I mean, really:
-We got our Americans back
-Iran doesn't have Nukes
-Israel can shut the fuck up
-Fuck Saudi Arabia
-Economic opportunity for Iranian people
-foreign investment in the country, which helps us overall
-No war, no conflict
-Not a single trigger pulled.
I'm as anti-Obama as you guys, but you have to give credit when credit's due.
No I like it as well. Great business opportunities just opened up. This is a very good thing. Plus with Saudi trying to keep oil low to hurt Iran it means low energy and gas prices for the foreseeable future.
Yes, I'm sure those booty blasted Republicans remember how well that worked the last time.
The more the west intervenes in the middle east, the worse it gets.
It seems like a good thing but I'm wondering what will happen if a Republican wins the Presidency.
I don't know about Trump, but every other one that isn't isolationist seems hellbent on tearing up the agreement. And this is an agreement that the fucking Revolutionary Guards, controlled directly by the Supreme Leader and not the President, wanted to preserve.
And yeah, fuck Saudi Arabia too.
the money trail from EVERY SINGLE mudslime terrorist attack leads back to Saudi Arabia.
Every fucking time.
It is incomprehensible to me why no one has nuked these assholes, yet.
I get the line of thinking, and I get it was the fault of the US way back for fucking around. However, I feel like people are ignoring Iran is still a country where women are exiled if they are seen without burkas. They still chant "death to America" and shit.
And if anyone thinks giving them that much money and such little oversight will deter them from getting a nuke, then they need to seriously inspect the last century or two of politics and the filthy lessons our nations have taught us. They absolutely will develop them, even if kept secret. That is why this was a failure.
Also, if I recall correctly, the hostages were not in the original deal. That was a point of rage for me. To my understanding, we just did that diplomatically and recently - in exchange for seven Iranians, who I am sure weren't just journalists and such as ours were.
However, I may be misinformed, but we don't seem to be getting a whole lot out of this deal. At all. In any way. They'll get nukes, they will continue to not respect us, and that's the end of it.
Fuck Saudi Arabia anyways, I guess, but shit.
>Am I the only one here that likes the Iran Deal?
you're such a fagot
what will be your next thread?
>Am I the only one here that believes the Jewish conspiracy?
no! you are so redpilled! me too!! :DDDD!!
Shut up, Bibi. Go back to your corner.
I don't give a fuck if they exile women for not wearing burkas. The internal social mores of the country is its own business.
I understand the lack of respect as a problem but it seems like both countries are on the right track with how quickly the marines were released. If anything it seemed like Iran was so afraid of the sanctions remaining that they released them and used "muh apology" as an excuse. Fear of sanctions is good enough for now. Respect can come later, with time perhaps.
women only have to wear head scarfs in Iran. and doesnt even need to cover the whole hair.
source: my sister visited Iran a few years ago
may vary from region to region though dunno
Nice Trips, but the fact even a pleb-tier meme such as that can show the hypocrisy, then that says more about you losers, than me.
>tfw you'll never impregnate your iranian chemistry professor
An alliance with the Persians, rather than the Saudi savages, is without a doubt the better choice in the long run.
The Saudis would be nothing, if it weren't for oil.
Persia was great before the rise of radical islam, and could rise to greatness again. I mean, look at the dedication they've shown during the Iran-Iraq war...
Fair points, but I meant that less as "muh soggy knees" and more "majority Muslim and like to push us to the limits and launch missiles within relatively short distances of our ships."
Anyone who saw the way the IAEA will inspect them under these deals while they already had intent to construct a nuke and is okay with giving them this much money and assume that they will hold good and not get a nuke is a fool. That's why it is bad to me. If it was just "Iranian Diplomacy Deal" it's one thing, and I have some vague hope vying against my cynical heart that they will hold up their end. However, my cynical mind knows they won't, and we'll have just that more many nuclear weapons in our world.
>my meme is true
1)Iran's leaders threatened to annihilate Israel, it's not just Bibi's claim.
2)Israel is not conducting a genocide against Palestinians. If you claim otherwise you should bring proofs.
I didn't say genocide, I talked about hypocrisy and war crimes, mate.
i wonder whats the stance of Rohani against Israel. I know ahmadinedschad was pretty hardcore when it came to bashing jews, but isnt Rohani more moderate when it comes to it. why not give Iran a chance, maybe economic opportunities will give make them overthink to have a hostile stance against Israel. With moderate leaders like Rohani this could even be possible.
As long as Bibi doesnt go full batshit insane against Iran of course and provoces the shit out of them
Fuck off kike.
Just because it says 90% of people killed aren't the target doesn't mean its killing civilians dumb shit.
Say you had a terrorist leader with a group of 9 terrorists in a camp and you send in 4 GBU-44/B Viper Strikes from an MQ-1C Reaper. The intended target is the boss. But you kill 9 other terrorists, there, 90% killed aren't the target.
Even so I still don't support drone strikes as they do kill a certain amount of civvies (way less than 90% tho).
I just think it's weird. Iran has always been the main goal to take out in the middle east... so why make them stronger?
I don't believe for a second that Iran will throw away the opportunity to create their life insurance (nukes).
what war crimes? please name them you liar.
then what is the meaning of "currently wiping palestine of the map"?
your picture is stupid, If they keep on firing rockets, that's their problem.
it was poorly negotiated, we could have got a lot more.
we could have got hostages back at the original deal, in reality they only got them now only cuz of trump's pressure
So now we control sickness/bacteria that killed the poor Indians at first? Or are we to blame for when they attacked and scalped farmers and other civvies at the time just because they wanted to kill us, for getting them sick even though we didn't know better(though they didn't know better either). I mean it's the past but at least we own up to it.
Totally the same thing. Right...
israel is steeped in blood, they basically negotiated with britain to get palestine in return for the US entering the war against germany in WW1, which prolonged the war, made germany lose and set up ww2.
jews arive in palestine, start shit with arabs, fight some "defensive" wars that grab real estate and basically put palestinians in concentration camps known as gaza and west bank
which is all fine, but jews have given as much as they got and are bloody and evil as fuck when it comes down to it
But they still want us dead.
Iran is only doing it for improving their self image.
In reality, Iran has its fingers crossed behind its back and Iran has its own goals and agendas such as funding terrorists groups and stealing sensitive information from western governments.
Only a fool would see Iran as a friend.
>us vs them
>still jumping into to the hegelian dialectic
more could of been done and really, there is no point in making a deal, we dont trust iran, iran has already broken agreements that were made in the deal. we could have and should tell them fuck off and if they dont stop with the bombs then we just cut them off completely we dont need member countries to help we can embargo monetary transactions all by ourselves
Four sisters of the Ali Mohammed Nasser family in Yemen were killed. Afrah was 9 years old when she and her three younger sisters Zayda (7 years old) , Hoda (5 years old) and Sheika (4 years old) were struck by an American drone.
Ibrahim, a 13 year old boy of the Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye family in Yemen was struck by a US drone, together with his younger brother Asmaa (9 years old) and two younger sisters, Salma (4 years old) and Fatima (3 years old)
I've not been paying enough attention to know what's going on but all the Israeli posters are in an absolute fit of rage so whatever happened must greatly benefit the world as a whole.
Hold on, hold on.
I know they filled their other reactor with concrete... BUT
What's stopping them from using their other facilities to combine them all and create a bomb piecemeal at another destination? That's my concern.
>>iran doesn't have nukes
Also the mudslimes don't fucking deserve an economy. We should have obliterated them for kidnapping our citizens. In fact we should have the first time they said they would nuke the west
They are giving up 97% of their uranium and 14,000 of their 20,000 centrifuges.
And with what little was left they did try to cheat, we would catch them before anythig happened. Don't listen to JIDF: >>61205690
a thing I disagree with the god emperor on. He always says it is 'the worst deal ever', but really what's so bad?
No nukes, detracts from chance of ww3, removes sanctions that hurt innocent Iranians, increased relations
It's not clear to me what the US gets out of this deal.
The hard question: Iran WILL get a nuke eventually, barring something drastic like a major US millitary intervention. And I mean major as in not anything like syria, iraq or afghanistan, but bigger than all combined. Should the US intervene or not to prevent that?
Trying to predict ANYTHING that happens in the middle east is fucking crazy..
No. Iran should've yielded far more at the very least. They got everything they wanted and only at their leisure let us have things we ought to have demanded. Neither state has any intention of honoring this past Mr Obama's term.
And as a vet I have no doubt whatsoever that that business with the ten sailors on the night of the SOTU was totally deliberate, given wrong coordinates or something, a safe, pre-arranged crisis which makes less and less sense with time but which is exactly the sort of stuffed animal tea party which a Chris Hayes or a Rachel Maddow would think demonstrates polite diplomacy humiliating outdated military strength.
I'm kind of pissed they get money from us but that's about my only real complaint. If I'm being totally honest I don't even give a fuck if Iran does go nuclear, it's a hell of a lot more stable than Pakistan and them having nukes means Haliburton can't talk congress into a war with them.
American admiting that Obama is not terrible? Am i reading this right? Good on you anon for having a spine and not letting your emotions control you.
they received over 100Billion, they dont have to build anything they can buy it, or they can make a fuckload of small bombs in smaller locations.
light water reactors are easier to make now-a-days
>Level-headed and likely accurate inspection of geopolitics as signaled by recent history
Fuck off, Germany.
>And as a vet
>I have no doubt whatsoever
>that that business with the ten sailors on the night of the SOTU was totally deliberate
Gonna need some proofs beyond "I was a vet, trust me m8s"
>150 billion for nothing
Every time I see people say "Palestinian genocide" I can't help but remember what Palestinians are like.
Executing hundreds of Lebanese Christians...
Breaking the legs of homosexuals...
Makes it pretty hard to cry over a dead kebab to be honest.
Well, /pol/ has yet to come up with a good rational argument regarding the good stats he achieved. You can't expect him to make you not NEET. You have to go outside anons.
Where does this "we're giving them all this money for free" meme come from?
Iran lost $160 billion in oil revenue over the last 4 years from sanctions. It's not coming back overnight.
A further $100 billion in frozen Iranian assets is being released which doesn't mean the US is losing money. It means Iran gets to have its stuff back.
I do, I think it's a net possitive gain to the world even if on the short term this will hurt our economy (and pretty much any other oil exporting country's)
Iran has a lot to give to the world beyond oil, even with sanctions out of their ass they managed to somehow keep a decent system of scientific research alive and in the mid termn were aiming for a space program. Also they seem to be a lot more reasonable than the Saudis.
you should remember to change the filenames of facebook photos before you post them on here, it's really easy to track down profiles
just a word of advice if you don't want to give away the person's identity
Oh you've payed SOME of the cost of ONE submarine from the SEVERAL you've been given?
Iranians are completely redpilled about the jews and actively oppose the jewish aggression worldwide.
Saudi scum is in bed with the zionists, House of Saud = nothing but a bunch of degenerate sabbat goyim since the mid 1970s.
Not a hard choice really.
>Am I the only one here that likes the Iran Deal?
Yes, because you're clearly the only person here who hasn't read it
>Iran has already started making an ICBM with a multi-payload system
>I-it's j-just for satellites guys!
You're not an American get the fuck out of my country
He was born with the wrong skin colour though. Or?
>Oh, it's just giving them BACK the money they lost to sanctions!
So, I get fined for a crime. Go through the courts, lose it, have to pay $10,000 or whatever. Pay fine, do the time.
Are you saying that once I get off probation or whatever, I get that money? That I deserve it back? No, fuck you. Fuck off. They're being needlessly aggressive, and they are clearly going to use that money and lack of oversight to go get a fucking nuke anyways. That's how politics has worked for over a century now. That's Realpolitik. They don't get that money back, we weren't holding it, they were paying the world to not eviscerate them for trying to pull the bullshit we were sanctioning in the first place.
That's why this is a bad deal. Not because we engaged with diplomacy, that's fine. It's that we're giving them more than we can possibly get out of this. Seven presumably important prisoners for five random Americans, billions of dollars for the false presumption of deterrence. That's not deterrence, that isn't how that works. And for damn sure that isn't a good deal.
Wow, I sure do love these opinions and single-sourced figures in an infographic coming from someone who doesn't live in this county day-to-day telling me that the guy that's presided over an incredible decline and astronomic growth of malaise, distrust, and anger over the government's ways is actually, in fact, great, and I'm just racist. That's absolutely the truth! How could I have ever been so BLIND?
>implying total oppression isnt the only way to go with fucktoys
What are you, a feminist? A 'liberal'? What are you even doing on this fucking forum?
Female 'liberation' = part of the genocide against whites.
Germans are just Celtic scum.
Only 6% of German males have inherited Germanic genes from their fathers (including the Y chromosome). 45 percent of Germans have Celtic roots:
>"hmm I've had no job growth besides entry level minimum wage jobs and steady unemployment numbers"
>"what to do what to do.."
>"I know I'll change the way we define unemployed"
>If you've been unemployed for more than 6 months you aren't counted any more
>later on the News "unemployment at historic lows! Obongo adds 20,000 new jobs (at Burger King.)
>mfw Muslims pray five times daily to a 2000 year old desert shithouse
funny, for the same reason Goyim like the Kebab (because they are our enemies).
now look what happened
You don't have to get mad. You can check the facts for yourself. There are plente of .gov sites. Some of the stats will be a little better and a little worse because that picture is from 4-quarter 2013. You judge a man by the skin colour he was born with and not by his character. You call a man who is officially a christian and goes to chuch, a muslim. Why? Because it's convenient for you and your perception of reality. You go by the notion that ''this one man dark did bad, every man dark colour bad''. It is driven by intense fierce hatred.
>We got 5 prisoners and they got 7 prisoners + $100 billion.
Wow that does sound like a bad deal. Maybe we should have asked for 75% of their centrifuges and arrange for 98% of their uranium to be shipped to another country like Russia or something.
It's complete bullshit, and a simple repeat of the whole North Korea fiasco.
For those of you too young to remember, we went down this road before, with sanctions, economic assistance, inspection regimes, etc.
Basically they screwed us over, and now they have hydrogen bombs. Bill Clinton was a fucking idiot for trusting the norks, and Obama is an idiot for trusting the iranians.
That being said, I don't care if the Norks have the bomb, they're not stupid enough to use it. Neither are the Iranians. But Iran getting the bomb will force the saudis to go nuclear, and then other states in the region will have to look hard at getting a nuclear deterrent, and there is far too much instability in the region, and one of these powers are likely to be overthrown by the next islamic uprising, and basically we do not want ISIS having nukes, because they will use them.
shh, no tears now, only Shoah
>oil goes cheaper as market competition rises
>us get more influence in the region as Iran becomes friendly to us interests
>jobs get created for both nations
>no nukes for a Russian ally
Pretty good deal in my opinion. I have no idea why anyone would get butthurt over this.
Did you just take psychology 101 because you sound like a retard.
No where or at any point did I say I judge him for his skin color.
Quite the opposite. I was judging his actions which reveal the content of his character.
I never called him a Muslim. He may well be considering he has known ties historically to the Muslim Brotherhood.
That doesn't concern me though. It's his actions.
You are a hilarious tragedy. You think you understand things when you don't.
You project your weakness onto others.
You accuse me of bigotry without any evidence BECAUSE YOU ARE A BIGOT.
Go fuck yourself.
this is you
Fine effort, Norway
It's just crying jew puppets. I don't like mudslimes either, but everyone already knows if Iran was even remotely close to a nuke Israel would have already attacked. If they DO try to get a nuclear weapon and are close to it, Israel can turn Iran into an atomic crater for all I care.
Credit Iran as much as anything else for waiting, seeing how it played out, and negotiating a dea
>thats what a democracy does
Compare to Turkey who just shot down russia's jet ... Wars have started over less than that.
>you sound like a retard
>You are a hilarious tragedy
>You think you understand things when you don't.
>You project your weakness onto others.
>You accuse me of bigotry
>Go fuck yourself.
Tantrum, ladies and gentlement. Go after the person, not the topic of the conversation. I was talking about /pol/ mentality because you wrote:
>Cherry pick "hmm I've had no job growth besides entry level minimum wage jobs and steady unemployment numbers"
>>later on the News "unemployment at historic lows! Obongo adds 20,000 new jobs (at Burger King.)
You don't talk about the commaned in chief like that. ''Obongo''. What is that? Muh nationalism.
You made no coherent argument whatsoever in regards to the good things that he has achieved. You pull out a couple of bad ones and make it the day.
You can sincerely fuck off :)
There was no germ theory of disease in ancient times. People shat, drank, and bathed in the same water; in India they still do.
Also remember: there is nothing to wipe your ass with in the desert. Water is very useful for this if you have nothing else.
When I saw what this will enable Iran to do all the pol indoctrination left me for a sec and I thought to my self good luck Iran
Obama did good
But the iranian president did better
Now that the deal has been settled, am I free to go to Iran to smash some pus? When can I collect my future Persian bride? Pic related
It's pretty difficult to judge his economic policy at the moment when the FEDs balance sheet has increased by 4x and we've been on ZIRP for 8 years. Now that the morphine drip has been removed (looking at recent market reactions we'll see if rates continue to rise) we will be able to better gauge his policy.
But for all the hope and change he promised it was basically more of the status quo
Obama just destroyed Saudi Arabia and Russia.
Annihilated them. Possibly irrecoverably.
You may say that Obama has been a bit of a slanty bastard at times, but he knows how to play cards.