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Alright guys,

Had a pretty successful thread last night. Let's try it again tonight.

What can we do to successfully contain/eliminate the abuse of guns and the amount of guns in today's society?

last night's pointers
>constitutional amendment banning/limiting guns
>restricting ammo
>higher priority on the amount of bullets each clip can hold
>MANDATORY background checks
>MANDATORY mental health evaluations signed off by a doctor prior to purchasing a firearm.

What else? Please, if you're going to shitpost do it somewhere else. This thread is for serious discussion.
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Also, I'd like to here more from foreigners who have countries that don't need guns or have guns (UK, Australia, Canada)

I value your input a lot more then Americans who have been brainwashed by "muh freedumz"

(I do apologize on behalf of my ignorant country...not all of us believe this, obviously)
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Sorry, I wasn't aware Adam Lanza ambushed those kids from a second story window. My middle school and high school both had a permanent cop that dealt with degenerates, and would handle an active shooter. That's the best solution. No armed teacher, and nothing shall be infringed.
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>>61229000

Couldn't be more ignorant.....
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>>61228607
weak b8
daily reminder
of our 30,000 gun deaths yearly
20,000 of them are suicides
the remaining 10,000 are homicides, of which 8,000 are directly related to gangs.
in a country of 315 million people
there are approximately 2,000 homicides a year not involving gangs, across the entire fucking nation.

Google the CDC study because i'm using a phone.

guns are a fucking non-issue
my state (MA) had a total of 64 fucking homicides last year, we had 4,000 people overdose on drugs
in case your tiny brain can't comprehend that, 2x as many people died from fucking OVERDOSING ON DRUGS IN MY STATE ALONE than were murdered with guns in the ENTIRETY OF THE USA
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>>61230276
just for reference, I would like any and all constitution loving /pol/acks to use the fact that the north east (New Jersey, New York and New England) are currently facing a drug epidemic, while murders (especially gun related ones) remain low despite several of these states retaining high firearm ownership and loose gun laws (NH and VT come to mind)
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>>61228607
>banning/limiting guns
This infringes on the right of the people to keep and bear arms

>restricting ammo
This infringes on the right of the people to keep and bear arms

>higher priority on the amount of bullets each clip can hold
Magazines, but terminology doesn't really matter because this infringes on the right of the people to keep and bear arms

>MANDATORY background checks
>MANDATORY mental health evaluations signed off by a doctor prior to purchasing a firearm.
By trusting the state with defining who is worthy of keeping and bearing arms, this infringes on the right of the people to keep and bear arms

Daily reminder: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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>>61228607
>>61228690
Well, for a start, you need to disarm the police.

Guns in the hands of police are just trouble waiting to happen.

You also need to ban police from using things like tazers or OC ("pepper") spray, as well as batons.

That's how you truly " contain/eliminate the abuse of guns and the amount of guns in today's society".

Not by taking guns away from law abiding citizens.
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>>61228607
Don't give a reason to have a gun pointed at you.
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>>61228607

It's already contained.

Fuck off.
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SHALL
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>>61231924
INFRINGED
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INFRINGED
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>>61228607

BAIT THREAD
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>>61228607
>>constitutional amendment banning/limiting guns
Go for it. Here's how you need to do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoFKskvSq4

>>restricting ammo
Nope. Not legal at present, and a great way to get people mad at you. Surely you'll get reelected when 99% of the people want you gone!

>>higher priority on the amount of bullets each clip can hold
Will make ZERO difference, just as it made no difference during the AWB.

>>MANDATORY background checks
They are already mandatory. The only exceptions are a feature, not a bug.

>>MANDATORY mental health evaluations signed off by a doctor prior to purchasing a firearm.
What a great way to ensure the government never abuses their power! Surely psychology has NEVER been used by governments for nefarious purposes!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
http://warincontext.org/2013/05/12/abuse-of-psychiatry-in-the-u-s-far-more-extensive-than-occured-in-the-

soviet-union/

Not to mention:
>Excluding terrorism, 90% of mass shooters in the last 20 years have been on long-term SSRI use. (A class of psychoactive prescription drugs.)
>Here is a sample of what Google provided on page 1 when I typed in "SSRI mass killer":
http://www.naturalnews.com/039752_mass_shootings_psychiatric_drugs_antidepressants.html
https://www.corbettreport.com/medicated-to-death-ssris-and-mass-killings/
http://ssristories.org/
http://www.cchrint.org/2014/04/24/ssri-antidepressants-the-gateway-drug-to-mass-murder/
http://www.cchrflorida.org/antidepressants-are-a-prescription-for-mass-shootings/
http://www.encognitive.com/node/886
https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/list-of-mass-shootings-linked-to-ssri-drugs/
>Interestingly enough, early SSRI's were tested by the CIA as part of MK-ULTRA.

You'd be better off banning the sale and manufacture of SSRI's.
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>>61228607

Well here's one nigger that needs some cultural enrichment.
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>>61230276
How do you call guns a non-issue when you specifically say right here why they are an issue. If there were no guns then people all those people wouldn't be able to commit suicide or have all these gang shootings thus savings thousands of lives every year.
The guns are what feed into those types corrupt cultures and thats the energy that feeds into the drug culture as well.
If you removed one element then it would start to crumble and the youth and people would find other outlets to handle themselves and get jobs and things instead.
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>>61228607
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>>61228607

>had a pretty successful thread last night

You mean the thread where you got blown the fuck out for trying to samefag on a board with visible IDs? Yeah, we remember faggot.

Kill yourself.
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>>61232122
Yeah, guns are totally selling drugs.
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>>61231997
>An Australian post that isn't shitposting

Maybe there is hope yet for our shitposting cousins down under.

>>61228607
FN just released the civilian version of the M249 SAW machine gun that the military uses just to trigger faggots like you.
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>>61232122
>blaming everything on guns without actually looking into the circumstances
>Japan has a much higher suicide rate than just about everybody and noguns

Liberals are really this retarded, everybody
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>>61228607

BAIT THREAD!!

DO NOT BUMP THE BAIT!!
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Shall not be infringed. Saged
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>>61232122
>How do you call guns a non-issue when you specifically say right here why they are an issue.

Well, let's see: US population at least 350,000,000

Murders involving firearms: 10,000 approx.

10,000
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350,000,000

= you have a 0.000028 chance of getting shot.

Your chance of dying in a car crash is 0.013 by comparison.

saged, btw.
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>>61232274
It's the culture that sells the drugs, if you remove one of the biggest parts of that culture than it will wither away and die with involvement of the government and reform programs for the youth.

>>61232303
Places like Japan can absolutely not be even slightly compared to America. Our ways of thinking and life are so much different and they have much different reasons for suicide that Americans do.
Guns are what feed into a corrupt way of thinking and enable a lot of people to do terrible things which only make their lives worse. If people knew that they were replacing their guns with a different thing in their lives than I'm sure they would be more than happy to change like rehabilitation programs to help them improve and become a better citizen in our society.
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>>61232562
Why are you debating me? You should know first hand how great a country and it's life is without guns and how they influence so many people. I would give anything in the world to switch places with you for better civilized laws like that.
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>>61232596
>It's the culture that sells the drugs, if you remove one of the biggest parts of that culture

Yet people like you never want to criticise black culture. Why is that?
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>>61228607
>Had a pretty successful thread last night.

Nice copypasta OP.
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>>61228607
>>61232682

Is this fun to you?
Can you honestly tell me that you actually believe in what you are saying here?
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>>61228607

Considering your FBI lists AfroAmericans as being responsible for 78% of armed robberies and 54% of Homicides

>ban dindus from owning guns

As for the remainder, if we assume that 50/50 split between republicans and democrats:

>since dindus are 90% democrat anyway
>ban democrats from owning guns

You should see a drop of 85% in homicide rates and 96% in armed robbery rates just by banning Ds from owning...
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>>61232682
>You should know first hand how great a country and it's life is without guns and how they influence so many people.

Yeah, I love sharing this place with a bunch of idiots who think that because their university professors liked communism,they should too!
I especially love being told that my interest in guns means I am a potential killer by foreigners. yeah that's a great feeling.
Not to mention the utter powerlessness I have against criminals or in case my government goes full Stalin.

>I would give anything in the world to switch places with you for better civilized laws like that.

No problem, let's switch identities! You can come live here and pay our level of taxes and deal with our "legal" corruption, while I can go there and pay fuck-all tax and do what I want.
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>>61232682
> civilized laws
Civilization is a social construct
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>>61232701
Black culture is a very iffy thing to consider I think. It's not the people but rather something that has come from other problems like gun culture and a lot of other tensions from past years that different races have experienced from manipulation and other mistreatment. If they got the rehabilitation and the essential infrastructure they need then everyone would be much better off. It is completely unfair to try and blame that on a race.
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>>61232596
Guns are inanimate objects. If you seriously think they influence people more than drug money or cause people to be violent becsuse of some voodoo magic you seriously need some help, because you're beyond autistic.

Gun control has done absolutely nothing to stop people from committing mass murderers. Australia took guns away.. and guess what? They still have mass killings. People went to fire and using knives. China has mass knife attacks.

You are literally glossing over the issue and proving that you are too stupid to actually look into the problem as a whole, and instead blame the symptom like most liberals who can't critically think, instead of looking into the cause.

Please shut up. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>61228607
All they have to do is repeal the second amendment and then the various states can legislate weapons as they see fit.
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>>61232842
welcome to pol
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>>61233220
Trolling is fun and all but there is a point where one should stop...
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Everyone report this thread, it's copypasta from last night. If enough people report it a janitor will probably get rid of it.

Also saged.
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>>61228607
>clip
Jidf plox
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>>61233022
>It's not the people but rather something that has come from other problems like gun culture and a lot of other tensions from past years that different races have experienced from manipulation and other mistreatment. If they got the rehabilitation and the essential infrastructure they need then everyone would be much better off. It is completely unfair to try and blame that on a race.

Yet the problem almost completely involves people OF that race. Stop blaming guns, because that actuality is that black americans have a culture of crime. It is crime, not guns, that are the problem.

Not to mention, that originally the NRA was founded after the civil war to advocate for the 2nd Amendment rights of black Americans.
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>>61229531
That image is technically correct, the best kind of correct. You do have the right to demand policies you prefer.

You don't, however, have the right - or ability - to enact them.
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>>61229000
Except for the teacher's right to bear arms while at work.
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>>61233321
For what? Free speech isnt allowed? Even retards can have opinions anon
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>>61228607
HNNNNNNGHHHHHH AHHHHHHH YEAH, SHITTIN' IN YOUR THREAD, MMMM

SMELL IT, LIBKEK.
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>>61228607
Tips for successful gun control:

Make sure to use both hands, a shoulder stock, a sling, and a bipod.
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>>61232122
>If there were no guns then people all those people wouldn't be able to commit suicide
They would just commit suicide in other ways.

>or have all these gang shootings
Because criminals follow laws, right? Doesn't matter that for 30 bucks and an internet search you can figure out how to make a shotgun that you get from slapping shit together from Lowes. You ban them, and they'll stop. Just like banning murder and drugs has worked out so well.
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>>61233606
>They would just commit suicide in other ways.

Correct. Now that it's hard to get guns here, very few suicides involve a firearm.

On the other hand, our suicide rate just keeps climbing anyway...

>criminals
Our crims make home-made UZI's and shit now, they only used to use sawn-offs.
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>>61229531
>lol its 2016 guys the government wont hurt us
So said the Romans. So said the Chinese. So said the Russians. So said the jews. So said the "feeble-minded" in America not even fifty years ago. It being the modern day has never stopped the government from abusing its people and it never will.
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>>61233800
Ditto for Britain. The year after guns were severely restricted, hangings skyrocketed.
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>>61229531
>HEY YOU!
>With the Cis-gender.

>Your paranoid fantasies about chromosomes dividing the genders do not trump my rights to demand that you pay for my surgeries, my hormone therapy, and that you call me by my preferred pronouns.

>Sincerely,
>The Rest of America

I just wanted you to know exactly how this sounds to me.
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>>61234274
You think a gungrabber opposes that?
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>>61232122
>If there were no guns then people all those people wouldn't be able to commit suicide

>suicide never happened before guns

is this real? no way your not b8
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>>61228607
If snipers had been covering Kennedy's route, he would definitely have survived.

Unless the snipers were paid off.
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>>61234347
>Based Japan lays it out about sudoku for the round-eyes....
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>>61228607
I have a better idea, how bout you fuck off along to one of these countries with super strick gun laws and leave us alone.

Even LEOs want people to legally arm themselves, stop being a little bitch.
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>>61228690
>Americans have been brainwashed to think they have rights

>>61229531
The image justifies the opposite position perfectly -- the speaker wants to confiscate guns and therefore DESERVES 100% to die. Everyone with an ounce of logic is able to see that gun confiscation in America WILL cause civil war and that millions of people will die because of liberalism.
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>Be liberal
>Don't like guns
>Decide to take them away
>Better use some facts to back it up
>Oh, only 30,000 gun deaths per year?
>Only 10,000 of that is homicide?
>Well shit...
>Time to lie my ass off I guess
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>>61228607
:^)
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Getting a gun just makes yourself more likely to die.

Women gun owners are 4 times more likely to die from gun violence as non gun owning women. These are the best survival odds among gun owners. Children are 13 times more likely to be shot and killed in America than in any other developed nation. Overall, gun owners are 5 times more likely to die from gun violence than non gun owners. Gun owners are 43 times more likely to shoot and kill their own family member as they are to shoot and kill an intruder. Homes with guns are 37 times more likely to have a successful suicide attempt. Less than 1.4% of firearm deaths are deemed justifiable self defense. Less than 0.5% of firearm deaths are of an intruder. Over 70% of hand gun deaths occurred in the home where the handgun was kept. Every day 86 Americans are killed by guns. These stats are derived from the American Journal of Epidemiology, the CDC and the FBI.
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>>61232122
>banning guns will make drug dealers find real jobs

thanks bro, i needed that
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>>61228607
You want a lower violent crime rate? Execute violent criminals. You think spontaneous acts of violence just suddenly appeared in the last hundred years? This shit has been going on since the dawn of man. You can't stop this shit, you can only react to it. Sure you make the number of gun related drop. But you deserve the improvised weapon to the chest you'd get instead for all the good it does. Human life in of itself is WORTHLESS.
You fucking asshats think we should save all humans from each other and themselves. It's certainly not your right to dictate what I can or can not possess, and it sure as fuck isn't your right to decide if someone should be able to kill themselves.
I have killed six people in my life. Six people that will never breath again. Two were by gun shot. Both while serving in the marine corps. The other four were in self defense and with a knife, a brick, a piece of re bar, and a shovel.
Each had their own circumstances and context. I was exonerated on all of these events. The weapons don't matter, it's people.
Some people just need to die. I have a feeling you're one of them Mr. Regulations.
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>>61235062
>Pulls fake info out of his ass.

Nice try. Here's some, actual facts:

>Guns: do NOT increase the chances of a loved one being hurt or killed:
Your "43 times more likely" factoid comes from a study of firearm deaths in Seattle conducted by doctors Arthur L. Kellermann and Donald T. Reay.
Not only does the study ONLY count use of firearms if someones death was the result (ignoring injuries or cases where someone was frightened off by, say, a woman home alone with a gun), but another glaring problem with the survey is that it counts suicides and in fact suicides account for the majority of the deaths. People who commit suicide may use a gun when one is available, but if not they can find many ways to kill themselves. (Of the 389 firearm deaths in the survey, 333 were suicides. ref: http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdgaga.html )

>from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_methods#Firearms
Research published in the New England Journal of Medicine and the National Academy of Science found an association between household firearm ownership and gun suicide rates,<11><12> though a study by one researcher did not find a statistically significant association between household firearms and gun suicide rates,<13> except in the suicides of children aged 5–14.<13> During the 1980s and early 1990s, there was a strong upward trend in (U.S.) adolescent suicides with a gun,<14> as well as a sharp overall increase in suicides among those age 75 and over.<15>
Two separate studies, in Canada and Australia, conducted in conjunction with more restrictive firearms legislation, demonstrated that while said legislation showed a decrease in firearms suicide, other methods such as hanging _increased_. In Australia, the overall rate of suicide actually _increased_ (following a trend that had been moving upwards for some time), and did not decrease until measures specifically aimed at providing support to would-be suicide victims was enacted. ...emphasis added

Part 1/?)
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It's simple

In 2013 there was a total of 33,169 deaths related to firearms. Assuming that is a modern average it would take another 109 years to catch up with the numbers of victims of the haulocaust (people denied their right to a firearm).
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>>61229531
>doesn't trump my right
Actually.
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>>61235062
Part 2/?

>Guns: make you LESS likely to be hurt defending yourself from violent crime:
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries
>Citing four separate studies between 1988-2004, the assessment from the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council says crime victims who use guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves (other strategies include stalling, calling the police or using weapons such as knives or baseball bats).

>Guns: ARE a deterrent to criminals:

http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2012a/commsumm.nsf/b4a3962433b52fa787256e5f00670a71/5de089825c00843e872579b80079912d/$FILE/SenState0305AttachB.pdf
>Upon interviewing convicted felons, these researchers found that
>74% indicated that burglars avoided occupied dwellings, due to fears of being shot
>57% said that most criminals feared armed citizens more than the police
>40% of felons had been deterred from committing a particular crime, because they believed that the potential victim was armed

>Criminals don't stop just because you're unarmed and not putting up resistance, and the cops can take over 20 minutes to arrive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFYMJvsWefw [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_bhp-_e_D8 [Embed]
https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/214974/Annual_Report_Section_Three.pdf

>The average police response time is eleven minutes. Videos like this show why this fact is important.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/rgrG1o8vESw/0.jpg
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>>61235062
(Part 3/3)

>Here's an ACTUAL example:
The intruder broke into a home with a white woman and her kids in there and he chases them upstairs.
He could have simply taken their TV and left, but he follows the mother and the little twins as they try to escape. He breaks through several locked doors to get at the woman and her kids.
The mother had a .38 with her and knew how to use it. She does what she has to do.
>Mother shoots home intruder five times in face and neck after he cornered her in attic with her twins, 9
>Suspect Paul Ali Slater was found bleeding heavily in nearby driveway after crashing his car
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257966/Paul-Ali-Slater-Intruder-shot-times-face-neck-cornering-mother-kids-attic.html
Excerpts from the 911 tapes, with the shots.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/georgia-mother-shoots-home-intruder-911-tapes-18168262
Nogunz politicians would love to take that Mother's pistol right out of her hands.
What would have happened to her and her kids if idiots like you had gotten their way and she was unarmed?
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>>61231127
How is some Fudd stockpiling weapons and ammo anything near a 'well regulated militia'?
If anything, that would be the POLICE.

Just for the record, yes I'm British, and yes I'm applying for a firearms license - but because I want to shoot, not because I've misinterpreted national legislation.
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Shall Not Be Infringed
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>>61235709
Read pic related.
You have no idea of what is meant by "well-regulated" nor by "militia". Hint: it's NOT the cops.
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>>61228607
>clip
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The only threat to freedom on this is if Heller v. DC is overturned. The rest is to keep you tuned into the electric Jew raging about muh guns so you can't focus on the multinational corporations and "trickle down economics" raping our working class of the value of their labor and the dignity of their country.

Limit yourself to voting for.someone who will appoint conservative justices (Trump, Cruz, Paul) and other than that STFU about 2nd amendment. There's a reason it's all the left talks about even though it's an issue for the USSC and not the legislature or executive.
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>>61228607

Enforce current background checks better
Ban gun show loophole

Then...

NOTHING ELSE. EVER.
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>>61228690

>Australia

We're an island so it's hard to import illegal guns. Literally the only reason why gun control "worked" here. The criminals rarely have guns because they're hard to import.
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>>61236741
>The criminals rarely have guns because they're hard to import.

Yeah, that's why they mostly make their own:

Here are some articles showing the major failures of Australia's "tough" gun laws you won't see on TV-
I found these in less than 10 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH76VoI_hsw
http://gunsnfreedom.com/0405-australian-gangs-making-diy-machine-guns-despite-ban-on-assault-weapons/2568
http://1000endonevideo.ru/video/news-politics/-OY3WfG5Urs/australia-gun-smuggling-a-big-problem-since-gun-ban.html
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/jeweller-angelos-koots-admits-to-making-submachine-guns-at-his-seven-hills-home-and-supplying-them-to-bikie-groups/story-fni0cx12-1226760983916?nk=c1720804438b0b9f14802266b41dd806
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/16/australian-police-10-firearms-seized-homemade/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/10/australian-police-seize-homemade-submachine-gun-drug-raid/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/08/05/bill-holmes-homemade-smg-others-spotted-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/16/mp40-found-in-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/21/potd-fp-45-liberator-found-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/08/australian-police-arrest-homemade-pen-gun-supplier/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/04/australian-motorcycle-gang-diy-firearms-surface/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/12/02/51213/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/11/19/home-built-m11-submachine-guns-seized-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/09/05/australian-man-jailed-building-selling-derringer-type-pistols/
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>>61237200

I'd hate to think how inaccurate and prone to malfunction these are.
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>>61237550
No worse than a Sten. Besides, jams are easy to clear.
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>>61228690
In Spain guns are banned, but I would like the people to own some. Corrupt politicians are less likely to be when they know everyone has a gun.
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>>61238617
>Corrupt politicians are less likely to be when they know everyone has a gun.
>Spanish guy just laid out the reason for the 2a for everyone.

Thank you anon.
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>>61229531

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Oklahomo here. Took me 5 mins to buy a long rifle. All they needed was Id and that's it. Could've been a felon for all they knew
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>>61228607
>higher priority on the amount of bullets each clip can hold
>clip
You better not mean magazines.
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>>61239032
Yeah nah.

The reason they took your ID? To do the FBI background check.

>tfw an Aussie knows more about US law than you do...
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>>61238724
You are welcome
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>>61239169
That makes no sense you Australian shitposter. Of course they looked at my Id you twat. They needed to have the gun registered under my name. You literally know nothing about guns or gun laws cause everything down to rubber band guns are banned in your god forsaken country.
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>>61228607
MANDATORY knowledge of things before you're allowed to have an opinion or vote on the matter.

>clips

Kill urself OP
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As an American who has never used a gun before, these threads have convinced me to go and get trained in how to, and get a CC. I just googled the nearest place to learn, and bought some coirses next weekend. If that was your purpose, good going. I hope not though because fuck you thats why.
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>>61235698
>36 caliber handgun

lol stephanopolous is so dumb
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>thread is 4 hours old
>49 posters
>knowing you have to do this when most US posters are asleep
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>>61236437
>multinational corporations and "trickle down economics" raping our working class of the value of their labor and the dignity of their country.
>>61236734
>Enforce current background checks better
>Ban gun show loophole
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>>61239457
I got a .22 single shot, yew lets massacre everyone!
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>>61239457
You must be retarded. You should slap your mother for dropping you on your head as a baby.
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>>61239457
You don't register shit unless you're in Commiefornia or Illinois...they looking at your ID for the background check
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>>61228607
we kill all white people, then the only people dying to guns will be niggers shot by other niggers rather than decent humans being slaughtered by one beta white guy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyQDQPEsrs
Thread invalidated.
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>>61239739
Are*
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>>61239549
>American
>sleeping

LOW ENERGY THREE DAYS HERE
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>>61239169
You are right of course. These posters are either lying, or, they believed the government when they were told--

>Here just provide your name, license, ID, and write it down here all of it for us, and of course we are not going to register this gun!!

>Here serial number right here, of course it's not registration!!
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>>61228607
>>61228690
>>61229531
> What can we do to successfully contain/eliminate the abuse of guns and the amount of guns
Hello Reddit. There's no need to contain/eliminate the amount of guns. I'll start dumping all firearms related research for you to take back to Reddit and get promptly banned for sharing facts not appreciated by the Central Party aparatchiks.
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>>61228607
>>MANDATORY mental health evaluations signed off by a doctor prior to purchasing a firearm.

http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm
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39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

God goy OP
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Since there is no correlation between firearm ownership/legality and rates of violent victimization, the only valid concern related to delimiting firearm possession, is the issue of human rights to self-defense. There IS a correlation between the disarmament of a population, and the incidence of genocide, for example. If you try to disarm or restrict the public's ability to defend itself, you are advocating human rights abuses.
> the right to self-defense is a fundamental human right
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>>61240810
How many times did he actually stab him?
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>>61228607
Take them away from non-whites, problem mostly solved.
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>>61241352
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>>61241352
the struggle is real
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>>61240908
Thanks for that one. Dont forget:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
http://warincontext.org/2013/05/12/abuse-of-psychiatry-in-the-u-s-far-more-extensive-than-occured-in-the-soviet-union/
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Only total pussies hate or fear guns.

I own around 12 guns and everyone in my neighborhood is armed as fuck. Meanwhile we are the safest country in Europe.

Anti-gunners BTFO.
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>>61241547
your chart says that cops kill too many whites and not enough blacks lol
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>>61242317
>Based Swiss.
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>>61228690
Noguns Australia here, never really needed a gun desu. Don't even lock my door at night because nobody is going to break in. Leave my keys in the ignition of my car, even when I park at the shops. Nobdody's shit ever gets broken into or stolen.

But I have 9 guns anyway because they're good fun. 1 of them is there for pest control as I often have to deal with feral dogs. The others are just sport guns or range toys, I don't need any of them but I like having them. One day I might need them, and if I never do, I get to enjoy them. One of them even uses super-scary assault clipazines but it's a manual repeater so it basically just a novelty item here, handy at the range to only have to load up a magazine once every 30 rounds instead of every 10.

Living in a safe community just means I get to enjoy my chosen hobby in peace. I just wish my government would relax our strict restrictions on semi-automatic rifles/shotguns, I'd love some of them.

tl;dr I live in a country where I don't "need" guns, but I have them anyway because I'm not hurting anyone and they're good fun.
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