0.0% of Icelanders 25 years or younger believe God created the world, new poll reveals
No, because this board doesn't understand the difference between antitheism and atheism. Atheists simply lack faith but tend to live in societies with Christian values, whereas antithiests are atheists who are actively against religion.
Some of the best countries are secular. Sweden would have been a good example until "New Atheism" arrived, which is basically atheism mixed with humanism and progressivism which old atheists hate.
>TL;DR, atheism is compliated
yes, popular atheism a.k.a the culture surrounding personalities and literature such as Richard Dawkins, christopher hitchens, sam harris etc. is one big circle jerk where they don't contribute to any philsophical discourse. (Though the culture pretends to be intellectual)
Atheism pretends to be logical where in fact, logically there is no "a priori/logical" compulsion to reason. For educated individuals in logic and philsophy you will know that even the nature of knowledge is not proven.
Thats what the arguement is, these guys are uneducated fags circle jerking around a topic they know nothing about.
Don't need an argument.
Anyone who calls themselves an atheist is usually a cunt who wants to seem smart but isn't actually good at anything.
So the attack the lowest hanging fruit there is, Religion.
Is there a word for someone who just doesn't give a fuck about how the world was created? It doesn't really affect the majority of us, it won't change your life unless you're a devout religious follower.
I'll admit a lot of atheists are cunts who try to appear smart and talk about things they don't understand. But I must admit there's also a lot of religious nutjobs in comparison.
I just don't get why people feel the need to argue about it when no-one has a clear proven answer.
Icelanders were the last of the Norsemen to be converted to the Jew god. They never forgot the true pantheon of Odin and his children. Good for them.
LOL HOW CAN THIS INBRED BE SO DUMB
>Don't need an argument.
>being a cunt means your wrong
>if i say "2 + 2 =4 " with a snarky attitude, i must be wrong.
Dont get booty blasted just because the empty promises of religion have caught up to the times. As long as they arent falling into degeneracy who gives a shit about their supernatural beliefs? You can be atheist and not turn into a libcuck or whore or whatever. Im far less degenerate than most christian people I know.
That is a gorgeous church btw. I do love the architecture of churches like this.
Atheism is not a lack of belief. That would be agnosticism. Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist. Its an answer to a proposition. Agnosticism is a broad umbrella term that can possibly include those who a lack an opinion(knowledge) on the God question. However, every one of you on /pol are not agnostics, so shut the fuck up. None of you are naive or indecisive enough, atheist scum.
>Arguing against he cultural fabric of the traditional west and what made it great
You realize you're nothing more than a Jewish/Marxist pawn right? Jews love Atheists just as much as they love ethnics. Have fun killing civilization.
I'm a believer senpai but people really have to get rid of the stereotype of God being some sort of Space King. The meme religions that depict God in light of Mesopotamian monarchies have to go.
I said nothing about religion itself, or the effects it has had on culture. Of course you're bringing Jews into this argument.
I'm just saying that I don't think any type of God exists.
>/pol/ starts clinging to the word 'degenerate' because calling people retards just doesn't satisfy anymore
>/pol/ suddenly switches views from extremely atheistic to very religious
>if I don't believe in some floating sky fairy I must be a 'degenerate'
>extremely shitty threads like OP's pop up, because /pol/ betas have nothing to cling onto anymore, so they choose right-wing ideology and Trump
>tfw the neckbeards start using neckbeards as an argument against other neckbeards
>grow up not being introduced to God or religion
>end up fine because good parents and healthy environment
>get labeled a fedora tipper degenerate
I wish I could be a pedestal sitter theist.
christianity is a foreign jew religion, put upon people for economic reasons. any spirtual guidance or aid it used to render has failed. this is how religions die and it is a normal process. it will be replaced with something new in some form that will suit the needs of the people.
>inb4 "/pol/ was always Christian, newfag"
You know, the 63,804,612,793,037 other fedora pictures didn't really do me anything, but the one you just posted really proves your point!
nobody has ever actually refuted the atheist points, so the same thread can be posted over and over untill someone does, which has not yet happened.
a fat man wearing a hat doesn't disprove anything you religous nutjob.
There are young people in Iceland? I thought Europe was going through a population crisis. Isn't that the reason why the Continent started attracting more refugees to balance out their below-replacement fertility rates?
Who do you think were some of the first and most influential atheists in the west? Subversion of a nation requires destroying it's most cherished virtues, values and belief systems.
>thinking man can prove or disprove God
>Imbyign it won't be more than some philosophical bullshit from both sides forever
These arguments make no sense, the theist is just as wrong as the atheist.
And yet they made the West the success that it is today and was even more so for the last century. Atheism has brought only pain and suffering in nations it is a majority in. You want your country flooded with muslims and negros? Embrace secularism and dispose of Jesus.
>Still believing in god
I get that you, contrarians of /pol/, like to pretend to be christian because of muh values and all that shit, but I seriously doubt you ACTUALLY REALLY LITERALLY believe in it.
You are just being edgy in a different way.
Ironical/cultural christians are the fedora of 2015/2016.
Man cannot disprove that I'm not God. Maybe I'm just testing all of you by pretending to be an Atheist, and if you respond to me with "You're a fuck fedora tip degnerate Jew" then that means you fail the test.
But, Atheism is believeing that there is no God, and that's what I fall under...
Only 100k? Jesus Christ, the refugees can EASILY commit a successful genocide on the native Icelanders with those kinds of numbers. They don't even have to kill them, just outbreed them/marry their fertile women.
That's because you were raised in a nation built on values that can be traced directly to Christianity and Christian culture.
If you grew up in the heart of Saudi Arabia you'd probably identify with a lot of Islamic values and traditions.
Right, but what about the people who just don't believe in God? You're commiting an association fallacy. If you ask someone who doesn't believe in God and press them to answer, what are the supposed to say? Atheism is just a label, not an organized movement. There are organized atheist movements and organized atheistic movements, but not believing in God doesn't predicate you joining their faggy little clubs any more than believing in God means you have to join the catholic church
>/pol/ blames islam for islamic terrorists (gee, much have taken a bunch of brain power to figure that out)
>B-B-B-BUT MY RELIGION IS BETTER GUISE
religion cucks never cease to amaze me.
Christianity spread into Iceland through threats of executing Icelandic children by Norwegian Christians and forcing live snakes down peoples throats.
And you wonder why they don't accept a blood thirsty religion from the same sandpit that spawned Islam and Judaism, which I know all you faggots think, and rightly so, are two of the worst religions to blight the earth. Christianity is just as bad as them.
You pull three things out of a toilet and two of them are handfuls of shit? It's safe to say the third isn't a diamond, it is a turd.
They agree with the premises, but disagree with what that concludes to. The "unmoved mover"/prime cause is only asserted to be God, but is not a necessary condition of the proof. There needs a connecting argument to show that is a necessary and sufficient condition thay the unmoved mover is God (or even a diety)
>Jews love atheists
No, Jews love people who obey their doctrines of "love your neighbor" and "we're all equal in the eyes of God". Christianity is designed to spread quickly and kill every endemic culture in its path. It keeps the goyim fighting with one another over who can appease their kike master the best.
Does it not worry you the most popular religion in our countries is also the most popular religion in many African countries and all South American countries?
Degenerate literally means in it's latin roots "to decline from an ancestral standard" or to "move away from ones ancestors". To be atheist is one of the most degenerate things you can be.
>Man cannot disprove that I'm not God.
Yes but you don't have the whole world arguing over that. Everyone would agree that you have delusions of grandeur. Many instances throughout history have made non-believers question their ideas and world views, of course these things may have been hallucinations or lies but the uncertainty of the existence of God is largely overwhelming. To say you know with 100% certainty that you know God exists or doesn't exist is idiotic.
>But, Atheism is believeing that there is no God, and that's what I fall under...
And if you truly believe that, then fine. But do not attack it as I believe both of us would like to see civilizations continue, alongside Western nations. To argue against Christianity is futile, we all know that truly Christian nations are better in at least /pol/'s standards. Look at Russia, look at many slavic nations that are quite Orthodox Christian. When you convince a Christian there is no God, all you are doing is helping a Muslim or a Jew or some other foreign person. When it comes down to it Christianity good for society and for our people whether it is true or not. Think of it as the noble lie, I myself believe in Jesus and God but if you don't, do not attack that belief because you're only weakening our nations and promoting hedonism.
>And yet they made the West the success that it is today and was even more so for the last century.
Nah buddy, white people did that. We could have been worshiping the Purple fucking People Eater and we still would have stomped everyone else's shit into the mud. You want to talk about about some Jewish subversion of white culture? How about the subversion of belief in ourselves that we can only be great because of faith in some wandering Jew in the desert?
Is that why white people as a whole are allowing their collapse and complete invasion of their nations? It's funny that these events seem to largely correlate with the younger generations that are largely atheist.
All those shitholes are kebab circlejerks tho.
Mexico is one of the most religious countries on earth, has the highest amount of catholics, and its still a piece of shit country.
Don't let your faith get in the way of reason christfag.
This is the aftermath of Christian theology. The teachings of Christianity have stuck, even though people have abandoned Christian tradition. Most of secular philosophy is derived from Christian morality, goy.
White people are allowing the collapse of their nations because they have been told that it makes them Good Samaritans.
Wrong. Christianity is Judaism for goyim.
>enter our temple
This is Tumblr-tier semantics, but it really highlights Christianity's contribution to the problem. We don't need people to "enter our temple".
Try replacing "Jews" with "Muslims", and tell me you aren't a Cuck.
Except Christianity paved the way for human development through an acclivity to civilize.
Islam and Judaism forgive and accept their own demi-human selves and exist only as parasites.
God exists, that's the end of it. Atheists are wrong full-stop.
Let the heathen atheists be butt-blasted by faith all they want, until they find and accept the Lord they will always fall short worldly lives.
Maybe the extreme success of the West wasn't just one factor as you'd think? The success is brought from whites and Christianity as one.
They obviously haven't stuck as millennials go against nearly every teaching of Jesus Christ. As for boomers they only follow tenants that best suit them, and discard others.
Clearly you know nothing of history. Jews were always kept under control in Chrisitian societies. It was only with the rise of secularism that Jews were able to rise to ascendancy.
wew lad that are some Godly numbers.
But in all seriousness, only you can convince yourself of the existence of God. In fact something so paramount should be a life journey, so let it be that, before choosing one belief of the other.
>they haven't stuck
Yes they have. A little too well. Let me break it down for you:
>invent religion for goyim that feeds on their insecurities of life and death
>teach that you should help others and that all are equal in the eyes of the Almighty
>eventually people reject the specific details due to their batshit insanity, but maintain the basic message of charity
>people are open to getting ass raped because they're supposed to lend a hand to those in need
>Jews were kept under control
No, they weren't. That's they beauty of it: the Jews just set Christianity free on Europe, and the Europeans willfully wiped their own identity out of history.
That doesn't sound like they were "kept under control". That sounds like the European societies were Cucked so badly that they destroyed themselves and praised the Jewish god for it.
You sibling fuckers will soon breed out..
Read the bible, no seriously.
I personally started with the New Testament. Start with Matthew, put it down for a little while and maybe dwell on it, then come back for Mark, and do the same for Luke, since they are all very similar. They are good summations of Jesus's life, and are good introductions to the rest of the Bible.
>Is Iceland degenerated?
but not only for the atheism reason you list.
thought I'd mention it
I agree that there's much more to Christianity than that. However, those few messages have proliferated and damaged societies throughout the world.
Well you know, some children never grow up, it's a frightening world.
Japan is Shinto
I do understand how Christianity has lost it's message, but it has been hated by nearly every group most /pol/ fags are against. (ie: Jews, Communists, Muslims, etc..)
I don't know where you're getting your history. Jesus calls out and BTFO of the Pharisee's (the ancestors of modern Jewery). Christianity helped to unify (somewhat) Europe through the Dark and Middle-ages, and was forces united by the Pope that were able to repel the Muslim hordes of the Turks. Again, it was not until the decline of the church that the Jews began to fully take on the roles they have today.
ITT: dumbasses all around
Every time someone asks what went wrong with the world, I think back to threads like these and remember what kinda fucking tards make up the bulk of the populace.
>people do bad thing
>that mean all people like that are bad mkay
My mother was born there, I am a citizen.
There isn't much to do there but fuck and drink, so the absence of religion is there. We're still traditional though, we still go to church on christmas and shit but it's mostly all secular.
>Jews began to fully take on the roles they have today
ie: Vatican II, and many of the arguments against Christianity (like the pedophile priests and corrupt pope) have been attempts from these Jews to discredit Christianity. It's funny because these Pharisees believe they are the Jews, but in reality, it is the Christians who are now technically the Jews, or God's chosen people.
I'm not going to make a rule for the exception or outlier, go to Atlanta for a day and realize you are being ridiculous.
>Muslims: hate jews, apostates, deny Christ
>pol fedoras/atheists: hate jews, also hate Muslims, deny Christ
>Christians: hate no-one but are hates by all, believe and accept the love of Christ
Atheists and Muslims are all of the world and will receive the same "reward" when they die, despite hating each other in life
FUCK ATHIESM IM FUCKING SICK OF YOU FEDORA CUNTS BRINGING YOUR SHIT TO POL STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM THE INTERNET JESUS IS REAL AND GOD IS REAL AND FUCK YOU YOU WILL BE JUDGED IN THE AFTERLIFE GOD IS WATCHING U NOW YOU STUPID FEDORA FUCKS ALL YOU HAVE IS DAWCKINS LOL
Also, mexicos govt is deeply secular and their constitution literally opress catholicism. You do realize how many priests were opressed and even kolled by their govts regimen
How does a genetically isolated Icelander look Chinese/Japanese?
>All these fedoras
Has it started /pol/? Are we finally beginning to Remove Torah?