How is this allowed ?

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>>61100736
>Massive circler farms
Yes, African culture blah blah blah.

>>61100839
What ? No. How can you make so many straight roads and not become insane ?

>>61100736
320 million people to feed you stupid nigger

>>61100938
But you sell most of it out of the nation...

>>61100917
Cause we aren't fucking retards who want our streets to look a grandmaster maze.

Also because that infrastructure was probably the first thing there and was planned properly.

>smoking weed is degenerate
>being non-religious is degenerate

>now using efficient farming methods to maximize agricultural output is degenerate

>>61100917
They're just field access roads, usually kept in barely functional condition. They arent meant to be an exciting ride. Although, mobbing down them in the rain is kinda fun

>>61101049

We help feed the world, so what?

>>61100736
> Why is agriculture allowed
Wat?

I'd much rather prefer driving in straight lines the city i live in now has srtaightish lined road with lots of diagonal ones thrown in and its a pain in the ass, so many 5 lane intersections.

>>61100736
Calculating the area of a rectangle is easy. If it was all fucked up and NOT straight lines, you'd literally have to use calculus just to find the economic yield of your plot of land.

Are Frenchniggers really this impractical? You'd rather have muh curves because it looks pretty?

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THIS is the superior way of farming.

Sorry for the PTSD ww2 veterans.

>>61101520
Those are some poverty looking fields TBQH Senpai.

>>61101272
> Any connection at all between those
Don't take this Frog seriously for a second. He comes from a cuk country that hasn't updated it's farming methods since the Middle Ages.

>>61101517
French niggers realise having actual trees near your fields actually improve the quality of your crops. We actually don't want to mass product to the point our whole country is forced to eat corn in various forms just to justify the humongous farming subsidies.

Would you prefer curving roads that lead you the opposite direction you want to go? These are easy to navigate.

Also, Nebraska doesn't have mountains or major bodies of water to go around, so straight roads are logical.

Man those farms are super qt

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To be more serious:
> No forests
> No towns, no villages, no habitations except the farmer house and 150 barns for the machines.

Your country is fucking grim. No wonder burgers are all cityfags who can't understand how living in the country can be fucking great.

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>>61100736
What are you even talking about?
That would be grass regardless
You worried about the lines? What are you even saying?
You implying it would have trees on it?

>>61101515

Diagonals cut down distance travelled up to 29% over a grid. Taxicab metric vs Euclidean metric. The main advantage of grid is to accommodate more rectangular lots.

>>61101684
You do realize that the Great Plains - where most of our cereal grains are grown, and where that picture was likely taken - receive a relatively small amount of annual rainfall, right? Trees would suck up all the water and ruin the crop and soil. Trees don't even grow naturally in the Plains - at least not in abundance, and definitely not to the size of those in your picture. Trees like yours would be invasive species.

>>61100736
>Circle farms
Get ready for mass habbedig when the water runs out.

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>>61101520
Doesn't make a difference except less efficient. Maybe the old school doesn't use all of the petrochemical fertilizers and pesticides, modern farm gear a new age farm does, but it's not like those little strips of trees support any biodiversity or a potential forestry resource. The new world had those but they have already been amalgamated, leveled and resized to feed the equatorial people who are over running Europe now.

>>61101272
Actually
>Smoking weed is degenerate
>being non-religious is ok.

No, the most of us really don't care. Just the storm-fag who posted this thread.

>>61101684
How would trees being there increase crop yield? Wouldn't their roots take away water and nutrients? Wouldn't they block out sunlight?

>>61101933
I live in the country. There is a literal mile (that's several kilometers for fags) between houses. It's great.

>>61101272
because the american way of agriculture is not sustainable. It relies on massive amount of artificial and imported fertilizers.

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>>61101994
I imply it could look better.

>>61102064
Then maybe don't mass product there ? If there's not enough water, do something else than crops using tons of water ?

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>>61101933
The midwest never had trees...
It has always been covered in grass. Why do you think the early settlers build mud houses? Because they had no lumber to built houses
Its not like we chopped down a rainforest and put corn in its place

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>>61102094
mfw all shall burn

>>61102133
Trees don't take away nutriements, they actually fix them and make sure the rain don't wash it away with the erosion.

But of course there's no rain in middle burgerland.

>>61102141
>>hitting speeds of over 100 miles per hour with out having to worry about the fuzz

>>61100736
Farming and order? We made all the niggers live in cities and keep the muzzies in check. Also no socialist faggotry, ya surrender monkey.

>>61100736
Seeing this only made me wonder if I could stick my dick in it.

>>61102184
Its flat it might look better from an airplane but who cares about that and putting trees would be adding something that did not orignate from that region
Kanas is flatter than a pancake .9997 uniform. You wont see anything unless you are on a water tower or in a plane

http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume9/v9i3/kansas.html

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>>61101354
>US corn ethanol fuels food crisis in developing countries
>The US ethanol programme pushed up corn prices by up to 21 per cent as it expanded to consume 40 per cent of the harvest
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/10/201210993632838545.html

yes
i picked aljazeera on purpose :^)

>>61101520
>Land being divided up for serfs 1000 years ago makes effective modern farming.

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>>61101520

You have no idea what you talk about France.
American system is way more efficient than ours.
The only shitty thing about American farming is that most fruits and veggies are produced in California. They kinda have a problem with their water supply.

>>61102266
Well im in the michigan and they normally have entire forests around farms because of how many trees there are here. Only a few farm areas are barely seperated by trees.

>>61102184
>>61102266
Do they teach environmental biology in France? Or do they just teach the Q'ran?

>>61102266
You guys might need tress to prevent the soil from sliding off because you are farming on hills.
There are no hills really in the midwest

only small family-run farms should receive subsidies

>>61102064
Tree on mass increase the annual rainfall of an area by retaining moisture. You could increase the annual rainfall ( and fuck over those east coast fags.)

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>>61102407

Jacques wants us all to live in chateaus on our rhombus shaped fields.

This is 'Murca.

>>61101933
>> No forests

theyre called the Great Plains for a reason

>>61100917
France, I'm a GIS major, want an actual explanation on how this came about?

I want to start an aquaponics operation

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>>61101933
Implying all our whole country looks like that.

Its true, europeans really do think we're all rednecks from flyover states.

Here's typical washington farmland

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>>61102500
Yea what he posted is all grain fields or corn/beans
Not much is grown in the midwest besides corn wheat and soybeans
Everything else is grown in the central valley of California or in local greenhouses

>>61102153

What's not "sustainable" about the use of "imported fertilisers"?

>artificial

You know fertilisers are just Nitrogen Potassium and other elements right? What's "artificial" about them?

>>61102673
Maths and lack of soul ?

>>61102266

>I have no idea what i'm talking about

>>61100736
What's the problem? The Great Plains has always been flat land with few trees, if I remember correctly

>>61102620
What do they do with all those tullipes?
Do they really sell that many?

>>61102749
oooh the colors

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>>61102500
>American system is way more efficient than ours.

1Kg of real food 1000Kg of plastic gmo shit.

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>>61102500
>They kinda have a problem with their water supply.
but they are fucking creative at looking for solutions to this problem

>literally nothing in the northwest US

You might as well make fancy grids out of it. There's nothing else to do unless you want to build artificial geography like some fat faggot playing Minecraft.

>>61101933

you clearly have no conception as to how fuckhuge my country really is.

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>>61102777
???
Efficient use of land?
Pre planned cities are a bad thing? The only reason the roads in old citys are curved is because they added them slowly overtime when they were needed. This caused them to loop and curve around peoples houses or land
Driving in boston is like driving in a maze

>>61102927
>mfw i drove by the cuck ball reservoir the other day

>>61102127
>Having no established moral guidelines is a good thing.

>>61102749
>Everything else is grown in the central valley of California or in local greenhouses
Actually the US agriculture is more spread out then pop culture has led you to believe. The East coast grows enough to feed the nation by itself. We export A LOT of out of the US.

>>61102782
Yes, hundreds of generations had no idea of what they are doing and talking about.

Bocage has many advantages, first for diversify the production (nop, let's do corn only), to have a better diversity of grass, fruits, mushroom, small wildlifes better suited to also use the fields for cattle (nop, let's do corn only) and actually drive them efficiently (ever tried to move straight a heard in a open field ?) and third, it's all about water retention, but burger farmers don't care about that, everyone knows water is infinite.

>>61102833
Waste is huge, they pick the best ones. But yeah they sell a lot.

>>61101520

Our farms use irrigation machines which move in a circle. It is the most cost efficient way to farm and provides the cheapest cost for food.

Sorry we don't want to pay more for food just so that fields which 90% of the population never sees "look pretty".

>>61103213
Well the thing is every bit of land is being used unless it is federal/wildlife land which is mainly out west in the mountains
We dont have random fields just sitting around and neither does most of europe

>>61101933

You do realize these were on the plains where forests had not existed for centuries right?

Before farms it was grasslands like the Russian steppes or African Svannah.

>>61103061
>Pre planned cities are a bad thing?
Yes, because people have to live in it. Sometimes you don't want the "most efficient", sometimes you want history and character. The fact is people don't build their house as perfect cubes.

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More US farmland

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I don't get what's wrong with straight roads. It's far less dangerous that the shit we have in Europe.

>>61102184

There are giant underground aquifers. Water is pumped from them to water plants.

You are dumb

>>61102833

Sell them all over the world. It's a very important export product for my country. The USA is actually our nr.1 customer.

>>61103362
Old cities are beautiful m8, but they're a pain in the ass to build today

Do you think developers would design some intricate maze of roads for shits and giggles? Grid layout just werks

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>>61103362
You are just mad you cant have a house that looks like every other house around.
Uniformity man we love it in america

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>>61103400
But it's so much fun !

>>61103463
water is infinite: the post

>>61103499
Aye. There's also less nooks and crannies for Arabs to gang rape our women in.

>>61102118
>not knowing that hedging supports significant biodiversity of pest-predators, pollinators and acts as a barrier to soil erosion
Get the fuck out of here Canacucks

>>61102094
I don't see how that only applies to circle farms

>>61103648
>a yank saying aye
just no

>>61100736
Because thats only like 10 sq miles so its literally fucking nothing

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>>61101520
Civil engineer here and yes some parts of the United States actually do have farms that look similar to that. But the reason has already been given in the thread its just open farmland square and rectangular parcels are easier to divvy out and it is just simply cut out for maximum efficiency most of the roads are just field access roads that you posted in your original picture.
Also why would you have a road pointlessly wind a serpentine across completely flat land?

> one more point this is why our cars don't go around corners. They don't have to.

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>>61102777
Sort of.

We actually have 5+ land systems.
1) Meets and Bounds (what most of Europe has, ESPECIALLY Brittan.) - the traditional "Euro" look. This is 80% of the US East Coast / 13 colonies.

2) Spanish Grants (any old Spain territory like Florida, instead of small winding 'lots' you have large tracks of land. With little road access.)

3) French Long Lots (look along Rivers that France owned.) - - You guys liked making long rectangular lots going "away" from a river. Then putting roads between the short ends (so you can have more lots further from rivers.) This ends up in a "UNIFORM RECTANGLE" layout. IF THE RIVER IS STRAIGHT. If it bends? Outside-bend gets bigger lots, inside smaller. Look at New Orleans for example.

4) USPLS System. Based off Roman designs. Thomas Jefferson proposed it, so there would be 36 square miles "per township." The idea was you have 36 square miles of farmland serving a central town. Boring, mathematical efficiency like you claim... unfortunately, some areas are predisposition to more advantages (major river/road/etc.) So those "farms" get bought up, cut up into smaller sections. Those smaller sections are turned into housing (sub-urban sprawl) while the "town" becomes a city/down town. THIS is where "Sub-division" comes from. One square mile would get sub-divided up into different housing communities.

Unfortunately, MOST of the US is open farmland, desert, or mountain. So only colonial-old cities have "character" or well developed places in weird locations.

Want a brain fuck? Look @ the image. How did it end up like that?!

RAIL ROADS! See, the US Govt granted "every other" square mile to the rail road companies. Which would, to fund their railroads, sell their square mile chunks to people. Which also made them thriving customers "along the rail line." Unfortunately, the "forest" squares are UNDEVELOPED. Why? Because buying land from the railroad is quicker than WAITING ON THE GOVERNMENT.

Hope you enjoyed.

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>>61101994
>all that city

Bit terrifying

>>61102620
what is even the purpose of these stereotypical windmills? grinding grain, pumping water, or something else? and why are they always by fucking tulips

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>>61103499
>Do you think developers would design some intricate maze of roads for shits and giggles?
Yes. Crazy billionars want to rebuild entire castles. Why not rebuild an old town ?

>>61103605

There are issues with the aquifers but that is due to poor planning and resource management, not the style of farming itself.

There are talks of building Roman style aqueducts from the Mississippi farther to the west to combat this problem.

>organization and efficiency is bad

okay frog

>>61103742
i'm talking about a functioning city, not a billionaires playground

>>61103362

The cities around here only go back a little over 400 years at most (about 200 those years being actual incorporated cities).

I can only imagine the retardedness of European cities.

Building up from a bunch of huts and horse trails ends up being series of narrow fucked up one way streets with off centre intersections and other bullshit.

Today we can plan ahead. Why would you have a problem with that?

>>61103718
> graphicalbug.jpg
God needs to update his graphic card driver.

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>>61101520
10/10, would hide a Tiger in

>>61100736
I fail to see the problem here

>>61103736
> everything needs a point
that's why you don't have tourists

>>61100736
Because it grows our food, you dumb frog.

>>61103742
Tony Hsieh is an American billionaire and he's the head of a project that's rebuilding downtown Las Vegas.

Planning, efficiency, organization, and straight lines.

http://www.downtownproject.com/

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>>61103659
Hedging is great and a lot of farms in the eastern part of the United States have tree lines that surround the fields.

But in many parts of the western United States trees just don't do that well there is a reason that a lot of Homesteader ( pioneer, frontiersmen, settlers ) homes in certain western areas were made out of sod and that reason is there were just no trees there in the first place to cut down to make houses out of.

They were vast open prairies before the settlers arrived they are slightly more organized vast open prairies now

>>61103830
>Why would you have a problem with that?
because it's boring

>>61102749
when's this place going under?

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>>61103721
>>it will never get nuked and rebuilt as Neo Tokyo in time for the Akira time line

>>61103977
This is the real world. Efficiency and organization is far more important than "fun" and "cute" looking cities.

>>61103736
polders mang it's a dutch thing

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>>61101933
5 minutes from my house.

>>61103721

Try Mexico City that place is insane

>>61103857
I know you're being funny, that's fine, but explanation for why that is what it is, is in last para.

Also

>I love Euro-look, even if it would be a bitch

I agree, we're 70% soul-less unless you go to French, Spanish, or British colonial cities here.

>>61103332
I drive by random fields all day here in Maine. People Hay them every year just to keep them from turning back into forest. Because removing stumps at some point in the future is way more expensive then running a tractor and bailer over it once a year.

>>61101933
>no forests
>300 acre forest right behind my apartment

Sometimes I wish it wasn't there because I keep hearing raccoons climbing trees.

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>>61103894
>that's why you don't have tourists
lel

you can't even capitalize on it

>>61103718
An interesting post ? In your 4chan ? It's more likely than you think.

>>61104165
The French New Orleans (the part who didn't drown because it was build by actual thinking people) sounds great to visit.

>>61100839
>yellow swatika
>again
Why are britcucks always the ones trying to force memes on /pol/?

>>61102758
>artificial
Not organic. They have to be manufactured(requires vast amounts of energy, which for most part is created by fossil fuels) or mined(limited supply)

>>61101520
Those fields look beautiful, my greatest ally.

>>61100736
... I don't see it. What is it precisely you are complaining about?

>>61104225
Yes, we don't squeeze dry our tourists.

That's why they come btw.

Also can I remind how big and more populated your country is compare to mine ?

>>61102266
>Tree roots hold down soil better than prairie plant roots

retard detected

>>61104250
Funny thing about that...

All of the French Quarter mostly had minimal flooding. The "beneath the sea level" part was built by Americans. We overcrowded the French part and went out into the swamp, leveled it, and then wondered why France never did it.

>>61103964
Of course I know about the vagaries of the Plains being plains, I just wanted to put in my piece about the Canacuck being a retard about hedging.

Regardless, even plains farmers and operations would benefit from hedging (and a move away from permanent monoculture but that's another issue) at a minimal cost to land use, if not barely any considering lost space on circular arrangements. It wouldn't be the first attempt either, given historic land grant opportunities that hinged upon planting certain acreage of trees.

>>61103523
>American that actually likes pigfarm style housing
Your country lacks any variation or culture

>>61104055
Edge of hill country in Austin?

>>61104364
>and then wondered why France never did it.
Lies, you knew all about it. That's why you put the niggers there.

>>61103228
>Bocage has many advantages, first for diversify the production (nop, let's do corn only), to have a better diversity of grass, fruits, mushroom, small wildlifes better suited to also use the fields for cattle (nop, let's do corn only) and actually drive them efficiently (ever tried to move straight a heard in a open field ?) and third, it's all about water retention, but burger farmers don't care about that, everyone knows water is infinite.


Yeah, but you don't seem to understand how fuck huge the USA is.

I drove 440 miles (708 kms) North and still haven't left my state.

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>>61103718

>>61101933
>No forests
>there are people who think all of america just looks like new york

>>61104326
It's Friday night, OP is lonely, so he picked something American to obsess about.

Today it's about your farmland.

>>61102749

Looks comfy

>>61104346
>we don't squeeze dry our tourists
>everything is vastly cheaper in the united states than anywhere in the world
>europours actually take shopping vacations here

>>61104499
Stop playing giant chess. Giant chess is evil.

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This is what my county looks like

>>61104432
Yep.

>>61104225
>have to fly to US on thousands of dollar flights
>costs a fortune to do any serious travel
>Relatively equal euro to dollar conversion
>Tourists to france just have to take train or can travel less distance than Texas from one point of Europe to next
Same reasons why Spain gets more than france.

>>61100736
>ITT cityfags try to understand how irrigation works.

>>61102749
> lastwhitepeoplebastion.png

>>61102749
Sweet. What/where is this?

>>61104346
That just shows that people are willing to pay much more just to see the US. We make triple what you do and we have 13 million fewer tourists annually. Not to mention that our growth in tourism is larger than yours by a factor of almost 700 - that means more people want to see us every year.

The fuck does native population have to do with tourism? India has almost triple our population and they're not even on the list.

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>>61100736
You Eurocucks are seriously the stupidest niggers, and you call us the stupid ones. Jesus christ learn basic agriculture and geography.

>>61104609
and now you know why we call you europoors

>>61104592
That's better Kentucky.

Try to put some roads though, don't overdo it.

>>61103718
underrated post

OP is clutching at straws because his country is so fucked.

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>>61104430
Yet somehow american culture is the center of the world.
We produce nearly all the popular films and songs and fashion trends
I dont see sweden producing much of anything besides rape memes

>>61103382
Other than the mountain it looks trampy as fuck.

>>61102749
GOOOODDDMORNING TROPICO!!!!

>>61104644
>That just shows that people are willing to pay much more just to see the US
It shows they HAVE to pay more.

>>61104530
... Are you sure it is in the US? From what I can see, it could potentially be anywhere in the world that has a temperate climate that people farm.

>>61102417
Um...ok?

>>61104609
>Costs are much higher for travel
>People come anyways
There must be an incentive other than cost.

Oh yeah, that's right. We're the United States.

>>61104662
this, holy fuck.

>>61104716
>We produce nearly all the popular films and songs and fashion trends
THAT is your measure of culture? how sad

>>61101049

Most of it goes to waste. US and EU over subsidize their farming.

>>61104644
More people to work in the tourist industry (because it's an industry). Also I'm pretty sure the money numbers include money spent by american "tourists" just visiting next state, which is bullshit.

And the size of your country is completly relevant, you should have much more stuff to show.

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>>61101933
> no forests

>>61104662
It isn't even about that. It's literally just "you're doing something different then us, what the fuck?"

Even if it's more efficient, we still catch shit for it.

>>61104759
They don't HAVE to come. They're completely willing to spend extra yurobux just to take the tour. If it was really that expensive then people wouldn't come. See
>>61104773

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>>61103718
Senpai, tell me about why florida grew the way it did.

>>61101354

That's false.

US and EU over subsidize. This pushes out poorer nations which are agricultural based. Making them poor, no economy, and unable to eat.

US creating all this food is actually putting people into starvation.

Food isn't even being shipped out. They produce it just because they can. A matter of "national defence" keeping up their sovereignty, and because it's a lucrative business - free gov subsidizes.

>>61104889
>They don't HAVE to come. They're completely willing to spend extra yurobux just to take the tour. If it was really that expensive then people wouldn't come. See
>I Don't know how tourism works at all, the post.

>>61104592
Kentucky is just filled with loaded equestrians.

>>61100736

>People from shit tier countries all fleeing to Europe because of lack of social security infrastructure food and jobs.
>Billions and billions of money thrown into a void to help these people have a better life in Europe and migration while they will continue to come and inevitably our downfall.
>Nobody is solving the problems of these shit tier countries because there are no resources.

There is your problem, why is nobody able to filter sea water so it can be used for agriculture and drink water and make tons of money out of this, or actually conquering and colonizing pieces of lands, instead we have this dumbass attempts that America tried to do with Iraq, tooting it and booting it out, just steal the oil and keep the people in check.

>>61104557
Thank you for barely including any VAT or whatever taxes to your products and services. What government needs money for healthcare or education, or has minimum wages to ensure a self sustaining younger working class, right Thailand uhhhhh America.

>>61101520
Those hedgerows are from forests that were there originally. The land depicted in >>61100736 was originally grasslands.

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>>61104805

>>61102617
>ppl still actually believe this
Did we learn nothing from the great dust bowl?

>>61102127
Anyone who says smoking weed is degenerate has never had it offered to them. This board is a breeding ground for stupidity.

>>61104616

It's actually Indian, majority Muslim.

>>61100736
That makes my ocd feel so good

>>61104805
Culture is just simply ideas that are passed around
You cant just have arabs or black people move into a city and expect them to be more culturally enriched. It only happens if people adopt and accept those ideas or behaviors.
The film and music industry is one of the widest used medium to spread culture

>>61105024
>government taxes have anything to do with minimum wage

Put away the bong.

>>61103523
Absolutely Disgusting.

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>>61104834
you fucks with forrests make me jelly.

I only have orange trees and swamps.

>>61100736
what is wrong with picture?

>>61104834
Fuck Georgia.

>>61104626
Male, maldives

>>61102153
People have been successfully farming sustainably since the dust bowl, fool.

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>>61105031
>that filename

>>61105192
We don't have any natural fucking forests, thanks to us being so tiny.
Planned forests are here and there but they are mostly shit

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and house cats that will eat you.

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>>61100736
-It's too arid for most trees

-Very few people actually live in small towns on the plains. Their population peaked in the 1920's, before the "dust bowl" of the 1930's. Extreme heat in summer, extreme cold in winter, tornadoes, thunderstorms, hail... it's where cold air from the Rocky Mountains hits warm air from the Gulf of Mexico and creates violent weather.

This is what western Nebraska looks like without irrigation. Good luck planting trees there.

>>61104716

actually sweden is the reason why so many hip hop and pop stars are famous. their firms do all the songwriting.

>>61102184
The picture in the OP sits on top of one of the world's biggest sources of groundwater.

>>61105031
Did you know the czech republic actually tried to fake his own history by production government sanctionned false records and fake proofs ?

>>61104971
So? We feed the countries that matter ie the west and help fuck over shitskins, it's win-win.
Now if only our retarded politicians didn't let the shitskins come in to the country and ruin everything...

>>61100736
NO OVERPOPULATION NOTHING TO SEE HERE

>>61101354
>we help feed the world
No, the US food production(and export) is a classic case of predatory pricing, where the US is destroying local agriculture in developing countries by subsidizing their food production.
this is detrimental to competition, and thus the outcome is actually higher food prices in developing countries and dependency on US food imports

>>61103061
this looks quite epic, id love to know how it looked before that just grass? If yes, i wouldnt give 2 shits, but if you cut down trees i hate you.

>>61105035
I thought the dust bowl was caused by plowing without taking into account the contours of the land and not planting cover crops. + drought.

>>61104662
France, first agriculture power un Yurop
>fags

Kek

Otherwise, new Holland, Deutz or Massey Ferguson are the best machines by theyr fiability, and that's well known.

How dumb, as usual, you can be, comparing a 65M ppl country with a 350M one. Also OP is a bit retarded, for sure.

>>61101520
Indeed, this prevents border damage to the trees and trees surrounding farms provide a richer soil and allow for more species diversity which is also great for farming.

>>61105283
>We don't have any natural fucking forests, thanks to us being so tiny.
>Planned forests are here and there but they are mostly shit

Really? Aren't you guys also mainly like below water level? Plant mangroves time?

I guess it's the same reason I can't understand how small Europe actually is is the same reason most Europeans don't understand how big each freaking state is.

>>61104360
Considering most of the prairies and plains have been tilled and ploughed, the root systems that developed over thousands of years and required straight steel ploughs to cut don't exist anymore.

Even if hedged strips of prairie grass existed, it wouldn't do shit about topsoil blow off or water retention.

>>61104773
And? It's not an argument to say WHY you get more tourism money, and if people want to, that's fine for them.

>>61104861
>More efficient
>Drown everything in petroleum product fertilisers
>Over subsidise corn to the point you can use it as fuel
>efficient

>>61101520
Hysterical.

This is why yuro's lose every time.

>>61105134
>randomly putting words together to make it look like a counter arguement.
>imply euros pay for their travel to the states to buy the same garbage we can buy here.

I'm pointing out that your products and services are so god damn cheap because you barely apply any taxes.

>>61103061
It worries me that ayy lmaos might see shit like this and mistake it for some kind of code

Why everybody so buttmad and triggered by us???

>>61105129
>The film and music industry is one of the widest used medium to spread culture
Sorry, but popular culture is not culture, because the one and only purpose it has is money.

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>>61101933
Nigga, do you have any idea how much land we have? Most of our country is exactly that, country.

We've got a lot of suburban areas, sure. Those are either surrounding cities or pockets in farmland, or pockets just outside of cities with forest and farmland as an anti-nigger buffer.

>>61104055
I can see Pennybacker bridge from here!

>>61104829
No, the count is international tourism. I should have included that in my pic.

Your country is older, you have more "history and character" to show. Finally, we do have more people working in tourism. But, tourism accounts for 10.9% of all jobs in your country, and only 5.5% of all jobs in US in 2013
http://www.deptofnumbers.com/employment/us/
http://selectusa.commerce.gov/industry-snapshots/travel-tourism-and-hospitality-industry-united-states.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_France

>>61100736
In Oregon there's a bunch of "redpilled" retards who want to do this btw. They say it's unumurican that our government won't allow them to wipe every living thing off the face of the earth except grass for their cattle

And guess what... /pol/ defends them.

>>61104055
Mt. Bonnell

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>>61105502
>you barely apply any taxes.

8.25%, and it's still too god damn high.

>>61104268
>anorganic compounds aren't organic
Gee, who would have guessed

>expensive
>Haber–Bosch
It's literally the reason why we can feed so many people today.

>>61103718


t-thanks for the info

read the description 5 times, still can't understand the picture. The lighter squares are developed? Where's the access roads?

>>61105001
>I'm mad that I'm too poor to visit the US, the post

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>>61100736
My brother lives there, in Nebraks, you dip. What is your problem they don't grow Grey Poupon? Go Huskers!

>>61102917
All food you eat is GMO, natural wheat has been extinct for more than a thousand years.

>>61102708

I hope you aren't implying that everyone in flyover states is a redneck. As an Indiana native I tire of this meme although I understand it.

>>61105569
Born here in 88 and it took until today before I ever knew that bridge had a name.

>>61105464
The dark green parts are """""forests"""""
The light green parts are farms and pieces of polder.
What I circled are the biggest "Forests" we have

>>61105706
>7.25%, and it's still too god damn high

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>>61105838
And of course I forgot the fucking image

>>61103718
That is really neat

>>61103060

this, really. It baffles me sometimes. We live in a huge diverse ecosystem that is thoroughly developed everywhere we would like it to be developed.

>>61105781
>not eating grass like a cow
major pleb

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>>61105532
So what is culture?
Throwing salt over your shoulder for good luck?
Drinking wine at every meal?
Storing maple syrup like its gold?
I think you small shit northern europoor countries think culture means that you are simply better than everyone else.
I cant even think of anything that is considered finnish culture
Maybe rally racing?
No idea

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>>61105464
>how small europe actually is
>s the same reason most Europeans don't understand how big each freaking state is.
I'm pretty sure you're underestimating the size of Europe

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>>61100736
Pauvre con.

>>61100917

Because we actually can?

How fucking stupid are you?

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>>61100736
Sale trou du cul.

>>61100736

What, having a vast and efficient farming system?

What's your point? Is this what qualifies as a "troll thread" now on /pol/?

>>61105569
You know that hill on 2222 that leads up to 620? That mofo has a name too, Tumbleweed Hill. I didn't know that until about a year ago.

>>61105383
>czech republic actually tried to fake his own history
you mean those two fake manuscripts that appeared in 1817?
but czech republic only exists since 1993

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>>61105971
>europe is almost as big as the us if i include 3 seas

>>61105710
>It's literally the reason why we can feed so many people today.
Yes, I know that, but it still requires energy.
>>61105726
I'm not mad at all, most likely I will visit the US some day as a tourist.
No, currently I can't afford it, I'm a fucking student(Or I could but it would be very bad for my savings)

>>61104716
We make movies and music about white women fucking niggers. We aren't the center of the world's culture anymore.

>>61105971
Wow Europe is actually really tiny

>>61103681

aye sorry for incorporating a bit of arabic into our vernacular.

>JUST

>>61105822
You know that big hill on 2222 that leads up to 620? That mofo has a name too; Tumbleweed Hill. I didn't know that until about a year ago.

>>61101994
Reminds me of the last time I was in L.A. You have to turn your head completely from left to right to see the entire city from the Hollywood hills. It felt pretty disgusting to see a city that big desu, just knowing how unsustainable it must be.

>>61102417
>3rd world complaining about what we do with our own corn.
> 3rd world complaining we found something more profitable than selling our corn to them for dirt cheap
Kek. Okay

>>61105984
>>61106026
Nobody said France don't have ugly parts

>>61106178
You people didn't appeared out of thin air

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>>61105838
Huh, TIL

We've got a ton of farming and swamp in the south.

The squares are grass farms / orange trees. South is the everglades. I put a scale on it for you.

>>61105953
you need to get off your ass and travel a bit.

>>61102600
You realize that is almost every single farming operation is the US is owned/operated by small families right?

>>61105411
>predatory pricing

lol

>>61102417
Shit skins mad because we figured out another use for corn that made it more profitable. LOL die of starvation nigger

>>61105516

envy

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>>61105971
you are showing how small it is...
The lower 48 are shown extending 300 miles off the coast of france to 400 miles east of russia
Basically its showing each state in the US could be compared to entire countries in europe

>>61102407
damn that's comfy

>>61105953

It's the only thing they have. Or think they have over us.

It's silly as shit. It's like a chihuahua trying to explain to a Great Dane why the chihuahua is the better dog.

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>>61106296
>La Beauce
>ugly

Leave my country.

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>>61106227
sure used to be

>>61105971
>>s the same reason most Europeans don't understand how big each freaking state is.
>I'm pretty sure you're underestimating the size of Europe

You're including oceans and excluding Alaska. But, alaska is like .... our sibera so yolo.

But seriously, florida VS finland.

https://mapfight.appspot.com/us.fl-vs-fi/florida-us-finland-size-comparison

We need state tags desu desu.

>>61100736
It's efficient.

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>>61102141
> a mile
> several kilometres

>>61106430
Biofuels are a part of the sustainable energy sources meme. They are even worse than solar.

>>61105971

One country. Europe is not one country, you half-frozen dipshit.

Though I do find it amusing when you irrelevant little nations love to bunch yourselves in with the whole of Europe when you wanna play the dick waving contest with us.

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>>61106242
>shifting into neutral and letting your car slide into +90mph

>>61106569
It's ugly and full of arabs. I've seen Etampes.

>>61105971
umm, you kind of just proved their point. The United States is covering up a majority of Europe, and the only areas that aren't covered are southern Spain, the extreme northern part of Scotland, and Scandinavia, which isn't highly populated and is subject to some distortion on any flat map, as shown by comparing the size of Greenland to South America on any square map.

>>61104250

This is the opposite of irony.

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>>61101933
>mfw bongs cut 75% of forests in UK to build ships

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>>61106317
Ive been all around the world senpai

>>61106065
>I didn't Include The Scandinavia
>I didn't Include half of Spain
>I ALMOST COMPLETELY LEFT OUT RUSSIAN TERRITORIES IN EUROPE.
>Europe:10,180,000 km2
>US:9,857,306 km

>inb4 muh Russia is just empty tundra
so is Alaska,
Most of your fucking country is empty preria

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>>61104234
>>61104698
>study this shit, still got 6 more classes on it
>never get a chance to talk about it to anyone
>see this thread
>explicit joy

>>61104915
Florida's a bitch, I'm not an expert on all of it.

It's mostly Spanish Land Grants mixed with USPLS and some smaller Euro colonial attempts.

See pic related: THE SOUTH SHOULD GIVE US OUR PORTS BACK.

>>61106611
Fine, 1.6 killmemeters, no need to be a pedantic little shit Kiwi.

>>61106622
Die you retard

>>61104250

>French New Orleans

Doesn't exist anymore. 99% of what you see in that city was built by the Spanish or Americans.

Besides, it's a nigger-filled toilet bowl, which is still an appropriate place for a frog.

>>61105971
We cover up alot of your water too. Not to mention the biggest state (alaska) isn't even included in this.

>>61106774
>Florida's a bitch, I'm not an expert on all of it.
>It's mostly Spanish Land Grants mixed with USPLS and some smaller Euro colonial attempts.


AYYY LAMMAOOO

Yeah, pretty much florida. Don't forget the trains and tourists.

But, I bought a bag of oranges for like $4 yesterday so that was nice.

>>61103523
> Craftsman homes
I am repulsed by this.
America's tendency to build disposable homes (sometimes not even low-income) is possibly one of my least favorite things about it.

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>>61103718
fuck the gov so hard

>>61103718
wow, genuinely grateful for this post. keep it up senpai

>>61106774
> Florida
tssss, more french land.

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>>61104499
>earth has missing textures

>>61106982

Feel free to leave at any time, traitorous scum.

>>61106771
You're seriously including russia? Doesn't russia hate your guts?

Also, alaska is actually pretty damn nice. Glaciers and salmon is delicious yo.

But yeah, be butthurt about your individual countries being literally insignificant.

>>61106771
But there is dispute on where in Russia Europe ends and Asia begins. Some people would see Russia as an European country, so count the nation in it's entirety as part of Europe, but I believe that with the uncertainty, it is safer for us to consider Russia to be Asian, at least in this comparison. Still, the fact that the US comes close to the size of all of Europe means that it makes sense why there is fly over country there, because there is most likely fly over country in Europe as well, but it is broken up by the borders between nations.

>>61107012
Fairly certain Florida was Spanish; most, not all French owned land was west of the Mississippi.

>>61104829

Our cities all have unique histories, charms, and characters. Your cities are more uniform. Although beautiful, there isn't a lot of diversity.

>>61101520
As someone who as driven large agricultural equipment and hauled 20 tones of cow shit this is a horriffic layout for large scale agricultural.

>>61107012

Christ you are stupid.

Do all Europeans not know their own history at all?

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>>61102141
>a literal mile (that's several kilometers for fags)

>>61102153
>because the american way of agriculture is not sustainable

There are people itt that seriously believe European farmers do not heavily rely on fertiliser, pesticides and vast amounts of very modern agricultural tech.

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eat shit france,

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>>61102749
>tfw this was my desktop in high school

>>61106858
he's right though.
biofuels are only profitable because of subsidies.
they're not sustainable because monocultures exhaust the land.
and they're not even carbon neutral because you need extra energy input to produce them

>>61105017

Great argument dude :D :D

>>61106624
>One country. Europe is not one country, you half-frozen dipshit.
How does that compare to anything?
On territory X we have more diverse people and more local independence than you have on similair sized territory Y.
>Though I do find it amusing when you irrelevant little nations love to bunch yourselves in with the whole of Europe when you wanna play the dick waving contest with us.
You're the one changing it to a dick waving contest.
>>61106574
I'm also excluding almost whole of Russia, dipshit.
>>61106463
Huh, you americans are weird people. Why would you ever think Europe is a "big" place compared to the US? You're the country the size of an actual continent.

>>61106771
If you get Russia. We get Canada.
Which just ruins your dick measuring contest.

>>61105432
>if you cut down trees i hate you.

It's a picture of Kansas, so you can calm down Hans.

>>61107347
There are fundamental differences how the soil is used in Europe and in the US, mainly because Europe has a lot less arable land left.

>>61101454
underrated toast

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>>61101272
>efficient farming methods

Half gulf of mexico is literally a dead wasteland because of "efficient farming methods"

>>61106430

>Americans never discovered sugarcane

>>61106268

>Austria
>third world

This >>61100736 is how this>>61101520 looked before it was carved up by inheritages, sales, confiscations, redrawn lines because of floods, more inheritages, more sales etc for hundreds of years

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>>61107384
>You're the country the size of an actual continent.

You seem to be forgetting somebody Johan.

>>61107533

Doesn't look like "half" to me, leafnigger.

>>61105724
Lighter squares are developed. Access roads usually run along the "edge" of the squares (see OP's pic.) Then meander "into" each square with side-roads going to individual properties/places.

Roads don't show to well at that scale, they're there though.

Basically: Every other developed land piece = sold to people by Railroad. SOME of the developed ones (right side) were granted to settlers in the wild-west days.

>all that woodland is unclaimed land
>people died of age before getting it
>or never claimed

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>>61101520

The farms where I live in Virginia have lines of trees between them like that.

My house is in this image.

>>61105411

What is your point again? America has no culture? Ok so what is it you are looking for as far as a countries "culture"? Siestas? Tea-time? What's going on in Finland that is so superior? Plenty of wonderful art, music, and literature has come out of the USA. What's the benchmark for good "culture"?

>>61107384
>On territory X we have more diverse people and more local independence than you have on similair sized territory Y.

Because it's nationalism and shit, we move all around the country, and it's an interesting difference. I take it you're not going to move into germany for schooling or a job, but I'm moving to texas, for example.

It's not a dick wavering contest, when it's an interesting look in patterns and migrations mate.

And yeah, I always assumed europe was larger man. Because, we're not the size of a continent mate, we're like 1/3 of the continent,

>>61107238
>there isn't a lot of diversity
confirmed for never being outside of Paris (or not even in France)

>>61107224
Nop, French first.

>>61107317
Learn your own

>>61107012
Florida was Spanish, Louisiana was french.

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>>61107517
We do high intensity soil degrading farming too.

Agriculture is a science of sorts, and everyone planet wide wanting to maximise productivity uses roughly the same methods.

The idea that Europe sustains itself from some small organic freeholds farmed by hobits it's ridiculous.

>pic related, Spain

>>61107224
>>61107317

TECHNICALLY he is right... France -conquered- Spanish land. IE: Pensacola, city of 5 flags.

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>>61104454
>Not stuffing your obsolete farm equipment in a cheap underwater coffin to make way for a landfill.

Shiggy diggy doo
Pic not related.

>>61105516

classic case of trying to pigeonhole our flaws due to inferiority feels.

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>>61100917
>This road setup makes more sense to the frenchman

>>61107830
uh, we waz KANGS

I mean french. French, yes.

They're sorta our oldest ally. DESU

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>>61107384
Main problem you eurocucks have is you think all of the US is the same
The US is so diverse its unimaginable for people from europe to understand.
One country can act like 40 different ones depending on where you are
Take NYC vs OKC its like being in a different country. That is just 2 cities compared...
Finland has a similar population to the Greater Boston area which is one city in the tiny state Massachusetts
Once you realize how large the US is its very hard to call someone "american" just based on how they look or talk or act.

>>61107799

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Florida

Wow. It's fucking nothing.