Is it true that in american prisons you shit in front of your

>>61234135
Yes.

>>61234135
These days? Probably yes, unless it's supermax. US prisons are overcrowded as fuck.

>>61234135
Yes, it's not suppose to be a luxury resort for niggers

>>61234135
Yes that's why you don't want to go there

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>>61234199
Even in ADX Florence' America's #1 superman prison where the worst of the worst go, they're still shitting in the toilet in their cell they just do not have a cell mate

>>61234135
dont drop the toilet paper

>>61234135
In jail you shit in front of up to 30 people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSM_UvZ-Jic

>>61234201
>you can't have basic hygiene or decency if you commited an offense

>>61234292
>2016
>Black & White TV

For what purpose?

This days is probably cheaper to have cheapo LCD screens.

>>61234135
lack of privacy is a subtle psychological tactic to break their spirits

>>61234394
>subtle

>>61234358
But did that person have any decency he commited his crime?

>>61234640
you don't have to rape a grandma while her husband is watching to end up in jail in america

>>61234135
Yes. Prison is punishment for criminals. It's not summer camp.

>>61234379

Black and white has shitty res and no color which today is a punishment

>>61234995
>>61234764
Prisons should be for rehabilitation not punishment.

>>61235070

Not always.

>>61234292
>4 inch wide window
At that point it's not even a window. More like a slit.

>>61234292
That's what I meant. SuperMax have single person cells as a rule. I don't think any have more than 1 person in the cell.

>>61234699
So your saying the criminals are decent people?

>>61235070
Jail maybe, prison no

>>61235070
Why not both? Being uncomfortable is incentive enough for a majority of people not to want to go to prison.

>>61234292
looks comfy

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>>61235186
i'm saying the right to no live like pig is a basic human right

>They're not forcing them to shit on front of other men ! fucking leftists trying to make our prisons summer camps

retard

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>>61234292

Am I just fucked in the head, because that actually looks like a pretty comfy place to live.

Like, if it wasnt a prison and you could do whatever you want.

>>61235319
Having a private toilet is a basic human right?

>>61235237

Looks like the opposite of comfy, but if you put in an actual bed, chair, and computer I'd live there.

>>61235070
>>>61234995 (You) #
>>>61234764 #
>Prisons should be for rehabilitation not punishment.

People dont change. Especially criminals who will likely do crime again since bring in prison blocks almost every job and the fact that they're in prison for being lazy retarded shits

>>61235070
No. Part of the reason for imprisonment is to punish the offender. Society in general favours punishment and the justice system must represent that view.

Look at how butthurt people get about the Common Law's "slap on the wrist" approach to crime.

>>61235070
>kills 3 people
>400 hours community service coz he A GUD BOY TRI TO GET HIZ LYFE TOGEFOR

You comitted a crime you get punished for the crime

>>61235335
it doesnt have internet you moron. no nothing.

after a month you probably go nuts because there is nothing to d

>>61235352
clearly, just like not having to scent the odor of your co-mate after he takes a dumb

>>61235070
Rehab doesn't work

>>61234135
not sure about prison but in jail you have your own bathroom

>>61235544
It can work, but the numbers make it not. Dumpiung 10 mil into a rehab program to have 1/100 dindu turn his life around is not cost efficient

>>61234358
Do not commit the crime if you don't want to do the time.

>>61235676
I could commit a crime and serve my sentence without losing all my dignity

>Dutch prison
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3293785/Well-prison-Holland-Inmate-films-smoking-joint-luxury-cell-surrounded-TV-mini-fridge-PlayStation.html

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http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/feb/25/norwegian-prison-inmates-treated-like-people

>An inmate sunbathes on the deck of his bungalow on Bastoy

>>61235737
Not how we do shit, it's a punishment not a day spa.

>>61234135
Yes. It's supposed to be a punishment, not a comfortable apartment

>>61234292
>immovable concrete desk and stool

Now that's just fucked up. If you wanted to sit and draw or something you would be sitting on a bare concrete pillar with no backrest, plus you couldn't even adjust how close it is.

>>61235780

>They're not forcing them to shit on front of other men ! fucking leftists trying to make our prisons summer camps

Stop being such a retard anon

>>61235755
We'll send you millions of violent American dindu gang members

>>61235829
No, now fuck off
Do not do the crime and you don't get punished

>>61235810
Boo fucking hoo
It's a supermax prison for a reason

>>61235886
But the punishment is imprisonment. Which just means being confined to one space. The punishment isn't having that place suck as much as possible.

>>61235810
I'm sure most prisons everywhere are similar, mainly for prisoners' and COs' safety

>>61235849
We are already getting norwegian prisoners because our prisons are empty (except for some morrocans)

>>61235944
Incentive not to come back

>>61235810
If it wasn't they'd figure out a way to misuse it.

>>61235886

But you need to give somebody their dignity so they dont hate the justice system itself. Thats why nobody respects the justice system/police in America. You focus so much on punishment, you forget prison is meant to be a place for rehabilitation.

>>61235944
It's not a fucking day spa, it's a punishment

Cry more

>>61235944
Welcome to America, hans. Spread your cheeks for the REAL punishment.

You guys don't have Bubba jokes in Germoney? Only Enrichment?

>>61235981
Doesn't look like it's working.

>>61236000
Zero fucks given if prisoners hate the prison system or police in America
It's mostly nigs anyways

>>61235977
Is there really little crime or just the literal PC police not arresting non-whites?

>>61236000
No rehabilitation in American prisons, the idea is for criminals to hate prison enough not to go back.

>>61236040
So we should make it worse?

>>61236040
Niggers aren't very bright

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>>61234379
It has to do with being certified for prison use, I'd imagine. These clear TV's enable the guards to see if shit is hidden inside and are specially made for prisons.

>>61236107
>Zero fucks given if prisoners hate the prison system or police in America
You are aware that they'll usually eventually come out of that prison again, right?
>>61236137
If it doesn't work, just double down, keep doing what doesn't work harder, maybe it'll start working eventually!

>>61236113

But that doesnt work.

>>61236146
This and their culture encourages it. A nigger will get more praises for getting out of jail than if they graduated

>>61236173
and if and when they reoffend they'll go back

>>61235944
Fuck off nigger sympathiser

>>61236111
Few people are actually sentenced to a prison sentence. Most people just get probation or community service.

>>61236213
That's because criminals tend to not care about punishments in the first place. We'd rather not try to help the niggers become 'civil' because that's just a waste of resources.

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>>61234135

>>61236173
>it doesn't work
>crime rates going down

>>61236266
That's what we call "not working".
The goal of a prison system is to reduce the reoffense rate.
>>61236280
I mostly sympathise with my income. Someone's gotta pay for those prisons. If you need more prisons because your system has a shit recidivism rate, you end up paying more.

>>61236111
For example a drunk Polish guy who ran over a grandma and her grand daughter (3 years old or something) got 120 hours community service.

This is how our "justice" system works. The dad of the child got so angry that he threw a chair to the judge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98AsfsKsD2w

>>61234135
Inmates will put up a curtin so no one watches them shit

>>61236335
Nope, it's a punishment
You're not going to rehabilitate niggers, they're not intelligent enough

>>61236313
But the reoffense rate is going up.
http://www.bjs.gov/content/reentry/recidivism.cfm

As such, I suspect other factors at work that reduce crime.

I did 3 months in a county for some bullshit. You wait until the COs open the cells and then you take a shit. You only do it when your cellies are in there if it's an emergency and it's very frowned upon.

>>61236170
It would smart to hide drugs in there because it's still hard to see, and they would never suspect someone being dumb enough to hide stuff in a clear TV specifically made to counter that, so they wouldn't even look.

what are your luxury prisons going to look like when they're flooded with shitskins?

>>61236376
>the life of your family is only worth community service to the state
I'd take that shit into my own hands if that was my family

>>61236399
>But the reoffense rate is going up

That's prolly cause of probation violations

>>61236399
They cant reoffend from behind bars, néed longer sentences

>>61236335
Alright man let's make judge dred a reality then to cut costs dramatically

>>61236335
if your cucktry actually starts imprisoning its criminal underclass, you will soon learn...

>>61235319
So the people that willingly shit in fields in view of the public in India don't have basic human rights......

>>61236432
>and they would never suspect someone being dumb enough to hide stuff in a clear TV specifically made to counter that, so they wouldn't even look.

You realize we're talking about niggers right?

>>61236113
No rehabilitation in American prisons, the idea is that criminals to go into prison for long enough not to come out
FTFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYvtz8oNdw

>>61235641
I like the Thai punishment for drugs. Or the CIA should have put sterilization chemicals in the crack they sold, would have saved a lot. And when they intercept hard drugs they tamper them repackage them with poison added and let them continue on and keep the profits to fund government.

>>61235944
>>61235829

All the extra confort you'll give to prisoners is paid with honest citizens taxes.
And the bigger is the crime you commited, the larger and protected your cell is.

In Europe , the criminals are treated as if it was not their fault , as if it were unruly children, pedophilia is a mental disease, let's give him a pill to calm him and he can return to live his life quietly threatening the neighbors' children...
It's stupid , honest people do not have to be murdered by a multi- recidivist robber because "the poor robber , it's not his fault! "

>>61236113
If you are releasing them back to society you should rehabilitate them. Elsewhere you have criminal in, hardened criminal out. This does no good for society.
For life long sentences or death penalty there is of course no need to rehabilitate.

>>61236873
>implying niggers can be rehabilitated

>>61235223
This is the type of retarded faggot logic that gets thousands of white people killed by niggers.

>but after 2 strikes nobody is going to commit any crimes because prison sucks!
This sort of logic is why nigger would rather die than get a third strike, and why i would rather die than go to the zoo. If nazi scum want to cage me, they better bring artillery. I'm not going to niggy day care for any reason at all, even if i deserve it.

>>61236964
If they can't they should be locked away for life or killed, I'm saying.
Or you could just solve your nigger problem by deporting all of them back to Africa. I don't get why you are putting up with them.
>inb4 "muh human rightz" - like who is going to argue with the most expensive military in the world?

>>61237076
Germany, pls.
Why don't you deport rapists muslims ?

>>61237176
Because we aren't a military superpower with sovereignty over our own actions. As a nigger from belgium you should know that (EU headquarter and such).

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>>61234394
Sounds useful in producing healthy, sane people who won't reoffend and will be productive members of society when their sentence is over!

>>61237272
Of course I know that.
And you really think deporting niggers is something Obama want to do ?

>>61235755
jesus christ, i pay 400 a month for the same level of luxury

who knew all i had to do was go out and commit a crime for the same thing

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>>61235981
>implying that making someone miserable, uncomfortable, isolated and hated is going to stop them from committing crimes in the future, as opposed to separating them from the public where they can't do any further harm and forcing them through a rehabilitation program.

You're right, your solution is MUCH better

>>61237524

and if you don't get caught your current situation can only improve. so it's win/win

>>61237376
Obama won't be around forever.

>>61236376
>>61236468
We had that affluenza faggot

Even probation as an adult he'll only get four months in jail for killing 4 while drunk

Surprised no lawyer has ever tried the opposite of affluenza, too poor or parents not around to teach them to take responsibility

>>61234135

Yeah man. Prisons are actual Prisons here. Not the plush resorts you euros have.

Trust me. I would rather go to prison in europe on a murder charge than go to prison here for burglary or something.

It's like a fucking jungle.

>>61237535
>implying that making someone miserable, uncomfortable, isolated and hated is going to stop them from committing crimes in the future

They don't want to go back to that area. If they really were isolated, they would come out as better criminals, as the cliche goes

Would you really try your luck with blacks that are "rehabilitated"?

Even a white guy touted around as rehab success went back to killing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Unterweger

>>61237524
In which shithole do you live?

>>61237789
*wouldn't come out

>>61237599
honestly, the only thing preventing me from doing anything crazy is me still having a future (and i'm moderately civilized)

if i feel like my future is forfeit, crime would actually be 'profitable'

>>61237887
amsterdam, student apartment

shit is expensive

>>61237789
>releasing a murderer
>releasing a fucking serial killer

no

why

why would you ever do this

>>61236000
rehabilitate? you fucking liberal idiot

>>61237991
Europeans

>>61238130
Can't wait until Volkert van der G, the assassin of Pim Fortuyn, blasts Geert Wilders in the face.

The released him last year iirc

>>61237535
In Europe, they are pampered, they are fed properly, they have good beds, they are given free diplomas that son of working class can not afford.

It does not change their behavior once outside .
Each time there is an armed attack in a European country. We quickly learned that the criminal has already served a sentence of 3 ? or 5 years ? in prison for murder but he was nice, so he was allowed to go out.

>>61237991
>>61238035

This. Fucking this. I'm tired of seeing honest people die because a criminal has not been jailed because "human rights" or "he 's nice" or "he made a mistake."

>>61234292
COMFY
O
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F
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>>61238130
We don't usually release them.

>>61234358

In the United States, we don't tolerate any of the bullshit you allow in Europe. People complaining about Anders Breivik and his quest for a political science degree? In the USA, we would kill him for what he done.

It's not a "Protective Custody" like some quaint notion of "civility" towards these scum.

What is wrong with you Frenchmen, you used to be so cool- Back then you'd throw people into the Oubliette for poaching on the lord's land, and then you'd go along on your merry Frenchman way, not having to think about what to feed them and if they have colored televisions.

PRISON IS BAD, MOTHERFUCKER. PRISON IS BAD!

>>61235070
YOU CAN'T REHABILITATE MOST OF THESE PEOPLE.

Don't you know that you're incentivizing people who would not have food or shelter in the outside world to commit crimes so that they don't have to work to get even a baseline level of necessity?

It reminds me of these fucking migrants who complain that they don't have internet access.

Those people aren't refugees. Prison isn't a resort, either.

>>61239609
B...but... what about the murderer feels ? :^(

>>61236832

I like the Chinese punishment for drugs. KILL THEM ALL!

>>61239831

False compassion is a lie. We must start culling these parasites, for our taxes, which we had wrought from the sweat of our brow only feed these cancerous groups.

Perhaps... we can install a soylent system to feed them their own.

It's what they'd do in society, anyway.

>>61240109
Bu... But, the humans ri... rights !