Its 2016 now. Last year was probably the worst year 4chan had on record, with more people leaving this site, Redditors and newfags invading in full force, and of course moot stepping down and selling the site to Hiro. The time to finally clean house has now come. We cannot continue to have these moderators, aka moot's buddies run this site. They have shown time and time again they have massive biases against certain boards, they delete things they don't like, and they purposely let boards like /tv/ go to shit because either they or moot didn't like them. The insanity of all this has gotten so bad mods have been leaving up porn threads on /tv/ that always hit the bump limit, /v/ being such a cesspool they're trying to kick any anime game out and move it to /a/, newfags and Redditors shitting up the site because they think that Reddit is for serious posting and 4chan is for shitposting. Mind you most of those Redditors come from r/4chan. And of course newfags who refuse to follow the rules and just run rampant.
But its also another problem when even if you use the report system, there's always a chance the mods will ban you for some stupid fucking reason. They always love to use Global Rule #3 as a convenient excuse when they don't want to explain why they banned someone.
We need a change. Like a massive change in moderation on here. I know /a/ loves their mods and shit, but the rest of the mods on this site either don't give a shit because they hate the board they moderate, or as I have stated before, they carry agendas. Mods like swaglord for example are the reason people despise the moderation team on here, and for good reason when the fucking mods have ruined boards such as /tv/, /v/, /m/, /tg/ and /d/.
The time has come Hiro, I know you said before its hard to find new mods who are good, but god damn it man you need to hire new mods now. Its a new year Hiro. Now is the time you actually try and fix this place up and make it so people stop bitching about shit. I don't care what you have to do now. Either hire new mods without any ties or connections to moot, and make massive stickies on every single board letting people know what IS and ISN'T allowed. This cannot go on anymore. I know this thread is gonna get some shitposts in it, mostly from faggoty newfags or Redditors who don't want or like change. Ignore them Hiro and focus on what matters: Fixing and getting better mods
>newfags are invading and ruining the site
>hire newfag mods
I don't understand this "most of the shitposters are from reddit" myth that some keep perpetuating.
The shitters I see are a lot more hostile and aggressive than what I'd expect the average reddit poster to be like. It's a flavor of asshole that is exclusive to someone who posts on 4chan and only 4chan.
Only because redditors get downvoted when they aren't nice, and even then some subs are still extremely bigoted towards the stereotypical neckbeard (i.e. 4chan's original inhabitants), especially the more meta ones.
On here, they release all of their frustrations and anger, and become openly smug and arrogant.
Another breed of redditors come from r/4chan, so they shit up boards like /r9k/ and /tv/ with 4U and pepe memes.
Newfag mods would actually be a good thing. They would follow the rules without any previous biased ideas about what 4chan culture is.
Moderate according to the rules. That's what matters.
I love how people try to say "Oh well there's a feedback feature go use that". And you know 9/10 times its either a janitor or its a mod saying that. Virtually everyone knows feedback doesn't work on here because the mods don't care to look at it
It's always, ALWAYS a mod. You can tell they use this board because they're the transparently butthurt people who hate the users.
They also desperately want /qa/ deleted like /q/, because they can't stand knowing that we hate them.
And we have good reasons to hate them. Maybe if they, oh I don't know, did their fucking jobs for once maybe we wouldnt hate them so much. But no the faggot mods would rather have a circlejerk in their private IRC room then fix the site.
Better not mention the IRC logs though, they'll ban you for "off topic posting," then a bunch of totally-not-mods-for-real will talk about how the IRC logs are obviously fake because the mods would NEVER say those kinds of things
Even though moot himself admitted they were real
They will ban you for POSTING them. Links and transcripts they will delete all your posts in a thread and ban you on sight. People seem to ignore that the mods do that. If the logs were fake, the mods wouldn't care. But the fact that they delete them shows how butthurt they still are about them. It makes them look bad to the masses.
But this site is just going more and more downhill. /qa/ is turning into garbage and nothing can get discussed anymore because shitposters are trying to ruin the board.
There is nowhere else to talk about issues like this. The mods also clearly seem to fucking hate /qa/ since we criticize them all the time, hence why shitposting and shit threads are never deleted
>They would follow the rules without any previous biased ideas about what 4chan culture is.
yep, that's what newfags do all right
The issue is, it's not just the moderation thats making 4chan decline, it's the users.
Look at all the threads on /qa/. There are some legitimate ones, however there are a ton of shitpost threads as if /qa/ got raided.
Look at /v/. It's not even about discussing games anymore. It's literally fucking shitposting 24/7 that no mods can handle.
The same goes for /tv/, /pol/, /co/, /a/, and some other popular boards.
The problem is once you start banning users, they just come back and shit post harder than before.
4chan isn't some secret club anymore. It never was. Yes the site gets new visits but lets be honest no one reads the fucking rules whether its 4chan, reddit, or other popular websites.
I agree the current mods need to be fired and replaced.
Some police their own boards and ban anyone who disagrees with their views or interest (I'm looking straight at you /co/ mod you fucking Stevens Universe fan piece of shit).
Some mods don't even care about their own boards. They just let the rampant shit posting continue.
Let's just face the fact that 4chan is just going to continually decline, not by moderation, but by the users and visitors who's sole purpose is to shitpost.
If we had better moderation, we could curb the shitposting a bit. So much so the shitposters will get sick of this place and go somewhere else. Also I think /a/ is fine, its the only good board still left along with /jp/ and a few others.
We cannot let this year be worse than 2015, which by far is the worst year on record in 4chan history. The report system needs a massive revamp. You only get two options to pick from: Rule violation and illegal content, that's it. We need to fix that
Threads like this are a massive problem. This is proof that some mods are possibly encouraging people to raid /qa/ because they hate what we say about them. swaglord I think is behind all of this
The thing is, what if the New Mods go down the same path as the old ones? We need non bias mods with no ties with Moot or Hiro that actually understand how their board works and what needs to be done with it.
I agree the report function needs to be reworked.
The problem is that if you allow the users to self moderate, it'll just become angry anons just abusing the report function due to someone disagreeing with their views or reporting threads that don't cater to them.
However I believe self moderation is needed from those who actually want to see 4chan not decline. When was the last time you remember a thread actually being on topic with no derailing or shitposting or trolling in general?
We need Mods who can see all levels of shitposting and do something about it. There are a lot of things that need to be rid of from 4chan, like frog posting as an example that mods can actually take care of.
The mods really don't care. That's a huge red flag for anyone. You won't even see the thread deleted or anyone banned. It'll just fade away when more and more shit post threads pop up in /qa/.
Again it's not just mods, but anonymous as well.
Anon shitposts, Mod bans them/issues a warning, Anon comes back and shitposts even harder out of spite and for fun because they know they are getting reported on. Anon doesn't care about 4chan at all, all they care about is shitposting as much as they can because they know nothing can stop them.
Hell I'd argue that 4chan needs a new fresh restart.
Strict moderation goes against 4chan philosophy though. Anons just need to learn to stop replying to bait and stop taking discussion so seriously. Emotions are contagious, whether good or bad.
>Anons just need to learn to stop replying to bait and stop taking discussion so seriously
So what's the fucking point then in discussing anything on 4chan?
You have some anons discussing in a thread when another anon joins in and immediately off the bat shitposts and posts images to derail the thread. The anons do their best to ignore, report, and continue on with the discussion but that one anon doesn't stop, he just keeps on shitposting for shits and giggles.
Now imagine this, but spread throughout all boards. It's happening right now.
It's that toxic mentality that's destroying the website. Not everyone comes here to banepost, frogpost, shitpost, what did s/he mean by this post, or memepost in general.
I get that some memeposts are part of some board's cultures, but at the same time it's destroying said boards from having a proper discussion.
Then you have anons calling other anons "reddit" because they disagree with their opinions or don't share the same tastes as they do. This is what /tv/ does all day.
The matter of the fact is 4chan needs strict moderation for now.
Stop making science of 4chan. This is my 4th year here, I'm posting almost everyday, but I have never been banned and none of my threads got deleted. Also I have no feeling this place changed over the years. Just enjoy the ride and stop complaining ffs.
There wont be a ton of ad revenue once the mods run everyone off.
The problem is that now they don't have anyone to answer to, and are taking the opportunity to run rampant over the site.
One thing I'd like to see is giving the board's users a chance to create their own ruleset, or at least modify the current one. For example, give /d/'s users the chance to actually say whether or not they want western there, or if they want to ban futa entirely, ban futa in threads explicitly marked "no futa" but allow it elsewhere, or leave it alone, and other board issues.
No you need janitors and mods with experience on the boards they deal with and know when to remove a shit thread by reading it instead of sitting in chat talking about shampoo and waiting for something they don't personally like to hit the report que.
I don't get why you guys are praising /a/ mods. I was there since early 2007 and right now the mods are the ones allowing /a/ to turn into shit. They only delete recommendation threads and threads with obvious shitposting OP's but they don't do anything about newfags, they delete /a/ culture threads, leave meet ups/blog threads up, and allow ban evaders to run around and shitpost. I can't say anything about generals because that's untouchable cancer that will destroy the board is anything is done. The only thing we have is two anons doing self moderation by spamming threads, we don't even have enough oldfags anymore the board is populated by people who came in 2014+. At least nipplemod did something even though he was totally in the wrong.
I'm not overreacting, I'm just telling how it looks from someone who's been here for 9 years. Though the ban evader part might have been overracted as it's only a few of them in certain types of threads. A good way to tell if /a/ is still alright is when "lurk more" is commonly used as a reply to newfags asking simple questions.
>They would follow the rules without any previous biased ideas about what 4chan culture is
Yep, because that's exactly what newfags do, you stupid retard. Also, newfag mods would enforce modern 4chan culture instead of old culture. We need old culture, not fucking meme culture
Mods have been shit as long as OP has been a fag.
>Newfag mods would actually be a good thing
Top lel, this thread is fucking shit.
The small group of individuals that frequently and strongly voice their opinions, constrasting with the silent majority that makes up most of the population base, but rarely give their opinions.
I honestly don't give a flying fuck if I'm a vocal minority; people need to follow the fucking rules of boards. You shouldn't go to a board about a specific topic to talk about things completely unrelated. These unrelated things are posted so much they're "culture" and therefore shouldn't be removed.
But the ones that don't are again either from Reddit or they are underage faggots who don't like following the rules. The only rules these newfags known are is that, in their mind, "Shitposting is what 4chan is"
>Moderate according to the rules. That's what matters.
no, balancing on topic threads with tangent threads is what matters. That and stopping shitposts.
Mods are shit at all of it.
We need a feature where you can give a reason when you report a post.
The original statement is it's own retort, since, without proof backing them up, it's just as easy to say THEY are in the vocal minority.
And according to >>408451 's polls, the majority agree with the "minority", at least concerning /d/, that the mods fucked up.
In b4 false claims of R-RIGGED because there's no real refuting facts.
If any post tells you to go back to 8Gag, tells you the mods are great and it's all the users fault, spams the banana, and tells you the IRC logs are fake, high chances are it's either a mod or a janitor
But why wouldn't they choose a website like reddit or tumblr or 9gag, or gogaia that aren't against the rules to refer to? Why would they advertise a place they dislike? Is it because they're stupid?
Because a lot of oldfags from /b/, /v/, and /pol/ all went to 8Gag after the GamerGate fiasco. The mods hate that place because it stole traffic from the site. That and 8Gag is where the IRC logs got leaked at
What do you want me to say Mr. Moderator? I just explained to you what happened and you still don't want to hear it. I told you why people left and why you seemingly tell people to go to 8Gag.
It was the exact same reason as previously stated. That reason didn't convince me and the same reason, restated, didn't convince me any more. Apparently I can't be convinced by the likes of you. Sorry.
Why would I not want to be convinced of something I thought was true? That doesn't logically follow. I would not believe it to be true, otherwise there'd be no point in convincing me. If I already believed it to be true then I would already be convinced.
One wonders why you spend your time here complaining about staff you hate instead of moving to an alternative imageboard where you can discuss GG to your hearts content, and none of the mods can touch you.
That's certainly what this board SHOULD be, in my opinion.
Complaining about the mods should be legal, so long as you phrase it as a passive aggressive question. "Why are the mods allowed to be bad?" to which we respond, "Because it's their site."
The /int/ mods are out of control
One has a vendetta against me and I cannot get any answers. I was banned once for deleting my own post when a janmy was active to make it look like they did it. I come back after 3 days and I got a month for ban evasion and this happened several times after that until recently I was banned for violating rule 1 with an image of two 17 year old girls making duck faces
There are literally daily threads made by a Russian stalking girls in California that reach the bump limit. I created a thread here that got over 200 replies asking for answers and then the jannies canned it
I am not happy with the current state of moderation
>mod shows up and decides to have fun with the community
You are legitimately the worst users on the site. As in, you are the fucking worse. You guys are the very reason the mods don't do anything anymore, whether that be having fun, making jokes or just in general interacting
>Mods only make jokes to fuck with boards they don't like
Congrats on being a stupid newfag who has been browsing the website for probably less than 3 years!
The mods are ban machines or issue fixing machines, they are apart of the community. But I doubt you'll ever see them like that. Also, regardless of how much of a faggot swaglord is, he is still one of the best mods on the site in that regards. He's not a overly serious fucktard and he fucks around and has fun with the community, like the mods used to.
Hiro should fire all of the current mods and then hire a bunch of Japanese mods who don't speak English very well. It would be perfect. We'd be all, "MODS ARE ABUSING THEIR POWER!" and the moderators would be like "How is mean?"
I'm starting to think having Japanese mods on board would actually be a good thing. I think the mods on 2ch were strict as well, but at least they did their jobs. If these Jap mods can enforce the rules clearly enough, than who cares?
That'll only happen if you manage to prove to the Reddit overlords that r/4chan really is a racist, horrible board that needs to go.
I wish those faggots knew there how much we fucking hate them
I think there should be specific mods for specific boards. The whole universal system is not working, a lot of mods will be nazis on their own boards yet encourage shit posting on the ones they dislike.
Lets not forget there is mods who are bronies, tumblr users and ones who despises anime and other aspects of Jap culture.
Some boards are gone to hell, boards like /v/, /tv/ and /int/ are basically shit posting boards. If someone is not dumping porn they are posting a meme thread where everyone posts their dank meme, rare pepes or feel shit and moving onto the next.
It stopped working a while ago, yet moot kept it because all these mods were his buddies. He should have hired more, but at that point he no longer cared about 4chan and just didn't bother doing it.
>The mods are ban machines or issue fixing machines, they are apart of the community.
They are not a part of the community. That's what makes us different from Something Awful, where mods are attention whoring faggots who build cults around themselves.
>Also, regardless of how much of a faggot swaglord is, he is still one of the best mods on the site in that regards. He's not a overly serious fucktard and he fucks around and has fun with the community
The problem is that he does that in lieu of his job, and actively makes boards worse places for the users with his presence.
>actively makes boards worse places for the users with his presence.
How many reports do you have to rightfully address before it balances out one ebin s4s raid? I'm interested in the current market rate.
Toss in /vp/ to that list. /vp/ has always been shit, but now it's whole new levels of shit because the janitor doesn't check the damn report queue and let's 90% of shitposting stay up.
>They are not a part of the community. That's what makes us different from Something Awful, where mods are attention whoring faggots who build cults around themselves.
They are as much of a part of the community as any other anon, you just don't know when they're posting.
They don't like the user base at all. So they're not a part of the community on here if they hate us. Only reason they moderate is because it gives them power.
Also we know when they post because they post on here for a fact along with the janitors. Anytime you see a post telling you if you don't like how 4chan is run leave, or anything defending the mods and janitors, its either a janitor or a mod
I just want the pedo posters to be banished forever from /tv/. I hate seeing those autistic fuckfaces constantly reposting their threads. Reporting them constantly doesn't deter them and somestimes the mods just vanish for two hours or so.
Except, that's wrong you stupid faggot. On traditional forums and other sites, the mods aren't users nor are the apart of the community. They are figure heads and the leaders, not apart of the community. Mods on 4chan /are/ apart of the community. They aren't figure heads, and the only time we really see them is when someone gets the hammer as either a joke or serious. The mods are known to post on other boards just as much as any other posting anon. That's the difference. The mods are apart of the community, because they don't actively making their presence known and instead just like everyone else, join in with discussion and shitposting anonymously. Other mods aren't apart of community,'s as they are figure head leaders and they only exist to hit people with the hammer, say obey me and control the flow of the site.
>The problem is that he does that in lieu of his job, and actively makes boards worse places for the users with his presence.
You have nothing to say he doesn't do his job and him making boards a worse place is debatable. 4chan isn't srs bsns, anon. Although he is too extreme, he, from what I've seen, only really makes 1 - 3 posts and then everything else is done by everyone else. The actual real problem with swaglord, is exactly that, he's a fucking persona and identity and he needs to be beaten and stripped of it.
>pedo posters to be banished forever from /tv/.
there hasn't been a problem with this since 2012.
with all the actual documented problems happening on /tv/ you are angry about something that is literally nothing.
Well swaglord congrats, you have proven once again not only are you a fucking incompetent mod who lives in a fantasy world where everyone sucks your cock, but that you seemingly don't give a shit about this site at all. All you care about is having a cult of personality surround you. Also you don't cook corn on a grill you fucking idiot.
you mean invisibro? once a shitstain, always a shitstain.
The problem is that they are moderating openly.
It's different on other forums where the mods are also postng like normal users. You never notice that they are moderating at all, it's something that they do silently, without attention-whoring about it.