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>China shills in panic as pro-independence Democratic Progressive Party set to win Taiwan general election, taking both the presidency and a majority in the legislature

kek
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>>61150305
Hope the mainlanders annex Taiwan
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>>61150305
>pro-independence
That's a funny way to say pro-Japan

Doesn't matter much though, both candidates happen to be cuckservatives. One shilling for Japan and the other one for China
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>>61151499

which of them is pro America?
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>>61152332
Neither really, although Tsai doesn't actually speak Japanese herself. She's a British English speaker.
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>>61150305
Oh oh! Don't forget to mention that Sina Weibo has censored "Taiwan" search term, and that the Chink coverage censored the KMT flag and obviously the ROC flag.

Current poll count:
DPP:5.33M
KMT:3.14M
PPP:0.75M

Total electorate size: 18.3M
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>>61152417

are you saying that both of them are pro America? Or just the pro Japanese one? Cause Taiwan exists only because of the United States of A. protection, you know.
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>>61152539
Updated count:
DPP: 6.07M 59.4%
KMT: 3.21M 31.4%
PPP: 0.94M 9.2%
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>>61152654
Neither are that warm to US, but both agree about joining TPP. That's really not Taiwan's call at all, but rather what US has to say. To be honest, Taiwanese electorate know and are more receptive to Japan then they are of United States.
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>>61151499
As long as they're not pro-US globalist multicultists.
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>>61152777

Are you aware that Japan has extremely strong ties with the USA and almost no independend foreign policy? Being pro Japan is almost automatically being pro Japan's master, the USA.
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>>61150305
>Panic
lol no

I dare them to try and get uppity.
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>>61150305

real china will live again! down with shitty chinese knockoff china!
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>>61151499
I would prefer Japan over Communist China any day m8.
Any fucking day
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WW3 soon, boys?
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>>61153100

this time let's keep Europe out of it.
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>>61152850
Well not exactly. Notice how that the US doesn't want to physically involve itself with South China Sea? You are being too simplistic in saying that the patronage system decides political allegiance.

American reluctance to sell arm packages to Taiwan who goes to Washington with suitcases full of money and begging on their knees at times show how it actually is. Taiwan more or less thinks of US as the puppet master since it knows that US doesn't intervene on anyone's behalf except for those of the United States. The very fact that US is asking Japan to beef its own defense up is telling.
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Question. What are the various tawianese positions on Korea?
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>>61153247
>Notice how that the US doesn't want to physically involve itself with South China Sea?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/26/politics/south-china-sea-islands-u-s-destroyer/index.html

>American reluctance to sell arm packages to Taiwan

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/16/politics/u-s-taiwan-arms-sales/
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>>61153247

the entire system, as you already understand, has the USA at its center. If a war breaks out between Taiwan and China only the involvment of the USA will determine the outcome. Being "pro Japan" is in itself meaningless. Japan in itself is meaningless without strong armed forces and a strong control over Korea and Manchuria.
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>>61153288
Hate South Korea vehemently.
South Korea cut diplomatic recognition in 1992 like a stone-cold bitch and Korea really doesn't care much about the bilateral relations after that. They make more dosh from the PRC at any rate. Taiwanese are very butthurt about Worst Korea and some paint the Gooks as scums of the Earth.
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>>61153453
Well then mods, here's your reward.
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>>61152850
Then Why do US allowed to no immigrant policy for Japan?

Why US can't stop whale hunt even though Obama said ”Japan must stop whale hunt” on public.
also Japan voted to palestine's independent unlike US.
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>>61153386
Timed auspiciously at the end of a presidency. That's 8 years. Don't be delusional and think that this is how slow Washington normally is in terms of green lighting arms package deal to US allies.
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>>61153558
Because you're kawaii.

When you stop being kawaii, you'll grow a third thumb in an inconvenient location. As will your children's children.
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>>61153502

That doesn't matter. You do not have anything similar to NATO over there, it's all about single nation's military alliance with the USA. South Korea is doing its own by maintaining huge armed forces to keep under USA influence a strategically fundamental chunck of the Korean peninsula. The Korean peninsula is in itself a dagger pointed at Japan's throat.
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>>61153558
All that is irrelevant to geopolitics, as long as Japan has no army and remains as a tiny island you faggots depend on the USA
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This meme candidate actually stands a chance. The KMT's shit is getting cucked up.
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DPP won't do shit because Taiwan would crash if they did anything against China, Tsai Ing-Wen even said she would maintain status quo.

Now DPP shills, you can stop posting threads over threads about it.
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>>61153643
>italian
>this concerned with southeast asia
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>>61153700
Look here:
>>61153503
Take it and go feed your family.
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>>61153416
>>61153643

And you honestly think that war is the thing that the ChiCom is counting on.
News flash: the Chink leadership will only choose the war option if they seriously need a distraction, and guess what? Their grip on power is more than sound, with no coherent domestic challenge within. You have to be seriously drunk to think that Xi Jinping would need this sort of distraction. This isn't the Argentinian Junta.

I will give you that. The SEA is a joke and doesn't pose any meaningful way to counter the Chinks. Korea and Japan are only giving half-assed efforts in reconciling, while China is pursuing divide and conquer strategy across the board. The only ones that's really gotten the message and having gotten their acts together is Vietnam.
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>>61153711

East Asia actually.
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>>61150365
Get fucked indonesian faggot
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>>61153744
that surely is a nice retort

the facts are that Taiwan is already massively integrated into the mainland economy and completely depends on both the mainland market and mainland tourism
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>>61153819
There's a word for such people.
That one's from Triangapore though.
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>>61153799

China doesn't want war and doesn't want to export its political/economic system in the world, like the USSR did in the past. It's all completely different but they still have a formidable USA centered economic/political system in East Asia to smash or adapt to or wait until it collapses.
The strong grip on power of Communists in China certainly does matter, it's why America's junior partner over there is still Japan. Of course China has a lot of small potential and real enemies around it, if China sneezes literally everyone goes to cry at USA's lap.
It's a tough game and the USA will be more and more concerned about East Asia in the next decades than they have ever be.
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Taiwanese people want to be independant from china.

No one wants to live under communism

Taiwan could build nukes in 2 weeks, this should be immediately done

Then if the communists try to invade taiwan just nuke the CCP headquarters, beijing, harbin, qingdao, chongqing, it will do the whole world a favour.
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nothing will happen, just like nothing happened when the green was in power 8 years ago.

The truth is the two are way too interconnected economically that anything but the status quo will be bad for business. Right now it's more of an ego thing. My parents are Taiwanese and they know this will just be all talk and make the people feel a bit better. All out war won't happen, neither China, Taiwan or America really want a serious change at this stage.

so no happening fags, nothing will happen
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>Tzuyu will live to see an independent Taiwan

Good feel.
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>>61154003
???

Mohamed pls, if there is a war Taiwan would seize to exist.
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>>61154078
I don't know if you people are stupid but independent Taiwan will never, ever happen.

Taiwan is too integrated into China economically, the KMT is pro One China, the DPP wants to be a Japanese island and the Taiwan nationalists want all Han to fuck off.

They'll just keep prancing in the middle until they get annexed by the winner of WW3.
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>>61154031
Agreed. No real change to the status quo. Both the greens and the blues are too vested in China economically as it is.

DPP: 6.47M 60.2%
KMT: 3.23M 30.1%
PPP: 1.04M 9.7%

60% of 18.3M electorate voted so far.

KMTfags that came out of China are on suicide watch though.
Tsai assumes office on May 20.
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Yay Taiwan!

Fuck the KMT cuckold traitors I hope they rot in hell with the communists bedfellows
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>>61153648
and Australia too.

9,000 marines moved to australia from okinawa.Do you know this?
also ur cunt can't even make submarine
without foreign country's help.
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>>61154124
Not really. Theres a hundred and fifty miles of water those filthy commies have to get across to get to taiwan, and then taiwan happens to be the most well fortified island in the world with underground runways everywhere which are unbombable.

While they are trying to invade they'll have to deal with taiwans airforce and submarines and no doubt US special forces and airstrikes.

China would get REKT. Why do you think they havent already invaded?
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>>61154311
>China would get REKT.
Fucking kek, why are anglos so stupid ?

>Why do you think they havent already invaded?
Because they don't want war with anyone and so far under the KMT they were managing "peaceful integration" ?
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>>61153453
haha
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Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZtOueYSEXc

KMT admits defeat and apologises with sad music on the background.
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>>61154311
>not sure if China shill trying to make us Taiwanese look retarded
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>>61154394
Here's your 五毛 now fuck off.
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>>61154142
We more independant than UK is from America and EU la.
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>>61154481
Not your economy.
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>>61154438
Typical KMT supporter. Terrible.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp71XVww5kU

Hi everyone, I am Chou Tzuyu. Sorry, I should have came out and apologized earlier. Because I didn’t know how to face the current situation, I have been afraid to face everyone directly, so I’m only speaking out now. There is only one China. The two shores are one. I feel proud being a Chinese. I, as a Chinese, have hurt the company and netizens’ emotions due to my words and actions during overseas promotions. I feel very, very sorry and guilty. I have decided to halt all current activities in China in order to reflect seriously. Again, I apologize to everyone. Sorry.
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>>61154533
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>>61154525
Ah yes, everyone dependant on everyone nowaday anyway.
If China useful for business ok la~
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>>61154533
That was a good way to push people over the edge to vote anti-Chinese. I wonder if the goons who made her say that even realise that.
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>>61154533
>cute girl whored by south korean music industry
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>>61154245
>also ur cunt can't even make submarine
Take it as compliment. We'd be on your side in the next war anyway.
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>>61154533
I think she was voluntarily heavy-handed in the hostage-like forced apology, to rile-up Taiwan electorate and go vote Green party.

Is work hahaha
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>>61154616
They do actually. They've posted on Sina Weibo about how that this is all just a massive last minute ruse.
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>>61154604
The point is, under Ma you were driting, albeit slowly, towards One China, under DPP you may not get any closer to China but you wont suddenly drift away either, because in doing so RoC economic retaliation would totally destroy the Taiwan economy.
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>>61154677
>RoC

I meant PRC of course.
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>>61154245

lol
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>>61154666
So they say they dindunuffin and it's actually a plot against them? Now that's damage control!
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>>61154616
JYP was just thinking about his filthy chink money when he forced her to deny her nation and people exist.

She needs to leave as soon as she can, why would anyone stay contracted to a country that forces you to do that?

Fortunately a Taiwanese magazine is offering JYP 3 million USD to tear up her contract so they can bring her back to Taiwan to be a fashion model.
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>>61154729
They even lashed out at that Huang An guy and calling him a massive DPP 5th columnist that's stirring all this shit so that KMT would get reked.
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>>61154677
"Economic retaliation". Unlike chinese people Taiwanese people don't think money is everything. Certain ideals like freedom and democracy are more important than money. As a filthy mainlander, obviously you don't know these feels.
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There's no Taiwan. There's only China. Lolololololol. 台湾是中国的。
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>>61154245

if japan wasn't so fucking pacifist you guys wouldn't have to suck our cocks all the time and would be an amazing regional power.

you know we basically cucked you into your pacifistic idealism after WWII by forcing you to put it in your constitutional charter.

just fucking man up and form an armed forces. no one in except China gives a fuck anymore and fuck china.
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>>61154789
They will never understand this.
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>>61154839
But which is the real China?
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they have about as much likely hood of getting independence as norther ireland

they can dream though
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>>61154849
They still need to be told.
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>>61154677

Actually I think China is really dependent on Taiwan as well.
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>>61154787
Current count:

DPP: 6.5M 59.9%
KMT: 3.23M 29.8%
PPP: 1.17M 10.8%

Legislature now in DPP majority, may be filibusterer proof.
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>>61154839
Is true.
One big economic crisis later, the communist occupied region will be liberated by the legitimate Republic of China government.
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>>61154789
Lets not talk shit we don't know.

>people who don't care about their country's economy

But that is wrong faggot.
If they don't care they should not care about starving and being closed up like North Korea.
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>>61154926
Taiwan already is independant from china.
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>>61154926
Every time Northern Ireland has a referendum on being independent or not. 90% of people vote against it.

A pro Irish unification party has also never won total control of all Northern Ireland.

The situation in Taiwan is totally different. Most Taiwanese don't think they're part of China and a pro independence just won the presidency.
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>>61154842
Seems like America will be the only one who benefits, if China lose the power grip. So no, fuck you Americunt.
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>>61154926
Northern Ireland isn't Taiwan. The Northern Irish don't exactly have its own army for one and the political system between the two are just too different to PRC, and they have Hong Kong as the example of what happens if you get annexed.
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>>61154926
Already independant duh.
We have own money, own army, own borders.

Only missing thing is UN seat, but that is because YOU are cuck and scare of China.
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>>61155074
>America being the one who benefits
>not a good thing
Why does Singapore hate freedom so much? Is it because of envy?
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>>61154960
Just stopping Chinese tourism to Taiwan could cause major economic issues.

>>61154789
Hadn't mentally chuckled that hard in a while.
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it will be really sad if Taiwan gets gobbled up by China.

Their culture is much richer and they actually care about things like personal freedom.
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>>61154999
China depends on taiwan for most of their high tech industry. Foxconn is a taiwanese company. If china starts shit we'll just close down the factories.

All communists are good for is soldering PCB's by hand, they dont have the R&D to make a nanoscale chip, they'd be left in the dark ages, good luck CCP.
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>>61151499
Japan and South Korea are the only tolerable east-Asian countries in existence.

Singapore doesn't count, it's pretty much a city.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6-o3woKd4

#IStandWithTzuyu
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>>61155137
Democracy leads to freedom.
Freedom leads to free will.
Free will leads to gum chewing.

Innacceptable for Singapore Yoda.
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>>61154124
Anybody not on US side would cease to exist.

Your joking if you think a country with 250 nukes poses a threat to US. US could wipe out all of China within an hour, before they are even aware they are going extinct.
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>>61155074

>77% of Singaporeans approved of U.S. leadership

how does it feel knowing your countrymen like our semen inside them?
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>>61150365
Your worthless I hope Malaysia invades you.
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>>61155153
France will let in anyone it seems.

Don't you have an ecole to go to? Or is your shift in the kitchen not started yet?
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>>61155137
Singapoor is a shithole police state. They're basically butthurt chinks pretending they're not Chinese and butthurt about everything.
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>>61155137
We don't hate freedom. We have the most freedom if only you knew.

We just understand business is business. And who the fuck is going to recycle the dirty metals? Who is going to shit out products at that type of quality and speed?

You want Mexico and spice to make the world's product? Do you think the burrito eaters are big and developed enough to take over China role in the world market?

If not shut up, let Taiwan go back to China.
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>>61155313
It's saturday
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>>61155209
you think Foxconn wants an all out war you fucking retard

when push comes to shove and missiles are coming down you think it actually matters that Foxconn is pulling out of China. Fuck that noise. nobody in Taiwan wants an actual military conflict, you can talk all that good shit sitting Europe, are you going to come back here and enlist if China invaded you fucking pussy.
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>>61155209
The flip side of course, is Taiwan is getting cucked by all the outsourcing their corporations are all doing.

Manufacturing is all but gone and all that's left are head offices, IPs, and actual high tech. And you can bet your ass everyone of those outsourced companies would betray Taiwan in a second if they can make more with the communist chinks.
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>>61154842
and what's the difference with other countries?
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>>61155354
>we have the most freedom
>but we totally support communist regimes annexing parts of the free world
Very convincing Tringapore!
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Lots of Japanese watching the election livestream front page on niconico, if any of you know that site.
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>>61155425
They also have a massive brain drain to the mainland.
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>>61154839
Go back to suck 習近平's balls
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>>61155209
>http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/foxconn-to-setnew-facilitiesindia6-months_4995681.html

Foxconn is moving away from China to India, as are most tech manufacturers in China. This was part of the reason for the stock crashes. If anything, Chinese hold over Taiwan is at its peak right now, and will only go down. If they get the DPP now, then in 5 years China won't be able to do shit to them economically or otherwise.
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>>61155354
why don't you fuckers go join china yourself if you love their police state so much? even more then yours? or are you too busy pretending not to be Chinese?
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LAS ISLAS TAIWAN SON ARGENTINAS
SIEMPRE FUERON ARGENTINAS
Mate y asado not tea and chopsuey ok? praise peron!
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>>61150365
Hope the mainlanders annex singaporeans

W8

They will anyways in a matter of time ;)
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>Yes goy. Vote in more progressive democratic leaders!
>Maybe your new leaders will instill us with wholesome Western values like Sweden and Germany!
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>>61155489
t. Chinklippines
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>>61155425
>>61155315
>>61154842
why is this muritard so agressive?
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>>61155395
>would I fight dirty commies

I've been waiting all my life for the day to come.
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>>61155457
Taiwan and Japan are friends you know.
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>>61150305
chinks are so cute
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>Vouge Korea and LG will no longer be using Tzuyu as a model and have blacklisted her for her political opinions.

Honestly the thing that makes me the most mad with this scandal is that Korea is not standing by her in the face of Chinese imperialist aggression.

All she did was introduced herself as "Taiwanese" on a TV show and held a flag of Taiwan.

This isn't a controversial opinion it's something that all westerners know to be true.
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>>61150305
【情勢】蔡英文(民進党) DPP:642万0,914 6.42M 朱立倫(国民党) KMT:326万2,583 3.26M 宋楚瑜(親民党) PPP:122万6,422 1.22M
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>>61155457

Link please
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>>61155481

ARGENTINA ES ESPANOL
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>>61155500
Asians are not like Westerners. They will never invite mass immigrants. There is no White Guilt at play here.

>>61155395
Foxconn is insuring itself and diversifying. In 5 years, Taiwan won't be dependent on any one nation.

see: >>61155467

By 2020, our iPhones will be made in India, along with everything else.
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>>61155595
>in the face of Chinese imperialist aggression
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>>61155457
really?

thanks for telling it.
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>>61155115
Oh the chink got u there m8


The only reason Taiwan isn't independent it's because the west refuses to actively confront China. China can't just invade Taiwan and they want to slowly pull a Hong Kong on Taiwan slowly pushing for reunification as China becomes more and more influent, eventually Taiwan will depend on China and unification will be complete without people ever casting a single vote in favour or against it
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>>61155618
They better pottytrain the fucking hindus at the assembly lines then.
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>>61155209
Lmao, as if China NEED Taiwan. You deluded fuck. Taiwan is like China's concubine. Fuck them for convenience and pay them like whores.

If Chinese stops visiting Taiwan. Cut tourism. Taiwan will crash so hard. The Taiwanese will think it is revolution. But what they will start is a new Taiwanese cannibalism and eventually they will go back and hide in their mountains like their aboriginal.
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>>61155647
What else can you call claiming sovereignty over something which isn't yours?
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>>61155595
Nah, she is deliberately provocative and trying to inflame a war with the PRC by crossing Beijing's redlines. She is a stupid bitch and if the Taiwanese elect her it shows that they are too retarded to be trusted with government.

Taiwan is de-facto independent anyway, she is just being retarded about it in order to try to cause a potential war.

t. diplomacy pro
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>>61150305
>tfw if war ever started in asia it would probably never end
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>>61155115

China will never let you have that seat.... its not us.
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>>61155701
Tell me about the Malouines bro.
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>>61155215
>Singapore
>East Asia
memes
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>>61155603
>>61155652
live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv249072521
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>>61155725
Actually it is the USA, Nixon made a deal with Mao in which he kicked the RoC out of the UN and supported the PRC taking its place in order to get Mao's support against the Soviet Union.
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>>61155703
Are we talking about Tsai-Ian-Weng here of Tzuyu a kpop singer?

If we're talking about Tzuyu, saying your from Taiwan and holding a Taiwanese flag is no more provocative than saying you're Scottish and waving a Scottish flag.

>if the Taiwanese elect her

They pretty much already have.
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>>61155738
>Singapore
>country
memes
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>>61155480
Sg is a bridge between west and the east. You are just a Western inbred who do not understand the economy of the world. I bet you vote for Donald Trumph too. Top kek
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Unparralelled communist butthurt.

Taiwan just voted for independance

Taiwan #1

Suck on it CCP
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>>61155703
Not really. She is just showing Beijing's bullshit.

China does not have the level of control you think over its own people.

When the economy stops chugging, heads are going to start to roll. China needs foreign enemies to act as boogeyman. US strategy is just to sit by and watch them self-implode, while carefully tending the flames. It is going to be hilarious.
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>>61155894
>I bet you vote for Donald Trumph too
Are you implying this is a bad thing?
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>>61155894
Chink with a proxy detected.
No singaporean would support China, they love Taiwan

Taiwan #1
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>>61155775

Nixon was a dbag. We still voted against it in the UN.

> On 25 October 1971, Resolution 2758 was passed by the UN General Assembly, which "decides to restore all its rights to the People's Republic of China and to recognize the representatives of its Government as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations, and to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the place which they unlawfully occupy at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it."

Image is how the world voted on the resolution.
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>>61155736
The Falklands people do not reject British rule.
The Taiwanese people reject Chinese rule.

This is literally all that matters when it comes to this kind of thing. Forget history and maps.
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>>61155894
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>>61155894
Taiwan #1

Suck a dick CCP zombie.
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>>61155926
>China needs foreign enemies to act as boogeyman

How so ?

They are pretty lenient towards literally everyone from India to Taiwan
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>>61155974
British government bending over to the Chinese like usual.
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>>61155984
Who the fuck would support Chinese CCP rule?

Look at Hong Kong, political cartoonists disappear in the middle of the night and PRC floods the already crowded country with CCP drones.
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>>61155984
>The Falklands people do not reject British rule.


There are no Falkland people, only british occupiers with fucked up teeth.
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>>61155894
Why am I reading this in a thick asian accent? Sounds like late night CSGO people when you queue with people only from Japan, China, and Australia. (West Coast people will understand, Canada incl.)
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>>61156097
t. white man of Argentina
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>>61154142
this

to add on taiwan is too invested in china

all the taiwanese electronics are made in factories in china

plus a large majority of tourists that visit taiwan are chinese

piss off china and they can say no to all of these things and say byebye to tour apple products and cheapo processors
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>>61156133
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>>61154142
this

to add on taiwan is too invested in china

all the taiwanese electronics are made in factories in china

plus a large majority of tourists that visit taiwan are chinese

piss off china and they can say no to all of these things and say byebye to your apple products and cheapo processors
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>>61156017

I really respect China's FP, but there is no way its going to stay that way.

The US used to be like that too. All it took was one event to change that.

China's values are massively different from the west.... and I don't want to imagine a world where China pushed its ideology like the US does.
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>>61155961
Please do, i like to see how building walls and asking Mexico to pay it is going to go down.

>>61155974
I don't support China or Taiwan you dipshit. I support economy. Nobody is capable of replacing China role in the global market. Only the stupid and the reactionary, bad intention for China, not out of reason but out of fear that China will grow in power.
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>>61156017
Please. They are setting up US to be the 'evil oppressor', and they are obsessed with their islands nobody gives a shit about. Yet they drone on endlessly on their news about it.

CCP China will collapse in our lifetimes. Once the economy starts to struggle they are finished. Replacing freedom with materialism only works for so long, especially when people are already in the middle income level. Dictatorships only work on the underclass.
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>>61156176
Taiwan is already independent.
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the real question is is it good for world jewry?
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>>61156194

Of cheap manufacturing? You must be dreaming.

There are countless places.... the only reason China retains its spot is because they manipulate their currency. If they let it rise, goods wouldn't be worth manufacturing there anymore even though they do an amazing job.
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>>61156194
>what are tariffs
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>>61156204
>Once the economy starts to struggle they are finished. Replacing freedom with materialism only works for so long, especially when people are already in the middle income level. Dictatorships only work on the underclass.
You end of history retards still exist?
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>KMT had a war against CCP for control of the mainland.
>KMT says they are still the rightful ruler of all of China
>KMT is the PRO China party
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>>61156176
>implying India won't be making our cheap iPhones by 2025

Keep sucking day Chinese dick worst Korea
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>>61156152
>http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/foxconn-to-setnew-facilitiesindia6-months_4995681.html

Taiwan is diversifying. By 2020, they can say fuck you to China as everything will be manufactured in SEA and India.

For 10 straight months China has posted negative manufacturing indexes with no end in sight. Stock market is crashing and ghost cities are still empty. Economy is going to stutter and people will start demanding more transparency and freedom from the government.
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>>61156286
Now you know how retarded the KMT and KMT supporter are.
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>>61156204
t. Neocon
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>>61156279
>You end of history retards still exist?

Dictatorships only work on societies of poor underclass people.

There are no middle-income class dictatorships, baring the Oil Kingdom theocracies.

This is common sense, rising income and education always leads to demands of freedom.

CCP is fighting against human nature, and they will lose. Power of greed and materialism can only go so far.
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>>61150305
>pro independence party

Thats the U.S. funded Chinese version of

>pro-democratic moderate muslim rebells who may or may not behead you if you vote the wrong person into power and don't follow sharia law and you don't belong to the sunni sect
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>>61155963
agreed
mainland chinese are loud, rude, filthy and speak english with a horribly thick accent
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>>61156275
If China stops work for a day. The world leaders will panic. The good thing about China is, they are practical and economically motivated. China is developing faster than every country in this world.

It is good time to learn Chinese and Japanese now. Faggots.

It is funny how Taiwanese are trying to bite the hands that feeds them. I hope they learn from history. And don't end up like the French and the recent Egyptians or hongkies.
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>>61156325
>Economy is going to stutter and people will start demanding more transparency and freedom from the government.
Nah, if the CCP falls some sort of ultranationalists twill end up taking power in China. Democrats are seen as suspicious pro-western people. Whereas nationalists have been allowed by the CCP to have a lot more lee-way, which means they have the movement and capacity to step into the void that would be created by the CCP losing power.

The Chinese peasants are also pro-Mao nostalgics so populist movements would be very strong.

>>61156508
t. An increasingly authoritarian Oligarchy which has been that way for decades and nobody in your country gives a damn
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Its 11am on saturday and i wake up to the news that taiwan voted for the DPP. I think I'll roll a zoot to celebrate!
Gonna go out later and get some bubble tea and find some chinese studenta to laugh at.

Taiwan #1
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>>61156542
>China is developing faster than every country in this world

niceme.me
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>>61156563
America is literally third world though.
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>>61156594

truth m8. we dont even have internet
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Where can I find a Taiwanese gf?
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>>61156594
I don't think so.
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>>61156542
>If China stops work for a day

Manufacturing would just shift to other countries. Don't be stupid, China is crashing right now. GDP growth this year is the lowest it has been in over 20 years.

China is hitting the middle income trap where they will crawl under 2-3% growth rates like Korea, while the rest of Asia grows at +5% averages. Their advantage is collapsing.
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>>61156657
>he believes in exponential growth
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>>61156542
>China is developing faster than every country in this world.

Nope. Worst growth rates in over 20 years, next year they will drop to 5% then 4%, assuming they don't go into a recession.
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>>61156648

Prob in Taiwan
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>>61156563
>Nah, if the CCP falls some sort of ultranationalists twill end up taking power in China.

Yeah, you'll end up like Russia, a democracy with heavy state control.
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>>61156648
in Korea.
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>>61156698
>he believes Taiwan will be economically dependent on China forever.

They are pulling out now, while they see you collapse. People are pulling money out of China, lack of transparency and roller coaster stock markets.
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>>61156779
>Russia is a democracy
You cannot be this naive.
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>>61156558
Taiwan #1
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>>61156873
>He thinks Putin isn't an extremely popular leader

State controls the media, but Putin is the real deal populist leader. He doesn't manipulate his poll numbers or elections, because he doesn't need to do so.
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>>61156705
>india is doing that good
And I thought the curryniggers didn't have it in them.
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>>61156508
>Dictatorships only work on societies of poor underclass people.

Disregard Ancient Rome empire.
Disregard Ancient China.
Disregard Ancient Egypt.

France was once a superpower under monarchy. The stupid ruined it with French revolution. France is cuck ever since, never gotten back on their feet, waves white flag every time they see bullets flying. LOL

Anyway, you are a stupid fuck who do not learn from history. And you will be bounded to repeat it again, if most Americunts is like you, America will fall.
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>>61156966
You're silly, growth is always bigger the less you have, India is even more backward than Somalia but they enjoy massive foreign investment and the shifting there of manufactures from China (like Vietnam) due to Chinese wages increasing.
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>>61156926
he killed all credible competition and when he dies russia is in deep shit because there's no possible replacement anymore. nobody has the connections
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>>61156508
>There are no middle-income class dictatorships
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>>61156926
>He thinks being popular means you are a democracy
Pro-tip: Pic related was also popular when he was running a one party state.

>He doesn't manipulate his poll numbers or elections
He rigged the last election in his own favour, he still would have won, just added more to make himself seem more legitimate.

Even Xi Jinping enjoys high approval ratings among Chinese, yet nobody would call him a democrat.

China has sham elections as well by the way.
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>>61151499
Surely Japan is better than China though? Nips actually have human rights and don't let babies shit in public
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>>61156741
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>>61157031
At first glance I read that as "shitting there of manufactures from China". Ah pol, what have you done to me.
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>>61153046
>modern day China
>communist
What year is it?
You stopped reading books after ww ii
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>these claims
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>>61157175
He only reads books endorsed by McCain and Cheney.
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>>61156975
Geez man, did America kill your baby or something
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>>61150305
Good, the 'peoples' republic is the biggest threat to freedom in the region, if not the world.
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>>61157196
they're basically claiming the Qing empire
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>>61157175
Most of these sorts of people do not even know that the CCP changed its official ideology and abandoned things such as class warfare, now they favour class collaboration and are pro-business.
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>>61156966
They went through their socialist phase earlier on, now it is capitalism.

Unfortunately Yurop wants to head in the opposite direction :(

>>61156975
>Disregard Ancient Rome empire.
>Disregard Ancient China.
>Disregard Ancient Egypt.

All of those were agrarian societies that were +95% illiterate and without a real middle class. Are you even trying?

No country will a strong, educated middle-income majority society will ever desire to live in an autocratic police state. CCP is hoping propaganda and internet policing can do the trick, but history says otherwise. I will give them until 2040, at best. There will be 1988s every few years by then.

Also you way of speaking is so stereotypically Chinese with the capitalized LOL, I can't even...
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>Some taiwanese kpop star started ww3.

Cant say i saw that one coming.
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>>61156657
>crawl under 2-3% rates
>the low down
Compare China with Korea. Even on the scale of things, it is just wrong.

You probably know nothing about economy, the slow down is inevitable, especially when a country becomes more and more developed.

This is most basic of all economy. From a 3rd world shit stain, China is becoming more developed in the past 15 years. A short 15 years and America fear their growth in power.

Both military and economically.

America is holding their dicks in the hands, preaching for peace and becoming more bureaucratic.

Does this reminds you of how Rome begin their decline?
Bringing home the soldiers is America's greatest mistake.
Eventually, America will not be able to start a war because they will become soft and incompetent.

History will repeat itself, just like in ancient Rome, the superpower, the legion stopped marching and starting preaching for peace. They nailed their own coffin. Enjoy while your empire stands, America.
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>>61155595
Source?
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>>61157375

Did you get molested by an american as a child by any chance?
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>>61157226
Fuck off la, it is facts.

>>61157251
>Disregard culture
>Disregard ancient technology
>Disregard superpower in history

This is why America will fall, you are too impudent and hubris. You preach about democracy at the same time. You want democracy to be spread worldwide but you don't learn from the history that it is made from.

Democracy came from Ancient Greek, which was pass on by Ancient Rome. Athenian democracy was the most based, only men who serve their nation, gets to vote. Their women back then know their place.
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>>61157375
15 years from now SEA will stop being a joke and Indonesia a world power, and India will be breathing down your backs the same way you think are breathing down ours.

The greatest thing is that America has a nice beautiful ocean separating us, and unlimited power to divide, conquer, and control from a safe distance.

And you are a fool if you think America's real empire is its army. America's real armies are Hollywood, McDonalds, and Coke a Cola. The only way to beat us is to become us with your own versions of our comoditized garbage, and by that time you will enter into the same conundrum you think is mutually exclusive to US and not to China.
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>>61157512
I don't even hate America. In fact, I like their war machine, the most powerful force on the fact of the earth. Even if the world is united their armies, they are nothing compared to USA. I am rather displeased because they stopped.
America should have marched on.
Keep all the hot zones HOT. Keep their supplying soldiers. But they didn't learn from History. So the great empire will fall.
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>>61157703
>Singapore is a developing country.
One of the high tech society in the world.

Indonesia still a 3rd world.

If anything, SG will be the first regional power of SEA.
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>>61157764
There there, Chen.
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>>61154394
confirmed chink proxy shill
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>>61158236
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She thanked the US and Japan for their support in the press conference
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>>61154839
Go get fucked by 习大大
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>>61152332
>which of them is pro America?
is anyone beside eastern europeans that anymore after all this?
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>>61153937
you think india will come over and support japan and south korea and vietnam or are they doing their own thing?
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>>61158508
Maybe Europe should have increased military as requested instead of blowing it all on social programs.
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>>61153799
>having gotten their acts together is Vietnam.

How? Our government bought some Su-30s and like 5 or 6 submarines from Russia but it is just a tiny increase compare to China assets in the area.

Unlike, the Philippine, we have no guarantee of support from the US or any rival of China and thus, have no leverage to negotiate with China.
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>>61154842
But that's exactly what Abe is going for
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>>61156286
KMT got co opted by cuckservatives under ma and alienated their original base.
DPP has and was always known as a Japanese shill, so they are also cuckservatives

Then again our equivalent of the UKIP has a decendent of Chiang Kai Shek leading and got the vote today so I'm happy
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>>61158933
I'll say this. The Viets have been hitting the road and signing trade agreements while realistically assessing its military. I actually ran into the Viet trade delegation that hit up Taiwan not long ago, and they've gone to Japan and Korea as well. They are diversifying the trade portfolio with banking establishment now.
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>>61159173
How do we fight China with FTAs? If China decides to blockage us, we can't do jack shit. No country is dependable enough on Vietnam's market to risk a sour relation with China.

Without exports and investments from foreigners, Vietnam will have no choice but accept any terms proposed by China. TPP and AFTA be damned.
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>>61155595
No one gives a shit about your kpop shit motherfucker

It has the least of relevance to the situation at hand
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next step.
founding state.

yeah fuck you murica nobody care about your feeling cause you throw the island to chinese 70 years ago and not even trying to fix your shit.

and fuck the chinese cause you fuck us up too.
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>The People's Republic sets a deadline for the annexation of Taiwan
>It collapses in the meantime
>The Republic of China then proceeds to retake the land and make China great again.

Watch it happen guys.
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Regardless of whether she is a pro nippon shill or chink shill its still better than the EuRAPEzone's morons who queue up to take jamal's dick and provide welfare benefits to spread radical islam at the cost of ordinary hardworking citizens.

God bless east asia and the no nonsense confucian cultures we have, although everyone still hates each other for some stupid reason.
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God you guys are inconsistent.

China = stands for everything you guys stand for; anti LGBT, fucks the shit out of Muslims who stir up shit, strong national identity

Taiwan = pandering to another ethnicity, governing party literally called DEMOCRATIC PROGRESSIVE PARTY

Conservatism is only fun when it's yours and liberalism is only bad when it's yours
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>>61160135
The Chinese saved your balls in 2008 because they were hungry for your iron you retard
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>>61161127
>strong national identity
Tippity top kekkity kekkington

You mean a fake national identity built after completely wiping out their actual history?
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>>61161127
DPP is just as conservative as KMT, the only difference is that believe Taiwan is Japanese
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>>61161425

How do you wipe out what has already happened?


The facts are, pasta, that there is no way to change the government without setting back the Chinese people as a whole several hundred years by the destruction of lives and infrastructure, so they're the best they've got
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please let the twice fans shit here, we don't want them on /mu/
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>>61155693
Smaller islands in the orient do just fine without china. Look at Hong Kong, they were fine under the brits. Now Taiwan can become America's Hong Kong
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>>61161922
No one in Taiwan wants America, some want Japan, some want China, small amount of natives wants all the Han out.
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>>61162088
They want America more then Japan.
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>>61162088
Japan is America
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>>61162356
Not in the mind of Taiwan cucks.

>>61162313
No one in Asia wants America.
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>>61162410
>No one in Asia wants America.
Worst Korea
Japan
Taiwan
Philippine

Wang pls
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>>61151499
B-but everyone love Japan. Why would anyone want to be anti-Japan?
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>>61162507
>Worst Korea
lel, they've been getting closer to China and further from America every damn year for 15 years

>Japan
don't make me laugh, you're literally the only specific nationality to be banned from places, Abe being a plant doesn't change it

>Taiwan
You're irrelevant to them, their duality is China/Japan

>Philippine
lel

>Wang pls
Nope, sorry, pure blooded American hating French
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>>61161549
>How do you wipe out what has already happened?

Do you even Orwell?
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>>61162566
>B-but everyone love Japan. Why would anyone want to be anti-Japan?
Other Asians hate Japan because muh WWII and occupation
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>>61150305

#OPENBORDERSFORTAIWAN
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>>61162787
I can say there are more people in Taiwan would like to be the 51st state than join Japan.
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>>61163535
The current vote proves you wrong though.
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>>61157059
I do like Japan, but not the green party guys with their whitewashing of Japanese atrocious in WWII and trying to disown Chiang Kai Shek as a war criminal
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>>61163573
The current vote only says we don't want China.
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>Trump wins and these ungrateful slopes are on their own against China and their pet North Korea
>unless they start paying us
Noice
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>>61163535
I'm sure that's a very common feeling in the American-located disapora.
I fucking wonder why...
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#TZUYUPROTECTIONSQUAD
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>>61163988
I think living in America turns people into massive brainwashed retards, my father lived 5 years there and it took 20 years to cure him from American retardation.
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>>61154789
>Unlike chinese people Taiwanese people don't think money is everything
hahaha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Taiwan_food_scandal

hahaHAHA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kaohsiung_gas_explosions

HAHAHAHA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Shui-bian_corruption_charges
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>>61164147
perfect rape target for glorious armies of nippon and north korea ;)
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>>61150305
Good night, Taiwan.
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>>61163913
>>unless they start paying us
You are already being paid. Japan, Korea and Taiwan all buy American Treasury Bonds. That IS direct payment to the US government.
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I'm Taiwanese and I think Taiwan should be a prefecture of Japan
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>>61156107
>implying they don't immediately boot me off their server because of the Chinese sleeper agents who hold the majority of seats in power can't be seen together with any other Asian nation
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>>61157175
You know the government still goes into rural areas, shoot farmers and take their land right? Fucking idiot.
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>>61166169
lol what the fuck are you reading
>>
Taiwan #1
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PRC on suicide watch
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>>61161549
>he doesn't know about the great cultural revolution
>He shitposts about china being good

Get fucked aussiecuck
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>>61165792
They must think of the 1-year-ago Merkel =/
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>>61169143
>They must think of the 1-year-ago Merkel =/
To be fair, Merkel IS the most powerful woman on the planet right now. So despite having not much else in common I can understand why they use her image here.
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>>61166052
So does China. So do many countries. And it isn't a payment, it's a loan on which they're paid interest.
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>>61158508

The US military is the only thing preventing Taiwan from being invaded and annexed within the next 5 minutes for decades.

PRC military strategy documents continue to focus on reconquering Taiwan as their #1 priority.

They even built mock versions of Taiwanese government building for training.
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>>61151499
Formosa, come join us again instead.
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>>61151499
which one lets the yellow horde have more children? we need the one that limits children.
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Frank Yang > Mao Zetong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byfc6SBqM-w
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>>61157950

This guy is nuts. He's simply shooting off cause he's caught up in the wave of Chinese nationalism in the backdrop of a rising China.

Dude- wake up. Even if you are a Singaporean Chinese, there is NO WAY the mainland Chinese will even give a rats ass about we Chinese Singaporeans or our fates. We are literally SECOND CLASS colonial dogs in their eyes. They view us no differently from the Chinese from HK, Taiwan, or in the us. If Singapore was as far as Taiwan was from the mainland, there is no doubt that they would claim us as their own as well.

Singapore''s destiny lies in preserving a balance of power in the Asia Pacific region so that there is political and economic space for tiny countries in the region like us to prosper and continue with our way of life. It's NOT to our interests for anyone super power to hold sway over the entire region. Imagine having ALL of our businesses only in China after they dominate the region - if they decide to squeeze us by cutting trade when we piss them off, our whole economy is finished.

Don't let racism or ethnic chauvinism blind you to what we need for our national survival. Lee Kuan Yew knew full well what would happen if China fully dominates the region. Which is why he wants the US to continue being engaged in the region. Don't be a fool.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN0vUlljX0I

>Taiwan #1

RIES CHINA STRONK!!!
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>>61163535
>there are more people in Taiwan would like to be the 51st state than join Japan.
But this isnt even due to politics, sheltered taiwanese folk who don't into english have an over glorified and ignorant perception of usa....
>want to be 51st state because white fever
How many sjw's can you find in taiwan anyway? :^)
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>China's economy crashing
>Taiwan going independence despite PRC military threats

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP, TSAI
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>>61170164

this anon understands geopolitics
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN0vUlljX0I

Meanwhile in China
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>>61169920
>So does China. So do many countries. And it isn't a payment, it's a loan on which they're paid interest.
The US Treasury Bond earns BELOW inflation. The only reason it is bought is to pay the US, as tribute.
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>>61170401
It's pay to play.

You want to export into US market, you need to buy bonds.

Japan and China are the #1 exporters into the USA no strings attached and thus require tribute.
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>>61170301

Unfortunately more of my countrymen could use more education in what's going on around us. Most Singaporeans take our comfortable life for granted and don't see the threats looming on the horizon.

If Trump wins, he can balance China well. But he can't do it using American power alone. The key to achieving a mutually beneficial balance is NOT to confront the Chinese directly. But to ensure that there are strong regional architecture like ASEAN and APEC where multiple parties in the region can engage global powers on equal terms for a win-win outcome.

I only pray Trump is smart enough to realise that such soft diplomacy is the way forward. Playing hardball with the Chinese will destroy us all and get America unnecessarily stuck in the Asia Pacific region spending tons of tax money on weaponry which could better be used for helping the economy.
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>>61155894
Hey fuckface why don't you move to china and suck commie dick instead.

I love taiwan

>>61157639
>>61157950
Your penis is fucking tiny. Also hilarious that you enjoy being circumcised.

>>61170164
>>61170774
Are you a teacher?
You sound like one.
This is a compliment btw.
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>>61170019
That's actually a nice option, too bad people here don't take nicely to gaijins as you would like to think.
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>>61150365
Taiwan is the only good china
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>>61170083
Both do, but KMT is the one that actively promotes intermarriage between mainland.
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I'm (1.17)% on my investments for the YTD.

And I invested in very low risk low china related. The China related stocks are basically down (7%-10%) YTD.

China is so fucking corrupt, they are so scared to show the world the true state of their economy. They are so scared to let their exchange crash to the right level. They are so scared, they put in $3 Trillion in stimulus compared to $700B US TARP.

And China's interior provinces racked up 200% debt to GDP.

Taiwan #1. China #4.
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>>61171092
KMT promotes cuckoldry?
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>>61171149
Not exactly, Hans are still Hans despite living in different lands.
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Taiwan has one of the lowest fertility rates in the world.
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>>61162787

This guy is embarrassing.
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>>61171149
>KMT promotes cuckoldry?
KMT was created by Chinese people, so they still think they are part of China. That's why they lost this election; the population told them to back off.
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>>61153247
>Well not exactly.

Yes fucking exactly. We are their army, you nigger.
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>>61171249
What are the new president's policies like?
Is she more conservative or more progressive?
Will she be importing refugees like Merkel?
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>>61153558
>Then Why do US allowed to no immigrant policy for Japan?

The US of A for all the bad that it does, is the most moral righteous country in the world. Freedom is king here. Freedom to carry guns, be gay, to say dumb things. Puerto Rico and Hawaii are prosperous nation, yet only Hawaii is part of the US of A.

We honor liberty, so we honor Japan's need to be self independant. Compare a nation under our control to a nation under China's control and you can notice the difference in a second.
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>>61171795
>What are the new president's policies like?
>Is she more conservative or more progressive?
>Will she be importing refugees like Merkel?
Her party is pro-Taiwan and is against strengthening Chinese ties. However since she is new we can't exactly know what she would actually do. Right now the priority is the economy and social welfare.

I don't think there is any refugees anywhere near Taiwan. But I think you are joking with the last question.
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>>61171117
Eh, Ma has ingrained too much of the Taiwanese economy into the mainland within his 8 years in office it's irreversible at this point.
Tsai has three options:
a) Do a Crimea on the Mainland and cede Taiwan to Japan, igniting a brutal war between China and Japan+USA.
b) Staunchly cut off the ties and have Taiwan experience a Greece style crash, resulting in a KMT landslide in 2020, eventually resulting in unification.
c) Be bound to the current status quo till the KMT retakes the stage 8 years later, thereby ending in unification

Scenario A would be East Asia's Armageddon, so almost impossible to happen
Scenario B would require her to have guts and not be a cuckservative, which judging from her track record is also highly unlikely so that narrows the odds.

In fact she just announced right now that she's going to work hard to keep up the status quo.
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>>61155693
Holy shit you chinks are delusional
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>>61172149
I go back to Taiwan on a yearly basis and don't it turning into the rape capital of Asia.
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>>61171795
1) Keep up the current status quo, as she just announced on television live.
2) She's as progressive as Abe is, DPP and KMT are both cuckservative parties that shill for different countries.
3) No, Chinese people despise SEAs by default, and I doubt there would be a mass immigration by Japan or Korea
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Taiwan will pay for this

Just watch
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>>61172468
How does Taiwan's 'progressivism' compare to that of the US?
Are they extreme to the point of adding multiple pronouns, all men are evil, etc etc?
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>>61172699
No, you'll be sent to a mental hospital if you pull that shit here.
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>>61172499
Yeah they will force the next Olympic organizers to not display our flag. How can we survive...
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>>61172699
>How does Taiwan's 'progressivism' compare to that of the US?
>Are they extreme to the point of adding multiple pronouns, all men are evil, etc etc?
Taiwan has universal healthcare. I guess that makes Taiwan Communists to the GOP....
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>>61173671
It's actually sustainable because we're such a small society.
Sadly it discourages people from being doctors.
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>>61173773
>It's actually sustainable because we're such a small society.
Well Taiwan has the population size of Australia, or 2/3rd of Canada. So unless you mean landmass, Taiwan isn't small.
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