Explain how this man, no matter how much support he continues to gain, or how many primaries he wins, cannot get the nomination
I converted 6 liberals to Trump just today by using this. That may not seem like much, but have you ever tried to reason with a liberal?
Hillary already has the delegates secured for the nomination
Bernie was never meant to be a serious choice. he was only supposed to energize the left with his crazy theories, and make hillary look sane by comparison.
This is his economic plan. Once he goes toe to toe with Trump later on in the year people are going to realize this and clutch their heads in despair because they've been backing the wrong horse the whole time.
it's possible that Benny get nomination.
I would not underestimate camp Clinton, though.
Hillary has the party wrapped around her finger.
He is fucked.
What amazes me if how Hillary is an overpowering threat to him, but he just ignores her and attacks Republicans. He's not running against the Republicans, he's running against Hillary.
Obama was younger than Hillary, more charismatic than Hillary, had wide appeal to minorities, outspent Hillary, and he still would have lost to her in 2008 if Florida and Michigan would have had their votes counted by the DNC. None of that is true for Bernie, Hillary Clinton is still the presumptive nominee.
So was a proto MGTOW, that's no worse than being a filthy socialist.
I really like Trump, but I'm voting for Bernie because he is going to bust up the banks.
And a Jew Socialist in the white house.. strange times..
I think that Trump is going to win, but I am voting for Bernie anyway.
If Hillary wins the nomination I'm voting Trump or Gary Johnson in protest.
Then why do all the young people in college towns I visit seem to be crazy for Bernie like they were Obama in 2008? You cant go a block without seeing a bunch of Bernie bumper stickers.
Hell, even old people and others I've seen have them around. I don't think crazy people care about age, they care about message. And the DUDE FREE SHIT thing is resonating with the mongoloids
>He always looks like he just got busted as the villain on Scooby Doo
The most astute observation of this man that I have ever seen, hands down.
You've basically described what Trump is to the GOP.
THATS HOW THIS SHIT STARTED. Young people spread propaganda and shit like wildfire, media and simpletons pick it up thinking its "news" and people accept it as fact. Thats how you got Obama.
They're trying to romanticize the word "socialism", making posts about how its not a dirty word and so on.
Sanders is appealing to the youth and minorities pretty strongly these days. And as of the recent polls in Iowa, there are now media outlets treating him like he's actually a real opponent for her.
I have a feeling that Clinton's going to be blown away and it will shock a lot of people who haven't been paying attention to the rest of the candidates.
whats all this about hillary getting the nomination? shes facing 2 fbi investigations, a bengazi film, and she has a billion skeletons in her closet, all while flip flopping on her major campaign points.
ive not met one single person massachusetts whod vote for her. most here are for trump or sanders.
Silly, OP. Socialism ISN'T a dirty word. The country has several socialist programs that people take for granted every day. The brand of socialism that Sanders is boasting isn't the same as your extreme-end facism or communism, but democratic socialism. His socialism is the kind where he wants the people's votes to matter and for elected representatives to actually represent the people that voted for them.
You're vastly underestimating Obama's magic and overestimating Sanders's. They aren't even on the same planet. The generation that actually votes grew up during the red scare and unlike the younger generation have built successful lives around a no gibs state.
>Clinton grows complacent and loses DNC
>GOP finally stops acting like fags and accepts their Trump fate
>Trump btfo of Bernie by revealing what an angry old cunt Bernie is
Really hope I'm not delusional and this happens.
True 1st post.
Have 90 eggs
Shillary will never face punishment for anything she has done. She is untouchable and everyone knows shes not above murder and intimidation to get her way. She just has to scream "muh vagina" to lock up 80% of the female vote. She is basically the devil. No way she doesn't get the democratic nomination.
Besides, Sanders would get killed in a debate with Trump. Shillary is a high level sociopath so she'll survive contact with Trump. At least, that's the conventional wisdom.
Obama had some pretty good stuff going on, but I think you're underestimating Sanders here as well. His points appeal to the old that want the next generation to be in good shape, but they also appeal to the younger generation that is getting more and more loud and rowdy about the shit economy that they just got dumped into when they became adults. You can call them entitled if you want, but they want change and there's an awful lot of them.
Oh god you're one of them. Go back to Reddit
>Go back to reddit
I haven't been, but I heard it's pretty shit.
Also, try harder, please. I know the board title is politically incorrect, but you're starting to look desperate that your point isn't going to be met with the approval that you were looking for.
Because that is not his job
His job is to stir up the youth vote then shill for Hillary full steam
I do have serious reservations about voting for a socialist. But he seems honest enough and breaking up the banks is absolutely vital to our economic recovery. If Trump came out in favor of destroying the telecom monopolies and the breaking up huge banks I would vote for him over Bernie.
I like Trump's ideas, I just don't trust him. He is an actor and he is playing a part. Bernie is a real person and he is fighting against a great evil (Hillary Clinton). Trump just strikes me as a very rich man who wants to be king. And I am okay with that, but I think that Bernie just represents me better.
And free college means-
That is out of context af. It was a long time ago and (if i remember correctly) it was about the collapse of monogamous relationships and that being one of the many many many many many things said in that essay that help argue his point. In no way was he supporting these actions he was, as usual, being real about what is the new normal and what people actually crave opposed on what they seem to want.
I have two degrees already.
I am a savant. I just take classes because I enjoy learning. Neuroscience via Jeanette Nordon, Chemistry via Michael Cima, and right now I'm learning to code for a game I'm working on, (and because I also enjoy scripting and programming)
You're having such a problem figuring out how it played out because it never did. Go damnit i almost wish reddit dint snag Bernie up as their choice because if not /pol/ would be on his dick but reddit might actual get more people his vote so fuck it nawwwmean?
What I mean to say is that when Hernie says 'free college' he means shitty online college. Which is fine by me! They are finally offering credits for the classes. So why the fuck is anyone paying for college anymore? It's already free.
superdelegates and internal DNC politics.
fuck off kike. I am a communist and i've been here since new.
/pol/ is for free speech.
But Anon, a fuckton of the country's top economists already agreed to support his minimum wage raise.
Some things are just better to do face to face. I have a BME, so some of that degree would have been literally impossible to do online. But even then, some classes that I could imagine being possible online wouldn't have been nearly as effective as doing them in person with an instructor onhand.
Personally, I'm going back for my masters with the understanding that I am the kind of person that is more productive when they are around and work with other people anyway. Free online courses might be fine for self-enrichment, but I need to be in the thick of it to get into the heavier stuff.
>A man who's been sitting on his ass for 30+ voting for the establishment on everything except "do we go to war"
>Surprised he plays along with the establishment
That's the ultimate redpill to Bernie Cucks. I understand why they like Bernie, I doubt most of them would take his socialist principles really seriously if they were looked at a microscope but they are absolutely convinced he is anti-establishment when they don't realize you literally can't be anti-establishment and be a politician for that long. He's done nothing but shut and do what the Dems told him to do for the past 30 years, the only bills he's introduce himself were renaming post offices and funding VA hospitals, in over 30 years he's gotten 3 bills to pass of his own authorship.
I hope he wins, because I want to see reddit's tears when in the first debate, Trump takes his big alpha cock and shoves it up Bernie's ass.
The guy is a weak old career politician who hates white males. Fuck him.
>been here since new
I bet you think that means you're special or something.
>>But he seems honest enough and breaking up the banks is absolutely vital to our economic recovery.
Yeah? Then take all of your money out of banks and don't accept checks. Don't barrow or invest in anything...
Try surviving without moving into your parents basement. Lets see how well you recover from financial ruin.
Marxists are always looking to destroy something and do jack-fucking-shit to recover anything.
I didn't say destroy the banks. They are just too large. They need to be broken up into smaller banks that compete with one another.
And I do everything in my power to be bank-free, but it's damned near impossible. I should be free from them by next year though, if I'm lucky. Bitcoin and other alternative currencies are the future. And the old oil economy is over. Time for something better.
The banks are too big and too powerful. They need to be regulated. I don't think that Trump will do that.
Anderson Cooper did alright. He asked him straight up if he wasn't a capitalist and Bernie said no. Also he asked him if "black lives matter", or do "all lives matter"? And of course he picked nigs.
They're inept. They never learned anything besides asking the same dozen questions and nodding at both answers. When you hire through nepotism you get incompetents.
Did you notice how many Canadian Jews are newscasters?
>Go damnit i almost wish reddit dint snag Bernie up as their choice because if not /pol/ would be on his dick
This might be the dumbest post i've ever seen on /pol/.
We don't have such differing opinions about him because we hate each other. Our hatred of each other stems from how different we are, and that explains why reddit loves him while /pol/ despises him.
He capitulated to those black lives matter idiots
He wants to raise taxes absurdly
He's a socialist
He's extremely socially liberal
He has a D- rating from the NRA
He's everything /pol/ hates. I can't imagine how fucking blind to politics you'd have to be to ever think the people who browse this board would support him.
I originally came to /pol/ as a liberal and many of the ideas here rubbed off on me. But I don't have the same fear of socialism or liberalism as many of the people here.
I could vote for Bernie or Trump, even though they are on opposite extremes.
>anderson cooper did alright
No ones really sat down and asked bernie how he plans to make pseudo Norway wet dream cone true on an already over burdened (taxed) working class with a lethargic moving government that will have absurd amounts of pork barrel legislation that will go into party supporters over an actual american government?
But i guess asking if he's a socialist is "alright"
>>They need to be broken up into smaller banks that compete with one another.
Bank of America
Patriot National Bank
So you want to break all of these up into smaller banks? Mind you, that list doesn't even include the thousands of small town banks (or foreign banks.)
And your idea is to allow smaller (or foreign banks) to have some sort of advantage over more successful banks. Or make the IRS drown them in regulations so that more successful banks & businesses operate with a handicap compared to others simply for being more successful?
I think that people should be able to go to college, be covered by a socialist healthcare system, and they should be protected against extreme poverty via social programs such as unemployment insurance, welfare, and foodstamps
I don't care if we tax the rich 90% to do it. They can fuck off to some other country if they don't like it. The country will be stronger and healthier if everyone is taken care of on a basic level. We can afford it and it's the right thing to do.
The boom bust cycle of capitalism is real fun, but socialism just sort of levels it out and makes it better for everyone. Society exists to take care of those who can't take care of themselves.
I would prefer a world where none of those banks existed.
Lending is parasitic and immoral. I hope they all fail.
But if all we can do is chain them up and break them up into smaller pieces that can't do so much damage- then so be it.
Sanders is wholly unhinged; I said this in the Trump general as well. Sanders is running his campaign off of the image of "a nice old man who just wants to help America", I doubt even most redditors give a shit to look deeper into his policies past the words "free". Sanders has two lines which people support him on:
-He's anti-establishment and honest
-Democratic Socialism works
The first one is more important than the second as the character of a candidate almost always rules over their actual policy proposals. And for Bernie when his character is exposed his finished. Bernie has obvious anger and control issues that you can see teem through him when he's actually cornered and not being thrown softball questions by people who agree with him. His campaign staff and anyone who has worked under him agree on this and you can see it clearly in videos like this and the video where he flips his shit as his own audience over Israel.
Here's the best part, Bernie hasn't actually faced a dedicated opponent yet. Someone who will get under his skin and attack him at all fronts. That is exactly what Trump would do, and Sanders would snap in front of the entire world and everyone would see that he's nothing more than a rambling old mad man who they couldn't believe they supported.
College is an abomination. It's nearly worthless outside of STEM for anything but academic hobbies. It doesn't even train STEM to do their job its all very general. Now that background can be good, but what sense does it make to school for years just so you need a shitload more on the job training?
So your main grief with politics right now is "banks"
not the fact that we have no border
or the fact that there is an education bubble ready to explode
or the fact that europe is letting in a Trojan horse and our politicians want to do the same
Because life is more than work. College is wonderful. You spend the best years of your youth surrounded by your peers learning whatever you want to study. Everyone should get the opportunity to go. It doesn't have to be nearly as expensive as it is now to run. With current technology the cost of delivering a quality education to a large number of people is very low.
not the fact that we have no border
>there should be no borders, and we most certainly have one
or the fact that there is an education bubble ready to explode
>edx.org is free
or the fact that europe is letting in a Trojan horse and our politicians want to do the same
>our culture will corrupt their children
>Bernie supporters are Reddit and privileged white college kids
lmao the only people I see supporting Bernie are in MMOs and Reddit.
My American colleagues just laugh at the old man who wants to 99% #occupywallstreet audience.
>believes the government can take care of it's own people
>believes things the government will give for free will be quality
yeah sure thing, enjoy your useless college degree while everyone who was going to pay for it actually DOES leave the country, leaving no way to pay for it other than taxing the fuck out of everyone left.
you know, people like you and me.
>"a woman fantasizes about being raped by 3 men simultaneously" quote across the screen
>"-Bernie Sanders" fades in
Hillary face shows up crying
>Hillary admits this very thing happened to her in Arkansas and she never told anyone b4 now, chokes back tears, STRONG woman
>She asks Dems if they really want an old man who triggers rape victims as their nominee in current year
>Wins primary in landslide, Bernie executed by being appointed Libyan ambassador
I believe the first but I have witnessed firsthand the second and I know it's not true.
Social services are awful. But they are better than nothing. And poor desperate people do dangerous desperate things. We need to tax that successful to feed the unsuccessful. Otherwise they will start killing people or just starve to death.
The rich can afford to pay taxes. They just don't want to and don't care how many people die so they can enjoy their toys and games.
80 percent of the female vote? You have to remember that not everyone in this country is a virgfag like yourself. If a woman is married or dating a guy who likes trump chances are she is voting for trump. Thats a fact jack
He is smart and I don't consider him weak at all. I saw his fire in the debates.
I like jews and socialists. So shoot me.
I would be happy with Bernie or Trump. I just don't trust Trump as much. Bernie cares for the people, Trump.. maybe just cares for Trump.
No, I get what he thinks he's doing. But there isn't a contradiction.
"Did the individual citizens ever have the right to initiate physical force against other citizens?"
Am I missing something, or is this not basic Locke/Hobbes state of nature, origin of governmental authority bullshit?If so, I would agree that the line of argument is absurd.
if you don't think banks are the biggest problem then you're delusional. they are the ones that control the usa, they are the ones that own the "federal" reserve that put everyone into debt. it's literally the cause of all problems in the world. they own the usa and they own yurop. do you even know how money works in the usa? the "federal" reserve prints a million dollars then loans it to the us government at a 20% interest rate. where does that interest come from? there was only a million printed. then the government starts selling assets like gold which has real worth. we're getting fucking robbed and becoming slaves to a system that was designed to keep us all in debt
Umm, ok. Point being, the line of questioning was absurd the minute he invoked an original state where legitimate force between individuals was rightful but also called them citizens.
That isn't good logic, though.
Dictators naturally have to invest in social programs--bread and circuses and all of that.
That doesn't make social programs, regulation, and government oversight themselves necessarily bad, especially when economic externalities, potential monopolies, and social welfare are in question.
>because if not /pol/ would be on his dick
Holy FUCK you must not have been here when OWS was big lol
I mean for the first week or so /pol/ thought they would go bust the FED (/pol/ was all about the libertarianism and ron paulism then) but then it turned out they were just the same smelly leftist progressive activist trash like usual, and now they're pulling for Bernie who's shouting the same slogans
that's why his supporters love him and why cruz's and bush's "he's not a real republican!" attacks won't do shit
I saw a Hyundai today with a sexualized my little pony sticker on it, and a sticker that said "this ass for Sanders". Degenerates love sanders. Mlp autist homosexugender beastiality cucks for Sanders
So you're basically disproving that it's bad logic because you just justified what a dictator must do to seize power, which is the root of socialism.
Good job dingus
>being this much of a cuck
regardless of whether they were black or not, he just let some random people interrupt him. Doesn't matter if it was a cause he was for, it was entirely his right to take back the podium but he just stood back and watched.
Reminder that you're wrong and Pol isn't that important, we just legitimately love the Donald
Why would you pay a pol member to post when you could just send him a plausibly unlinked message from your campaign explaining your candidate is for RACE WAR NOW and get free fanatical volunteers? Read the gospel (art of the deal) and get back to me
Why is Bernie's hair always so fucked up? It's like he just got out of bed all the time. Looks like a crazy prof that you can't really trust to be responsible for a fucking country. Also he's too old to become a president.
Except none of it works. And instead of admitting it doesn't work you point the finger at anyone more successful than you.
In the minds of marxists anyone with a superior product has a monopoly. Small businesses are nearly shut down because of a tax hikes.
It's the banks fault when someone invests in booze and a crack pipe. Oh but god forbid someone who pays off a loan like a responsible adult.
To my understanding, the DNC does not weigh the popular vote at all. Either you're the DNC candidate because congress/senate member like you, or you don't have a shot in hell.
I could be wrong, but that's how the super delegate system looks to me.
Because it makes him more likable. If he had his hair properly combed and groomed he'd look like just another old, white politician with his head up his ass. With his hair being a mess it gives him a "Doc Brown" vibe, implying he's too focused on his work to care about his appearance.
In fact I was searching for an example picture of Doc Brown on google for this post, and I found pic related.
Even Bernie has people giving him PR advice.