/jv/-Japanese Vidya and /wv/-Western Vidya

How about we just delete /v/ so you people don't keep asking for 32 different spinoff boards?

>>433057

That's an option too. After all, a majority of the threads on /v/ can be bundled up in most of the generals.

One more shitposting tool to add to the bag. Coolio.

>>433056
fuck off already
the problem is neither /v/ nor it's mods give a shit about the board

>>433057
Nah, /v/ is a containment board at this point.

The problem with /v/ is that none of its users actually want to talk about videogames at all and just go there to shitpost and make le wacky screencaps.

weeb games and western games just have different breeds of shitposters, but they're both still plagued with shitposters.

I'd bet money you just want a /v/ Japanese vidya because you think it means you can post lewd shit or straight up porn without getting told to fuck off even though it would still be a blue board.

>>433056
I like this but I guess it would end up being worse because you'd have weaboos and westaboos shitposting on each other's boards.

>>433056
>split
You can't fix /v/, just delete it. 4chan is a privilege, not a right.

>>433056
A better split would be /vc/ - Videogame Culture
Contain all of the eceleb, twitter, and other faggots that don't actually want to talk about games

>>433064

Nice strawman on that last line.

Lewd shit doesn't violate the rules associated with blue boards, unless girls in swimsuits and sexy outifts is now considered haram in the US and EU.

Straight up porn would be deleted and/or banned, just like it always has.


Lewd=/porn

>>433070
Lewd posting leads to porn posting.
And lewd pictures have fucking nothing to do with games.
If you want to look at lewd shit, just make a thread on /aco/
What kind of 'videogame discussion' comes from
'o-oh boy, I'd love to stick my tongue in her sweaty bum bum <_<' ooo her cute little feetsies make my peenus weenus stand up."

>>433070
Lewd = NSFW
A girl in a bikini not acting sexually provocative is not lewd or porn, and is SFW in almost all cases. A girl wearing very little while posing in a particularly sexual way is NSFW.

>>433069
That would still leave a substantial amount of shitposting.
Arguably more because there are more people actively monitoring it now.

>>433070
>Worksafe Board
>"EMPLOYEE! WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!"
>"n-no sir its okay, she's wearing a swimsuit! She isn't really 12 either, she's actually a dragon that is 1,000 year old!"

>>433071
>>433072
>>433074

Again, suggestive images still isn't porn and in many cases it's actually on-topic. You don't really have an argument other than your personal believe on what's worksafe and what isn't.

>>433071
>What kind of 'videogame discussion' comes from 'o-oh boy, I'd love to stick my tongue in her sweaty bum bum <_<' ooo her cute little feetsies make my peenus weenus stand up."

Have you considered leaving 4chan and creating a Reddit account? I think that site is more your speed, anon.

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>>433078
Here, show these to your boss tomorrow and see which ones he would let you post in your cubicle

>>433078
An image in which the content is supposed to sexually arouse the viewer, is not safe for work in the United States of America: the country that this website is hosted in, and where most of the users come from. You are wrong.

>>433081
Been on 4chan since 2006

I want to talk about videogames, not literally jack off with a bunch of sweaty faggots while talking about how much I enjoy jerking off to things.
Go to fucking paheal if you want to talk about how hard stupid pictures make you with other horny autists.

>>433087
Who's the young boy? I recognize the rest as Sailor Moon characters but I've never seen him.

>>433087
>cubicle
In any case left would be fine with him.
Right isn't even lewd as much as it is outright R34.

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>>433087

I think you have a skewed sense on what's suggestive and what's porn, anon. The right is clearly porn, anon. Something like this here isn't porn. Do you consider this porn?

>>433091
>I want to talk about videogames, not literally jack off with a bunch of sweaty faggots while talking about how much I enjoy jerking off to things.

Like I said, 4chan isn't for you. You should go to r/gaming and stay there if you feel that strongly about it.

>>433087
Holy shit, that right image.

>>433104
That picture would get you into pretty big trouble in a heart beat in most places of employment.

>>433104
>4chan is just a website for weebs that like to jerk off together

Are you still 14?
Why do you require things you do to involve playing with your dick?
Why can't you just talk about your hobbies without masturbation being involved?

>>433108
He's obviously an addict of some sort. Or he's just trolling.

>>433107
You haven't had much employment or been employed for very long have you.

>>433107

It still isn't porn though.

>>433108

Playful banter has been a part of 4chan since it first appeared on the internet. You'd know that if you were actually here in 2006. What makes you believe that literally everyone in a single thread is literally playing with their dick? If you can't handle a little bants and a smiling anime girl, then 4chan was never for you, bro.

>>433121
There is a difference between tongue in cheek banter and people straight up sharing porn and talking about what gets them off instead of videogames

>>433118
My dad is a business owner. He is successful. I probably know more about what makes a good business from secondhand knowledge than most people on 4chan.

>>433121
Lewd = NSFW
Talking about what gives you a hard on is not allowed in most areas of employment, and on top of that, it makes you look underaged in most cases.

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>>433124
>There is a difference between tongue in cheek banter and people straight up sharing porn and talking about what gets them off instead of videogames

I don't have a problem with banning straight up porn. It doesn't take a genius to determine what's only suggestive and what's porn.

>>433130
>Lewd = NSFW

I think we're getting sidetracked with semantics, anon. Do you think that suggestive pics are considered NSFW in most workplaces? I'm not talking about your Dad's puritanical sweat shop. I mean, hell, its the basis for advertising in a lot of companies.

>>433130
>My dad
Are you "that kid" incarnate or something?
In any case, that's not something that would get you in trouble in the slightest and if it did it would only be something along the lines of
>just put it away when we're expecting some bigwigs, jenkins
Or just a frown for the reason that it's not a real person.
Unless your boss is one of those new age feminists in which case you're going to get fired and get charged with sexual assault.

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>>433135
Disregarding the image quality, anything more than this ad is venturing more towards softcore pornography. Discussions of the image should not be about the desire for sexual relations or activities with them.

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>>433142
>Discussions of the image should not be about the desire for sexual relations or activities with them.

That's par for the course on this site. If you don't approve of such conversations, then 4chan isn't for you.

>>433142
You know that this is more lewd than this >>433104 right?

>>433056
Nah, leaving /v/ as it is and creating /jv/ only is a better idea.

>>433146
>Look mom! I posted a picture of an anime girl flipping him off and told him to go back to reddit!

>>433151

I'd be cool with that.

>>433156

Try not to get too triggered, anon.

>>433146
So now we know you are defending acting like a child. That's all you've accomplished with your post.

>>433147
Torn stockings. Bending over. I'm ignoring the fact that one is 2D and the other is 3D because it's more about how far the sexuality in each image goes. We all know that image is more sexual than the one I posted. Neither are ban-worthy, but in most cases it shows that you would rather speak about masturbation over anything else. Consider going to a different board if you feel the need to post such a thing. Both would be mostly pointless to post on a blue board, because neither not going to attract any meaningful or worksafe discussion.

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>>433157
>triggered
>by the kind of shit edgy tweens from Gaia used to do to seem like internet tough guys

:^)

>>433056
Jesus, that's stupid.
There is barely any hatred between the two worlds on that board. Aside from a meme thread or shitpost once a week, nothing's up.
Is this some /a/ elitism flooding into videogames? If you'd like that, ask if you could make /a/ a space for a jap vidya thread sometimes.
Otherwise, there's nothing else to say about that.

>>433161
>>433161
>So now we know you are defending acting like a child. That's all you've accomplished with your post.

In other words, no fun allowed, right? Only super serious discussion at all times? If that's what you want, then why are you on /v/?

>but in most cases it shows that you would rather speak about masturbation over anything else

It sounds like you're talking about ERP. Talking about what you would to a 2D girl if she was 3D isn't really talking about masturbation. That's more along the lines of sharing a fantasy. What anons decide to do with their dick after reading it is their business.

>>433170
>There is barely any hatred between the two worlds on that board. Aside from a meme thread or shitpost once a week, nothing's up.

Seems to happen a little too often and gets rather heated for a meme.

>>433170
There's a lot of hate on the board between eastern and western works that said I wouldn't say it's the main source of shitposting.
That would come from the Sony fanbase present.

There's nothing but shitposting from them towards either PC users, Nintendo users or Xbox users.

>>433130
My Dad is Donald Trump

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>>433162

But he didn't tell you to go back to plebbit, anon.

Are you from plebbit?

>>433174
>why are you on /v/?
Video games. I enjoy them, and see potential for improvement on /v/. Contrary to all the jokes, many people on /v/ still like video games, and it shows.

That doesn't change the fact that the discussions that are had are derailing, and often leads to people commenting on images about how attractive a girl is to them, and how much they want to perform sexual acts with them. It's not safe for work and unrelated to the board subject at the core of the discussion (the core being sexual desire, and not whatever the board subject is), and would be better on another board where the user would be able to post what they actually want to post. Does the image in question have the intent to sexually arouse the viewer? Does the text you want to post have to do with your sexual arousal? If the answer is yes, just don't post it on a blue board. You can find a better board for it anyway. This keeps everyone at their happiest.

I thought /v/ got somewhat better with mods cracking down on the Reddit spam, guess not

>>433190
>>433190
>That doesn't change the fact that the discussions that are had are derailing, and often leads to people commenting on images about how attractive a girl is to them, and how much they want to perform sexual acts with them. It's not safe for work and unrelated to the board subject at the core of the discussion (the core being sexual desire, and not whatever the board subject is), and would be better on another board where the user would be able to post what they actually want to post.

4chan has always been very liberal about that sort of thing, and contrary to what you believe, posting attractive images and anons professing their fantasies about female characters doesn't always derail a thread into oblivion. Even in the SK threads, people have been known to discuss storylines, character personalities, localization, pricing, collector items, and gameplay. Not everyone is as easily triggered as you are and are capable of having a discussion regardless of what else is being posted in the thread. It sounds like your problem is what 4chan defines as worksafe and what isn't worksafe. That's something you'd want to argue with Hiroyuki, not me.

>>433196
There is only so much that can be done when the userbase lashes out at any and all moderation and starts to ban evade and repost like crazy.

The number of people on /v/ that are only there to shitpost and talk about off topic shit greatly outnumber the people that want to talk about videogames.

>>433204
>There is only so much that can be done when the userbase lashes out at any and all moderation and starts to ban evade and repost like crazy.

Yeah. Keep banning them. It takes mods far less time to ban than it does for a user to evade and repost. The mods will win this war easily if they keep doing their job.

>>433202
>Even in the SK threads
Most of those threads that I've seen on /v/ are practically dumps for softcore porn, and little else. Maybe they should focus on the games more than what activates their privates. What is and isn't worksafe is obvious to those that know better. It's also very easy to know what kinds of images and discussions are of the derailing sort. It's about organization that can make everybody more comfortable once used to it. The main push against it seems to be based almost entirely off of tradition. Traditions that don't actually help the board. What was in the past might just be what makes the present, so unpleasant.

>>433204
Ban-evasion is a huge problem. Why bother thinking much about what you do when there are no lasting punishments? Why make a good post when there is little encouragement? I don't think I'm alone when I say I believe ban-evasion is the single biggest problem on 4chan. Sitting in the corner while watching all the others play is a time for sadness, and then reflection. It's not just to make the person think about what they did wrong, it's also teaching them about _why_ what they did was wrong. What rule did I break? Why is that rule in place? Would breaking that rule disrupt other people and make them upset? Why would it upset them? The rules aren't in place just so someone can have power over you. The rules are in place so everyone can have fun.

>>433220
But isn't that a high workload for the mods? Isn't that the kind of thing they might get tired of, and start to dislike parts of the userbase? I know that moderation is their duty, but wouldn't it be better for them if they didn't have to ban the same guy 6 times a day? And then there's the topic of range-banning. Banning a large area because of one or a few people that are causing so many problems is unfair to anyone else in the banned area.

>>433226
Get more mods then.

>>433226
Are you saying that the poor wiw mods can't handle the excruciating task of hitting the ban button 6 times a day anon?

>>433056
If the weebs on /v/ would fuck off and stop complaining about western games there would be no problem

>>433056
But this would cause a problem
>want to discuss dark souls or MGS
>both games are too western to be considered japanese, but too japanese to be considered western

>>433228
That's one answer. But I imagine the mods that they want on 4chan are of a very particular type. You could always bring more mods in, and they would do a good job, but they also might end up changing the website a little too much. I mean, what if the entire moderation team was replaced, and the new team was actually very, very strict? Even I my standards would allow for fun here. It would just be much more organized.

>>433230
6 times a day is no real problem. But when you have hundreds of users to ban multiple times a day, and the havoc they reap all over the website to deal with in the meantime, it can become repetitive and frustrating. Those (relatively few) users are the very people that do a large portion of the damage here, and then more, less disruptive users follow their example.

>>433226
>Most of those threads that I've seen on /v/ are practically dumps for softcore porn, and little else. Maybe they should focus on the games more than what activates their privates.

None of that changes the face that there's still gameplay footage and discussion being posted in those threads, and at the end of the day, no matter how you feel about it, it's still a video game.

>Ban-evasion is a huge problem. Why bother thinking much about what you do when there are no lasting punishments? Why make a good post when there is little encouragement? I don't think I'm alone when I say I believe ban-evasion is the single biggest problem on 4chan. Sitting in the corner while watching all the others play is a time for sadness, and then reflection. It's not just to make the person think about what they did wrong, it's also teaching them about _why_ what they did was wrong. What rule did I break? Why is that rule in place? Would breaking that rule disrupt other people and make them upset? Why would it upset them? The rules aren't in place just so someone can have power over you. The rules are in place so everyone can have fun.

Realtalk. The stuff you're complaining about is a site wide thing that goes beyond the scope of this thread. I know this might sound like a shitpost, but 4chan really isn't for you, man. If you want serious discussion, then go to /vg/ or another site. What you're looking for is regular forum with user handles and strict moderation, and that's not what 4chan is about.

>>433234
>games are too western to be considered japanese
Faggots like you should have stayed on /v/ anyway. Nobody wants you on /jv/.

>>433234
>japanese game with western inspirations are western
Doesn't work like that.

>>433237
>None of that changes the face that there's still gameplay footage and discussion being posted in those threads, and at the end of the day, no matter how you feel about it, it's still a video game.

Its this kind of thinking that leads people to make threads like
>Post your fetish and favourite videogame!
and then bitch when it gets deleted.

>>433237
It may be about video games, but when the majority of the content is not suited to the board, something should be done. All it takes is a little self-control to not post NSFW images and text like "I would use her boobs as a pillow." This website is 18+ so I'm not in the wrong to want better from the users. I only ask people to act their age, and with a mind of their expected age, on the boards that would benefit from it. You don't see me asking /b/ or /trash/ to act better as they have no subject, so anything goes if it isn't illegal.
>regular forum with user handles
That's where you go completely wrong. I'm such an odd one out that I really have nowhere else to go. I can tell you without a single hint of insecurity, that usernames are not what I desire.

>>433243

The stuff your complaining about is a regular thing on a lot of boards. You've got issues that go beyond some anon's request for a board split.

Just leave 4chan.

I'm not saying that to be mean either, you just seem like you'd be happier somewhere else.

>>433247
>The stuff your complaining about is a regular thing on a lot of boards.
It also gets regularly pruned beause its off-topic shitposting.

I don't need to leave 4chan, I just wish more users would realize that there are more than one board, and if they want to talk about something that isn't anime/videogames/music/cartoons or whatever they can go to a different board for it instead of making a thinly veiled off topic thread and bitching when it gets deleted.

Even porn threads, there is no reason to make poorly disguised porn dumps on /v/ or /co/ when you can just go to /aco/ now and not break any rules.

>>433246
>>433248
>That's where you go completely wrong. I'm such an odd one out that I really have nowhere else to go. I can tell you without a single hint of insecurity, that usernames are not what I desire.
>I don't need to leave 4chan, I just wish more users would realize that there are more than one board, and if they want to talk about something that isn't anime/videogames/music/cartoons or whatever they can go to a different board for it instead of making a thinly veiled off topic thread and bitching when it gets deleted.


People post off-topic, soft-core, and anime reaction images on /fit/ all the time, and /tv/ will sometimes get wrapped up in political debates. It happens, and its interesting to know what other like-minded people think about once in a while. There's just more of it on /v/ because it gets more traffic.

I don't know what else to tell you, anon. You're just going to have to deal with the fact that anons will occasionally post about games, images, and things you don't like and just ignore it.

>>433248
He's willfully ignoring the fact that the rules are in place so EVERYONE (that means everyone) can have a good time.

>>433252
And you simply exclude both people and reasoning because it's just easier that way. NSFW and SFW are easily distinguishable. I ask people to think before they post, and I'm accused of being unreasonable. Change can come, it only takes. I wish something along the lines of "If the intention of the image is to cause sexual arousal, it is NSFW." Would be added to the FAQ under "What does "work safe" mean?" That alone might help some people be able to better distinguish between what they should and shouldn't post. I know, I know people are even less likely to read the FAQ page than the rules, but maybe it would help. The whole deal is a mess, and everyone knows it. I don't know if people ignore it or if they don't understand. Maybe both. All I know is that 4chan is the closest I can get to having a website I want to use, so I will do and say what I believe would improve it as a whole.

>>433266
>And you simply exclude both people and reasoning because it's just easier that way. NSFW and SFW are easily distinguishable. I ask people to think before they post, and I'm accused of being unreasonable. Change can come, it only takes. I wish something along the lines of "If the intention of the image is to cause sexual arousal, it is NSFW." Would be added to the FAQ under "What does "work safe" mean?" That alone might help some people be able to better distinguish between what they should and shouldn't post. I know, I know people are even less likely to read the FAQ page than the rules, but maybe it would help. The whole deal is a mess, and everyone knows it. I don't know if people ignore it or if they don't understand. Maybe both. All I know is that 4chan is the closest I can get to having a website I want to use, so I will do and say what I believe would improve it as a whole.

You might want to consider just posting your own thread on NSFW vs. SFW.

This is something beyond a mere vidya board split.

And yes, I too support the OP's initial request for a western vidya /v/ and a japanese vidya /v/.

The solution is either this or to moderate /v/ more closely. I just wish they'd fucking pick one. If you want /v/ to be a /tv/ tier trash-heap then that's fine, but give the rest of us somewhere to actually discuss video games.

>>433266
>"If the intention of the image is to cause sexual arousal, it is NSFW."

How to kill 4chan in a single day: The post.

There are already 3 video game boards. We don't need anymore.

>>433281
And this is why /vg/ should've never been made. Now the idea of splitting /v/ for good can be easily dismissed with "we already have enuff vidya boards".

>>433281
>3
>/v/
>/vr/
>/vg/
>/vp/

>3

>>433289
3 is a zombie board and /vp/ isn't limited to only vidya.

Nitpick harder next time.

>>433305
Fun fact
/vp/ was created to hold the Black and White hype train. Nothing about the other parts of the franchise.

So can we conclusively say that all the /jv/ bullshit was really just about weebs wanting even more special treatment, in this case a board where they can post anime tits all day long without being bothered? (Because apparently /e/ isn't good enough for them.)

>>433326
Nope, it's more about having a place to discuss video games without shitposting, having lewds is just a natural part of 4chan right now but it doesn't particularly stunt discussion of the actual video game at hand.

That said a /jv/ isn't the correct board to make.

How is /v/ self-moderating and telling weebs to fuck off any different from /a/ self-moderating and telling Naruto or the RBWY manga to fuck off?

In both cases those things are on-topic for the board, it aren't allowed because they bring in undesirables. You need to accept that on /v/ YOU are the undesirable.

>>433334
>That said a /jv/ isn't the correct board to make.
Yes it is, see: >>433335

>>433326
Pretty much, yes. They already whined and cried until they were allowed to post porn on /a/.

Did you know they even have straight up hentai threads, even though there is a Hentai board?

>>433282
Only amongst weebs. Everyone else can see that video games are popular enough to support another board or two.

>>433340
>implying anyone tells weebs to fuck off when weeb and JP games are the most discussed games on the board.

>>433340
No, it isn't. Do you think we need another Anime board for non-moe?

Some things are just unwelcome on this site. Anime video games are one of them. Take it to /a/ or take it to another site, but you can't post it on /v/ because you've been outvoted by the majority.

You are not welcome.

>>433348
fuck off reddit.

>>433279
It might kill all of the discussions that you take part in (on some boards). To me, it would save much of what I enjoy on this website.

>>433334
>Nope, it's more about having a place to discuss video games without shitposting, having lewds is just a natural part of 4chan right now but it doesn't particularly stunt discussion of the actual video game at hand.

Tell that /utg/. In fact, the board you just described is basically /vg/ in a nutshell: You're not allowed to shit on a game in its general, and lewds are allowed, or at least the mods look the other way.

And look where that got them.

>people who want to dissect this place even further
Fuck off back to ribbit to your little subboxes you judas.