I've noticed lots of imperial and metric shit posting lately.
Let's end this discussion once and for all!
It doesn't matter. It wouldn't even matter if feet, pounds, and fluid ounces were actually better at this point. The benefits with compatibility would outweigh that by this point.
>put a man on the moon
>NASA lost a $125 million Mars orbiter because a Lockheed Martin engineering team used English units of measurement while the agency's team used the more conventional metric system for a key spacecraft operation, according to a review finding released Thursday.
If divisibility by ten is so important than why hasn't Europe switched to metric clocks?
I don't give a shit about metric
What we should do is redesign the imperial with base 10. 10 inches to a foot, inches are divided into 10ths.
Tired of dealing with fractions, tired of dealing with fractions in 4 different denominators, tired of writing fractions that take up so much space on paper, and tired memorizing every multiple of 12. Fuck
Canada is like 80% imperial. We state our height in feet and inches, our weight in pounds, buy drinks in ounces and pints, the only thing is on paper we are officially metric so you see packaging in grams and litres. The only thing I can think of that pretty much all Canadians use metric for is weather and distances.
It's irrelevant now with smart phones. There is no reason to change anymore.
As for why we never changed over to metric one reason is to protect American patents by having them written out in imperials. It's not as much about actually protecting patents in this instance because conversion is so easy but about people in charge that THINK it protects patents.
you know it would be easier to switch to metric.
Imagine the mess it would be if you change now the value of the units in the imperial system. Nobody will know if you are referring to the previous value or the actual,
What the hell is wrong with your flag there bro? You aren't some sort of commie are you?
Who gives a fuck about the boiling and freezing temperature of water? If you use Fahrenheit, a very hot day is 100 degrees, a very cold day is 0 degrees, a warm day is 70 degrees, a cold day is 30 degrees. Average temperature for temperate climates is 50 degrees.
Imperial is more personable. Below zero Celsius is winter. Below zero Fahrenheit is happenings, or at least, it's fucking cold.
Standard is better for everyday measurements
Even Fahrenheit is better for regular temperature taking. In the US, the average temperature for the year is generally ~50 degrees.
Also for posterity
1 pica = 12 points
1 inch = 4 pica
1 hand = 4 inches
1 link = 1.92 inches or 33/50 feet
1 foot = 3 hands
1 yard = 3 feet
1 rod = 25 links
1 chain = 4 rods or 22 yards
1 furlong = 10 chains
1 mile = 8 furlongs
1 league = 3 miles
1 minim = 0.95 grain of water
1 scruple = 20 minims
1 fl drahm = 3 scruples
1 teaspoon = 4 scruple
1 tablespoon = 3 teaspoons
1 fl ounce = 2 tablespoons
1 shot = 3 tablespoons
1 gill = 4 fl ounces
1 cup = 2 gill
1 pin = 2 cups
1 quart = 2 pints
1 gallon = 4 quarts
1 firkin = 9 gallons
1 kilderkin = 2 firkins
1 barrel = 2 kilderkins
1 hogshead = 3 kilderkins
1 puncheon = 2 barrels
1 butt = 2 hogshead
1 tun = 2 butts
1 grain = 1/7000 pounds
1 drahm = 1/256 pounds
1 ounce = 16 drahms
1 pound = 16 ounces
1 hundredweight = 100 pounds
1 long hundredweight = 112 pounds
1 ton = 20 hundredweights
1 long ton = 20 long hundredweights
it's more like, scientifically we're metric, colloquially we're imperial.
After all, who wants to go to the bar and have themselves a .47th of a litre, or brag that they're a towering 168cm?
Metric is the "better" system, it's easy to learn and makes more sense but why abandon our culture and adopt some lame foreign one just for the sake of simplicity?
>NASA was responsible for the math behind the space race
You have Isaac Newton, Johannes Kepler and Wernher Von Braun to thank for that among others. All America did was provide the money and the manpower, essentially NASA and the USA was nothing but a production facility.
Hell, it was the Russian Federation that won the space race in every area except for being the first to Orbit and Land on the Moon. They fell at the final hurdle ;_;
I wonder how different the World would be if the CCCP where the first to land on the moon, and they should have been in hindsight.
Hell, they'd probably still be around!
Tell me this, Europe--if the metric system is so great, then why do you still use:
60 second "minutes"
60 minute "hours"
24 hour "days"
7 day "weeks"
28,30, or 31 day "months"
365 (or 366!) day "years"
Seems pretty arbitrary and hypocritical to me.
Germans might be happy giving up their history and culture like your currency, your monarchy, your religion and soon your white skin but the rest of the world isn't as cucked as you.
Metric sucks for easily dividing stuff in your head quickly unless it is by 2, 5, 10, etc. Imperial units allow more flexibility in quickly dividing units. A foot is easily divided by 2, 3, 4, 6, 12 into inches. For the the thing we probably divide most in our daily lives, consider there are 60 minutes in an hour. What is 60? It's the smallest number evenly divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. It is also evenly divisible by 10, 12, 15, 20, 30, and 60. Metric is certainly simpler to learn but it isn't necessarily that useful in regular daily life.
Little cucked union jack, can't even stand a little cold. I can stand 40 degrees above and 40 below you fucking beta cuck.
You can wear a T-shirt and shorts at -10 assuming there is no wind chill.
The sun rises 365 times by the time the earth makes one revolution around the sun, it was not a random choice.
Because the time is merely a human concept. You can experience a thousand lifetimes if you travel at the speed of light as "time" is relative. You cannot change the distance of an object without affecting it's matter, for it is fixed.
As for the "measurement" of time it's done for convince, worked on since ancient history and Earth's time has been "perfected" by the atomic clock.
UK is very much the same. Metric is clearly the best system to use but I only know my height in feet and inches, weight in stone, drink pints, etc.
So long as we stick to metric for the important shit it doesn't really matter, so long as you doing mind being ripped off in the marketplace occasionally.
one good step is 1 meter
the width of your hand is roughly 10cm ( with thumb)
the nail on your pinky is roughly 1cm
now you can easily measure things if you really need to.
Weight and Volume: people know that a normal glass holds up to 200ml or that a block of butter weights 500g, its stated on the wrap and if you can do basic math, you're good. No need to learn lists of measurements.
If something has the volume of 2l, we say "the volume is 2 liters", not "the volume is 2 tetrapaks" or shit like that.
>And the free market should define those standards not the government
Then you end up with rovers burning up in mars atmosphere and other shit that doesnt match. Standards are important, and nothing that can be defined by the "free market". Capitalism isnt the answer to fucking everything. Every functioning country got state institutions whose only job it is to keep standards up.
>Other common ways of referring to the system in the U.S. are: "Standard", "Customary", or, erroneously: "Imperial", or "English" (which refers to the pre-1824 reform measures used throughout the British Empire).
Read a book, nigger.
>Then you end up with rovers burning up in mars atmosphere and other shit that doesnt match
that has to do with government incompetence
>Every functioning country got state institutions whose only job it is to keep standards up
Name one area where we need to mandate metric
>unironically establishing precise standards which depend on a theoretical distance from the center of the Earth
>being so retarded that you genuinely believe mathematical approximations taken to the 13th decimal place are accurate in any scenario other than the theoretical model in which they were determined
>that has to do with government incompetence
Yes. And their incompetence was to not remove this potential point oft failure by not enforcing a single unit system.
>Name one area where we need to mandate metric
The point isnt that you need to mandate metric. The point is that you need to mandate a single measurement system or people will fuck up. Oft course it would be a good idea to mandate the most logic and functional option...
Obviously thats the governments job.
No, thats retarded. I own a cereal company and decide that from tomorrow i will label its weight in fractions of my body mass. How functional is that? Its retarded. You need a single standard to prevent competition between different systems leading to more errors than necessary. Also there arent many options anyway. There's metric which actually makes sense and gives you something you can effectively use, and there's imperial which is only used because people cant be bothered to change
Simply put, the whole standardized measurement system can be fucked up simply by having a region of increased density inside the core of the Earth moving around unexpectedly.
It doesn't matter which standards you use. They are ALL arbitrary.
>i will label its weight in fractions of my body mass
if people find it confusing they wont buy your product
Also why are you still speaking German when English is the de facto world language ?
Man, who gives a shit? The people in the U.S. that need to know metric (scientists, etc.) know it. For everyone else, the current system works just fine, to the point where it hasn't been a real political issue in forty years.
I will never understand why some Europeans seem to act so damn offended that Americans buy a gallon of gas, or measure their height in feet and inches.
>if people find it confusing they wont buy your product
Or they will get used to it and we end up with a shit ton of different measurement systems which make it almost impossible to do everyday tasks without ridiculous amounts of conversion calculations. Thats what the world was like before imperial units got standardized. How long a foot was depened on the guy that was measuring, each larger town/guild has their own weights... It was terrible.
>Also why are you still speaking German when English is the de facto world language ?
Because there is actually culture attached to language. And it takes more than a day to learn a different language...
Oft course it does. It still doesnt influence our definition of time because we have correction factors for that. Without that GPS wouldnt work for example.
>And it takes more than a day to learn a different language
and you could learn another measuring system in hours
So it makes much more sense to only have one language than one measuring system
stop lying you fucko idk where in the bumfuck middle of nowhere you live but nowhere in civilized canada do people use imperial jesus
>It still doesnt influence our definition of time because we have correction factors for that.
You can't correct for factors that you don't account for.
This is literally why it's absolutely retarded to ship over a calibrated weight set from France to the US to calibrate scales.
The amount of mass may not change, but Earth's gravity isn't the same everywhere on Earth. The calibration weight changes merely by moving to a different spot. This is the definition of arbitrary.
Other way around. Its difficult to learn an other language, and abandoning your mother tongue comes at a very high price. So the motivation and practability are ridiculously low. Learning a new measurement system takes hours, and you loose nothing by abandoning whatever you were using before.
It's a good thing we pay the standardized measurement technicians to hand count atoms at a controlled temperature instead of shipping them around the world with weight sets then.
Wait... We don't.
Most official stuff like public swimming pools is in metris, most home building stores use imperial
Why can't we just use metric though for everything
Oh it's a bout a ""third"" deep (1 foot = about 33% of a metre)
Oh can you grab me that 237 nut please (instead of 9/16")
My TV being ""1350"" instead of 42"
and so on
Germany should be ashamed of itself for abandoning the system invented by based German physicist Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit, for some shit (Celsius) devised by a loser Swedish astronomer.
Yes. We were, which is why I specifically mentioned "a region of increased density inside the core of the Earth moving around unexpectedly"
The standardized measurement system needs CONSTANT upkeep and maintenance.
The point if using a single measurement system is not to spare you the time of learning additional ones but to spare you all the problems that come with using different ones. That it only takes hours to learn whatever your country decided to use as standard only makes it easier to get rid of whatever shit people were using before.
>I would like to buy 1kg of meat
>I would like to buy 5 stones, 20 pounds, 9 ounces and 2 scoops of meat
>Fucking stupid special snowflake tier
Nothing moves around unexpected and rapidly though, the gravity field may significantly change in astronomical timescales, not in months. Besides that we are monitoring it, so we would know when we have to calibrate our equipment New because half of africa suddenly disappeared.
The fuck are you talking about? Meat is sold in pounds and ounces.
If I want less than a pound of meat, I can order in ounces. You're reduced to saying shit like "0.4 kilograms, please."