Post your maps
Florida has no chance of going blue. I don't know why people keep making this mistake again and again. The entire state legislature is Republican and Jacksonville just got rid of its Democrat mayor after his first and only term.
DNC is done in Florida.
Blue collar whites are going to be the big story of this election.
You don't understand. All the important areas are Republican as fuck now, and the state legislature has a Republican super-majority.
This is a state that was hard blue 30 years ago.
This is what I've had since September, except for replacing Trump's VP a few times. I think it's still pretty good.
Three way race between Trump, Sanders, and Webb.
Why do you people think Trump can carry NY? Any homestate advantage he would have there is cancelled out if Clinton gets the nomination.
The only way these states would go red is if you had a landslide like with Reagan in the 80s, if Sanders managed to win Ohio, Virginia, AND Florida, then there's no reason these far more liberal states wouldn't support him.
Most reasonable map posted so far.
Trump/Giuliani would win it for sure, but I would say Trump has a shot at least (he's said he's going to turn it red). Trump's biggest support is in upstate New York and he's going to bring out tons of white working class voters, especially in the rust belt. He's unlike any other republican in that he's quite moderate aside from immigration.
t. Niagara Falls resident
(R) needs to win Florida, that being said Jeb has a strong foothold there because of the spics. if Jeb loses the Primary the republishits are fucked.
>PA not red
does anybody even read RCP polling before making these things?
Trumps been beating hillary there for a while, probably because we all fucking hate her
>and this is before a muslim shot a cop in philly last week
i don't even know what this webm is of since it doesn't show previews in my file select screen for webms but i'm sure it's applicable
I'm predicting some pretty serious damage to Democrat's black vote. Something tells me Trump will talk about the failure of what is basically a one-party system in the cities and that black people need to do better with how their deals.
He may win everywhere in NY but the city, but that means he loses the state. NYC pulls the entire state. 8 million vs some upstate rednecks. No, NY is lost to Trump. If you can't win the City you can't win the state.
This is being generous to Hillary.
>democrats don't like her
>will probably not vote or write in bernie
>republicans hate her
>trump's rallies are unrivaled in any campaign history
It's close, but Hillary can only go down. They more people see of her, the less they like her.
Ohio is not going to be blue.
I'm able to walk around on campus wearing Trump apparel, and I'm praised often and never accosted, and you think it's going to go blue? When fucking college students like Trump?
Hell, our school even staged a play where Martin Luther King Jr. was played by a white guy, and nobody on campus gave a shit about the 'whitewashing' claims from others.
people in NYC love trump and despise the clintons. It is entirly possible that Trump could win NY.
Him coming off as racist isn't really that big of a deal because a lot of the Democrats in NYC are racist on the inside anyway.
we hate hillary, she is a corrupt piece of shit.
the city is 8 mil, its suburbs are 1 mil and upstate is 10 mil. He will probably get the vast majority of upstate and large chunks of NYC, maybe even winning 1 or two bouroghs. That would be enough to win.
>Donald Trump can win New York
>Trump: I'm going to win New Jersey, PA, NY
>MSNBC host Chris Matthews: Pensylvania is in play, lots of Reagan Democrats waiting to vote Trump
Every state has a number of votes equal to their senators (they always get at least two) and congressmen. Meaning the least popular states get 3, and the big ones get like 30 or 40 (california, texas and new york).
To win all of the electors you need 50%+1 of the vote of the state. I believe New Hampshire and Nevada are exceptions for that. In order to win the presidency you need to win a plurality (270) total electoral votes among all the states.
This system ensures that a candidate popular in just one region can't dominate despite being hated by all the others. Imagine a candidate that represented California and the west coast, promising to ass fuck everyone else. He gets 100% of the votes from California and just 30% everywhere else, he would be president in a popular vote system. Whether you win 51% or 99% you get the same electoral votes from each state. This forces candidates to appeal to as broad a region as possible to ensure the country is being adequately represented.
It's complicated. If you don't understand our election system, it's okay. It's super fucked up. Here are some short videos to explain how it all works:
>HOW THE ELECTION WORKS:
>HOW PRE-ELECTIONS (PRIMARIES) WORK:
For some extra information, you might also want to watch these videos:
>EXPLAINATION OF WHY THE SYSTEM IS SO FUCKED UP:
>WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S A TIE:
His largest rally ever was 25,000 (Trumps largest was 30,000) in the most liberal city in the country
But wherever Trump goes he pulls in 3-10k and beyond, while sanders average is closer to 1500
Didn't want to be too one sided for Trump so I threw comrade Hernie a couple bones.
Real talk though as a Pennsylvanian, our dem voters are mostly muh jobs types. The 20% of democrats swinging for Trump that you hear about? Those are the sorts of blue voters we have in PA. And like >>61217307
says, an akbar tried to murder a cop a few days ago and Philly's new mayor was keeping it hush hush claiming it was just regular ol' crime but now it's being investigated as terrorism. The gun used was a stolen cop's gun so they couldn't even roll out the usual "common sense gun control bullshit."
Republicans win all fifty states. He's too extreme for most democrats. Trump will win blue-collar states. Everyone else will have a heart attack over his policies and rush to vote Republican.
The only place where he's taken seriously is on Reddit, so that should tell you a lot.
It is going to be the exact same thing this time that it was last time.
Only possible exceptions are Florida going red if Rubio, Cruz, or Bush are the nominee (zero% chance of it going red with Trump), Ohio and New Hampshire.
Which means at BEST Republicans get 257 and Democrats still win at 281.
I know NV isn't going to be blue, Las Vegas might be but that's one fucking district. Most of NV is tired of California liberals and their stupid laws. Sadly being in Commiefornia I know we are going to be blue however its going to be a much closer fight due to the fact that a lot of conservative has had enough of the commie bullshit going on in this state.
>comparing god emperor to
>a fucking mormon
Clinton is slipping big time. She was supposed to have a cakewalk against Bernie, but it is slowly turning into a dogfight. Trump will absolutely embarrass her and make her look silly in the debates. If Trump campaigns heavily on bringing back and creating jobs he will take the rust belt. Trump is going to steal the blue collar democrat vote. Also I'm not buying the VA is a blue state meme. It's a swing state and Trump should take it.
Tom Wolf is universally hated right now for his raise on sales tax and bs changes with property tax/school districts debt
>im cutting your property tax
>but only if your school district is debt free
>which is nobody lol!
>enjoy your 7.5% sales tax!
>hey allentown, you want syrians? no? well too bad faggots lmao!
No man. I could throw insults and ask you to count your chromosomes, but I won't.
Trump is vilified in NYC.
Outside of NYC in NYS they love him, but NYC makes up majority of the population and they will, unfortunately, 100% vote Dem.
It doesn't matter that it's his home state.
nigga please. If anything, New York will have a greater turn out in Democrat votes than it had in 2012.
The most realistic map desu.
Personally I'm skeptical of NV and FL going Red, but it is conceivable.
>Trump is hated by most women, blacks, jews, mexicans, arabs, and liberal whites
>Only people voting for him are right leaning whites
>The Republican part is considering a brokered election to stop Trump from even running
Zero way Trump EVER wins this.
Florida will probably go red imo
I do not know enough about Virginia but I know it swings
Ohio swings, its easily possible considering its chock full of Trump's main demographic.
He could actually win NY, but doesn't need it to win unless he doesn't get every other state I listed.
he doesn't need it, but its a near garunteed win if he gets it. It is entirely possible he will get it as well.
Yeah, and more locally, the noose is tightening around Allentown's mayor Ed Pawlowski.
Democrats are having a hard time lately in PA.
I dont know, Bernie is fucking EVERYwhere online and I see my liberal friends always posting his shit. Then again, they are college students or recent grads for the most part.
I wish I lived in real America again to bask in the warmth of Trump but Im in San Diego, which is historically actually conservative but with so many Cali hipsters most of us have to be in the closet about.
>Hillary can do that
she really can't though
not to mention shes isolated
>all southern states by repeatedly shitting on them
>any chance of turning republican voters
>anyone who knows her history of scandal and criminal activity
>any active servicemen or vets after benghazi
>anyone who knows the long term negative effects of her husbands presidency
>most males, but especially minorities who don't want a crusty white bitch in charge
>most woman once its exposed that she has a history of defending male pedos and rapists and "victim blaming"
she pretty much has no shot once the actual general election mudslinging starts
>I dont know, Bernie is fucking EVERYwhere online and I see my liberal friends always posting his shit.
Exactly, online. Do you remember 2008 and 2012 with Ron Paul? The demographic Sanders has is the one that does not turn out to vote.
That was Obama vs Romney though. Nobody really liked Romney, much like nobody really likes Clinton. There's an excellent chance Florida will go red this time, as well as Pennsylvania. Trump may even manage to win New York, considering he has the home field advantage there.
every woman i've spoken to has said she would vote hillary and it was litteraly because of muh vagina. Woman vote overwhelmingly left and i can only see them going further left when its for one of their own. Woman's suffrage was a mistake
What worries me is DUDE WEED. They haven't talked about it in a debate yet (except for Christie blabbing about how he'll imprison anyone smoking it) but I think Trump would be level-headed enough to say he'd legalize it and tax it. I think that could be a big determining factor in some swing states
This, so tired of people buying the "Florida is a blue state" meme.
Obama barely even won the state in 2012, it took like two days after the election to call the state.
Donald Trump vs Bernie Sanders (Hillary got convicted)
Reading has also been caught up in some corruption scandals... And Philly, too.
Corruption-buster FBI is my favorite version of the FBI
CO has turned considerably blue as of late. TX is getting the blue tide in the form of CA expats.
>Trump tied in PA with Hillary according to last RCP poll
>Muslim shot a cop last week in philly
>thinks this won't push him over the edge
nigger, how fucking dumb are you?
He said he wants to cut welfare and deport illegals. No immigrant is voting for someone who wants to kick their family out, and no black is voting for someone whos taking their gubment money away.
Women are short sighted, they're going to vote Hillary (because she has a vagina) or Bernie (Because he is the most empathetic)
Romney was beating Obama in Florida, then got destroyed. Minorities don't give a fuck about polling and they're definitely deciding Florida.
I don't get why you people keep saying Florida is going red. Spics are going to come flying out of the swamps to vote for anyone not Trump. No one is voting for someone whos sending their family away.
and NOBODY outside of rightleaning whites likes Trump.
IIRC Trump has already said he doesnt care and wants the states to decide for recreational use themselves (mah Texas dick is erect for that) and he is FOR medical mary jizzaine
>you triple nigger
lol calm down you. if you're going to be this edgy you could bother to check your facts.
He was born in New York, raised in New York and went to school and college in New York.
Later on he went to the University of Chicago and eventually ended up moving to Vermont.
But his hometown is the city of New York.
I hope they make this an issue in debates then. That stance is perfect to get the WEED votes but retain the stubborn boomers who don't want it legalized in their state.
This. PA is full of college students too...which due to Wolf refusing to budge on his plan to increase taxes, caused the state budget to get delayed for months, and led to college kids not getting state grants for months after they were supposed to.
He pretty much neutralized any good will from uni kids since they had to sweat bullets about getting their "free money" thanks to him. Wolf was a blessing in disguise to give us Trump. I hope Emperor Trump recognizes PA's sacrifice in electing this cuck.
>claims a state that literally got 50.01% demo has no chance of turning blue
idk, I know a lot of people from New York and nearly all of them are Bernie supporters. Not one guy I know from there likes Trump.
Of course this is all anecdotal, we're just speaking from our own observations.
But I personally don't believe that New York which has a history of heavily voting for the Democrats is going to vote for Trump just because he is a New Yorker.
Being from the city of New York doesn't really carry much value... the whole city is filled with immigrants and most people living in New York don't even consider their hometown to be NYC.
I'm a Floridian spic and I'm voting Trump. Besides, most spics in Florda are either Puerto Rican, who are US citizens from birth and have no fear of being deported, or Cubans, or are generally right-leaning anyway.
The states Trump needs are Florida, NH, and Ohio + 1. Something like VA or NV. Not happening
>implying there aren't legal spics
>implying they arent going to use the "I'm 10 and trump is sending my mommy to mexico" card to draw away whites
I'll never get why you idiots keep putting NH blue. There's no way in hell that NH will be blue this election. With the fucking liberal loon women governor we've had for the past few years no one is going to vote for a liberal loon women president.
I love this epic meme of people thinking MINORITIES will override the MAJORITY in a poll
1 is bigger than 9 amirite guys! xD
If they had the deciding vote, then they're no longer a minority are they they're the majority
>implying Shilldog is going to get anywhere near Obama levels of turnout among blacks
NO FUCKING CHANCE OF GOING BLUE
N O F U C K I N G C H A N C E
I think what a fascinating is the lack of new blood among democrats. You've got hillary and bernie who are ancient. Where are the young up and coming democrats? Even Elizabeth Warren is old for that.
Say what you will but there are dozens of Republicans in leadership positions of every stripe and it's easy to imagine many of them leading the country and the party. And Republicans have a tradition of going with runner ups in later elections. Who is after hillary or bernie?
I am from NY (near NYC)
how young are they, that is extremely relevant.
also you overestimate how much the city controls the rest of NY. the upstate is ~10 mil that is overwhelmingly conservative except for Albany and Buffalo which have low populations. Trump doesn't have to close that big of a gap in order to win, and his prestige around NYC is pretty big.
Its not a hometown thing its related to what he is.
>white have lower turnout than minorities
dude....what are you smoking?
The only reason they came out the last two elections was because of obongo, they don't give 2 shits about shillary
minorities and young people are the least reliable voting groups in history
But they literally don't. Her own "people" bashed her for that abuela shit.
That's why this year is different. With Syrian """refugees,""" Mizzou, the Philly shooting, the Iran deal plus the ship incident, whites are getting tired of it.
Well then the question is not if minority this or that will vote more, but if any candidate will bring a higher turnout
Considering Trump is on TV all day everyday and on the internet so much there are apps to block any mention of him, along with huge rallies, I'm leaning on a higher turnout
I live in Oregon. Portland is basically brain dead liberal, the rest of the state (except Eugene) is basically republican. Portland outvotes everyone else though. Kinda bullshit because Portland is retarded. Also I live in Portland and am voting for Trump. I see a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker on a Prius at least twice a day.
Which is what is hilarious because sanders, who is about as controlled as oppositions you can find is going to give hillary a serious race.
This should be the time for new blood democrats as the next generation to show up and get their name out there. But hillary may have poisoned the well on the crop because of her selfish desire for power.
2020 and 2024 democrats are going to struggle getting name recognition when republicans have a tidal wave of names to throw up.
Unless Shilldog can replace the low black turnout with high Hispanic turnout and convince them to vote Dem I don't see it turning blue Tbh.
Black turnout was actually the highest it has ever EVER been and they voted 93% Dem. They couldn't dream of that with any other demographic.
>Trump has largest rallys in the history of US politics
>beating hillary nationally in multiple polls
>turning moderates and minorities more than any republican since reagan
>n-no guys, you're all delusional
kek, gr8 argument m8
Most of them are working people in their 20s and 30s.
I understand that upstate New York is more conservative than the city... and that upstate New York accounts for 10mil of the population.
But back in 2012 and 2008, 63% of NY voted Democrat and I don't see how any Republican candidate is going to take NY back in 2016. Could you see the people voting Obama in 2012 swinging to Trump in 2016?
Forgot the image I was going to post.
who should trump's vp be? i think pic related, he dosent mince any words, has been known to be controversial, and would fit in well with him
my fucking sides
terribly poor argument
first, the latest election was 2014 which republicans performed exceptionally well
second, try educating yourself about the types of "minorities" in FL and who they vote for. not nearly as simple as your making it out to be
It's like you don't even know what's going on in the country
Which is not surprising you're a white faggot on a anime image board, you're about as disconnected from reality as it gets
The more people see Clinton the less they like her. She already having problems against a socialist jew. Trump has been knocking down every Republican candidate like nothing. Once he focuses on Clinton it's over for her.
Reminder that Hillary is the media's little starlet.
>the latest election was 2014 when no one went out to vote except old retired white people who have nothing better to do than go out and vote for pointless elections
>the republicans performed well
wow, so surprising
people don't have to swing they just don't have to vote.
the only reason NY was won by that much was because there was a low turnout of whites and the highest black turnout ever. Trump actually just needs to get people in upstate to fucking vote at all to win.
what jobs were they working.
>posts image containing one of the polls trump has won
lol, congrats you're autistic
>average 1.8 point lead
>average MOE> 2 points
Do you really think hillary won't be destroyed by trump in a debate? She has been steadily losing ground while running against nice guy Sanders of all people. Whenever she talks it's pretty clear she's a dishonest insufferable power hungry cunt. With all the skeletons in her closet trump will tear her apart.
>2016 pits incumbent democrats who have a choice between a corrupt as fuck grandma and a delusional socialist jew who is just as old.
>thinking either of these options is going to motivate minority voters who have endured the brunt of the slow recovery and lack a minority candidate to want to vote for.
>frothing at the mouth republicans who despise everything hillary and would cut off their own dick to beat her ass on election day.
>post shows clear trend against clinton
>hey guiz clintons winning LAMO!!!
try harder. trump only falls when he says extreme controversial shit then always rebounds.
clinton has been in a slow, agonizing decline that will finally climax when the progressive wing doesn't come out to vote when bernie loses
And that's your opinion. There is more at stake for black people ever before. Unless you don't think BLM is real. You may think police brutality is a non-issue, but assuming blacks won't go out and vote in the only election they go out and vote for (presidential) you're delusional. You can cry about it all you want but it'S (use apostrophes autist) true.
>implying they like Trump
>implying they aren't far more credible than CNN, which is practically owned by clinton
kek this shill is hillarious
>Trump can't even handle boring republican candidates like jeb in debates
The only reason Clinton isn't getting destroyed is because Bernie isn't even trying to. She has so many fucking weakness ripe for the picking Put someone like Trump against Hillary and it'll be so one-sided the end-result won't even be funny.
Admittedly Bernie would put up a better fight than Clinton at least.
All that would be true if there was a candidate on the Democrats side who could make that case to black people. But do you think Hillary can do that? Do you think blacks are going to listen to Bernie Sanders wrinkly ass when he talks about his socialist nonsense?
I doubt it, blacks vote in a tribal way and they just won't see Hillary and Sanders the same way they saw Obama.
I've seen all of them, Trump is a terrible orator and comes off as uneducated, which he is. Jeb absolutely wrecked him on muslims, and trump just recoiled like a little bitch. It was hysterical
>All these maps making New Hampshire blue
you stop that
Because we are the most populous state.
Also, fuck you, not everyone here is a lib.
People who get redpilled here get redpiled HARD.
>Trump can't even handle boring republican candidates like jeb in debates
Have you watched any of the debates?
EVen if you don't like Trump his stumping of Bush has been the best political television in decades.
There's no way Mass and Maryland is going red.
Colorado, Wisco, Minnesota, Ohio, and Florida will be battleground states.
Florida being its whole mexico issue. Its just a matter if they come out or the rednecks.
And Ohio...well that's the only time when anyone cares about them. They're going to milk it for all its worth.
There is a certain possibility, especially after that vicious stumping of Cruz. The more they bring up 9/11 the better it gets.
However, Sanders would most likely take JewYork.
shillary is crossing trump more and more often, while continuously being under LESS scrutiny than trump is
wait until the attack ads start and the progressive base loses moral after sander's loss
They already are listening, to both of them idiot. trayvon's mom endorsed clinton, and a bunch of other blacks endorsed bernie.
Do you even remember that embarrassing attempt to garner black votes that trump went through a few months ago with all the pastors? It was pathetic.
>blacks will all vote for hillary
lmao, this delusion is hilarious
>made a couple comments on twitter and off topic remarks at debates
If she ends up being the Nominee you will see Jeb level stumpenings
>your husband is a rapist and you enabled him and defend rapists in court
>how many investigations are you under right now?
>sell any uranium to russia lately?
>get any of our diplomats killed for your personal gain?
I remember BLM totally controlling a Bernie rally and creating great reaction images. I remember the stupidity of the whole BLM question causing visible cringe among the candidates during debates. Because you're asking hillary and Bernie to take sides and piss either blacks or the silent majority off.
I remember BLM hammering at Rahm Emanuels job trying to get him to resign. They're out of control and are just a group having a temper tantrum.
Blacks do what the media tells them, when the media wants a race riot they can have it. But getting them to turn out for people they dont identify with isnt easy. They don't give a shit what trayvon martins mom says, who she endorses. They don't read the news or follow politics.
They cared about Obama because they thought he was one of them. Nobody will make that mistake with hillary.
clinton is suffering the same problem republicans did in '08 and '12, their OWN party isn't excited about their candidate
as republicans know, you can't win an election as a protest vote. you need positive momentum for your candidate and shillary has absolutely zero while still averaging only 3pts away from trump. wait until the dem primaries get brutal and sanders eventually loses. without the progressive wing positive hype, shillary is dead in the water just like mittins in '12
He'll be the frontrunner should Hillary get indicted.
While its not prohibited being president with a felony record, it certainly doesn't look good.
They sometimes are. Problem is the demographics Bernie supporters have notoriously low voter turnout rate.
Hillary has most of the "unofficial" super delegate pledges. That means Bernie would have to win some 80% of the primary vote. Something I seriously doubt will happen
Has a movie been made about trumps bankruptcies?
Deal with it faggot, GOP/Trump are trying so hard to smear clinton they had to make a fucking terrible movie full of lies to try and brainwash the sheep.
>bernie endorsing clinton
holy shit my sides
this nomination will make clinton look like a bigger flip than she already does
>hardcore leftists shill in primary
>suddenly moderate angel in general
meanwhile trump can spew any racist rhetoric he wants and still have a chance against hillary. sanders won't fix the problem either, although it more or less depends how bloody the democratic primary becomes. with any luck, sanders puts up a fight like obama
Tom Wolf is a fuck. Just another reason I left PA for TX.
Here's the rundown:
PA LOVES gun rights, despite being blue. Obama lying about not coming after guns, then coming after guns, is not going to sit well with them. Blue collar workers sick of PC culture and gun grabs go for the R ticket.
VA and NC--military states. Dems have thrown the military under the bus. Especially if Bernie is the nominee, they will both go red.
Old voters in FL are sick of societal decay coming to the forefront.The democrats they voted for in the 60s are long dead, and that is more apparent than ever.
Iowa--middle America has had enough of the great liberal experiment. Goes red, no doubt.
CO--social rights issues will fall by the wayside this election. CO has it's pot and gay marriage--militant liberal hippies and potheads have no reason to show up. Landslide R.
>he thinks bernies supporters would rather not vote and see trump win
It's funny benghazi is now the safe thing to try and talk about with hillarys scandals. You'd think talking about a blunder of security that got a u.s. ambassador and his security detail murdered would be a bad thing.
But with the revelations about her private email server that's actually the dog wagging part. What Benghazi revealed was staggering incompetence and a disregard for handling of classified material.
Hillary will be lucky to avoid jail, shill.
That cartoon may be Garrisons best work to date
That face gets me everytime
Jeb should be given his own little turtle garden to tend to on the white house grounds and can come to hug victims of national tragedies and soothe their pain
This will be the result. Mark my words.
I live in New York and it's clear that you don't understand what the situation is.
Upstate New York is solidly Republican and we get fucked because of the City. New York has a history of electing moderate Republicans to statewide offices in the right circumstances. Alfonse DiAmato and George Pataki for example.
This is one of those circumstances, Trump will win upstate big and he will have strong support from the blue collar working class in the City. He lives in Manhatten and has done a lot of deal there so he will get a lot more support from the City than most would.
The other thing to remember is that most New Yorkers don't like Hillary very much. Rick Lazio was competitive in the senate seat she won until he screwed up a debate and come off as overbearing and strident.
I believe that New York will go red for the first time in many years.
>haha, hillarys scandals aren't scandals if we call them not scandals!
>it's like she is Obama with a vagina!
>hillary is killing bernie in every single fucking poll
>trump isn't campaigning against her right now
learn to use logic faggot. bernie is just as irrelevant as your gay ass opinion, no one cares fag
Well yea... they're close because clinton has been getting smeared for years. Those "scandals" will fade in the minds of people the more it's propagated by the conservative MSM. The stupid shit trumps constantly says won't go away.
The whole election will be fixed and Hilary will win no matter what. Trump has been purposely put in place to be liked so he can take all the right wing voters attention. In 2008 Hilary was bashing the shit out of Obama, and then they had both attended the Bilderberg meeting and Hilary mysteriously stepped down. This is because she was promised to win in 2016 after Obama's reign.
I don't even care about benghazi. Hillary Clinton housed top secret information on a woefully unprotected server easily accessible by foreign governments. For years.
She either did that because she's staggeringly incompetent or was doing it on purpose as a way to get those foreign governments to pony up sizeable donations to the Clinton foundation.
Which do you think is more likely?
>Jeb should be given his own little turtle garden
>destabilizing a nation because of it's leaders economic plans
>gun running on foreign soil
>getting diplomats killed
>lying to the American people
>haha not even a big deal lol
Let me guess, the clintons never did nuffin wrong, right?
It doesn't matter how many woman Bill raped that she smeared
or how many kids Bill molested with Epstein
or the whitewater scandal
or her being kicked off the watergate case
or her defending pedophiles, and blaming a 12 year old girl for being raped so viscously she went into a coma and could never have children
or all the money they took from the saudis after bill bombed their enemies
or the fact she spoke out against gay marriage not 10 years ago
yeah no, im sure NO ONE will care about any of that once its being played on repeat attack ads
They found keyhole satellite photographs of North Korean nuclear testing facilities on her server.
Which classification of secrecy do you think that should fall under?
I know you're being paid for this by the way, I just want you to earn your money.
and you don't think that trump has been hit just as hard, if not harder than Hillary? he's only been in the game for 7 months at that, plus he's still considered a joke by tons of regular people
you don't think that once he gets a nomination he could be viewed more legitimately? or that clinton clearly has momentum issues? I'm not saying trump is going to win general, but this race is far to close to count either candidate out. a serious flub or two before the election could call this one
You turn it red by having a better candidate than Romney. It was already extremely close in 2016. Obama was likable and Romney wasn't. It'll be the complete opposite in 2016. >>61219788
>if it's not marked classified that means it wasn't actually top secret.
Hillary was secretary of state. Why are you accusing your boss of being so incompetent she couldn't even tell what was or wasn't top secret?
By the way, not knowing it wasn't classified doesn't mean you didn't commit a felony.
>it was sent with a classified header.
She told her aides to cut them off which is another crime.
>terrorizing the fuck out of this shill
kek hes having a hard time tonight, amirite?
Just because bill used the same weasel arguments to try and say a blow job isn't a sexual act doesn't mean it's not bullshit.
Regardless of classification status, hillary held extremely sensitive documents that would be enormously damaging to the country if in the hands of foreign governments on an unguarded server for years.
>oh look. Nuclear launch codes are just laying on the ground here.
>but if they're not MARKED as top secret that doesn't mean anything. I'll just give these to the north koreans, who cares.
That's how you sound.
>months of negative, skewed trump coverage
hillary does have some in the media against her no doubt. i think you'd be wrong if you said that the vast majority didn't support her
Holy fuck Trump may take a lot of the older black vote on immigration alone. With the younger group they listen to rappers that glorify Trump in their music. Not saying he will have a massive turnout but enough to steal a significant chunk from the Democrats is possible.
Yeah, Miami is going to spell trouble for Florida, Miami-Dade is going to be solid blue. I live near Orlando, the great "I-4 corridor" swing area. I can guarantee that Lake, Seminole, and Polk Counties will be red. Osceola could likely be red too. My biggest worry in this part of the state is Orange County where Orlando is situated here, a lot of the politicians here are democrats and this is the one county that might remain blue or go red.
address any of my points you fucking shill
The woman votes shes relying on probably won't be to gungho to vote for a rapist defending gay basher lol
Is hillary not receiving classified information on her private server because nothing was marked classified the same as Bill Clinton never having sexual relations with Monica because Washington DC doesn't consider a blow job sex?
>being hyped up for a year
Lel. Meanwhile the media has been smearing Trump since day one. Hillary hasn't had to herself yet because the media is doing it all for her. And guess what? He's only getting stronger.
You're not even doing a good job of responding to what I'm saying. You really need to tell your managers to give you a better shill script.
Of course I know how hard it is to defend hillary when she has this much dirt on her.
That doesn't mean they were classified at the time... I wish I had time to teach you about OPSEC. But I simply don't care enough, and you're so comically uneducated on this, it's too entertaining.
This line of argument doesn't work when it's been revealed hillary straight up ordered an aide to avoid secured channels of communication and instead remove the security status to get it quicker.
She didn't have thousands of classified emails.
You can't be brought up on charges for mishandling classified material for things that are retroactively marked classified. I really don't feel like giving you an OPSEC class