Why do Scandinavians not want to have children? They have better

>>61193147
The prime minister says that Sweden is a feminist country, and they run feminist anti-men propaganda ads. That should give you some idea.

My hope is that some Scandinavian women will come to their senses, tired of hearing about their friends family being gang raped by Muslims and they'll move to Canada.

This is unlikely, but I'm less and less inclined to take a trip there for the puasy than I was last year so thats that.

Because swedish women are very masculine and unattractive.

>>61193147

Here in Denmark at least we just about manage to have an above-replacement birthrate
But the immigrants are helping with that, so...

However, stuff is expensive: daycare is not free (unless you are on wellfare), a normal family has to pay 300-400 dollars a month pr kid for daycare.

>>61193538
Compared to Swedish "men," sure.

>>61193538
Feminist sure, but masculine?
My hometown is only 30% white.

>>61193763
Pretty much all women here have very masculine personalities, it's pretty unattractive.

I'm sure I could find guys who are better at being women here.

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>>61193465
That's really hoping bud.

>>61193147
Same as Germans. The liberals, the anti-Christian atheists have told the Nordic and Germanic peoples that they are better off not to have kids... instead let in Muslims from Arab and North African descend and have them replace or "mix" with them.

Look at Sweden, it is basically one big Muslim lovefest.

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>>61193973
>I'm sure I could find guys who are better at being women here.
Me too

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>>61193538
HAHAHA DON'T TRY AND TRICK ME ERIK

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>>61193147
But is

we will trade 10 japanese girl for every 1 white girl

please

>>61193973
SWEDEN
YES
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S

>>61193147
Because just like other countries in our western white world, both women and men are going for the "rich, wealthy and kids free"-lifestyle.

>>61194160
13% of German girls...below Mexico, Turkey and freaking India.

Jesus. We Germans are so fucked. I think I need to do an hero.

>>61194324
Or you could stop getting cucked and make Germany great again.

>>61193147
All developed countries except Israel have this problem, it's not just Scandinavia.

>>61194321
They don't want something reminding them of you.

Because the cost of their socialist paradise is a very high rate of taxation with relatively low wages compared to the US (common throughout Europe), and having very many children or having children early would basically kill their disposable income and sour their utopia.

The faustian bargain is coming undone because there aren't enough workers paying for social entitlements anymore, which is why they're trying to bring in immigrants to fill the gap. You can judge for yourself how well that's working out.

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>>61194324
Just go to the former Prussian parts of Germany, that will yield you some qt's. Remember the reason most German women probably weren't rated high is because they most likely didn't wear much makeup and dressed very masculine to seem casual. It really could be higher if German women wanted to try harder to look good. With that said these Nordic countries have a certain natural beauty that is hard to match, in fact only matched by redheads.

>>61194514
They do, but later in life.

>>61193147
the colder it is, the more work you have to do for each child...

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>>61194160
>Portuguese men at 5th

my future is guaranteed

>>61194472
Wait, I remember seeing a graph showing this the other day, why is it that Israel somehow stays above replacement rate?

>>61193147
Because they're frivolous and think that careers to buy junk are more important than legacy and nationhood.

>>61194668

Israeli women like to fuck.

t. An American Jew who dated an Israeli.

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>>61194514
I like you.

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>>61194656
As long as you bathe and aren't too hairy, the southern Euro look is very popular with the girls.

>>61194125
It's sad but I think the most feminine women in Sweden are young trannies, swedish women may be pretty but awful personalities.

>>61194668
People aren't quite sure, they actually see it as a problem over there because their country is so small. It's not just the Orthodox either, the entire population is well above replacement, the average is like 3.2 or something.

>>61194591
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>>61194745

>>61193147
Speaking for myself

1. I don't want to raise children in this shit country and these shit times
2. I want to live my own life first, study and then travel around the world
3. I don't care about passing my genes on
4. What's the fucking point anyways unless you actually like children and want them because of selfishness

>>61193147
Women there somehow think a life as an HR manager is more fulfilling than raising kids.

>>61194740
Spain, Italy and Portugal have some of the lowest birth rates in all of Europe.

>>61194724
Yeah I heard they're massive sluts for the goyim, will let you do everything even cream them.

>>61194835
Maybe having kids is promoted in media in Israel.

>>61194896

When that biological clock starts screaming at ~35 it's going to be hilarious.

>>61194896
>What's the fucking point anyways
I think the two main points are that it gives people's lives meaning and that it continues the life of the society. For whatever reason people don't care about the second, and seem to be taking other paths for the first.

>>61195041
this

>>61195016

If a kid is born to a Jewish mom the kid is Jewish. They are equipped to absorb their children of non-Jews into their community, single mom or not. They can absorb a certain amount of outbreeding without diluting their culture.

>>61194776
Is it possible to red pill them?

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>>61194242
Stay away from our beautiful women you hentai!

>>61193147
Jews.

>>61195166
I'm sure the younger ones are more red-pilled than any woman you'll ever meet.

I mean they don't want to get beaten to death by mudshits.

>they have better looking women then anywhere else in the world.

What a fucking conformist beta

>>61194589
PREUSSEN

yes, do this germanon
prussians are master race
fuck hitler

>>61193147
I've been considering moving to Iceland
I mean, whats not to love?
>Island country
>Beautiful land
>Beautiful women
>Opportunity

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>>61193147
All the Swedish men are faggots. The only thing left is pic related and humans can't breed with sand monkeys.

>>61194896
The point is to put life into this world and make a child.
What else are you gonna use you're life on? DOn't you think you'll get lonely when your old without any children and grandchildren.
Having children is a big challenge and takes a lot of energy but in the end they will become people you can be proud of and be around. It's a person you'll always ''have''. And also children are fun to be around, they are full of life etc..

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>>61193538
They are definitely not. Sweden is one of those places where you see very, very many attractive people pretty much everywhere.

Having kids is expensive and bothers your career development which is very important in such socities where people are highly educated in average.

And most people are having kids, just not several ones. Most families have two.

>>61195387
>100% Atheist among millennials
>No woman wants to be a mother
>Has fucked many men before you
>No jobs
>Nothing to do
>Tiny ass island with NOTHING TO DO

They have good internet though.

>>61195413
All this time on /pol/ makes me want to have lots of kids. I'm only 18 though.

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>>61194668
Isn't it obvious?
RELIGION

Atheism killed the West by destroying all sense of duty and community from people and replacing it with a big consumerist void. Christianity was the glue holding everything together.

>>61195387
That they don't have summer. Unless you like rainy weather and 15 celsius in july :P
Also it's winter most of the year and in the darkest time the sun doesnt even show up..
But yeah other than that it's a pretty cool country. you forgot:
>people who you can trust
>everybody knows each other (they have a population like the third biggest city in Denmark - but this one is both good and bad)

>>61195425
This needs an occupy democrats logo on it

>>61194896
>having kids
>selfishness

>>61195566
Israel is about 2/3rds non-religious. They do identify as being Jewish I guess, but they're not religious.

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>>61193668
>unless you are on wellfare
And thats the reason why shitskins can pump out kid after kid after kid... They are pure vermin.

>>61194896
>I don't want to raise children in this shit country and these shit times
It ain't that bad compared to the past

>I want to live my own life first, study and then travel around the world
You still got enough time to do that. Start studying at 18, finish your studies at 23 and then travel around the world for 2 years. Then you still have enough time to get kids.

>I don't care about passing my genes on
Passing your genes on is like reincarnation. I don't see why you wouldn't want to do it unless you're suicidal

>What's the fucking point anyways unless you actually like children and want them because of selfishness
Why is it selfish to like to learn children new things and to help them grow? That's the same thing as implying that helping people is selfish

The Nordic education system is to blame, educating women the same as men is a big mistake.

We are trying man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrO3TfJc9Qw&ab_channel=SpiesRejser
We even imported niggers to help but it didn't help because of the abortion clinics

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>>61195744

With us Jews it's different. We have a strong sense of cultural identity even if we do not practice the Jewish faith. You Christians are pretty fucked though.

>>61195750
Having children is selfish goy. Don't you want to be pathologically altruistic and not have children that can contribute to and help the world? Don't you want their to only be brown children?

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>>61193147

Rarity makes for value. Simple market law which works both ways

>>61195878
The death of Christianity will be like the death of the benign bacteria in your stomach. They crowd out the dangerous and lethal ones, and once they are dead you will shit your guts out until you either fix the problem or die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ecnfe530IE

*tear*

>>61196031
If there was only a single US dollar in existence US dollars would become worthless. It would be a novelty item a collector would buy up with ACTUAL currency.

>>61196032
This.

>>61195663
This.

>>61196032

Well yeah. The whole "burn the witch, burn the heretic, crusade for the holy land, Deus Vult" part of Christianity is no longer fashionable outside of a narrow demographic. It's essentially a vaccine against more dangerous beliefs.

>>61195878
I mean Christianity did used to be like that. Western European countries and their diaspora are just undergoing to late stages of civilization, Jews were always sort of outside of it so they aren't degrading in the same way.

>>61193538
Yes. Swedish men on the other hand... gibsmedat

>>61196175

The DTM model is deceptive I think. They presume that stagnation is merely a cyclical phase rather than something to be actively avoided.

>>61193147
we must eradicate ourselves from existance because the holocaust and slavery and stuff

>>61196287
I don't mean the DTM model though, it's not just birthrates, the entire Western culture is imploding on itself and has been for a few centuries.

>>61195413
I make art and that's what I plan on doing in future too. But yeah I guess you have some valid points.

5. I'm quite terrified about giving birth and having to take care of the child
6. I would want my children to have a good father figure that would stay in their life

>>61196385

I remember back in the 2000's Russia was the only Stage 5 country (death higher than birth rates, declining population). The other countries were stable, or say in the US they were growing still. If the Nordic countries and others have kicked off of Stage 5, well... does any country want to be more like Russia?

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>tfw no qt Norwegian gf that recoils in horror from the mass cultural suicide of her Swedish neighbors and just wants to live in an all-white comfy town in the fjords surrounded by beautiful nature

>>61196524
I would not be surprised if Russia swung back in terms of birthrates, they still have some sense of cultural unity despite how fucked up their country is, evidenced by their high religiosity. I see that as completely impossible in any Western countries. You might be right though, i might be pessimistic.

>>61196385
centuries? Or do you mean decades.

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>>61193147
>Why do Scandinavians not want to have children? They have better looking women then anywhere else in the world.

Wealthy countries always have the lowest birth-rates, poor countries the highest.

No one has kids because they want to produce good-looking kids. Are you 12, milkbag?

>>61196699
I would say at least since the French Revolution. But that whole century was full of people with very radical views, Voltaire is the usual example.

>>61196821
I know why it's happening I just wanted to see the responses of people. The most socialist countries always have lower birthrates.

>>61196944
The late sixties really marked the decline of the West.

>>61193147
Because water is full of BPA and men are way too feminine and dont really care about starting family, thats why all scandi women want bbc

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>>61194896
cap this Fin, and amuse yourself in a decade or so.
lol
everyone thinks this shit at a certain point, but you get older and experience more and your perspective changes --- also part of being young: thinking what I just wrote doesn't or won't apply to you.

>>61196671
The average Norge girl isn't like this though right?

>>61195387
how do you feel about elves, and the people who believe in them? And living mountains, and such?

Just make your own fucking country better, migrant.

>>61193668
>300-400 dollars a month
thats it?

shiiiieeet im movin to Denmark

>>61194160
Brazilian refugees, when?

>>61193147
>They have better looking women then anywhere else in the world.


LOL yeah buddy keep telling yourself that

>>61197713
Only from the South

>>61196671
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

Like so many young guys you are mistaking blonde hair and a smile for beauty.
Take that pic into photoshop, change her hair to brown or black and you'll have a better idea of how she really looks.
You've been blonde-blinded, that's all.

Don't get me wrong, she's quite attractive, but you're seeing more than what's there because you're bringing all sort of your own shit to the pic.

>>61194160
A whole site of people who are blonde-blinded.

3D is suffering

let go

>>61197952
Ayy he fell for it

>>61196032
>yfw the West has an autoimmune disease

>>61197592
>just make your own fucking country better
fuck that, people here suck

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>>61198283
Excuse me I think redheads are the qt'est

>>61198349
What did I fall for.

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>>61193147

Eesti and Finnish are better though. To answer this /b/-tier question education is the culprit like everywhere else.

>>61194125
Jesus Christ that's webm is just horrifying.

Please tell me this is some 3rd grade TV channel nobody watches,

Birthrates can be fixed if governments pumped money into artificial wombs.

liberals with purple hair, heavy overweight, tatoos all over, pierced ring through the nose, longer armpit hair than any man and probably wearing the same boxers as underwear as u, does it sound attractive?

>>61198769
this is national channel on prime time

>>61193147
>Scandinavian
>Best looking women

Not true, Mediterranean and Eastern European have the better looking women

>>61195166
If I'm not mistaken SD gets a large portion of the gay vote

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>>61198534
>you implied south brazil is white
Our definition of whiteness is so fucking brand, 25ish and under in pic related is ''white''. Doesn't matter if you have brown eyes and curly hair, slavery will still be your fault

>>61198879
I just don't know what to say.

I understand why you don't want kids if they're going to turn out like that.

Why would you punish an innocent child like that.


>>61198504
same leaf

>>61194125
>>61194776
>>61198769
I know this may seem far fetched, but isn't it possible the boys are just mimicking what they see as the feminine obsession with selfies. Especially given the exaggerated mannerisms

>>61196695
It may be irreversible... the point is that nobody is trying to reverse it either. Hwo about giving tax rebates for each children and for staying married? And take away welfare for single moms and the unemployed. You would see how birthrates skyrocket again when having children becomes a net gain again.

>>61199218
>Half flip
>white
top kek I'm white in Brazil

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>>61198504
This is now a redhead thread.

>>61199218
everything abov 15 is a nigger

>>61193668

What's the deal with cars there Denmark? Does nobody own one or what?

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>>61199625
Of course.

Children are easily influenced by the prevailing culture.

Except those who always oppose the prevailing culture, some people are just born that way.

It is understandable for swedes to not want to bring kids up in this cancer of a culture.

>>61199948

>>61198024
Post a pic.

>>61199625
Scandinavian countries have one of the highest percentages of single mother households and militant feminists in almost every political party so it wouldn't be surprising that missing father figures and anti-male propaganda is creating an entire generation of feminized men.

>>61199704
Poland is paying married couples to have kids.

>>61193668
No grandparents to help out? That's why they exist...

>>61200524
Or the wife can just stay at home.

>>61193668
>But the immigrants are helping with that, so...
Sadly that leads to a death spiral so more immigrants = lower wages, which makes having children more difficult, which leads to opening the country to more immigrants which lower the wages even more, necessitating even more immigrants. It seems to be the destiny of most, if not all, first world countries... a fatal flaw in how we've implemented democratic capitalism.