Sure government! Jab me with an infected stick so I can have 'immunity' from those nasty 'diseases'.
Seriously vaccines are the greatest con ever pulled in the modern age. Just wait 10-15 years and they're going to start injecting you with trackers as well as all the mercury and heavy metals they already POISON you with
>I know right, why would the government do something that harms its citizens, such concepts are immoral and unheard of
2/10 bait made me reply faggot
>le heard immunity
means exactly "If nobody gets sick nobody will get sick."
I'm not putting the aluminum Jew on the outside of my body and I'm not putting it on the inside either shills
Innoculationist's implicit assumptions:
>if you don't get the jab, you'll certainly die a horrible death (even the ones against non-lethal diseases like chickenpox)
>it is axiomatic no harm whatever can possibly be caused by any vaccine
There are people who cannot be vaccinated. There are people with naturally week immune systems. There are people who just get unlucky and will get sick anyway. 1% of a million I'd still 1,000, and vaccinating is 97% effective.
and what other options are there? growth potential is dangerously low and has been for to long
a good culling would ease the burden society places on individuals and force deflation momentarily maybe a good quarter or 2 worth of deflation here and there with population drop offs
burn everything to the ground so you can rebuild it all
lol, its like 20 bucks cunt calm the fuck down, it isnt injecting little fucking cameras so they know all the porn you watch because the travel to the eye and thats why you cry every time you see your dead parents strung up you fucking cunt.
>Would rather have polio for a few years
Which has effects that last a lifetime, and gives it a chance to develop new strains possibly rendering the entire population at risk
>than be subject to estrogens
Not present in vaccines, is a recent meme
>AND heavy metals
Do yourself a favor and look up what the mercury compound is, why it's safe and why it isn't used anymore (hint: it was because of cost)
>which do cause autism
No it doesn't. One study from a quack doctor who lost his license and whose results could not be replicated. Stop this meme.
Good point which is why when the West falls the world will be in a state of utter corruption and chaos
But why does it have to happen in the western countries, were more civilised and efficient, if anything Africa and Asia should be controlled so they don't excede sustainable populations, maybe stopping giving aids, and making their countrys better like Rhodesia
Thats true, maybe its that people are living too long and the younger generations aren't having enough kids
I didnt say that, i think it was another anon
Classic result of skipping school.
is it possible that goverments are using some vaccines for odd shit? absolutely.
Do vaccines work? yes, they fucking do.
Just because you dont understand something doesn't mean it wont work.
He's a shill.
>Percentage of population receiving fluoridated water, including both artificial and natural fluoridation.
Which government doesn't know how polio works? Which government doesn't know how compounds work?
And even if it was your giant conspiracy government, you think a guy sitting at home on a regular PC or laptop would uncover such a secret? The meme is strong in this one.
We get it for free :')
You think the government likes losing money just to stab it's people? :')
Stay beta weak immune system dude :')
You know girls can smell your weak beta immune system in your pheremones right? :') you know what this would lead to right? :')
Yes you will be cast aside to make way for alpha Chad cock with an A+ immune system :')
>>Percentage of population receiving fluoridated water, including both artificial and natural fluoridation.
Finland stopped adding fluorine to drinking water in the 90s.
How does it feel to get poisoned on purpose by your government in the current year?
Call it a meme but as far as I know this autism and heavy metal shit is all confirmed shit by UNBIASED authorities
Its not losing its money to stab people its losing its money to create complete faith and trust of the government in the people
Dissolving and changing states is not the same thing as forming a compound. If you dissolved chlorine it would still be a poison in a large enough amount. You can't dissolve sodium since it burns in water (which is actually pretty cool. ) But salt dissolves just fine and doesn't kill you. At least, not straight away
>Percentage of population receiving fluoridated water, including both artificial and natural fluoridation.
>both artificial and natural fluoridation
american education, everyone
>for some reason, exactly 20-40% of people in Finland have an amount of flourine in their water, and 60% have none
>finland has exactly 20-40% having flourine somehow, and japan has <1%
Thimerosal contains a single atom of Mercury. It's the (Hg) in this diagram.
You're probably aware that table salt contains a single atom of sodium and a single atom of chlorine, either of which is poisonous if not part of a compound.
Just because something has chlorine or mercury in it doesn't mean it's deadly.
Obviously if Japan has zero, the only way you (not that this isn't a proxy) have 40% instead of 0 is artificial.
Would you consume this? A compound with mercury in it?
It's literally not there, anywhere in Japan.
It isn't hard to find a study not published by the government that shows this.
Also, can you find me a proper study that does show this?
>in practice dangerous levels of heavy metals are present in vaccines
I'll believe you if you give me a citation. Forgive me if I don't trust you, but you seem a bit like a drooling idiot from what else you've posted in the thread.
I've probably taken in more mercury from eating fish than I have from working in the lab. We almost never use compounds containing heavy metals.
>mfw /pol/ is getting rused by an aussie
>hurr let's apply everyman "common sense" to extremely complicated science
Clearly vaccinations are a scam, because how can making you sick make you healthier? It's bullshit. And why don't they just increase the speed of light so we can go faster? I don't get it.
that's a false meme
Every poster taking the bait hard here.
so if my mine in florida doesn't have a gold deposit but my friend's mine in alaska does, someone put that gold there artificially?
Geologist here, you would shit yourself if you knew what was in your water supply.
As the bible says you strain at a gnat and swallow a camel
Jesus Christ if only retard had access to basic education...
The argument is not that there is a direction correlation or inevitability in being vaccinated.
The argument is that the REASON that so many major diseases have died out (is small pocks, chicken pocks, polio, etc) is because the spread of it has been curtailed through immunity. The rate of people catching it or dying from it doesn't NEED to be high, it just needs to be spread by carriers. By having many people vaccinate they prevent anyone from becoming a carrier and thus exposing people who have a more vulnerable immune system.
I hate needles and I prefer to not be vaccinated because I think it keeps my immune system conditioned. But this is just stupid...
FYI autism is a genetic disease, it can't be caused in developed children just by adding some mercury or whatever. Otherwise what would happen to people with mercury poisoning? How about people who eat a ton of canned fish? Ultimately your food utilizes the nutrients and has the mercury get into your blood, what's the difference?
>>Where do you think water comes from? Do you think in some places it's flouridated in natural reservoirs?
It's naturally fluoridated by the terrain, not artificially by man
the fuck man
>I would rather have polio for a few years
Having or not having polio are not on the menu. What you get is either a decreased chance or baseline chance getting polio. It's not like if you don't get innoculated, you're guaranteed to get polio, as the innoculationists would have you believe at some level.
The considerations are increased risk of pathogen-caused disease vs. adverse reactions to injection of a random vaccine, not absolute safety from or absolute risk of getting the illness vaccinated against.
Thimerosal is an antiseptic--so no, you wouldn't want to drink it, idiot.
For reference, there's about 25 micrograms of thimerosal in an injection of the flu vaccine.
That's .025 milligrams, if you're too lazy to figure out the conversion. For reference, the lethal dose is is 75mg/kg. Meaning, if you weighed 80kg, it would take 240,000 injections to kill you (in one sitting). Meaning again, that a single injection is 0.0000042% of the lethal dose.
For reference, a single beer is 7% of the lethal dose of ethanol in an 80kg person.
Op im so with you. I also feel after the sale of 4chan its full of shills protrcting govt interests. Most likely a handful just changing ids and proxies. Fuck this place sucks now.
Was literally just looking at the AVN (Australian Vaccine Skeptics Network) and feeling disgraced about Senator Leyonhjelm's support of Don't Jab, Don't Pay alongside the Greens, Labor and the Liberals- he is way too fucking idealistic to be a true libertarian- he fucking supports unrestrained abortion for fucks sake.
I just fucking hate modern politicians- all the Aussie ones can actually go and eat a dick.
Shorten is a fucking disgrace that is no different to Hillary and is a corrupt liar with no true political beliefs- just legislation to increase government power via nationalization.
Di Natale and the Greens are all idealistic semi-Marxists who think that because they place crushing regulations upon the economy, they'll be 'saving' the environment and 'fighting' the rich and classify all right-wingers as 'bigots'.
Don't get me started on Socialist Alliance and those Marxoid fuckers that are their supporters.
The Protectionists- holy fucking shit, you've got the Nick Xenophon Team, Katter's Australian Party, One Nation and Palmer United that will reduce freedom at any and every turn with economic protectionist and social conservative policies, the Liberals who are now into two factions- the broken traditionalist wing who want to stay in power and the fresh idealistic progressive wing like Turnbull, Pyne and Bishop who have pushed for Don't Jab, Don't Pay too.
Not sure what the Nationals or Family First' positions are- but unless you stand for liberty and free markets without killing unborn children and forcing citizens to have vaccinations, you shouldn't be a party IMO.
Vaccinations for major diseases usually work, flu shots however are worthless.
The real poison is GMO pesticide ridden food, autism only exists in countries where that type of food is the norm.
Holy shit, cucks and le redditors have spammed the thread- don't pay any attention to these foreign fuckers who have Bernie Sanders ideas and refugees flooding into their countries and poisoning their minds.
Vaccines are fucking evil- the heavy metals and mercury within them cause long-term side effects that stay in your system for years, even more then a decade.
After I got my Tetanus injection after I was born, I didn't get a single other vaccine and have resorted to homeopathics and naturopath advice, rather then government funded and corporate interest groups that produce pills and drugs with numerous side effects, and I rarely see doctors- all the prescriptions I've got from them I've found to contain a few hidden elements like heavy metals.
Just a year ago- I felt extremely tired and went to the doctor who just said I had exhaustion.
Went to the naturopath, who told me it was the Tetanus injections effects flaring up finally, before being naturally ejected from my system.
Sure enough, when I went back next and the Tetanus was supposed to wear off- it was confirmed it was gone from my system and I felt energized (or normal) again.
Vaccines are fucking evil things- avoid them whenever you can.
Florida congressman says that one of the 4 people who did the 'definitive' study disproving a link between vaccines and autism, came forward to him saying they destroyed evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGRjn_gIJw0
Look up SV-40. Immunization is good but when they put formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum, and other crap in the vaccines you gotta wonder what their goal is. Funny how we didn't see the needle going into Zuckerberg's kid.
I was immunized against pertussis (whooping cough) as a babby.
At 18, I contracted it. Official diagnosis and everything. I had to take antibiotics.
I know immunity wears of, but I felt jewed.
>> Autism is a genetic disease
That's not what a CDC whistleblower said (he said that the MMR vaccine caused an increase in autism, but they destroyed the evidence): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGRjn_gIJw0
but that's how it works dipshit, your immune system is like highlander, getting stronger every time it beats a virus. So, you introduce to it a weak virus that can't fight back and your immune system beats its ass and gets the strength it would have gotten if it had beaten the real deal.
So the next time you get a cold out of cold season or flu like symptoms, or a stomach bug, it could have been one of those many deadly and debilitating diseases you were immunized for.
although with that said, I am against flu shots except for children and old people. If you die to flu as an adult between those two brackets, it's just survival of the fittest.
Step 1. Call up your local poison control center and ask them the safe amount of mercury to ingest (the answer will be zero)
Step 2. Realize that when injecting mercury it bypasses your normal defenses in your immune system (stomach enzymes, kidneys, bile, etc)
Step 3. Wake up
Do you not understand how the human immune system works? You gain resistance to a disease by your immune system fighting the disease.
>as well as all the mercury and heavy metals they already POISON you with
There isn't any mercury in vaccinations, for a long while they used thiomersal (an organomercurial compound) as a preservative, but saying that's injecting you with poisonous mercury is like saying putting salt on someone's fries is like poisoning them with deadly chlorine gas.
Also, thiomersal was phased out over 20 years ago for better preservatives.
The cause of autism isn't vaccines, it's far simpler than that. We have an entire generation of kids with shitty, neglectful parents being raised by television and the internet - of course they're gonna wind up fucked in the head.
"Mercury is one of the most toxic substances known to humans..."
Mercury poisoning has similarities to Alzheimer's, it clouds the mind and makes it hard to think.
Qin Shi Huang, the famous Chinese emperor who was obsessed with eternal life was slowly assassinated by digesting said "medicine" containing mercury, among other things. The symptoms got worse as he digested more and more mercury and his state of health would have been similar to a never ending flue mixed with alzheimers.Pale skin, nausea, weakening muscles, foggy mind, migraines, lack of energy, light sensitivity, muscle aches, lack of appetite etc. As far as I know, mercury is incredibly dangerous no matter what form it comes in and it does not easily leave your body.
Mercury is not only in vaccine, but also in fish. It also absorbs through the skin.
Itt: people who have bought into govt proppganda machine.
>anything and everything sold in stores is laced with toxins or chemicals
>even fucking childrens toys had carcegenic materials
>there should be no use of pesticides or gmos because 30% of crops dying is natural selection, aka those werevthe weak links
>any and every pill is dangerous. Especially powder forms of protein
>wondering why we have cancer illness etc etc and cant beat it ourselves
>hidden lies in research show up til 300 years ago humans could live up to and over 200 years old. More lies of them to 30 are spread
The form that used to be used in vaccines would get metabolized to ethyl mercury which you body can be rid of fairly easily. The issue is methyl mercury which is formed by bacteria in the presence of elemental mercury.
>All the people ITT that don't understand the immune system or vaccines but think they know what their talking about.
People should read textbooks on immunology before they start talking about this shit.
Not going to read through all the shit on here.
Do you cunts who are anti-vaxx actually realise there is no Thermisol (i.e. Mercury) in vaccines anymore?
I'd rather have a vaccine than smallpox.
step 1: Call up the poison control center and ask how much chlorine and elemental sodium is safe to injest. The answer will be zero.
Step 2. Realize your entire body is full of NaCl and you eat it every day because its required for you to survive. Also realize is in every IV bag, every injection, eye drops almost all food.
step 3. kill yourself.
You're absolutely right about fluoride. But they also put bromide in the water, they are equally dangerous in big amounts.
In case people don't know why: Fluoride mimics the properties of iodine in that it bonds in the thyroid gland in the neck. It is so potent that it even replaces iodine, but it doesn't have the same properties, instead it weakens the thyroid.
The thyroid is a gland that controls hormones in the body, if it is deficient in iodine, your body will produce less testosterone (could be why city people, especially men are becoming more feminine and gay today) and it has been proven in an experiment in USA that an increase in fluoride in the water was able to decrease the IQ of the people in that area of up to 15 points. Not only does it fog up the mind, it also makes people neutral and dull making them give up.
Russia, Germany, UK and the US knew fluorides effect on the body as early as 1940 during the second world war, which is why they heftily increased the fluoride levels in the water given to the POW's in concentration camps so that they would lose the fight in them and make them easier to handle.
The fluoride levels in the tap water today are supposedly acceptable, but we're not taking into account that they put a lot of fluoride in industrially produced bread, tooth paste etc. which means we get too much fluoride into our systems. In addition to this, they have begun removing our largest source of daily iodine, the salt, hence making fluoride even more potent.
It is possible to filter out fluoride from your top water by a reverse osmosis-system, but it can be quite expensive as well as that people will believe you've gone nuts if you start filtering your water. (Boiling water does not remove fluoride)
Tips: use toothpaste without fluoride half of the times. Look up salt with iodine (taking iodine has proven to increase IQ, especially for developing fetuses, but taking too much is dangerous)
The only thing that anything OP said, applies to is the flu shot, that shit is for old people, and maybe infants if they have some strange immunity issue or some weird shit like that. No one else should be getting a flu shot.
I believe they work as stated and don't cause autism and would get all mine even though I have a reaction each time I get them. But I know they easily could be tuned to do malice in the future, so they should never even hint towards wanting to make them mandatory (No Jab, No pay for welfare was sickening, what's next? No Jab, House Arrest).
It seeks to brand people that don't want them like the star of david patch. I think people should be able to be rationally convinced of what goes in their body and keep that information private, and if someone can't do that then they don't get to force it in anyway - that failure of trust falls on the government.
life expectancy went up when we started bathing more frequently
plus a lot of other shit: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf
>> Aborted baby fetus cells ("MRC-5"), aluminum, mercury, egg protein... mmm I'm getting hungry
I understand that but I was saying what constitutes a vaccine, not the extras. Also I'm not disagreeing with anyone here. Just stating what's obvious.
My opinions is that for the most part vaccines are bullshit.(not all BUT MOST ARE) And the risk of mercury exposure IMO is there.
They stopped using thiomersal as a preservative (the only compound with mercury in it) because people don't understand that it gets metabolized as ethyl mercury, which, while toxic, is easily passed from the body compared to methyl mercury, which is the form that will actually cause health issues.
" Children can safely
receive flu vaccine that contains thimerosal"
" Only trace (very
tiny) amounts remain. The only childhood vaccines today that
have trace amounts of thimerosal are one DTaP and one DTaP-Hib
combination vaccine. "
That's for children. Adult vaccines with thimerosal are common:
I agree but when people get bribed by stores to get the flu shot many will do it.
>ITT everyone doesn't understand understand how vaccines work and forgets that polio, smallpox, plague, malaria, tetanus, hepatitis any letter on the alphabet, the mother-fucking flu and an awful lot more are stopped by vaccines.
Seriously guys, if you think jabs are bad for you, go live in Cameroon but dick slap your doctor instead of letting him vaccinate you against nigger diseases. How long do you think you'll last?