If I could make one rule change it would be exactly this- banning generals. Chat rooms should never become a part of this or any imageboard. However, I don't know what will happen once they're banned. Shitposters don't just disappear.
>>401414 Because it's a fucking /r/equest board. Why do you need a general on something that you are meant to make a thread, get a answer, let the thread die and get replaced by another? Generals are lite-forum subreddit within a subreddit, they don't belong here, ANYWHERE here. To make it worse, generals are the very meaning of stagnation. Of all the things that shouldn't have stagnation and generals, a request board is something that doesn't need it. You will only kill the board and its better for a board to have 50 threads for the same thing with each of those threads being different on the inside with different people then 50 generals that never change and always have the same people and content. A general on a request board will constantly be the same people answering questions, the same people asking questions and living off that spoonfeeding and a rare occurrence of a new member who gets scared away for not being apart of the general
It doesn't belong and will only make the board fucking pointless. If you are sick of saying the same things constantly, stop answering stupid questions. and take a break If you think your resources are good, get the mod to put them into the sticky
>>401455 I think you misunderstood me because of your poor English skills. Telling you that you have an unkind disposition is not namecalling. It is "insulting" sure, but it's not namecalling. Namecalling means something else.
I hope that clears things up for you. If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.
This is the indictment of generals that we've needed for a long time.
This is balkanization. The boards each want to form their own sub-boards, and if you're on that board and make and on-topic thread, the only replies you'll get are "GO BACK TO [GENERAL]." That's absolutely NOT what this website should try to be. Moot made a fuckin' TEDTALK about it, though he looked like an awkward skeleton Ellen Ripley in the process. Ephemerality is key to all of this. Generals are a stopgap. Generals forestall that ephemerality. Archives and 4chan's own Archive also impede this.
Generals are little boards within the board. Okay, we've got 4chan, right? And on that WEBSITE there are a multitude of BOARDS. Sounds good, there are more than enough boards; I mean, look at this, anime THROUGH TO wrestling?! Who would've thought we could run that gamut! No need to sign up? No need to put in a name or email address? You can just come in and start talking? This is perfect. I'll go to [BOARD OF TOPIC] and make a thread!
What's this?! The only reply I got told me I have to join a... thread already in progress? Damn, this thread is 557 replies and backlinks to a previous thread that ALSO had 678 replies! Man, I don't want to just jump into that, look at how many hot-shot big-names are posting here! And they've all got names and special little codes that prove they are who they say they are? And gosh, it almost looks like they get avatars too! And they're roleplaying! On a board about cooking?! I'm just going to opt out of this faggotry.
Generals have literally stopped 4chan in its tracks. They have turned this from a collection of IMAGE BOARDS into a series of forums, each with its own subset of boards. The kind you think of where people get little karma points and their posts have signatures.
Threads lasting more than a day (at most) is where this problem started.
There's not much you can do about legions of extremely lonely people who are desperate to belong to something; anything.
Besides the obvious matter of the large population size now, I really think that in the old days, there were less of these circlejerks because people on the net were better socialized IRL. You couldn't sit on the internet constantly - there just wasn't enough to do. So you went outside and played with the neighbourhood kids.
The kind of fucktard who hangs out in these general hugboxes I suspect never went out and played with the neighborhood kids. They never had sleepovers at their friends house. They didn't get up to mischief IRL with other teenagers. So they have a huge gaping hole for companionship and see no shame in engaging in such artificial socialization to make up for it.
It's obviously not satisfying, emotionally. Because they keep having to do it. Generally I think this kind of unhealthy pathology should be pushed out. But frankly, there's so many of these twerps and they're so noisy, they've managed to drown out any objections to their activities. There is no longer a social taboo against circlejerking on 4chan.
>>401474 You're assuming that because they had friends in the past they wouldn't be a problem now, but people change, move to study/work, especially after the recession.
Circlejerking exists on both socially acceptable social networks and darkest corners of the internet.
Generals replaced the tripcode as main circlejerking method, because most boards became hostile towards tripfags and their attention whoring, creating /vg/ only strenghtned the transition as outsiders found le funny games subforum.
>>401551 >People outside the general don't want to talk about that subject and people inside the general want to talk a particular way. Stop talking out of your ass. Just because someone doesn't use a general doesn't mean they don't want to talk about the topic. What do you mean 'talk a particular way'? Do you mean rping, shitposting, circlejerking and general faggotry? People wanting to talk a particular way doesn't change the fact its shitting up a board. People like to talk in the particular manner of ironic shitposting, but getting caught doing that and you get treated like shit because it shits the place up, just like generalfaggotry does
>>401566 The mod post is from the current dark area in the archives, moron. There is even people linking to it if it feeds your desire for source https://desustorage.org/_/search/text/111574354/
>>401633 Calling something a meme at this point is nothing but a meme. It basically means "things I don't like".
Calling people redditors is ironic when you are doing redditor type shit and deciding to go with 'ignore things you dont like' instead of trying to fix something that's a legitimate problem for the site as a whole. Ignore things you don't like applies to shitposting, bait, trolls and fucking topics you don't like, not problems
>>401641 >not problems Yes friendo, if it's on-topic and if it doesn't break any rules, then it's not a problem. Nowadays, neo-subhumans such as yourself will lose their mind whenever they see a thread remade twice in a row because it's a "general".
Keep on memeing. I really like your witty opener straight outta reddit.
>>401644 >its it 'ontopic', it doesnt break rules it should be allowed it doesnt matter how low quality it is or how much it shits up the board or pisses off the boards users it should be allowed Wew lad, kill yourself. I was going to give a reply but >neo-subhumans You are just going to throw memes and shitposting at me instead because you are in denial about your generals being garbage
Generals are not cancer. They are a way of containing topics according to subject matter.
/a/ has had generals for ages but never really called them that. It was /v/ who started losing their shit about League of Legends General and Katawa Shoujo General because everyone on /v/ reads it like a daily newspaper instead of using the catalog to find a topic relevant to them.
Now we have two major video game boards, and /vg/ is easily the best of the two and contains the most actual video game discussion. Is this as big surprise?
/a/ by comparison will have a single recurring thread for every airing show. We don't call these "generals," but we will typically get annoyed if people are spamming the board with new topics for shows when there's already a thread for them. Jojo General is shit. SnK General is shit. So instead of bitching about it, we don't go in those threads.
>>401673 What? Generals on /a/ have been a huge issue since forever, did you forget what happened in 2011? The problems here are the lack of effort on the moderation staff side and /a/ being smaller than /v/ (thus making the idea of /ag/ impossible).
Meanwhile, let me make another Yuru Yuri General, even if there's absolutely nothing to talk about I need my comfy threads.
>>401673 >/a/ by comparison will have a single recurring thread for every airing show. We don't call these "generals," The minority who have been on /a/ long enough to remember it before it was nothing but a chat lobby, certainly call out these cancerous generals.
You are part of the reason why we can't have nice thing.
>>401751 That's why /a/ is so shit. The majority of /a/ are also the group responsible for turning 4chan from something creative and fun to unwind in to something stilted, angry, aggressive and autistic. If the zerg rush in 2007 didn't do the job it was the later wave in 2009 that did it.
>>401625 If EVERYBODY in the general is ironic shitposting then YOU'RE the one who isn't fitting in by NOT ironic shitposting you dense crybaby. The entire general is filled with faggotry and you're in there not being a faggot. You're acting like not-a-faggot in a faggot thread. Why aren't you being a faggot? The thread is about being a faggot. You're the one who isn't fitting in. Lurk moar and act more like a faggot. You need to learn to fit in.
>>401673 There is no reason to contain subjects. Again, it's better to have 50 threads for the same topic, but with them all having creatives OPs and as a result each one is different on the inside, then 50 fucking generals which all have a static topic and never change and every general is no fucking different to each other. Also, generals might 'contain' a topic, but they fucking breed stupidity, tripfags and shit and then that spreads across the board
No one fucking cares about seasonal show threads, with the exception of certain ones. /a/ has had generals for a long time, but fucking a good portion of anons threw fits about them in the inception as well. /a/nons have always thrown big fits over them because they don't belong and have already been banned once. But, then the mods got fucking lazy again and they came back. There is no reason for a general of a thread that isn't fucking airing, nor is it ever needed to have a thread for anything 24/7
>/vg/ >good /vg/ is one of the shittest boards on the website, buts its a different type of shit. 4chan isn't a chatroom
>>402165 >it's better to have 50 threads for the same topic Not really. Boards only have 150 threads and niche topics (aka, threads without a "creative OP", aka memetic OP, aka shitposting OP) will suffer from this. Nobody wants a superfast memeboard where the only way for a thread to survive is to include a strong reply bait in the OP.
>>402176 4chan did quite fucking well with that without everything turning into bait and memefests because generals came around, anon. The reason /v/ is the way it is with only bait threads getting replys is because the userbase is newfags who don't know what bait fucking is and think fishposting isn't shitpostong. /a/ won't suffer from that and the removal of generals will help fix the amount of garbage on the board
>>402263 Pushing blame onto the anon was the argument. The anon accused all generals of coming from newfags or whatever, distancing themself from "them" and thereby not needing to acknowledge the simple truth that if everybody's doing it and you don't like it, then you're the one that doesn't fit in, not everybody else.
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