Lawsuit filed over whether Ted Cruz is a ‘natural born citizen’
Anyone can file a lawsuit over anything. Its a series of forms. That doesn't mean it gets past a judge.
That lawyer should also be disbarred.
>YOU HAVE2 B BURN IN 'MURICAN SOIL 2 B PREZ ##Trumpet
That's wrong, the only rule is that you must be an American citizen by birth. His mother was an American citizen so he is one. He is American by birth.
>That's wrong, the only rule is that you must be an American citizen by birth.
"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
Cruz is NATURALIZED AT BIRTH
becuase they are the least liked in the GOP.
i've always voted republican but, before this election, decided i was going to not vote because i'm tired of their shit.
trump is the perfect protest vote
do you not know what naturalization is?
Naturalized at birth simply means that he was automatically naturalized at birth, and doesnt have to go through the hoops that paco does to become naturalized
but he was not born on American Soil, and therefore, not Natural-Born
GoP dislike Trump and Cruz for entirely different reasons. Trump because he has a big mouth and isnt good for Republicans who are trying hard to change their image as being good for minorities.
Cruz is disliked because everyone who has ever worked with him absolutely hates him for being a slimy piece of shit
You are an idiot. The constitution says that as long as he is born an American citizen then he can be president. May as well say McCain (BORN IN PANAMA) can't be president.
Also see this post >>61094006
By that definition most of the first 10 presidents aren't American because they were born in British owned colonies
The constitution doesn't say you have to be born on American soil it says you have to be born an American citizen.
WHICH CRUZ WAS
>implying you cant be both at the same time
read the constitution --
No Person except a natural born Citizen,
>or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,
shall be eligible to the Office of President
>May as well say McCain (BORN IN PANAMA) can't be president.
He was born on a US military base, which is considered US soil.
>You are an idiot. The constitution says that as long as he is born an American citizen
no, it does not. it makes a clear distinction of elegibility for president requiring being Natural-Born, AKA born on American Soil, be it on the mainland, or a territory/military base/embassy
>Also see this post >>61094006
That only makes him a citizen in the same way that someone born in China to an American parent is an American by Birth. It doesnt change his status as not Natural-Born.
That's not how the founders intended it. Back then, the definition of "natural-born" came from from English common law. English common law, from that period, says that natural-born = born on the soil (i.e. Cruz is not eligible to become president).
You can't be serious. Have you never heard of dual citizenship?
I'm a citizen of both the United States and Israel, I can vote in both.
My friend is a dual American and Peruvian citizen, she HAS to vote in Peruvian elections or face a fine (a small fine, more of a warning).
Ted Cruz is fucking done, he should have just played it quiet and he could've had the VP slot but instead he got greedy and tried to take first.
>Wrong. A VP doesn't have to be natural born.
>"No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
Now, Speaker of the House, im not sure on. since speaker is third in line after VP. anyone want to clear that up?
Exactly Trump's point. Why have any doubt? He wants Cruz voters to see that even if there's 1% doubt among the courts when the Dems ultimately sue, why not cast your vote to Trump, where there is no doubt. Cruz copies all of Trump's ideas anyways.
>parents are American
>being born in Canada while your parents are there under military jurisdiction
The colonies were American soil. They may have been subjects of the british empire, but they were born on this continent. The whole point of that passage was to make sure that those who were born in the colonies held the highest office, not some faggot born in england who comes to rule the nation as a proxy for england.
pretty sure thats bullshit, svenhamed. the founders were English, ans as such made their laws based off of existing English laws they knew.
or are you saying that if a guy is born via C-section he cant be president?
his father was a cuban national at the time of raphael eduardo cruz's birth
Natural childbirth =!= natural born
This is a totally different context, moron. This is a legal context. What? You thought the founders meant that people born via c-section cannot become president? Idiot.
Also, you're from switzerland. Fuck off from American elections.
Law is so retarded. Laws should have an appendix attached where they explain in length their intention with each law in case there's any doubt in the future what they meant with something.
he's done. even if he beats it, the GoP will never nominate him. His questionable citizenship has become a liability.
When obama was questioned, he presented a hawaiian Birth Certificate. Cruz, is well known and admits to having been born in Canada. there's literally no question that he was NOT born in the US.
No legislation is required to define whom is Natural Born. Only one born of Citizen parents in America needs no legislation to declare that one a Citizen. Natural Law is above the Constitution.
Natural Law is not the Common Law. America was not intended to be a Kingdom where the government owns the Subjects.
Citizenship flows through the blood and cannot be usurped by any Monarch.
If they're born on the base, which counts as U.S. territory, they are natural-born. McCain was born on a base in Panama, this is why this wasn't an issue when he ran for president.
An exception should be made for Canadians... we should be allowed to be president aswell, come on it's 2016
I'm settling this shit once and for all.
Please read the United States Naturalization Law of March 26,1790
>It also provided for citizenship for the children of U.S. citizens born abroad, but specified that the right of citizenship did "not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States." It specifies that such children "shall be considered as natural born citizens,"
CRUZ WAS BORN TO A PARENT WHO WAS A CITIZEN!!!
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” -U.S. Supreme Court, Dred Scott vs. Sanford 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
Cruz supporters are living constitutionalists.
Why are the lelberals insisting that natural born is discriminatory? It isn't. The point about loyalties is obvious. Someone who isn't born here is highly unlikely to have friends and family in the states. They didn't grow up here, they weren't educated here, and they have few reasons to be invested in the nation as president.
This. And so much so.
>for me, I'm implementing his polices in my everyday business plans.
It just specifies fathers, which (after a series of equal rights amendments) would now include mothers.
It clearly only specifies one parent. Please go take a long walk off of a short pier.
>can't even read his own article that clearly states this law is no longer law
>it also says that your father had to be a citizen at the time, which his was not
You tried, Cruz is disqualified.
>after a series of equal rights amendments) would now include mothers.
What? No. That's nonsensical. Ted Cruz is not being denied a right, and his mother certainly isn't being denied a right. And the 14th Amendment applies to the states, not the federal government.
Take your liberal horseshit and go back to Canada.
And they removed the words "natural born". They made a mistake and they corrected it. They didn't want men like Ted Cruz to use that law as an excuse to infiltrate our government.
By the logic that Cruz is natural born due to just his mother being an American Citizen, you could just as well say that Cruz is a natural born Cuban Citizen.
Which is he?
Since there is a question Cruz cannot be Natural Born anything.
He's a true loyalty mongrel
This dumb fuck dug his own grave. I was going to vote Cruz but switching to Trump. Cruz lost last night, and it was painfully obvious.
I'm coming to the Trump train niggers, make some room!!!
No that means he was made an American citizen at birth by laws written after natural-born
was penned into the constitution. Original sources make a decent case that the term
is means they be born in the country.
All that aside why include the otherwise redundant "natural" in "natural-born citizen." Were the
founding fathers attempting to ban babies delivered to their mothers by stork from taking the
Not only was Ted Cruz's father a communist, but he was a terrorist, too. He used to run guns and firebomb buildings for Castro. The man literally terrorized people through violence because they were capitalists.
He should be in prison. And meanwhile, Ted Cruz brags about his father's terrorism.
Honestly, if it were up to me, I'd strip Ted Cruz's dad of his citizenship and try him for war crimes.
Ted Cruz's father did not become a US citizen until 2005
Is citizenship retroactive or something?
How can Ted Cruz possibly be a natural born citizen if he was born in Canada to a Cuban national father?
>Moreover, that statute did not say the children were natural born, only that they should “be considered as” such. Finally, as soon as Madison, then a member of Congress, was assigned to redraft the statute in 1795, he deleted the phrase “natural born,” and it has never reappeared in a naturalization statute.
btfo, sorry Cruz. I actually like the guy.
they did not.
it was barely an issue when he ran, because he was understood to have been born in a US Territory, which panama was at the time of his birth.
McCains birth was literally a nonissue
TED POO ON SUICIDE WATCH
CRUZ SUPPORTERS ABANDON SINKING SHIP
(even Rafael's father is voting for Donald)
§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state.
For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.
My bad. I think I got confused somewhere along the way. What I was referring to is Congress removing "natural born" from the naturalization statute they passed in 1790 after they saw it as an oversight.
I think we might be on the same side.
Edward yes. His name is Rafael.
thats like someone with the middle name Nicholas calling himself Nick despite his first name.
its also some false advertisement, senpai. even Rubio uses his real name
This lawsuit will only help Cruz. It will clear shit up so he can be Trump's VP (he has no chance of beating Trump anyway). He and Trump can start fixing shit, and he can go onto being either on the Supreme Court at some time during Trump's terms or carry on the legacy of Trump's term as representative of the Tea Party faction of the GOP as the next president, taking Paul as his VP to support the libertarian leaning wing.
As long as something doesn't go horribly wrong (probably will) we'll have 24 years of non-Establishment GOP presidents, reforming the GOP and ruining the progressive and authoritarian uprisings that are taking place.
SotH can be anyone. That said if the President and VP dies it would skip over them to the next in line.
You know panama was US territory until 1999 right? McCain was literally born on US soil. Just like Puerto Ricans are natural born US citizens.
McCain and Cruz are completely different situations, and the attempt to conflate the two means you are either extremely ignorant, or willfully attempting to obfuscate the issue.
>Jeb is literally an Acronym for John Ellis Bush.
>Ignoring the amendment 5 years later where they overwrote this
The naturalization act of 1790 was replaced with the naturalization act of 1795.
They realized they fucked up, and fixed it within 5 years you nigger, way to try and lie by omission.
Good. It would be very hypocritical for Republicans to make conspiracies about Obama not being American-born and then not do the same with Cruz, who they KNOW isn't American born.
Take it up to the courts. Then you'll have absolute confirmation on the issue.
All Trump has to do is make most Iowa voters aware Cruz was born in Canada and he literally wins the primary.
>Cruzfags on suicide watch
b-b-but trump LITERALLY JUST TOLD HIM TO BE WORRIED ABOUT THIS?!
ARE WE ALL JUST SPECS LIVING IN TRUMP'S DREAM!?
>Trump: Yo man better, get your shit together on this because they are going to sue you if you don't.
>Cruz: Yeah right that won't happen
>Trumps face when
LITERALLY NOT EVEN 24 HOURS SINCE TRUMP SAID IT WAS COMING