American soldiers crying and saying "PLEASE LORD" while under mortar attack
British soldiers under mortar fire laughing and joking
Can /pol/ explain this discrepancy ? Why are US soldiers such cowards ?
Firstly britfag, have you ever been under a mortar attack?
Secondly, why shitpost and divide us white people? Do you want the white race to die?
Finally, are you organized and/or actually fighting for a white, better Europe? I am organized, so get of your ass and do something with your life instead of shitposting.
>British soldiers under mortar fire laughing and joking
Living in the muslim UK is basically same as living in middle-east. The cuck brits are so desensitize to muslim violence.
because outliers on either side of the argument
Has nothing to do with nationality, we are both equally pampered but the Americans in the video are probably pogs or fresh recruits while the Brits are probably Vets
Haha that's pretty funny, except the tides are changing and we will cleanse Europa of the arabs/muslims and jews!
The british cuck soldiers are thinking: "oh well, atleast its safer than the streets of london to a white man".
>except the tides are changing and we will cleanse Europa of the arabs/muslims and jews!
Hopefully, its about time! Im ready, armed and willing.
i cant even lie i'm ashamed. Mother fucker some spic gang members started a gang war infront of my house once and my sisters entered warmode, fucking bitches acted more manly then those soldiers
Because in America we falsely believe military service is a right of passage to manhood. So cowards join all the time with the hopes of "boot camp wasnt what it used to be, they cant hit me anymore" and "a global war wont happen again, so this will be a nice way to get my camaro"
Check out the cherry picking, its like you guys like to pick out some greenies who just showed up against people who have probably been there for awhile.
US Marines and British SAS fighting together
US Marines having RPG-7s shot overhead and exploding above them
Well we must either kill them (harder option) or deport them (easiest option) or the third option which is the very european way of doing things - DEUS VULT THE SHIT OUT OF THIS FILTH!
ex British soldiers I talked to liked the Americans, the yanks would fly in Pizza Hut or whatever, the Brits were always "borrowing" American kit.
The one thing the Americans liked from the Brits was the webbing & pouch stuff.
As for being calm under fire, bear in mind the UK has a class system, working class soldiers are firmly in the "grateful for what we're given" mentality. If you're more long term focused with middle class aspirations, you're more concerned about getting killed. Many British soldiers end up being heavy drinkers and not progressing in life.
Agreed, all white brothers and sisters must unite under one banner!
Btw, strayamate, does anyone in Australia live in the middle of your country or is it just dead desert lands?
And how christian are australians?
Shit he is not shitposting, strayamate is just confirming what needs to be done waffelbro!
Of course brother and more and more whites need to realize this.
Nah not that many live in the middle it is too hot. majority of our population lives on the coast. Not massively, but Christianity is defiantly the biggest religion here. For example of my close mates (about 6 guys) only one fo them is religious and he is Greek orthodox.
Ok thanks for the information!
Do Australia have any nationalist party? I saw someguys doing a demo once, do they have a political party? One of them had short red hair and was dressed in a brown shirt, talking about your countrys heritage and history!
This has always been the case with American troops.
They are too used to war from the movies and video games, and don't understand what combat is really about.
After a few years they harden up, but every other nation's fresh recruits who just hit the battlefield have never acted like this, particularly the UK and Australia,.
I believe so yes, but in Australia we have only two parties that make it into power, the Labor party (left wing) and Liberal party (right wing).
Australians don't give a fuck about any of this shit but, we are a very blue pilled nation.
Because the us army is a welfare employment program. Because they care more about female army rangers and faggots being able to serve openly than discipline and quality of training.
America is a has been piece of shit resting on past laurels. Like a fat, overweight, blind boxer who still talks about being a champion
Maybe because most US soldiers are just kids that are going to the army for the money, while in Britain they are professional soldiers.
It's like our army, we have a militia, which means that we are full of idiots that would piss their pants and cry for mommy if war happened.
Sorry to hear that you guys are bluepilled, not all of you but even tough some people are stupid you should try to talk to them, speaking the truth!
Godspeed brother, keep safe and good luck living a happy white life building up a family and defending our race!
British troops join to fight and defend the Crown.
American troops enlist for glory and to make their family proud.
Most American troops shouldn't even be there in the first place. They're all children that have aspirations beyond war, and after they finish their duty they will typically go onto university and be someone.
British troops are the opposite. After their duty, they head to the pub with their mates and piss away their pension.
It's pretty much the reason why American troops in WW2 were largely inefficient, particuarly in the pacific. MacArthur would always put Australian troops on the front lines, and American troops on reserve. It wasn't because the Americans were bad, it's because they were scared and would rout the moment anything larger than a pellet gun encroached on their position.
>British troops join to fight and defend the Crown.
No they don't
Most British soldiers are from Northeast England or Scotland, they don't care about what the Queen has for breakfast in Windsor
They're from economically deprived areas and they sign up to make a living
Does this surprise you OP?
Despite what you read or hear or what Hollywood tells you, Americans are quite cowardly.
Having served alongside them in Afghanistan, there are marked differences between British and American soldiers.
American soldiers once motivated aren't as bad as any other but they do have a 'Rambo complex' that exists until they meet hostile fire.
Americans think the Brits are too laid back and casual and don't really understand this attitude, even in the mess - Brits eat and chat but Americans eat as much as they can and seem to think it's just a refueling exercise.
I'm not saying that any countries forces are better than others but there are profound differences.
All these non combat vets talking shit like they know what it is.
I would chalk up a lot of it to MOS/specialty and time in theater.
The first time I got mortared it was scary, the last? 2nd to last day in country and I was getting my hair cut; flip barber ran to the bunkers and I was so 'eh whatever' I just kept reading my maxim and didn't get up out of the chair. Only time, once I got used to it, that was legitimately pucker inspiring was when I was out on patrol and we got bracketed. That's scary because you know that there's several people trying to kill you and they're reasonably well trained.
>Despite what you read or hear or what Hollywood tells you, Americans are quite cowardly.
Comparing a working class lad from Sunderland to an American of a more comfortable upbringing is not straightforward.
Brits are the toughest, most skilled fighters
Yanks just have money, big weapons and tons and tons of support
if the UK had americas money we would dominate the world
Because it is against US strategic interests for a better Europe. The US intervention in the Middle East and destabilising of the region was planned by think groups who definitely concluded that millions upon millions would flee to Europe. They decided that that would be advantageous to them as a secondary purpose.
It's nothing to do with where they are from but Americans are far more emotionally involved like in OPs video (but usually not as bad) Brits tend to be more pragmatic and trained to take these encounters as part of the process.
Like I said i am not going to get into a silly 'Brit Army is better than Yank Army' but we have a different approach - even an American soldier will tell you that!
>Brits living on a different continent decided to fight for economic independence
>Subsequently let in the great unwashed of Europe
You were us once, now you're different. Too much Swedish, German and Italian in you to be war heroes now.
Hahahahaha holy shit. This is fucking hilarious.
>that lava monster
"We want the World of Warcraft audience" - US Marines
>American Air support
Or maybe it is an old recruitment ad from 1998 when the US military was not involved in any real conflict at the time.
These days Marine recruitment ads are a circlejerk about being "THE FEW, THE PROUD, THUH MAHREENS"
WHAT THE FUCK AMREICA
I live near 5 military bases and this is pretty spot on,
most of the americans that join the military are fresh out of highschool that have little to no skill
but need or want money to start up their life
all while making family mom and dad proud and happy.
(I live in DC/Maryland)
here are some links that our governmnet declassificed that support your statment-sh
All we honestly want is to bring freedom to your country [spoiler]and that fucking black oil[/spoiler]
With all due respect burgerbro, they both still sound like a trailer for Starship Troopers.
Yeah thats the cost of maintaining a large volunteer army.. The overall troop quality is lower.
Also many of us are so annoyed with the current state of US politics, we wouldn't join, so they miss out on some good people that way. Its no accident Ron Paul was in the military, yet Rand Paul was not, despite both being patriots.
Time in theater / experience in general leads to very different reactions. One of my instructors was telling me that by the end of his first tour he was so indifferent about dying that when his platoon found an IED he just walked over and picked it up. No fucks given, though he says in hindsight that was probably one of the stupidest things he could've done.
Royal marines = Hardest basic training of any unit on earth.
British infantry soldier = longest basic training in the world.
In my view our soldiers are the best trained.
Our armed forces is the only thing i can be proud of in this country anymore.
Don't lie though, you know you would like to know more.
Its to reach a different group i suppose, one targets kids from high school and either tells them they can be heroes or as the Army does "you get to get skills for civilian life" or "We are a team and we are ARMY STRONG" while you guys go for a more career military vibe.
I'm pretty sure the only reason why Britbongs don't give a shit about anything any more is they watched not only one of the greatest colonial empires of the world crumble into dust after the Bongs had control of a good deal of the planet, but they're watching their heartland slowly collapsing into a Muslim dominated Caliphate.
What surprises me more is they shit talk the USMC when they have Cockneys (Essentially British Niggers) who won't even kick Achmed's ass for smacking the wimbly dimbly happy hour out of his mitts.
Don't let the media jew you
It's crunch time
Jews are going all out to stop Trump and 1776 waking up again
FIGHT for your nation and future
FUCK the NWO
Any time an Ameriturd brings up colonialism, every British person on Earth rests his face in his hands in embarrassment.
they tried to put a woman through the basic training and she failed something like 7 times and then they basically lowered the standards to say she passed, (it was just a test to see if women were cut out for it)but from what i'm aware of there will be no women on the front lines with the british infantry and most certainly not the royal marines.
They don't intend on lowering the standards so even if they let women join they would never pass the physical.
>"excuse my language"
i love being british
>the lack of american responses to this post
So Britain still has much progress to make aye :)?
Seriously though I hope you guys hold strong. Obama is opening the flood gates as fast as he can. Soon the military will just become an adult boy/girl scouts with liberal propaganda training and free shit.
i think americans in general are more fearful than other people. We are the sheltered gated community "cool rich kid'' of the world.
>Implying the British Empire at one point wasn't one of the strongest
Had we legitimately not jewed them by getting the help of the Hessians and French we'd still be part of the Kingdom, and Mexico, and a little bit of France.
But it's all in the past now.
same faging i know but double dubs confirm.
That is how they recruit. I don't get it. The marines want lanklets and lard asses with a decent education to dumb them down and physically turn them to the polar opposite. It's part of the marketing and propaganda behind the corp in my opinion.
Coming from a Britcuck I find your bait lacking.
Also where did you serve?
The only reason you won was because the French attacked our sugar plantations in the Caribbean and we decided that was more important than the colonies in America.
You are literally worth less than sugar.
I think this is mainly upbrining. The Brits still have the stiff upper lip mentality, it seems to carry through in how they deal with life. Hardship is something to be endured with a smile and a joke. Yanks seem to be far more emotional, they get pumped up easy when they're winning but don't deal so well when shit goes south.
I think it come from the America always wins attitude. They've never been tought they can lose.
They want to avoid scaring prospective recruit's mothers, and making it real and gritty wakes people up to what the military is really supposed to be about.
Instead they try to make it look like some nationalistic form of green peace or salvation army, or "the worlds police" etc.
They dont want to put forth the attitude of the US military being in the business of killing people.
>An entire colony system founded on a business venture from 1609
>When America turned around and had been one of the greatest countries on the planet before the niggers fucked it up by getting freedom and the right to vote
This. So many people who have absolutely no business joining the military do it because they grew up with insecurities; maybe they were bullied or have always been skeletons or fat, whatever the case. These people join the military (usually as some pencil pushing POG) thinking that somehow this will magically turn them into pussy magnet alphas.
HOLY FUCK MY SIDES
EXPLAIN YOURSELVES AMERICA
i doubt that very much, people from our countries like to banter about our armed forces but we're both highly professional and allowing women in crucial roles on the frontline would be adding unnecessary risk.
if you're trying to say the US marines training is harder than the Elite Royal marine commandos because they shout at you.. then i don't know what to tell you mate.
>Yanks seem to be far more emotional, they get pumped up easy when they're winning but don't deal so well when shit goes south.
I've experienced this first hand playing video games with Yanks.
The moment the team starts losing, everyone starts blaming each other and getting emotional.
When they're winning everyone's happy and friends.
That's because our military advertisements are targeting high-school kids who just turned 18 and have no direction in life, but want to feel like they are standing for something important. The goal is to get as many people to sign recruitment contracts as possible and 17-18 year old kids are vulnerable to this kind of marketing.
It looks like the British advertisements are trying to appeal only to badasses and filter out the non-badasses.
>Implying you don't want to fight a fucking lava monster.
Imagine the bragging rights.
>Oh you have a confirmed hand to hand kill against a Taliban fighter? That's cool. I killed a 40 foot tall lava monster with a sword.
I think we need to deport, ban muslims and BUILD WALL. We need to learn from Trump the Great.
You're wrong OP, there are some very clear and distinct Americans in the second one that are flipping out.
To be fair, you would have to do the same if the US weren't subsidizing defence for the whole EU. We need a large military not necessary an elite one to fill that role of European protector. Since we do that, the UK can focus on having a smaller, higher quality, force with a greater density of specialized troops. We already have most of the cannon fodder, and "police men".
I feel bad for Ukraine, though at least it was Russians not Arabs who took Crimea. We should have let them have nukes or expanded our nuclear defense armament in the area, instead we did neither to appease Russia and have nothing to show for it.
how can you compare comandos to basic marines and soldiers? and yes I am Ive helped train roysl marines at FT IrWin NTC before they headed out to afghanistan and just like a majority of the U.S. soldiers and marines they where lazy and complained alot
what film is the gif from in OP-post?
here is a rare pepe for you
>Polish Army commercial
>TFW Slavs convince you to sign up with their military better than your ancestor's homeland and your own country
>generalizing the entire military based on 1 person
This thread is fucking stupid. How can you blame a bunch of young men who've seen and heard about soldiers getting their legs blown off, rarely see their enemy yet live in constant fear, and often come home shell-shocked for being afraid. It's not a big game
no no no, i think you're misunderstanding.. Royal marines are ELITE.
>Ukrainian armed forces commercial
>Be a teenager
>See this commerical
>Walked past Marine office
>Turns our the Army was just a bunch of misfits that saw the marine commercial and weren't allowed in...
>we are here to protect freedom
WHEN YOU WANT IT DONE RIGHT YOU CALL THE PROFESSIONALS
Well no shit, the Marines hold themselves to a higher standard than the Army. In the Army you're basically worthless and liable to die even more than somebody in the USMC because those idiots fucking set up camp in population centers in Iraq/Afghanistan and let themselves get accustomed to noises that would otherwise put other branches on alert.
Most Americans new to the army are from more comfortable surroundings than a working class lad from Glasgow/Newcastle.
On top of that the US military is better funded, so Afghanistan is more of culture shock, going from AAA+ training facilities to reghead central is more of a culture shock.
Then as I said, there's the class system factor, plus other things. A fairer comparison might be the US Marines vs the British Army.
Anyway regardless, generally speaking are Americans viewed as cowards? If anything, the typical Spaniard/Austrian/whatever would say Americans speak their mind, are rightwing and love guns, is this cowardly?
If the United States f.e. has a standard of living and duty of care *far beyond* Russia or China, is it understandable that newbie soldiers act differently compared to Oleg Slavkov who killed his pet dog because he lacked money for food.
You may be asking yourselves, Britcucks, how we promptly destroyed that enemy mortar position in OP's related video;
or how we easily desecrated your terrible and amateur rulership of us during the 18th century.
It's because you. don't. win. at all.
you never have. you never will. ever again.
Well if you look at the American version you can tell they are green zone pogs. The Pommys in the 2nd vid are grunts. Pogs and grunts two totally different animals. That's the real difference nut US vs UK.
>"With one simple mission..."
>Protect our families?
>mfw le amerifats can't handle the bantz
>mfw le amerifats are triggered
What the hell did OP expect?
This is like having two kids competing against each other but one is rich and got by with fancy shit and the other was less well off and forced to win by his strength and discipline alone.
America gets blasted with movie after movie of USA #1 and glorifying the soldier life that many kids join the army because of fucking Call of Duty. They get basic training and some of the best gear science and engineering has to offer and are shipped off overseas and get mind broken under duress.
Poortugal sees this shit and trains their commando special forces by not teaching them how to work fancy gadgets but to have an unshakable will and unbreakable mind. People died during training to make them self actualized soldiers and not cannon fodder. Heck, a few years back a recruit got stabbed during training.
marines are faggots literaly they re the broed out branch of the military. yes the army does have alot of dumb fucks but plays a larger role and has more recruits. every marine i talk to in a personal setting says that they perpetually make sfit harder and do stupid shit all the time. so they may have higher standards for the recruits but they unscrew the lid and remove the brain hence why they're called jar heads
No, don't fucking give me the 'we didn't care' excuse.
Stop being a little bitch and just face the harsh reality that you're terrible world leaders.
It was our time to rise up and above your silly country.
>Unscrew the head and remove the brain, hence why they're called jarheads
More like it's because the high military regulation haircut literally gives their heads that appearance you dipshit.
>Personifying an entire nation by my remarks
I AM A KEK, BRITAIN IS THE WORST NATION ON EARTH
>Americans speak their mind, are rightwing and love guns, is this cowardly?
Talking the talk and walking the walk are very different mate, Americans seem to learn the hard way, whereas Brits know what to expect!
> A fairer comparison might be the US Marines vs the British Army
I can't argue against this, US soldiers aren't trained to the same standards as a 'so-called British equivalent'
but I don't dismiss the US Army on this alone.
American army is a much more aggressive recruiter and it is easier to get in. It's also not considered a 'normal' career option in Europe, only hard lads try to get in.
European militaries are numerically shit and reject a lot of recruits due to nomonies but at least they filter out the psychologically weak shits this way.
"As a former Recon Marine I had the honor and opportunity to work with the RMC's. There's not even a remote simularity between the two. The Royal Marines are a Special Operations unit that operate as Commandos and have to attend specialized schools in order to obtain the title. The US Marines are a conventional fighting force and are therefore a completely different entity in comparrison."
best answer i could find.
no. sorry they are dumb as fuck and bitch alot I mean you know your either a marine so it's been pounded into you that your some high speed fighting force or your a civilian and the same applies just not to the same scale.
To be fair I've never seen this before, and it looks like it was made back in the 80s or 90s. Most commercials for the military that I've watched are more akin to the British one.
Simply put. The Brits are famous for having a "stiff upper lip". If they are actually afraid, the only person they're going to show is themselves. The culturally derived thoughts of the British make them superb soldiers.
Americans, too, used to make fine soldiers. But American culturally derived thought processes have changed to where that's not necessarily the case anymore.
>Americans, too, used to make fine soldiers
This has never been the case.
It's the complete reverse. American troops used to be absolutely dog shit, now they've learned a thing or two from their European comrades.
I disagree. Our grunts/average soldiers don't come from the middle class. Its mostly poor country white boys and blacks that actually want to leave the ghetto and have nothing to lose at all if they die.
A lot of the people on the front line are drawn from the working class and even the working poor. I can't speak on behalf of a Glaswegian or a Geordie, but I'm sure there are a lot of Americans with similar upbringings.
Why don't you start your second-wave of world domination by stopping immigrants from dominating your people?
Kinda hard to rule the world when you're second-class citizens in the country you've inhabited for thousands of years.
The British army also targets 16+ year olds, even with a 16-18 yrs old military college.
The problem is the constant,
>MUH 'MERICA GREATEST
>MUH TROOPS IS DA BEST
That attitude attracts glory hunters, and those that feel like they lack as a person so they need to join for the confidence boast. but the British army is more focused on the development of it's soldiers i.e the slogan for the Royal Navy "Born <blank> made in the Royal Navy". We also don't but our soldiers on a pedestal like Americans do.
>stiff upper lip
There is, or was, a different attitude in Jollye Olde. Returning soldiers could taken to task for going on about "being up to me neck in bullets". The kind of thing that could get you accused of "playing to the galleries". American war movies show a different take. Maudlin, sentimental, and emotional; a lot of whimpering about the Kid From Brooklyn.
American are a fairly emotional bunch.
Royal Commandos are elite forces
Marines are lumpen infantry
The advertisements for our special forces are more subtle than yours however. It's not much about muh tuffness and are you bad enough to not get stuck underwater swimming through a water tunnel.
Brits won the falklands war alone, British soldiers haven't been known to be incompetent, it has being the labour politicians that restricted the building of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan.
That's because you have to of already served in the armed forces to join the SAS or SBS...
SAS get most of their members from the parachute regiment which is elite in itself..
SBS get most of their members from the royal marines.
Do you think standard Army and Jarhead grunts are SOCOM?
The Royal Marines aren't special forces, matey, they're just higher-tier than most of the Army.
Our equivalent to the SEALS would be the SBS. As for advertisements, we can't really compare them since the SAS/SBS don't recruit from the public.
in my opinion the leadership is the incompetent bit as in the old days most of them paid to command troops and after that got banned they got moved up the chain fast as their regimental commander went to school with their dad. or sons took their fathers place in the local regiment. the Tommy Atkins in the ranks was just as good as a regular soldier in a foreign army provided he was lead effectively by someone who wasn't too inbred. it didn't help that until after ww1 British infantry doctrine was let the officers and senior NCO make all the decisions, which led to a lack of initiative in the ranks due to a fear of getting flogged or worse.
Listen kid . . . .sometimes it's best not to say anything, especially if you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
SEALS and SBS have totally different roles, if you want to do the 'My dad is bigger than your dad' shit, then go and troll a You-Tube video!
MFW America defends the world from the Four Horsemen of the apocalypse in the name of Freedom and the American way
Brits don't give a fuck, they were probably thinking about TEA
I have never encountered Spanish soldiers, never thought about the reasons why either, come across Bulgarians and Danish in Afghanistan but never Spanish . . ..did you guys ever go to Afghanistan?
>Fucking hell, excuse my language.
Polite even under mortar fire. Makes me proud to be British.
SAVAGE FUCKING BANTZ BETWEEN TWO CLOSE "ALLIES"
WHERE IS ISRAEL
WE ARE BEING SHOAHED BY BANTER AND THEY'RE NOT HERE
WHERE IS OUR ALLY FRANCE
WHERE IS JAPAN
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
Tea is important old boy we would be doomed without it.
Opened thread to say this. Also difference between POG who has never taken incoming fire and one who has been in country for 9 months. Eventually even the POGiest of admin clerks will be more interested in chow and XBOX than mortars.
Yeah and we operate in a very manly fashion: without ammo.
The government won't allow us to shoot unless shot back AND hurt.
Some of our troops are so fucking fed up they patrol without any ammo at all.
I hear we've been involved in nasty shootouts, mainly side by side with Italians.
Not a big presence though, just some troops, legionaires and maybe one or two planes, plus humanitarian shit.
Go for it, the Corps love to get more recruits to use as meat shields for the Army. FYI the US Marines are basically advanced shock troops used as fodder because they are the cheapest branch in the US Military.
Still though Marines are not bad people just happens to be the truth of their role.
Jesus Christ. I think Brits have surpassed the Aussies in shitposting
Serious comment though: I was reading "Black Hawk Down" and something akin to this came up.
Somalis would launch mortars at the US base at night. The rookies would panic, scream, and take cover. The long-time guys would just walk around. It was pretty funny.
Near the end of the book, after the massive clusterfuck operation, a sergeant was directly struck with one. Ironic.
I don't diss' the Spanish as they were pretty big on the Empire scene a few years ago and I don't doubt you guys could put up a good fight if the need arises!
You need to make yourself a bit more well known internationally . . .you tend to hide away and not get involved, is there a reason for this?
In all seriousness though the Brits took areas that were low intensity conflict out in Iraq and Afghanistan, when shit started heating up you guys almost lost control of your most important locations. Apparently your jackass troops were ignoring the US officers when they were briefing your troops with useful intel and they kept going on about Norther Ireland or some shit and how its not a big deal.
i did frost backs have verry little combat knowledge is what i was getting at. My cousin goes to uni in canada and some nigger stole his GF's bike and instaed of confronting the NIG they called the cops. I'm saying canada is a lib shithole for the most part. qubec gets hated on because of thier natonalism and the fact that their men are still men and wome are women
It's similar with ours.
The footage has a pretty big emphasis on providing support and disaster relief than it does on "shootin' talibanistanis in the desert", there's no crazy charging into battle through smoke and fire riding on horseback while an orchestra blasts in the background stuff like the US commercials.
Fucking hell it's like something out of Starship Troopers
>I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill em all!
That fucking marine corps commercial is something straight out of Starship Troopers, holy shit.
I swear to god I didn't copy your post m8 I thought the exact same thing
True lad, TEA is very important
>I'M FROM THE TOILET AND I SAY FLUSH EM ALL!