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You can only post in this thread if your country has the greatest multirole fighter ever conceived.
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Waste of our fucking money, wish we didn't.

>tfw Ameriplebs jealous of the awesome British-designed, British-made Harrier so they made a shittier, more expensive version that catches fire in a lightning storm
Top fucking kek m8s
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>>61172573

>We totally could have developed something better on our own! We just...um......decided not to!
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>>61172282
Why are you posting?
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priviet
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>>61172282
Absolutely
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>>61172770
As a matter of fact, they did.

We made the Rafale because they refused out techs for the Eurofighter. They do refused, on purpose to remove the best technologies from their plane, and to get a smaller market.

Why is beyond me, but once you have fought wars with them, you learn that they have strange ways.
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>>61172282
seriously? is there any aircraft that can fullfill the purpose of a multirole "fighter"?
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>>61173098
F-16
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Wrong fighter OP
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>>61172282
make space you plebs EF2000 coming thru in super cruise!
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The French Rafale is based.

Too bad we're allied with America so we have to finance and buy their dodgy jet that can take off vertically (what you're looking for is a helicopter) but can't do much else.
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>>61173098
Yes. Look at this shit this bird is carrying.
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>tfw other countries will be tarnishing the F-35's name
We should have kept that shit on lock like the F-22.
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>>61172905
While Drakens are based af, they're obsolete I'm afraid.

>>61172770
Our government did decide not to, yeah, and I think that was a mistake. Can you seriously not envision a better fighter than the overcomplicated, overdesigned, overbudget Lightning II? Especially the VTOL/STOL versions, they're fucking bastardised hybrids with an engine that's too heavy for the airframe, and an airframe with aerodynamics designed for a totally different engine.

Face it m8, it's a boondoggle that's only going ahead because of the sunk costs that every party involved has pissed away on the thing.
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>>61173223
>>61173287
Nice surfaces for russian radar to reflect off.
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>>61173408

Apparently the design is shit because of all the constraints added because the US marines wanted it to take off vertically.

I'm no expert anyway. But it seems like a dodgy plane.
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NnnneeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEeyyyyyooooooowwww
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>>61172282
Pffffff. Not even a webm.
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>2016
>manned fighter jets
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>>61173517
Says the guy with the stealth planes that cost $2 billion each, never fly and will be obsolete within 10 years.
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it's actually the greatest piece of shit money waste ever
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>>61173530
USMC version is the first to enter service and currently the only model in service
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>>61173223
>>61173287

I swear I get a hard on every-time I see that payload.
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>>61173728
500 hours in photoshop
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>>61174000
I thought in NATO colours blue meant dummy/inert
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>>61172282
Fuck the F35

They should have re-manufactured the F-111.

Fucking beast!
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>>61173098

>is there any aircraft that can fullfill the purpose of a multirole "fighter"?

F-4E, F-14D, F-15E, F-16C, F-18, Mirage 2000, Rafale

>>61173488

>Can you seriously not envision a better fighter than the overcomplicated, overdesigned, overbudget Lightning II?

Let's disect this one at a time:

>overcomplicated
Do you think this is the 1950s or something? ALL jet fighters are complicated. Pick a fighter jet that you consider simple and then look into the actual mechanics and systems of it: it's never going to be simple.

>overdesigned
It better be overdesigned. It has to stay relevant for the next 30-40 years.

>overbudget
Every ambitious project like this goes "overbudget", it's the price of innovation.

>Can you seriously not envision a better fighter
Of course I can. The Pentagon has already begun working with the industry on conceptual development for a 6th gen fighter. Possible features include fully autonomous functioning and laser defense systems. But that won't be here for at least 15 years.
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>you can only post in this thread if your country's only widely used long-range bomber is an obsolete piece of shit that was designed in 1948, is the size of a small city on radar and they don't make spare parts for any more
kek. America truly is the cuck of the world
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>>61174259
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>>61174346
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>>61174384
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>>61174384

burn baby burn!
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>>61174346
Bruce plz go
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>>61174259
USAF has their F-111s mothballed just in case of a large scale war
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>>61174468
yeah!
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>>61174346
>>61174384
>>61174414
>>61174468
>plane farts
gross
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>F-35
>Multi- role
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>>61174340

Bombers don't need to be replaced as often as fighters because they don't need to compete directly against other aircraft. The B-52 could be in service for a few more decades, really.

And it has friends to help it out wherever its shortcomings lie.
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>>61174490
Fucking poms have been butt hurt with us ever since we picked the yank F-111 over their fucking shithouse dog ugly Blackburn Buccaneers.
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>>61174494
Jej are those fake cockpits painted on?
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>>61173925
At least they look bad ass
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>>61174259

Hangerqueen memeplane that isn't even multirole unless in the use underfunded 3rd world airforces.
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>>61174494
We fucking buried ours.

Many tears were shed that day.....
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GET IN HERE

IRAN IS KUCKING THE US ONCE AGAIN

>>61174404
>>61174404

>>61174404
>>61174404
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>>61174578
This guy knows what's up.

>>61174718
Whatever, crim
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>>61172282
Gripen reporting!
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>>61172282
Yeah we spent nearly billions for this pieces of crap that keep breaking
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>>61175094
It's amazing what Somali people can build. The msulims make great weapons like pic related
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>>61175094

>mfw the "cheap" Gripen is actually more expensive than the F-35.

http://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/politics/10310-haglund-advises-against-jas-fighter-acquisition.html
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>>61172282
make way
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>>61175722
make sure you don't fly them against a proper airforce.

Ask the Argies howcome.
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I don't pay much attention to military technology anymore, but is this still a big deal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw
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>>61175722
jej. Is that a Tucano variant?
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>>61175722
can your turboprops do this?
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>>61172282
jack of all trades, master of none.

The money was still worth it for the R&D that can be used for other, actually specialized crafts.
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>>61175722


I think those were the fighters in the Top Gear challenge
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>>61176132
They are literally modern day F105's.
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>>61175722
Fucking kek, dumb Micks can't even fly a prop trainer aircraft
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1013/122874-cornamona/
>The bodies of the two Air Corps pilots who were killed when their plane crashed during a training flight in Connemara last night have been recovered from the scene.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq4-TxgE8iU
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>>61176439
heres a picture of the aftermath
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>>61176439
>The reason for the crash is clear. Both pilots were drunk as fuck when the planes took a radical decline in height. The last words to the tower beforce ground contact were.......
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>>61176506
Fuck off Pierre, is that the same reason Brazil, Canada, the Netherlands, Norway, South Korea, Singapore, Saudi Arabia and Morocco rejected it? Face it, your fighter is a piece of crap with shitty Radar and a shitty HUD, and it's only getting built because India is buying it with aid money.
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>>61176832
>Aye, begorrah! Feck! Drink! Girls!
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Wouldn't have mined settling for less.
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>>61176999
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>>61177124
that's a quadcopter, not a drone dumbass kike
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>>61173925
>implying we don't use them
i was stationed in korea and you could hear those bitches all the time
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>>61176132

>jack of all trades, master of none.

Of all the objections to the F-35, this has always struck me as the weirdest. All of the aircraft that the F-35 is intended to replace were ALSO multiroles. If all those countries actually wanted a dedicated air superiority fighter, they would have bought F-15s rather than F-16s.
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>>61172282
benis
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>>61172905
quit being a retard Germany. you can't even remove kebab with that
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The tomcat is still viable however Cheney had some ass kissing to do for McDonnell Douglas
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>>61172282
So why are you posting then? It should be just russia itt
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>>61172770
>We totally could have developed something better on our own! We just...um......decided not to!
sad thing is this is likely true gotta lick those fucking american balls
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>>61173287
>Yes. Look at this shit this bird is carrying.

Parasitic drag and radar signature?
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You may only reply to this post if your country is 99% white
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>>61177412
>once a month
>once every thirty days
>twelve times a year
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/guess-how-many-times-per-month-a-stealth-bomber-pilot-actually-flies-e62189128a63#.91dybjxmh

MAXIMUM KEK
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I wonder what they are working on right now.

Space weapons?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlrA-vPOGVQ
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>>61177563
latvia is 25% russian demographics, aka asiatic rape babies.
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h-hello?
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>>61177545
Fuck off Mohammed

>>61177550
Our time will come again, anon ...
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>>61177699
>i am retarded
That's the Estonian flag, Sven. Or are you one of the 7.91%?
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>>61176766
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>>61177975
I wrote the wrong name, but the numbers are the same, 25% mongolian rape babies.
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>>61176217
not even close
those were spaghetti SF.260s
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>>61176506
Also reminder that the Rafale got BTFO by the obsolete F-22 Raptor, even when the Raptor had a handicap and couldn't engage at BVR
B T F O
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F
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Frogs on suicide watch
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>>61176967
this pohm knows whats what
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>>61176506
>>61178303
Forgot pic

>>61178180
>Your plane will be repaired in less than twelve parsecs
kekk
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No German posted this? I am shocked.

They based the A10 on it.
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>>61178303
God Bless
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>>61176999
Checked
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so what IS the best fighter jet on the planet right now that is actually operating and blowing the fuck out anything and everything ?
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>>61177626
Well they don't need to fly it until they do. Also your forgetting that all the money spent on it stayed in the economy and created valuables research and many jobs for aeronautics.
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>>61178632
Silly question, anon.

>>61178646
>Well they don't need to fly it until they do.
Actually they are extremely reluctant to fly it, because of how expensive it is to maintain.
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>>61177124
what
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In b4 turks
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This is the one and only Fighter. Tiger edition.

When I went from the F-16, these felt like bicycles. But the F-5 is a fucking living machine. You can fly it in an entirely different way. In supersonic speed you need to use a lot more stick movements to fluctuate, and the wind sound at low altitude is absolutely hellish. Besides, you can slip backwards in the air during flight acrobatics, something management systems in the F-16 prevents. Real flight skills are required because you have no systems that prevents you to pluck the wings of the hull or choke engines if you're too reckless.
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>>61176967

I think they rejected it because it was way too expensive (baguettes industries can't compete on price due to their high costs because of constant striking and coffee breaks).
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>>61177784

Damn son, you're going to need better if you want to keep the Russians out.

This looks like a WW2 plane.
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>>61177412
>stealth plane
>could hear those bitches all the time

2 billion dollars well spent
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>>61179770
Yeah, that too; more expensive per plane than the F-35

>>61179861
A M E R I C A
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>>61176967
Fortunately we chose the amazing Joint Strike Fighter which will be build by an equally amazing Italian company
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>>61179686
>Besides, you can slip backwards in the air during flight acrobatics, something management systems in the F-16 prevents.

That is because you Norwegians clearly don't teach your pilots properly. Otherwise you would understand aerodynamics... or fuck just stick and rudder skills. Hammerhead stalls my friend.
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>>61179857
we also have these
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>>61179861
>>61177412
>could hear those bitches all the time

By the time you hear them, it is too late. That's how the speed of sound works. Try hearing them after takeoff too. You can't even here commercial jets at 30,000 feet and they are much lower than a stealth bomber. Which is meant to be stealth as in no radar detection. God you niggers are dumb.

>>61179972
You guys don't even have a stealth bomber. If you do, it must be gay since no one has ever heard of it.
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>>61180432
You were probably smoking too much pot to realise you're wasting your money on a piece of crap
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>>61172282
>mfw I can accually post ITT

Thanks Bibi
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>>61180658
No we were about to elect a politician who was against the JSF but then he got killed.
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>>61180616
Maybe ours is the best stealth bomber, because no one has ever heard of it? :^)

>implying the B2 can go supersonic
Maximum kek
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>>61177563
K
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>>61180838
>everyone knows the JSF is a piece of shit
>anti JSF politician gets murdered
>Netherlands orders the JSF
iwonderwhosbehindthis.jpg
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>>61172282
Suck my beautiful canadian cock
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>amerilard chair force
>relevant
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>>61180925
United States of America, bringing democracy to a country near you
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>>61180685
>Israel
>Your country

JIDF please go
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>>61180918
>Croats
>Serbs
>Bosniaks
>white
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>>61180941
We need pic related.
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>>61180941
>multirole
it had one role that became obsolete before it was finished
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>>61172282
>>61174578

>greatest multirole fighter
>A-10 unretired because the F-35 can't replace it after all
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>>61172282
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>>61181151
Pretty much

>>61180685
Fuck off Shlomo
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>>61172573

By specs the F-35B blows the Harrier out of the fucking water, you crumpet.

Ehh this thread will probably read like the F-35 bingo chart again.
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>>61181410
Excellent engine placement on the wings, totally not burning off the rear wings
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>>61181929
It also keeps the aircraft stable during VTOL transition.
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>>61181279
Its role was to be air to ground and air to air combat capable. It's goal was to be from one side of Canada to other, armed, fueled and fighting in 15 minutes.

It used technology that is revolutionary to this day.
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>>61181765
That's not my point; my point was in trying to copy the VTOL/STOL aspect of a Harrier they made a mongrel of an aircraft

Pic related, we're doing pretty well so far!
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>>61181410
It is so retarded it look it like it is from Warhammer.
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>>61182805
How do you correctly put a price on it? Depending on who you ask, it goes from $50M to $180M.
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>>61172282
>tfw when we wasted our money.

Seriously wish we fucking supported our own defence industry senpai.
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>>61172282
>MUH JET
Is it your butchered cock that causes all this insecurity?
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kek
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>>61172282
:,(
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>>61172282
Fuck you
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Check 'em.
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>>61172573
>yfw we sold the entire fleet to the americans for pennies on the pound and now have no aircraft to go on our loldiesel carriers
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>>61182267
This chart is actually full of legitimate argument.
Placing modern electronic, radar, reactors on a already existent platform would make it perform well while staying at a moderate cost. This extra money mean more money for something else, like a gen 6 drone in 20 years.

It do have no guns. While we can discuss it's relevance in modern fights, you can't call that an omnirole.

There is no correct price.
The payload does not hold comparison with the Rafale, or with two Gripen who have the same price than a F35.

There is a reason the truck is painted white on this image.

Stealth by the design of the plane is seriously more expensive than active compensation of the plane reverberation, and give the same result.

The F22 IS better for air to air fights, there is no debate possible. However, the F22 suck dicks at bombing things. They are made to complete each other, not to compete.

With or without external tank, the range is the price to pay for the thrust/weight ratio.

I will stop here, but you get my point.
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What're all these non-american faggots doing here? Y''all don't make f-15 eagles.

Inb4 idiots try to argue with the fighter that has more combat kills than any other - a proven track record.
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The Future.

>>61174340
>hating on the b52

massive pleb
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>>61174578
That's not a fighter, its a CAS aircraft.
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>>61174578
>We need this crazy fucking gun to fly
>Put some jet engines on it
>Heavy armor plating

Just fuck my caliph up senpai.
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>>61181223
Coming from pakistan
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>>61185623
>fires on allies
>it aint/wasn't me starts playing
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>>61185623
Not a fucking fighter.
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>>61184554
kek

>>61184901
wot r u on about m8, we have plenty of early warning helicopters so we know we're about to get rekt :^)
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>No Gripen

At least we were a relevant threat in the skies of the past.
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>>61175722
>Pilatus
>Not the American Next-gen attack variant

AT-6
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>>61185675
Our proud country only got invaded by kebab in the last 20 years, yours has been kebab for centuries

>>61185623
>>61184655
based A-10
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>>61172282

Implying that the best one isn't using stealth technology and his knows to the general public.
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>>61185915

*known
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>>61185726
Who gives a shit, it's fucking badass and fucks everything up with a barrage of heavy ammo from a gun the size of a small car.
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>>61185846
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_T-6_Texan_II#United_States
>The Texan failed to qualify for the Light Attack/Armed Reconnaissance program, because the USAF mailed the exclusion notice to the wrong address, leaving the company with no time to protest the decision.
>mfw Amerifats were so incompetent they didn't order the superior CAS aircraft with proven and reliable tech
Now the only option is probably pic related, but they still won't order it and will develop some retarded in-house aircraft that goes ... let me guess ... a billion dollars over budget
Can the Americlaps do anything right?
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>>61186230
Tucanos are fucking horrible. One more example of USG being incompetent at handling business.

Rumor has it that the whole competition for the CAS contract was intentionally corrupted by Obama admin for back-door deals with the Brazilians. AT6 was cheaper, proven on T6 model, loved by pilots, AMERICAN MADE and capable.
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>>61186689
>Tornado isn't multirole
Try again, retard.
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>>61185895
No, it wasn't
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>>61184901
We dont live in space we dont need nuclear A/C carriers for 2 ships. 9 maybe 2 - no
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>>61180843
Or because it's imaginary
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>>61187162
>Great Britain should not have at least 10 aircraft carriers

Heresy.
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Step aside, you all just got btfod
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Who claims the Typhoon? Because that country.
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>>61187376
Slav kebab eaters BTFO by superior Anglo engineering
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All these shiny jets and not even a MIGHT TUCANO

Even the us buy them from us
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>>61187896
Since we built the technology demonstrator, us.
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>>61188070
>Tucano
>multirole
>fighter
top fucking kek, Ronaldo
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure my country is considering buying some scrap F-16s.
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>>61188210
Not the original Tucano... but the SUPER TUCANO is the real deal
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>>61188225
Sad, we were going to buy some migs but papa USA said no.
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>>61187984
Eternal anglo jealous of superior slav enginuity
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>>61188385
I'd like to see it engage 5th Gen jets in BVF, Paolo
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>>61188070
>Tucano
>Not a flying trashcan

Nice try HUEHUE
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Not one, but TWO SUPER TUCANOS
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>>61172573
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5sWuFYdlcI
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>>61178444
They A-10 evolved more from the Hawker Hurricane, Hawker Typhoon and P-47 Thunderbolt. The stuka did a similar job but it was designed as a dive bomber more than a long-loiter strike/CAS aircraft. I mena the the A-10s Official name is the Thunderbolt II, not the Warthog, which is just an appropriate nickname.
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hello
please raise oil back ;_;
i'm hungry
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'Merica jets don't even have SUPER in their name, how can it even compete?
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>>61188632
>kebabs so poor they can't even afford an airbase
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>>61188152
the demonstrator was derived from MBB TKF-90
so it's the germans.
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>>61188834
DELETE THIS
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Not only do we have the best, we have the cutest one too
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>>61188922
>minislavs mad they can't build their own fighter
stay mad
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>>61188921
>2k16
>having airbases
This way potential enemies cant knock out our airforce
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>>61189404
>2k16
>not having nukes
Invasion imminent, my kebab-eating friend.
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>>61189281
do i appear mad?

we did build our own fighters, but that was before you lot gave away our country to hitler.
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>>61189404
>Croaita

lol
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>>61174340
>Only widely used.
No The USAF uses the shit out of the B-2, you just never here about it or see them because they are damned hard to track and near invisible when dropping bombs. THey used to fly non stop from Holloman in the US to Afghanistan to remove kebab, so their actual strike missions were indistinguishable from training flights. the bomber we have but almost never use is the lancer because it's mission (Low level Supersonic Penetration)was to fuck up heavily defend airspace, which we haven't done since the gulf war. Lancer's are terribly inefficient in terms of operating cost vs kebab removed, so they just chill while the bomb delivery vans like the 52 do the heavy lifting. If we ever end up fighting Iran or North Korea you'll see Lancer's doing Lancer thing again.

>Piece of shit
Muhammad please. the BUFF has literally removed hundreds of thousands of Kebab in the last decade, it is a nearly perfect tool for the war we are fighting, it can just chill in an area for hours, dropping long range guided munitions from stand off range in complete safety. Yea it's ancient, but its still in service because it's VERY VERY GOOD at what it does.
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>>61189694
>needing to be defended from an army that used fucking horse and carts
Wow, Croats really are pathetic
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