a somewhat intellectual fashion; in a mature way
You clearly have a grave misunderstanding about the site. This isn't a serious site nor is it a site for shitposting, its for having fun with people of similar hobbys. Your 'mature and intellectual' shit get be shoved up your fucking arse you pretentious shit. The blue board system exist for the sole purpose of stopping porn dumping to allow discussion, that's it. There is no other deeper meaning behind it and moot was always vocal about this. Not every board needs to drown in fucking porn. It doesn't even matter if that discussion is fucking pure shitposting and fucking fetish posting, its purpose was to stop porn dumping, that's it. There are other rules in place for the other shit.
NSFW content, however, is not porn and is allowed. It doesn't get in the way at all either. The only nudity allowed on things like /a/ is official content. And that means all fucking official content, not some arbitrary picked shit. For example, illya, despite being a loli, has official content of her fully nude, so you are allowed to post it in fate threads or when it relates to the topic. However, I can still post pic related on every board and not get banned for it as long as it isn't blatant shitposting.
Pull that pretentious annoying stick out of your arse and stop trying to get rid of valid images and discussion points removed that don't flood any board nor distract from anything just being you are a faggot who has massive understandings for the site.
>NSFW content, however, is not porn and is allowed.
You need to stop posting.
No, YOU need to stop posting and lurk the fuck moar.
If I'm not actively masturbating, porn is kinda gross. If I'm actively masturbating, I'll take the grossest porn you've got. Ripping spines out of toblerones and fucking the girl with it. Whatever you got, man.
I like soda with my burger. I don't like dunking my burger into my soda and letting it soak there for ten minutes before eating the pile of sugary goop.
This split in my cognition is properly reflected by 4chan in its current state. I can go to a blue board and have a wonderful time, then when my dicker starts requesting some attention, I can hop over to /e/, or /h/, or /aco/, or /d/, or whatever suits my fancy at the moment. Boards should be different. Some boards should allow porn. Some shouldn't. Some boards should allow games. Some shouldn't. Everything should be able to be categorized and everything should be able to be seperated. There's a reason people don't want hotglue threads on /toy/ and there's a reason you personally don't go to /v/.
Now, something that I would ABSOLUTELY be in favor of is making /ev/ for Eroge and Hentai vidya. If every single blue board had a porn EQUIVALENT, that would be wonderful. The difference between /wsr/ and /r/, or /wsg/ and /gif/ makes both variants wonderful. I don't know what Worksafe /d/ would be, but I'm sure it'd be fantastic.
>If every single blue board had a porn EQUIVALENT
4chan doesn't really need a board for everything, and 4chan isn't a porn website. Such a change would be very drastic. And I'd be very worried about being so welcoming to those that want porn so frequently, and for it to be so abundant. In my experience, many people like that are the worst people I have ever run into on the internet.
I actually am on 4chan at work right now. Is this totally unheard of?
I'm only saying that in my personal experience, most of the people that I've run into that are concerned about having lewd/porn/NSFW readily available, everywhere they go, are unpleasant (and more often than not, undereducated, or ignorant in general). That goes for more than this board, and more than this website as well. I fear for the good of 4chan, and I believe NSFW boards are something that could cause more harm than do good for it.
It really is, dude. Morals are relative. You know, people who are different from you judge you negatively, exactly the way you judge them negatively. The only reason your opinion matters more to you than theirs does is because you agree with your own opinion.
There's more to it than blindly following of what I'm told is morally correct. It's about standards of intelligence, and the quality of posts that those types of users often show. Do you want 4chan to be better? Do you want it to be worth your time? Then maybe the connection between NSFW and inattentive minds should be seen through clear glass. I know 4chan offers more than enough clear glass for all to look through...especially to those that have been here more than a few years. Look at how threads almost always turn when that kind of content is posted and no punishment is dealt. Look at the people that post replies to posts with such content. Look at how people act when they see and discuss it. If you actually want improvement, then the bar needs to be raised higher from where it is now.
I say what I truly believe would make 4chan better for everyone (as expected), and I do listen to other ideas that make some sense. Based off of my personal experiences on and off of the internet over the last 14 years, I see no real reason to add more NSFW boards, or even worse, make all boards NSFW. Something tells me the 4chan staff aren't dumb enough to actually put OP's suggestion into effect anyway. They saw what happened to /gif/ and /r/, so I doubt they want to see it again.
Yeah, I think people who disagree with me are wrong and stupid too.
You can use as many words as you want but all you're really saying is, "A person who disagrees with me is inferior because they disagree with me."
Hell, how do you even know that the people you're talking about really feel the way you say they do? Maybe they want porn to be allowed on all parts of 4chan but don't think porn should be allowed on all parts of other websites they view differently.
Do you think porn should be banned from xvideos? If not, can't you see that "What is 4chan for?" is the question that you have a different answer to than they do?
> They saw what happened to /gif/ and /r/, so I doubt they want to see it again.
So they made /wsg/ and /wsr/. Which is what I'm advocating. A place for everything and everything in it's place. You can keep saying "Don't do what I don't like" though if you want. Sure. You're entitled to that opinion.
>Making new boards is literally becoming reddit.
Yeah yeah, I know. Reddit is just a porn fucking paradise where nobody talks about anything outside of porn. Right.
>websites they view differently.
You see, that's part of the problem. Some people might view 4chan as more of a porn website. Adding it to every board would only solidify and spread that thought. Porn/NSFW content is a part of 4chan, not all of it. It goes on the boards it is actually, fully, relevant on. Organization is an important and basic step when it comes to keeping large amounts of people happy.
>Making new boards is literally becoming reddit.
I never said or implied that. I just said that 4chan doesn't NEED boards for everything people might like. 4chan doesn't need to be a one-stop-shop like Walmart.
>Reddit is just a porn fucking paradise
Why would I say or think that?
>Is this totally unheard of?
Yes, because every single person who has ever done this has been mocked and ridiculed for being a fucking idiot. 4chan has also never been a site made with outside the house in mind. There is no need for it to change for a bunch of faggot mobile posters, who on average make the lowest quality posts on the site, because they are a bunch of fucking idiots who do stupid things.
>4chan has also never been a site made with outside the house in mind
Worksafe boards exist. People want to be able to browse this website on the go. Time to crawl out of your hole, and see that the world doesn't revolve around it.
>4chan has also never been a site made with outside the house in mind.
Time marches, on, and a whole generation of hopeless 4chan addicts finally entered the workforce without ever learning self-control.
Worksafe boards exist only to stop porn dumping, not make them worksafe. 4chan's worksafe is different to the normal usage and that is exactly why it is in quotation marks >>434736 here.
But, none of that fucking matters, because this argument has been had too many times on here and fucking /q/. It's all ended up with your anti-nsfw posters being told to fucking off and stop trying to change the site. Because, you guys make it clear you don't care about the site and just think the 'world revolves around you' so you think it should change to cater to you, fucknugget.
No one cares if you want to browse the site on the go. People want to browse their porn forums and other similar sites on the go as well. Do they? Well it seems people do it with 4chan, so there is apparently people willing enough to take the fucking chance. If you want to do it on the go, you've got to take the consequences, not change the site to cater to a minority. Time to crawl out of your hole and see that the world doesn't revolve around you. 4chan is a community and the community has said everytime this has came up over the years, 'no'.
>If the rules were what that mod says they are, the written rules would be different.
How about the owner of this site? hiro basically said NSFW is fine as long as it isn't excessive or full on porn and is put behind spoilers. This was stickied on /a/ for a month.
Loads of boards have unwritten rules and the allowing nipple images on /a/ was one of them for quite a long time until the whole nipplegate thing and hiro stepped in.
the same type of people who want porn everywhere are the same type of people who are unemployed or working low-level jobs like stock boy or fast food employee.
They don't understand that downtime occurs in many jobs that have you working at a computer. For example, if a company's IT help desk doesn't have anyone calling in to say, "my computer isn't working," chances are, the help desk workers don't have any other real work to do, so they're browsing whatever they'd browse at home to entertain themselves, and their boss isn't going to care because making them sit quietly and do nothing until work pops up isn't going to make them anymore effective
It in quotation marks because it is literally quoting the definition of "worksafe on the 4chan FAQ page. The majority of your posts relating to this matter are long-winded insults. That tells people enough about you.
>Of course, you get banned if you post obviously NSFW images.
If you actually have a job, you should know what's NSFW and what isn't.
It's in quotation marks, because 4chan definition of worksafe is different and applied differently. It's only purpose is to stop porn dumping, nothing else. Discrediting what I say because my posts all roll up into being a giant insult, not only shows your new, but makes you a stupid fucking faggot who is just upset he got told off for being wrong.
There is not a single board drowning in porn nor is there any board drowning in lewd content, even though its allowed. But for reason, you stupid faggots want it removed. Why? Because you're stupid and think the site should change into some gay ass normal discussion site like every other so you can browse it at work, besides the fact the users doing that being in the minority. Please kill yourself.
I'm sorry anon, but I already have a nice well paying job I enjoy. Maybe it's you who needs a new perspective on life to realise that not everything needs to change to cater to your stupid normalfag needs.
I'm not going to believe that from someone who consistently shows less knowledge of what worksafe actually is, and continues to misinterpret the written rules. Enjoy your generals on /a/.
No, you see, I know what worksafe is, but the worksafe applied to 4chan isn't the normal one. The notion you are taking the rules literally and not realizing they are written that way intentionally, not to be taken as 1:1, but to give the mods the right to remove whatever they fucking want is showing your new. Please lurk the fuck moar.
>using the fucking faq
You can't be fucking serious?