Washington Post Article https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/01/16/watch-teenage-pop-stars-humiliating-apology-to-china-for-waving-taiwan-flag/?tid=sm_tw
Tzuyu, 16 cute taiwan KPOP star, was forced to humiliate herself in a video after China's internet user went on a witch hunt. The little cute girl had held a taiwan flag on a small korean TV show. This enraged Chinese people and gov into a witch hunt, spreading rumors and hate of the little 16 year old across China's 1.4 billion people.
Taiwan, in response, has elected the first woman president who is anti-China reunification. In addition all political parties in Korea and Taiwan have lashed out at the chinese bullies.
Those Chinese bullies. Taiwan is not China.
Chinese even try to destroy cute han chinese girl
new taiwan president thanks to Chinese internet users smart cunning in calling Taiwan people stupid pigs.
China so good at social engineering
The anti-reunification party was leading by a ton anyway. At most this cost them 5-10 points. Which is still a lot.
Also, Korean political parties haven't said shit. Twice is blacklisted from all the major Korean fashion magazines now.
Yeah she's a cutie. It's a big reason this went badly.
I'm curious if Koreans are going to protest the magazine blacklist or resume sucking Chinese dick tomorrow after talking tough today.
How do we save the Taiwanese qts senpai?
Yes she is 16
She has a rare medical condition that requires her to eat a gallon of cum each day
The government has their illusions they have to maintain too.
Rabid nationalism is guided by the state to steer people's attention away from the countless problems they face in their own country.
I was in China when all that dick slapping over those fish islands, or whatever they were called, popped up. People had 'fuck japan' stickers on their cars, there were groups of people, men and women, who would start chanting 'fuck japan' in so many ways whenever I went out anywhere.
Notice how this happened right as China's stockmarket shit the bed.
She's Natural though
Taiwanese, not Korea/Chinese/Jap
absolute madman will save twice
Korea tries to ban porn and substitutes some of the dirtier kpop artists for it.
In the context of teens beating it to gangrape porn videos vs some kpop slut; It's not degenerate at all.
i dnt understand why taiwanese dont see themselves as chinese?
Just admit youre part of china.
Whats so bad about China
XI JINPING WILL RAPE THE NEW TAIWANESE PRESIDENT
Can anyone one aware me on the taiwan/hongkong/singapore/china relations please?
>Whats so bad about China
>What's so bad about CCP
Look at hong kong's treatment with disappearing booksellers, changed rules after agreement, flood of mainlanders etc.
The thing is any deal they make with China will not exist the day after they give up power.
China didn't think longterm and bungled HK two systems one country policy. Plus the general anti-taiwan sentiment of Chinese people. Of course it will drive Taiwan sentiment away.
China will have to wait until their standard of living is higher and they have warming sentiment instead of hostility towards each other.
the CCP is what keeps islam out look at all the countries with no authoritarian government.
The best analogy I have for Taiwan/China is that it's basically like if the American south fled to Cuba and set up their own government there after losing our civil war. Obviously a colossal mess that will take forever to fix.
Singapore is a fairly authoritarian independent city state. Hong Kong used to be a democratic one but has been crushed under Chinas's heel now.
Nah fuck that, the communists destroyed many priceless artifacts from Chinese history after the nationalists fled, I've seen it with my own eyes. Buddhist temples damaged by machine guns, huge stone tablets with writing on them smashed.
Communists are human locusts. Mao's dumb ass even wanted to do away with names in China, replacing them with numbers.
1. China didfu nothing for Taiwan. The railroad, health and basic infrastructure and electrification were Nip's work.
2. China can give fuck all to Taiwan. 50 years of status quo with Hong Kong? Hah. As is Beijing has kept up even for 19 years.
3. Chiang Kai-shek and Mao were both massive shitheads. Taiwan went from a prefecture of Japan that's actually making dosh to broke-ass singular province of the ROC in the span of a decade. It was so bad that Hongers were giving used clothing to Taiwan.
Why would any one that's even slightly bit rational want to be with the cesspool that is PR of C? Stop being a dumbfrogposter.
would protect and spread my genes with
isnt taiwan a democracy? How does china have influence on it now and why are taiwanese so paranoid? Why not just ignore the CCP and get along with bisness? Are the chinese trying to invade or something?
Arent they on peaceful terms?
You know what the worst part is?
They now go and rebuild those temples, 'fix up' the artifacts and curate them with people that have MBAs in order to make money out of them. Being srs here. There's no real Shaolin monks for one. The guy that runs the place is really the CEO of Shaolin corp, and the guy's a card-carrying member of the Communist party.
>Taiwanese girl wave Taiwanese flag
>Pro-unification Taiwanese figure gets triggered, provoke the Chinese
>Chinese people swarm the news pages
>JYP Management panicks and just ditch the girl, forcing her to do all the apology
>Now Taiwanese people are mad
tl;dr : Blame the honorary jews at the JYP. The girl just held the flag she was given never knowing what would follow.
>Why would any one that's even slightly bit rational want to be with the cesspool that is PR of C? Stop being a dumbfrogposter.
Well, a first world modern country like Taiwan of course not.
A developing nation that is stagnating? Possibly. Post Deng, CCP hasn't been bad for China.
>in response, has elected the first woman president
i dont think the actions towards some 16 year old girl determined a countries fucking election... that had nothing to do with the elections
go back to fucking reddit you cukc
Well no. PRC still insists that the civil war's not over and that Taiwan is rightful PRC clay cause PRC succeeded the ROC. ROC remnants that's fled to Taiwan technically remain at war till this very day, even if ROC declared an end to hostilities.
You see the problem here right? Mao failed to take Taiwan, and the ROC remnants lost international recognition by 1970, so Taiwan's stuck in a limbo.
>Democratic Taiwan resistant to reunification and a thorn in China's side
>HK is suffering from unification in terms of political right and economical. No longer a democracy at all
>Authoritarian Singapore is playing off China and USA against each other ala realism
>mfw all these Canadian flags
>mfw all Chinks
You can't make this shit up
Germany was right to genocide jews
Japan was right to genocide chinks
Seriously... World War II? The good guys lost. The Allies = Fag enablers
>was singapore ever under china rule ?
AHAHAHAHAHA FUCK NO
>What are your relations with china?
We are like their role model though China is much more authoritarian than us though. Like i said we served as a middleman/third party between US and China to prevent one of them to have too much control over us. CCP and KMT even met in Singapore as neutral ground to prevent an invasion of Taiwan
I know. Funny huh? This Chinaman finds the idea of chicom ratting out their own father and mother back in the 60s and then pretend that none of that shit ever happened to be disgusting.
Those vermin cannibalize on each other, figuratively and literally. The degeneracy during the Cultural revolution was such that the Chinks were eating Chinks in fullblown cannibalism display of prowess by the Red Guards. There's records of it.
>not the ultimate cuckoldry
china is fucked up and insanely ruining its own society, only in a slightly more outdated model than the west
Our Muslims are very moderate and secular compared to arabic Muslims. Soooo no thanks senpai. The real danger is the growing threat of immigration and foreign powers
Not really senpai. In the current state and trend, we will have a oligarchy or aristocracy in 50 years
Please, most Chinese don't report themselves and you know it. They use their shadily gotten gains from the mainland to buy up property in Canada. Most of these shadow buyers aren't recorded in any census yet they make up most of your population.
Chinese Canadian men are % in North America to be gay/traps.
Chinese-Canadian girls 99% marry white bf. Leaving 0% chance for Chinese boipussies to find gf. Means Chinese Canadian males trap up to find lover.
yea funny how most "white" bfs are beta males
Oh yeah, we totally live in a patriarchal world
>One woman cries
>The entire fate of a nation changes
I can guaran-fucking-tee you that if a man in an equivalent situation was kicked to death, we'd never hear of it. Hell, who's to say that hasn't happened already?
Now now Murrican, most really are there to invest in the real estate in a way. It's a surefire nest egg to dump money that they pilfered from their public offices and network while waiting for maturity of their investment.
However, you are forgetting to mention the significant cohort that dumped the spoiled rotten kid over to sit at their mostly empty abodes as they drive cars that "his" parents bought him for getting into collage and whatnot. These kids relish in their connections.
The ones that are actually functional and taking part in the society are completely detached from those two groups.
Thats exactly the side affect of technocratic meritocracies.
It devolves into an aristocracy/oligarchy/partial plutocracy
Capitalism does this as well, in fact nearly every single form of governance will devolve into an aristocracy that will begin stonewalling the plebians from rising to the top without marrying into it.
That is not true. Hell a meritocracy should be ensuring that never happens in the first place. We just pay lip service to the ideal of meritocracy but never following through with it.
>tfw I was born and raised in Taiwan and know first hand how shit the mainland is
Fuck China, Taiwan is the only China I ever recognize. So glad Taiwan is pretty much permanently anti-commie and commies are seen as subhuman
I despise these fucking shill threads but the Taiwan vs PRC replies are fucking gold.
Shit like this baits the one party shills out of the woodwork
>we regitimate govenment taiwan taiwan no exist taiwan colony of japan japan agent taiwan hong kong ours democracy protesters seditious separatist qinq dynasty who dis chang kai shek who dat chang kai shek war criminar i grad he dead
Taiwan just elected a leftist sjw woman into office.
Do you fags realize that electing women will be the downfall of your country?
She will soon be bringing in syrian muslim refugees like merkel and hillary.
Fucking learn from the west and dont make the same mistake as us
I read this book about China before. What this girl did can be considered treason and a terrorist act. I would be scared if I was this girl because what China does is declare someone commited a terrorist act or treason, than they do not get a trial (all judges go with china gov anyway) and immediately sent to Chinese prisons to die.
She was polling for a victory since before August last year though.
Taiwan is going to plea for international recognition as an independent nation and there's a good chance that China will retaliate by invading them.
Daily reminder to ignore pro-Chinese posts from Canada, "Sikhs are bro tier" posts from Canada, German posts defending Turks, "Mexican immigrants are breddy good" posts from America, and "Islam means peace" posts from Britain.
>Read history, Taiwan rightfully belongs to China.
>Be Civil War
>Be 3 factions
>Qing, Nationalists, Commies
>Commies shit all over the mainland
>Nationalists leave to the Islands and practice self determination
>The only people who recognize the PRC are commies
>Rest of the world joins along when PRC militarizes and industrializes
>PRC starts to make increasingly sneaky claims on the islands in the Pacific, politically from the inside, with mining rights, fishing rights, and naval passages, in spite of the decades of force projection the US had in the region
>US war monger US mind own busiress US buy more our cheap shit US no worry we no take over Pacific US let us take over pacific is rightfur ours
>Hong Kong leased from the Qing Dynasty for 100 years
>The private owners of all of China by dynastic precedent
>Given back to a different regime to avoid an international incident
>PRC reduces the autonomy and democracy of Hing Kong and fills its government with PRC yes men
I wanted Eric Chu to win pham. Taiwan pride world wide.
Nah she said she will keep the status quo.
A.k.a China can claim we're part of them. Just with our own borders, army, money, government and Chinese citizens not allowed to enter without a visa.
A.k.a. another country.
So her party is all bark and no bite? They aren't actually going to do anything different, despite that being their label/brand of pushing for sovereignty and international recognition?
Well she will stop the shift toward China started by the KMT. Beside that, there is not much Taiwan needs, besides a useless seat at UN.
We won't declare our independance from China, the say way Australia will never declare its independance from Belgium.
Status quo is fine.
Fun history lesson.
>It is the waning years of WW2.
>Communists and Nationalists are fighting for control of China.
>Nationalists are winning.
>Japan attacks China.
>Nationalists bogged down in war with Japan.
>Communists seize power from weakened Nationalists.
>Nationalists exiled to Formosa (Taiwan) and make prosperous country there with sweet Neo-Confucian/Republican government.
If only the Nationalists had kept control... Taiwan has a pretty kickass government that was even Distributist for a while.
IF it wasnt for the CCP china would be flooded with muslims like the west
its alrady happening in japan
Sigh...Since most of you here can read Chinese I'll just leave this here
They will privatize/ I mean sell all state assets to their rich backers. Basically, the green is for looting of Taiwan.
After they are done, the Taiwanese will be so poor they'll beg to join China...
Pro DPP media started all this crap by using her to agitate mainlanders, the word “强国人”, which is as provocative as "Chink", was repeatedly used until finally they get the attention they always sorted
The Chinese people did no wrong. A few words on Weibo cannot compel someone to act against her will. Blame the Taiwanese traitor politicians using her to get more votes.
Tzuyu only made the apology to appeal to make sure she could keep making money in the Chinese market
Perhaps in the future she will watch her actions as a public figure
Also lol at the OP, you really think the Chinese gov't cares what some little popstar does in her free time? LOL
Riiight the gov't doesn't care, which explains why they went in and removed most of Huang An's Weibo account.
Seriously not concerned at all that this turned into a massive public relations disaster.
Young people are cool with it.
Important precision : in Taiwan, as in many Asian society, individualism is despised by all even the younger ones.
Therefore, we have virtually zero special snowflakes, you would be completely shunned and shamed if you were to publicly ask different treatment because of how special you are.
So gay marriage will be done because there are actual gay persons (very lowkey and they don't really even ask), nothing else.
That fucker. Well the pic I posted said he only reacted after those reports emerged several times later. I learned about this whole incident only after the isis style video emerged tho, so you're welcome to prove that it was actually otherwise
>A few words on Weibo cannot compel someone to act against her will
but Korean companies pulling out of CF deals because of pressure from China can
also all the other artists from her company are getting dragged into this, having to cancel performances and TV appearances in China
The pop star story isn't really the issue though. The central issue is the PRC being aggressively anti-Taiwan. They literally see Taiwan as a rogue province that they will eventually control, even though they have completely different culture, economic systems and government.
Yes, the PRC does care a lot about this, and they're extremely triggered by the suggestion that Taiwan isn't the domain of their state. Its officially written in PRC policy that if Taiwan declares total independence, they will launch a war
taiwan is fine with Confucianism.
can't say the same about mainlander chinks though, many choose to be jehovah withess, top kek.
well, still better than worshipping holy cows i guess.
No risk atm, even young people follow taojiao, no Islam, no degeneracy.
But we have a few Christian doing very proselyte work.
My wife always gets handed flyers for group prayers or events at various churches popping up here and there.
>Its officially written in PRC policy that if Taiwan declares total independence, they will launch a war
As it should, multiple treaties and agreements dictate that Taiwan belongs to China
Huang on's original post which started everything is screenshotted from his weibo
Context by someone who followed the story:
There's an older artist, named Huang An, who is starting this against all Taiwanese artists who have been vocal (or even those who haven't really been vocal) about Taiwan being a country separate from China. He's gotten many popular Taiwanese artists banned from certain concerts and events in Mainland China. Recently, he opened fire at Tzuyu on his Weibo for holding the Taiwan flag, and then the usual C-Netz who followed his Weibo jumped on her immediately. This is quite serious as many Taiwanese artists who are very established have been banned due to Huang An's antics.
yes especially when it comes to removing kebabs
Norn iron is the whitest place in europe
...I have 0 fucking idea why this retard is doing all this. Even the CCP don't care if those singers have voiced their pride of being a Taiwanese. He's been more devastating to cross strait relationship than anything for the last 10 years I think
Mainland China is so bitter about being an ugly communist hellhole that they have to claim the talent and beauty of countries that want nothing to do with them.
Fuck communism and fuck the CCP.
the fuck did you just say?
Muh IRN BRU, an haggis and mah loch ness monstahhhh!
Reminder to get extra offended because she's really cute.
She didn't have an opinion
She went on a korean show and the korean show had a taiwan flag for her, along with a korean flag. Just like for the other girls who had japanese and korean flags.
She had no agency in the drama
More like she's a 16-year-old who loves her country and was bullied by the Chinese into apologizing for it.
The Chinese have had their heads up their own asses ever since they invented gunpowder a thousand years ago. You're not the centre of the universe anymore, get over it.
I hope this wakes Koreans up to what kind of country China really is.
China has been trying to pit Korea against Japan and Taiwan, while they try to expand their own interests. China doesn't want the other Asian nations to unite against them.
But episode like this reveal China's real face.
Don't be fooled, Korea. China is a fucking monster and they will eat you AND Taiwan AND Japan if you ever get weak enough to give them a chance.
I'm glad pro independence won.
Taiwan needs to stop this silly "we are the real China give back clay". They lost the war and it's over now.
By becoming the Republic of Taiwan they can enter the UN and take part in more international things. And this doesn't break one china policy.
My goodness, there's a lot of Chinese diaspora on this board isn't there. If China is so great, why don't you fuck on home and live there for a few weeks? See if you don't develop lung cancer from breathing in the poison they call air.
China was great a thousand years ago, and its Asian neighbours appeased it out of political necessity, or else the mighty Han would throw a celestial fit. Now that it's 21st century and China's been surpassed by all of its neighbours, the Chinese have been trying to relive their glory days and trying to claim what isn't theirs.
China, by essence, since the dawn of time, is absolutely not an expension oriented empire.
This is a common reading made by westerners because that's how they themselves are, but China is not.
The worst part about this is not even Korea is standing with her.
Korean companies are refusing to work with her
The problem is that China's put on a tough spot with Taiwan as it has that legacy of a defeated regime. I agree with you that China when ruled by Han Chinese don't do stellar expansion wise, but the issue of having this lingering redoubt that served to undermine the current regime is something else.
The Manchu didn't take light to the Southern Ming for one. They took the expense to root them out all along Fujian and the outlaying coastal regions, and they mounted an expedition to Formosa at that. I know that this is drawing on historical reference, but Beijing today is still stuck having to contend with not able to finish the job over that civil war.