I started mildly left anyway, just had an idealistic view of things with a dose of cynicism which slowly grew as I became more and more aware of SJWism existing and the bullshit lengths people will go to be progressive.
I was a heavily democratic leftist for a time because, though I personally identified most as a libertarian at the time I felt that the democratic party's focus on civil rights was more important then the monetary policies until I got older and realized that the money is far more important. Money freedom is people freedom.
I was never on board with white guilt cuck shit nor affirmative action, still am not today.
Personally though I still expose freedoms I wanted before heavily. Pro Gay, Pro Abortion, Pro Death Penalty, Pro Euthanasia, Anti Religion (mostly Islam). But the more right leaning things I believe are correct are more important. Like getting those fucking illegal cunts out of my country and punishing worthless criminal scum.
Sorry OP, there was no magical redpill moment for me nor do I have a good story to tell. It's just a slow shift as experiences change.
>>61241763 I'm a very large man. I have always been bigger than my peers. When I was a child I could see clearly that I was bigger and stronger than my peers. I noticed I was more intelligent than someone for the first time when I was trying to explain a concept to my friend's father. He could not begin to understand me. I think I've always been inclined to be red pilled. I've also been heavily interested in history since I was young, so I was never caught by the jews and their lies.
>>61241763 It's lame. >I lived abroad in Saudi Arabia from ages 5 to 9 >My father was making sweet bux with his long time buds as contractors >Went to the U.S consulate school in Daharan >Came home >Realized as we get older and understand more, negotiation doesn't work like pokemon card trades
I was educated into leftism, then slowly questioned their practice and the functionality of our political ideals. Then became more realistic about human social behavior. Grew older and and began to understand peoples perspectives and political opinions easier. Because I realized I was surround by indoctrinated vessels. And began blending in like a chameleon in different social groups in society.
I was force fed the red pill by my first girlfriend who cheated on me, this was the catalyst for me no longer always seeing the positives in people/situations and taking things at face value. I wish I could go back to being blue pilled again but it's too late now, I just try to limit my time on pol these days otherwise I become full of hate for the world.
>>61241763 I grew up. I was more of a leftist until I was about 19, when I started to grow out of it.
Also, the situation changed. The West wasn't facing a legitimate existential threat 5 years ago, so my priorities were very different. Interestingly, my family are all still left wing, I'm the only right-aligned in my immediate family.
Was blue pilled as fuck. Believe in open borders, that everybody was equal. Invaded /pol/ when moot declared war on it. A few chimpout and refugee crime threads later and I'd be happy to see mudslime refugees put in death camps.
>>61241763 >>61241763 Grew up going to a leftist youth group, which was basically a bunch of middle class hippies, my mum was one of the leaders. Didn't realise too much about the politics of it till I was at the international camp (groups from all over the world coming together) when I was around 17 and they played the Communist Internationale at the big meeting. Basically the group was all about 'love everyone and be nice to everyone'. There was no real competition between people as they didn't believe in competition, they believed in pacifism etc. Although I had some fun times there as a kid the politics were absolutely retarded and cancerous.
Around 18-20 I started noticing racial differences as although I lived near an area that had quite a lot I never tended to go there and had not had too many interactions with them. Eventually I found out about the BNP and found that I really agreed with their website, I then ordered some books from their store and got really into it. Even tried starting a group round here, had a few meetings but never really got off the ground. This was around 2008-9 when BNP was doing really well. Since then I haven't been involved in any big groups but I still have same views. I'm 28 now and probably was 19-20 when I became 'redpilled'.
Still have debates with my dad when he comes down (he doesn't live with us, they split up when I was 6). He is annoying to debate with as he really has no logical arguments but always thinks that he has won, probably doesn't help he is usually drinking when we have these debates. He's basically an old school socialist/communist but doesn't really like Jews or Pakis but is retarded enough to the believe the 'my one true version of Communism' has never been tried shit. Although I'm not sure how much as usually he is just a socialist and he brings up the Communist stuff when he's drunk maybe just to annoy me. I don't tend to debate stuff with my mum anymore as she gets too emotional about it.
>>61241763 >be me >always consider liberty and personal freedom as most important things in life >be liberal, because the left was atheist, pro legalizing weed, pro sexual freedom etc >suddenly start to realize left's discourse is now about limiting freedom >more taxes >banning smoking from public places >pushing PC down everyone's throat >anti gun >start looking for information from the other side >realize right makes more sense
>>61241923 This I didn't even know about this place until other anons from other boards said how much they hate /pol/. Now I have a Nazi fetish and own a copy of Mein Kampf. But I've always had a suspicion that the media is a trick and the government is always lying
>>61241763 I grew up in a hardcore hippy family, luckily the attitude was freedom and be yourself (with a dash of socialist care for everybody).
I've always had a nack for spotting bullshit, so I was one of the very few people from my area that left and joined the military. Since then I've played a lot more attention to what happens around the world. I became fully red pulled after I got my firearms licence as a civilian and saw the bullshit thrown my way from the radical left just because I enjoy shooting.
Now I pretty much browse /pol/ daily and keep abreast of happenings. Planning for the end times
>>61241763 >be Texan >all my friends believe in god in high school, would get in fights with them about certain aspects of it that made no sense >go to a really far away college and, rebelling against the dumb conservatives of my state, become a liberal fag >woo colbert and stewart, 'lel conservatives are retards' >pretty much everyone else also becomes a liberal; this makes it easy to see how dumb certain parts of it were >recognize how ridiculous it is that some groups can say "fag" or "nigger" and some groups can't, liberals are supposed to be about free speech and equality i thought? >affirmative action also flies in the face of equality wtf >also all of this "gender" theory stuff just doesn't make any sense, it seems like people are just making it up as they go along >feminists call terms like "friendzoned" misogynist, even though it can be used by women or men in gay relationships >can't talk about iq by race or nationality or you're automatically a racist >try really really really really really hard to come up with some way of resolving all this bullshit whilst remaining liberal >can't >come to /pol/ and their perspectives click instantly
On a lot of things anyway.
I'd basically lived as a huge beta for a large part of my life because of my liberal ideology. Thinking that it was "good" to help others rather than myself would lead me to do things like let other people have the armrests on airplanes and trying not to take up space, etc. Anyway, I'm over it now. Going to grad school back in Texas soon.
>>61241763 My family has always been left leaning and my redpill journey started with feminism since Its crazy ideas and the type of people it attracted made me realise that adults could be incredibly stupid and that made me start doubting every single man and woman who spoke of political stuff including my family. And i would sometimes intentionally or unintionally come across convincing arguements and data that contraficted what i had been taught. It was easy to change my views because i didnt speak loudly of my opinions when i had the slightest doubt so my ego never Got in the Way.
>>61243606 not sure if you would prefer here to sweden.. Homo marriage is allowed etc.. but the income is almost half of what swedes earn... I havent been to sweden but the standard of living probably isnt as good here?
People are generally not racist, but they just havent developed political correctness like in the west, so they appear rude
>>61241763 Born into the most redpilled family ever. I can remember being 5 and watching tv with my grandma and her saying the sandniggers were at it again. Also that blacks commit more crime and have lower IQs. AND that Hitler was right and we fought for the wrong side. Born to the pill die by the pill.
I was raised first as a Catholic, but it had no political meaning to it as a kid. I went to church, I was taught right and wrong, and I followed. I went to the American Public School System, and I forgot about religion because of middle school social bullshit. I decided to go to a Catholic high school.
I was described as a libertarian when I was in high school. It came from a white liberal-ish librarian. She then asked me "Are you a racist?" when I asserted that Japanese animators were better than American animators. I was a faggot then, because I bought the "Don't offend anyone" thing. Left the Church again because of its vacuousness on philosophical levels, or it seemed so at the regular weekly Sunday experience.
I tried to fit in with degenerates at Art School, because I thought their talent and creativity would be bestowed upon me if I behaved and spoke and thought like them. It didn't happen, I was jobless, and came back to the Church, after being really, really red-pilled.
How did I get red-pilled? I remembered watching The Passion of the Christ. It ignited in me a whole storm of emotions, but one of them was me asking about my identity and how it relates to how I felt about what I was seeing.
I started watching EWTN (Back then it was still good.) and then it spread to Michael Voris' Realcatholictv/ Church Militant "podcasts" where he explains Catholic concepts that I would never have heard in church.
I started going back to a decent, Catholic church with a good pastor who knew his stuff and didn't just appeal to emotions. It spread to me researching things on the internet, I was surprised to find monarchists, of all people, still existing. And then I seriously questioned every assumptions I had, and what other people took for granted.
I became annoyed that my fellow liberals were ashamed of our country. Also i hate islam, i was super dumb when i was a teenager and went to all this muslim stuff. But after i was in two different mosques and they were talking about bringing the sword once there was enough of them, i was over it. They are not a religion of peace. Now im redpilled i guess.
>>61241763 Well I used to have more leftist views, till I started looking at the internet abroad. I saw things I only heard of and slowly became redpilled over time. Other than that not much to say here.
I still hold of my most liberal beliefs, it's just that the left has become overly extreme and shifted them into what would be considered conservative beliefs, such as having a grain of common sense.
I don't believe ALL Jews and ALL blacks are responsible for their majority's actions. Some of the most red-pilled anti-Semitic people I've ever met were born in Jewish families and would technically be qualified as a Jew. Some of the most intelligent and beautiful people I knew in college were black.
Meme has become synonymous with mass inside-joke but really it are memes that hurt this world. Memes are what make up a culture and long before the concept of memes were widely known they were used to cripple most cultures. Blacks are how they are today due to their culture, while they may have been mostly useless to our civilization throughout history they have proven they can behave exactly as anyone else, however they're brought up with near systematic coordination to be disgusting vermin now, and modern liberals expect us to see the world in a twisted illogical set of blacks and whites. If it weren't on such a massive scale I'd say that most of the worst bullshit from liberals are actually plants by the government to make liberals appear so stupid that even liberal ideas have absolutely no merit. Maybe that is what happened and it sort of evolved into a bigger thing, but it doesn't really matter. My beliefs never changed, if anything they were reinforced and finely tuned.
>>61241763 >be leftist >start browsing /pol/ >keep reading leftist books and debating with leftist friends >be more leftist than ever nowadays, as these ideas provide most of the best answers to the world's issues >still enjoy reading /pol/'s non sense about leftist ideas (hint : cultural marxism is not a thing for any rational marxist or anarchist) >nourish my thought through the reading of some well-constructed debate here and take some step backs on traditionnal leftist ideas while learning more about the thought process of enemies such as statists, facists or libertarians
The whole reason people get so entrenched into the left is because they believe they're more educated.
If those 'standing on books' pictures were to be accurate, it should be a blind man working on the plaster of the wall from the dystopian side; a man standing with his face on the wall; a man standing on a couple books staring at the dystopia; and another man standing on a tower of books staring again at wall.
>I had a philosophy graduate friend of mine tell me I relied too much on common sense >instantly realized how bullshit higher education is when it teaches people to deny self-interest
I was a typical militant atheist progressive liberal (but classical liberal, not left wing economic policy liberal like contemporary American liberalism). I browsed /pol/ a little, mostly for entertainment purposes. I study history and the Holocaust threads intrigued me. I started taking /pol/ more seriously when I realized a lot of the Holohoax arguments actually have some merit to them — regardless of their truthfulness, they're interesting questions nonetheless that are absolutely forbidden to even talk about in my country.
I began to despise liberalism and first swung to the other side of the political spectrum (full blown natsoc) before eventually settling on rather traditional conservatism.
>>61241763 In Primary school (Which was basically 100% white except for token poly kids) was taught how all races were equal and such. Then as I transitioned to college (About 40% White 40% poly) (Highschool for Amerifats) where i took bio, learned about correlated alleles. Started to get exposed to niggatery from my peers and fucking realised that there are very clear differences in races
Left here, came here probably a year ago for my interest in politics (didn't think about it when I first browsed 4chan).
A few ideas I have had changed, but still on the left for the most part. Many of you don't realize the bullshit that is posted here so you are deluded. Nevertheless I still enjoy some of the banter here.
>>61241763 at some point in my late 20's i realized that my values and opinions on things were not born out of my own mind like i thought but were being inserted into me stealthily
turning to conservative media i has happy at least that their expressions were open and direct and aimed at the conscious mind and not trying to slip in their ideology through the back door via entertainment media like leftists do.
also the colbert report back when it started helped awaken me to this. the one show where he depicted the liberal media as a ravenous wolf was quite a revelation to me.
then i heard a soundbyte from michael savage on the radio and started listening to him and i was sealed in ever since
I've never been a Lefty per se, but I've definitely come to understand just how incorrect the left is on a lot of things and how the right tends to always have better economic and social policies.
I also started to notice contradictions in the things people said and did a lot more. For instance my Dad has always supported the conservatives here, but when a news story concerning American politics comes on TV he's one step away from licking an image of Obama. He still sees the American right as racist Christian warriors.
>>61241763 >implying red pill means anything >implying left or right ideology is fundamentally superior >implying these are not all subjective and depend upon a zeitgeist of a nation not a blanket theory >implying rational decision making makes sense in an irrational world were rationalization is made post-decision
>>61241763 >implying I was ever a leftist My parents raised me with right-wing values, even though I didn't know it when I was a child/teenager. I saw truth within it, so I had no rebellious phase in this regard.
>>61244810 i guess it goes as a default for eastern europe countries. I know some left leaning people, 99% of them being women who don't know shit about life. Usually easy to redpill because we're not that brainwashed yet
>>61241763 I was one of them OP, I really believed the NOTALLMUSLIM shit and was the generic fedora wearing atheist making fun of believers. I wish I could go back in time and kick my old self in the nuts for how stupid and brainwashed I was. I even had a discussion with my parents who thought all muslims are fucking barbarians and should be deported off planet while I was taking the moral high ground of "you can't judge everyone by the action of few" and the "the reason the middle-east and africa are so fucked up is due to europe and america".
political correctness and typical sjw talking points made me extremely hateful of them. i've never really had consistently bad experiences with minorities but the white guilt, blm, refugees, etc. shit has made me a bit racist as well
Rapefugee crisis and subsequent liberal dishonesty red-pilled the fuck out of me on certain issues. I still have some leftist values, for example I don't have an irrational hatred of transgender people stemming from my own insecure masculinity. ;^)
I started getting redpilled when I was like 16, looking into libertarianism and being an edgy atheist. Then in my sophomore year of college I got swallowed up by the machine and went back to being bluepilled for another 3 years. After seeing the refugee crisis in Europe though, I'm back to being redpilled.
when i was 15-16. i was very liberal progressive before. i'm hispanic and get mistaken for being of turkish descent quite often here. i do believe that every ethnicity should be treated equally, but that's just an idealistic fantasy that's never going to work. people are a product of their environment. i grew up in a white neighborhood, had only ever white friends and finished high school and speak german like a native.
anyways, i started swinging to the right when i moved to a bigger city. young muslim men always walk in groups and don't socialize at all. they don't mingle. they live in their communities, sell kebabs or whatever and thats it. they were always the ones that did the worst at school. when there was a mugging or a bike theft it was always one of them. i get treated better than my friends when we do have to interact with them, just because i'm brown. around that time i started to realize that this isn't right. people invite you into your country and you completely seal off from them, basically creating a country of your own.
even though my parents were immigrants, they were allowed to enter germany because my father was offered a job there. not because some liberal agenda pushed by the government. that generation for some reason still feels guilty about WWII and this is suicidal. we spend hours in school being taught in gruesome detail about the atrocities the nazis did. that's pretty traumatizing as a kid. you just don't tell a 12 that their grandfather was a monster even though he was probably forced into doing what he did.
>>61244771 As long as it doesn't affect others, in places like parks or non-crowded streets, why not?
I've never smoked in my life, but seeing smokers go from majority to minority was awful.
When they went to minority suddenly everyone else thought it was ok to shit on smokers with every bullshit restriction, currently on route to banning smoking completely. I don't give a fuck about cigarettes, but I care about majority banning shit which they simply don't like and which doesn't affect them. Like chinese cartoons with loli, swastikas, /pol/ etc.
And smokers are net gain to the society - they pay more taxes through cigs, die earlier without retirement pension or medical costs of old people.
Liberal my whole life. Raised secular/agnostic/liberal (politics not forced on me).
Seeing liberal hypocrisy did it in for me. I have *my* ways of how a liberal society should look.... What's been going on totally disagrees.
The government should stay the FUCK out of how society treats each other. Although I believe equality and utopia is the end game strategy, we should come to that realization NATURALLY, as opposed to government-enforced "equality" policies.
I believe people should be held to standards. Although I was liberal, I was a straight shooting person. No criminal record, work hard in school. Athlete, appreciate non-degenerate art and music. Probably the nicest guy you will never meet (intentional cringe). But I see a lot of militant liberals who, imo, are very nasty mean and hurtful people. Media and corporations banking in on liberal ideology. Realizing that although "getting ahead" in life is incredibly difficult under any circumstance, it's basically impossible under a socialist-liberal policy. Realizing that I wasn't randomly born here on accident, but that our ancestors fought with their lives to give me my existence. To realize how privileged I am to be born into a peaceful country during peacetime. Realizing that it's only peaceful because our ancestors fought to prevent and remove kebab. Realizing that the problem with all the music and movies that this disgusting society gorges in is mindwashing distasteful propaganda, and it's carefully engineered by elitist jews. I was always told that I never really had a great "sense of humour", I thought I did but people would tell me differently. I just never really found mainstream music or movies or comedians to be very funny, artful, enlightening. And for this I blame jewish monopolization of the art and media industry. Jews are terrible artists, in all of its forms. The only reason they are in control of it is because they bought it out using their power after dominating the financial market... cont
jews are in power of the world's finance because that's the only thing they care about. And it goes hand in hand on why they are terrible artists. But they bought out hollywood and now we're forced to fucking deal with it. I used to just think that all the good art has already been made, or that there was always a "mainstream trash" of a given art form. But I no longer think that is true.
Fuck a lot of other things too. That's just my rant on jews and art....
I hate art now. It sucks. Comedians aren't funny, movies are rehashed basic fucking degenerate bullshit (movies are the worst), actually no music is the worst. Jesus fucking christ.
Anyways the art a society makes and likes influences public opinion and yada yada, shit art -> shit people -> shit. Something like that.
Also I might have had subconscious right leaning tendencies in the back of my mind the whole time, but suppressed them in the hopes that my life would turn out okay if I just work hard and suck the dick of whoever I need to suck, metaphorically of course. That's what they told us in school! Anyways didn't turn out like that. I used to think I had severe depression and had suicidal thoughts all the time, but never actually spoke to a therapist or doctor in my life and have chosen to just "man it out". I am less depressed now because i'm realizing that it wasn't ME who was fucked up, it's the society that we live in's fault. I realize now that we CAN change it, and that has given me hope.
Also jews cut my fucking foreskin off and now I have a low sex drive.
2008 was when the hate rolled in for me, I finished college during right and the economy crisis and it was hard as fuck to get a job. While I was waiting to be hired I stared looking deep into who was fucking things up and it pointed to our greatest ally. Also reading about Germany's gold era, after Hitler but before the war, was a read eye opener. I am not saying Hitler dindu nuffin but he had some really good economic ideas.
realized syndicalism would be a great utopia but not probable at this point in human/social evolution.
figure national socialism would provide the benefits of a relatively fair system as far as workers rights and wages to keep lefties happy coupled with the masses of people who lean right would be happy with its nationalistic ideals.
Also realizing that we NEED NEED NEED NEED FUCKING NEED heavy duty right wingers in order to protect us.
I feel so fucking dumb, and it was one of my redpilliest moments.
I was such a hyperliberal faggot guys.
I was anti military. I have a military base near where I live. I would see people my age all the time who are signed up to fight and die for our country. In my head all I can think about is "IT'S 2015" (but not 2015 cause this was a few years ago) and genuinely looked down on them.
Look at the populations of the countries in this world. There HAS TO be a standing force keeping the fucking muzzies out. If we had no protection, we would be invaded and terraformed within a month.
The refugee crisis helped a lot. It wasn't much of an epiphany, as I said before I was liberal leaning agnostic but harboured a pretty solid spectrum of beliefs. The refugee crisis helped me become more vocal about my stances, and helped me pick where I really stand.
I was cucking myself before by trying to obey the laws of progressiveness and political correctness. Not wanting to discriminate against anyone for anything.
However keeping yourself cucked by those things prevents you from exploring ideologies further, I find. So I had to completely throw all of that in the trash, which was easy after liberal hypocrisy showed me the true subjective and flimsy definitions those words have.
Racist, bigot, homophobe, islamaphobe... Getting accused of being a homophobe by a gay person was pretty enraging and eye opening. I was in no ways a homophobe, but this guy accused me of it and his word wins. So what's the point? I've tossed out all of that PC bullshit and i'm so happy to be able to discuss things openly. I feel like for the first time ever, my political ideology is backed up by cold hard truth, as opposed to some subjective made-up fiction world that only exists in my head.
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