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Why are early humans depicted as white people?

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Why are the early humans always depicted as white?

They came from Africa, therefore they would be Negros? Also being negro is a distinct evolutionary advantage for hunter gatherer persons, as you cannot be seen at night by predators like large cats. It's only when humans migrated north that it was more of an advantage to blend with snow.
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>>61081298
>2016
>Believing the Out of Africa Theory
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>>61081298
Early humans were covered in hair thT offered protection from the sun. As the ones in Africa evolved out of body hair, their skin got darker.

They didn't evolve much after that.
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>>61081462
*that. Obviously.
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>>61081462
This. The UV radiation killed off niggers without shitskin. Meanwhile whites dont need shitty skin.
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>>61081298
muhamad's at it again.
okay ill take the b8.

your camo theory about the skin color is retarded.
also body hair helped with uv radiation
they're not depicted as white, just not as west africans.
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>>61081298
>>61081388
>>61081462
>>61081550
>evolution
?
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>>61081298
> therefore they would be Negros?
no they do look more ape-ish
< this erectus look african?
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First, blacks aren't humans. Second, humanity did not originate in Africa, even when ignoring the first part.
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Man was created as recorded in Genesis, not evolved
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First humans came from Finland. Educate yourselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjIgfQFTOKs&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=Sukinsun
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>>61082220
lol religioustard

you are right men come from dust and women from men s ribs. top kek
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>>61081743

if body hair protects against UVs which is why they are depicted as light-skinned, then why do gorillas (who we share like 99% of our DNA with) have jet black skin? Chimps also have a mixture of light and dark, many have mostly dark skin. Explain.
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>>61081550
your argument is invalid since the color of skin is not determined by the amount of shit found in it's cells, shit has no role in determining a persons skin color.
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>>61082427
>he thinks white people "evolved" consciences and morals
You know, an intelligent nigger would not be White.
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>>61081298
Kek
The early humans were Asian if anything
Both black and white genes are genetic mutations
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Oy vey
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>>61082165
No matter what theory you believe, human ancestors originated in Africa and spread out from there.
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>>61083047
Do you actually believe this? Do you actually believe you can get a White person out of a nigger? Niggers are bad, doesn't matter if they were "selected" for anything. They're just, consciously bad. You can't get a White person out of a nigger.
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>>61082658
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>>61082815
Hey, the Cuckwars guy.
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>>61083183

every race of people on earth, other than those from sub-saharan Africans, has a small percentage of Neanderthal DNA

in other words, blacks out of Africa mixed with Neanderthals

Neanderthals had larger brains

Neanderthals had already learnt how to survive in colder climates

Neanderthals had lighter skin because they lived further from the equator

The genetic distance between some human races is GREATER THAN the distance between primates (gorillas, chimps, bonobos, orangs, etc)
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>>61083865
>dna
>jewish studies
Jews popularized the idea of "evolution."
Literally, what makes you think you can get a White person out of a nigger? You can't. You can't get a White person out of a kike. It's impossible. By the way, how come nobody's ever just "proven" the theory of "evolution" by demonstrating it in a lab? Could it be because you can't make new species, out of one species? Otherwise, someone could have done it.
>human races
>literally saying "human race"
>marxism
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>>61084167
You bloody retard, humans didn't evolve from subhumans, humans and subhumans share a common ancestor.

I swear to François Hollande, if you spout "if we evolved from monkeys why are there still monkeys around" ill shank u
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>>61084167
You're a fucking retard.
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>>61084661
Cool.
>>61084577
Uh, what's the difference? Do you think what I said would change if it was monkeys instead of niggers? Of course not.
>>61084661
Again, cool.
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>>61083047
That was debunked by the merchants.

http://news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/oldest-human-israel-101228.htm

Back in 2010 Israel debunked out-of-Africa theory by finding 400,000 year old jew remains.
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>>61084167

if evolution isn't a real phenomenon (is just a fancy word for genetic change) why do we need to develop new vaccines to fight off old viruses that have adapted?
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>>61084963
I'm leaning towards agreeing with you.

Why is there no empirical evidence for evolution yet? Seems fishy aka jewy
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>>61085328
Adaptation ≠evolution
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>>61084167
>>61085328
Fucking Lord. This is why no one takes the alt right seriously.

Why don't you niggers start by googling evolution? Maybe read a wikipedia article on it?
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>>61085530
>why don't you stupid goyim just listen to the Jews!
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>>61085530
I'm not saying you are, but that is shill talk. Can you tell me what a wikipedia article says instead of just "look it up?"
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>>61081298
So fucking what? If you're OK with having niggers in movies about the middle ages what's wrong with white people portraying cavemen?
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>>61081794
Yes, evolution. Out of china theory>o of africa
Niggers fucked chimps in Africa and devolved
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>>61081298
Taxonomy artists realize how similar pre-humans look to modern Africans when they draw them. They lighten the skin for social sensitivity.
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>>61085644
>>61085702
No, no one cares if you want to wallow in your ignorance. Just shut the fuck up and stop making the rest of us look like idiots too.
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>>61084167
This is either a retard or more likely a shill trying to discredit /pol/. Later on he/she will link to these posts to demonstrate how bad this place is.

Ignore it.
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>>61083047
Why then shovel shaped teeth already existed in china way before the supposed african world wide migration?
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>>61085936
Ad hom suck my cock
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>>61085530
Not everyone on the alt right is creationist fucktard
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>>61081298
We wuz kings n shit.

Meanwhile back in the jungle.

https://youtu.be/d4it7RIT8RY?list=PLZBhP7Rn3HBbdDPl6E2PYn7WnMbx7qhT8
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>>61086004
Not an ad hominem at all. I called you an idiot because you were wrong, I didn't say you were wrong because you were an idiot.

Besides that, I'm slightly surprised you don't think logic and rhetoric are kike inventions designed to stop your MUH JAYZUS I AINT NO MANKEY arguments as well.
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>>61085419

lol genetic adaptation is what evolution is, retard

why do you think so many arctic species have white fur / plumage? do you think God did that, or do you think all the dark-furred species were easier to spot in the snow and were wiped out before they could breed?
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>>61085936
>>61085943
>actual evolution shills
>>61086208
No, macro-evolution is different from micro-evolution. You can breed dogs, but nobody's ever made a new species.
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>>61086133
I'm not a creationist fuck tard but I'm not about to suck the circumcised Jewish dick that is evolution.

What I accept is that humans are fucking stupid, and theories change more frequently than your mother changes her panties.

When all the so called "experts" agree on something, that's a good indication that something is afoul.
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>>61086263
We made corn from wheat.

>>61086297
>What I accept is that humans are fucking stupid,
"I'm smarter and so much more mature than other kids my age, lel!"

>and theories change more frequently than your mother changes her panties.
So? The details are worked out within the larger paradigm. Theories changing is a good thing, as it is the dismissal of incorrect theories in the face of new observational data.

>When all the so called "experts" agree on something, that's a good indication that something is afoul.
All math professors agree that 2+2=4 (within the standard axioms). Is something fishy about arithmetic, or are you just a ultraskeptical faggot on evolution?

>fuck tard
Back to /b/.
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>>61086489
It's evolution. Adaptation doesn't result in a new species. There are no recorded incidents of a new species emerging in human history.
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>>61086619
Strawman the post
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>>61086263
>microevolution is different from macroevolution. Nobody has ever created a new species.
>Then where do new species come from?
>Idk, magic?
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>>61086297
Stop reading varg's blog. He is a nut case
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>>61081298
Logically speaking, it would make sense that the original humans had light skin. Dark skin evolved as a result of exposure to the sun, as it provides better protection, not the other way around.
This is also obvious if you look at the palms and soles of black people. They're pale, meaning that's the original skin color, and it never evolved into dark skin because protection from the sun is not needed in those areas of the body.

Furthermore, people seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that the humans who left Africa weren't modern humans, and they didn't leave at a single point in time. Homo Erectus, Neanderthals and modern humans all lived in Eurasia at the same time. Furthermore, neanderthals never lived in Africa, as no remains have been found there, and sub-Saharan Africans don't have any traces of neanderthal genes, while all other human races do.

Point is, we didn't evolve from negroes. We evolved from a common ancestor.
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>>61081298
>Why are the early humans always depicted as white?
Because nonwhites aren't human.
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>>61086658
>There are no recorded incidents of a new species emerging in human history.
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>>61086619
Again strawman.

But I just wanted to show how retarded you are. Your 2+2 analogy makes no sense. It is easily verifiable that two things plus two more things equals four things.

Show me similar proof of evolution.
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>>61086297

>>61086619
>we made corn from wheat
What makes you think it's a different species?

>details are worked out
Yeah, they'll also tell you race doesn't exist in the first place.

All sociologist "professors" will tell you the same Marxism. There are fields like math, but there are fields like this.

>>61086751
>where do new species come from
Is this a literal shill? My point was: what new species? Why has nobody just made a new species?
>>61086924
Yeah? Do you have something that says otherwise?
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>>61081794
The guy who first suggested the Out of Africa Theory has since said it was wrong and that the truth is much more complicated with tons of different groups present across the whole earth
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>>61086658
It's not fucking pokemon you idiot. A new species doesn't just pop up one day.

>>61086719
Am I being trolled here? Stop wasting my god damn time with meaningless logical fallacy post like this is Reddit you fucking worthless nigger.

>>61086965
Why are you replying to my same post twice?
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All you cunts. Read :http://erectuswalksamongst.us/
Its not to be taken as truth but it s good to have as a contrast to jewish boasian BS
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>>61081298

melanin production became polarized as time went on. Skin color traits were exaggerated.

Early humans were probably a middle-pigment, like Asian people since they had hair blocking the sun for them.

After losing their hair, the humans that went up north lost their pigment as it was an an unnecessary metabolic cost (maybe also served an obstacle to hygiene but that's my personal theory) and people in the southern equatorial areas adapted dark skin to deal with UV radiation and little shelter.
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>>61086869
thats what the actual scientists say too -not about the skin colour shit (but that does make sense) but about how there were different groups everywhere
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>>61086924
Discovery of new species is not the same as the emergence of a new species.
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>>61087035
It's never happened. It has never been done.
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>>61087035
Literally all you can do is ad hom and strawman.

Go back to reddit you fucking faggot.
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>>61081298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtXby3twMmI

Those times were the good old days.
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>>61082427
No idiot, women were created from the jaw bone of an ass.
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>it's a mentally ill cultist denies evolution episode
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>>61087016
>>61087132
>>61087185
You've wasted enough of my fucking time, retards.

>>61087185
Especially you, you autistic little brat.
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>>61087132
That's because it takes thousands of years to happen you triple nigger.
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>>61087311
That's right, admit defeat and head back to your atheist echo chamber, you sodomite.
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>>61081298
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>>61086297

The fact that gene therapy works is pretty much evidence for evolution pal.

Random mutations happen all the time, when differences become so drastic that the species cannot reproduce with the wildtype- that's evolution.

It's also very obvious with animals that reproduce quickly. Selective pressures influence who survives and who dies.
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>>61081298
This is not the right board to be asking this. Many different humanoids came from Africa, the ones that had black skin for the hot weather, many still were hairy after leaving Africa did not really have black skin.
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>>61081298
>>61081298
This info is now 6 years old. The data supporting the scientist's perspective in the video is even stronger today.

Anyone worth their salt in genetics understands that race exists, and humans really ought to be considered subspecies or breeds at the very least, and ideally separate species from two genus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4cxOT8Kd7U

Watch the video, you won't regret it.
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>>61087311
>autistic little brat

LITERALLY REDDIT

ahahahaha

Go read the works of the actual theorists behind "Out of Africa". Rethinking Out of Africa is a good place to start.


It's not anywhere near as simple as you think.
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>>61087357
I admit nothing. Have fun worshiping your crucified kike's revision of Judaism, cuckold.
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>>61087545
You're finished, kiddo.
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>>61087256
Fuck off, I guess you're a shill.
>mentally ill
>>61087311
Want to know how I know you're a shill?
>>61087364
>gene therapy
You don't mean activating new genes, just by turning them on, do you? I'm obviously not talking about micro-evolution, I mean new species appearing. I know genetics change, within a species.

By the way, how are new species with different numbers of chromosomes supposed to exist? Last time I checked, wrong number of chromosomes is bad. And, extremely rare.
>>61087404
>not the right board
Why?
>>61087545
>kike
>judaism
Christ was not a jew, He was White. The OT is not jewish, it is White.
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>>61087247
Monkeys in the video are Muslim, I haven't seen a single female.
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>>61087363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3D3KX0l7M8

Every time I put an link of national geographic documentary it doesn't show up on post... ffs
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>>61087364
>gene therapy
How?

Has there ever been an instance where these mutations result in an offspring so different that it is no longer able to reproduce with the same species?

Oh it has never ever once happened in recorded science? Fuck off then
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>>61087486
is he criticized for saying this stuff? Or do the jews just try to downplay or hide it
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>>61087860
That is quite obviously a kike.
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>>61087520
>LITERALLY REDDIT
Fuck you and your fucking leaf.

>>61087651
>mfw
Oh good, I thought you weren't merely funposting.

>>61087745
>Want to know how I know you're a shill?
Because you think everyone who doesn't agree with you is a shill.

>>61087745
>Christ was not a jew, He was White. The OT is not jewish, it is White.
Jesus was a Jew, you worship a Jew, and you are probably a shitskin who doesn't want to admit that you are an inferior race, which you must if you accept evolution.
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>>61087751
Actually they worship Dr Zais
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>>61087827
Certainly, but there's no point in telling you about it
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>>61087966
He says race exists...suggest that it should be sub-species and that there are huge differences between them all.

How is that yiddish?
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>>61087860
No. His work, while extremely influential in the realm of genetics and anthropology, is almost exclusively restricted to the world of high science. As a result, laypersons either don't have the interest or will to know about it, and therefore it doesn't affect social engineering.

Since his work affects science, but not society, and since his work is excellent robust science that isn't easily refuted by other scientists, let alone laypersons, it would be a waste of time attacking him.
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>>61088014
You watch anime and call people little brats

That behaviour is not found here and I guess i'll take your word for it that you don't go on reddit - since I've never been there and you seem to know what goes on there

Back to wherever you came...quickly now
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>>61081298
what are you even defining as "Early human"?
Lucy, at 3 million or so years old? Or Neanderthal, at 40,000 years old?

Any early human that lived north of modern day turkey would likely be "white," even if with darker skin do to sun exposure.
Anyone living south of there would be darker. maybe not negroid, but certainly not white.

when "early human" comprises dozens of species over a 3 million year window, you have to be much more fucking specific. Otherwise you just sound like you're saying stupid shit.
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>>61088119
his book the 10,000 year explosion was recommended to me by a scientific friend....does it go into detail about race and such? I'd like to understand what he says without having to search for his academic papers and read through jargon I don't get.
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>>61088183
I have no idea what you are trying to say here. What is your point in posting?
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>>61085530
>This is why no one takes the alt right seriously
Then why do you take a shitposter seriously?
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sing with me /pol/!


I hate every ape I see!

From chimpan-A to Chimpanzee!

Oh you'll never make a monkey out of me!!!


Oh my god! I was wrong! It was Earth all along...
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>>61088067
>yiddish
He's a kike.
>>61088014
No, I think everyone who acts like a shill is a shill.
Christ was not a kike.

>Egyptian depictions of them showed them with red, blond, or sometimes black hair, and then often blue eyes (Canaan And Canaanite in Ancient Egypt, by Alessandra Nibbi, 1989, UK). They were described as appearing no different from Greeks (Josephus' Antiquities 12.5.1), and King David was described as ruddy (Sam. 16:12). Esau, the grandson of Abraham, and the brother of Jacob, the progenitor of the Israelites had red hair (Genesis 25:25).
(Pictured: Residents of Galilee from the time of Christ from Mosaic found in Sepphoris)

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

"Ought ye not to know that the Lord God of Israel gave the kingdom over Israel to David for ever, even to him and to his sons by a covenant of salt?" 2 Chron. 13:5

"And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of." Gen. 35:11

"This day will I begin to put the dread of thee and the fear of thee upon the nations that are under the whole heaven, who shall hear report of thee," Deut 2:25

“My beloved is white and ruddy, chosen out of thousands. His head is as the finest gold: his locks as branches of palm trees, black as a raven.” Song of Songs 5:10-11

“Her Nazarites were whiter than snow, purer than milk, more ruddy than the old ivory, fairer than the sapphire.” Lamentations 4:7

Dead sea scrolls apocryphal description of Sarah (Abraham's wife):

"“Her skin was pure white;
'She had long lovely hair;
Her limbs were smooth and rounded (her thighs were shapely)
'She had slender legs and small feet;
'Her hand were slim and long and so were her fingers.”
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>>61088309
that you might really enjoy and fit in with this website called.

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>>61088532
Jesus was a Jew, you worship a Jew, and you are probably a shitskin who doesn't want to admit that you are an inferior race, which you must if you accept evolution.

>>61088596
Didn't you say you've never been?
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>>61088532
He says race exists and that there are huge difference among them. Suggests that they are so different that they really are sub-species

What the fuck are you sperging on about?
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>>61081298
personally i dont belive negro theory.
some say that the first white person was mediterrenean.
maybe they could speak and the white poeple left the negroes and formed their own race
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>>61088294
It's a good read. The information is a little old now but still more or less on target. Genetics, as a science, moves so incredibly quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvoiPUHfOXI

This is also a good video presented by another influential geneticist/anthropologist.

Like I said. Any geneticist or anthropologist worth their salt in the scientific community understands the racial differences very well.
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>>61088532
Apocryphal description of Noah, from the book of Enoch, chapter 106:

"2. And his body was white as snow and red as the blooming of a rose, and the hair of his head †and his long locks were white as wool, and his eyes beautiful†. And when he opened his eyes, he lighted up the whole house like the sun, and the whole house was very bright. 3. And thereupon he arose in the hands of the midwife, opened his mouth, and †conversed with† the Lord of righteousness. 4. And his father Lamech was afraid of him and fled, and came to his father Methuselah. 5. And he said unto him: 'I have begotten a strange son, diverse from and unlike man, and resembling the sons of the God of heaven; and his nature is different and he is not like us, and his eyes are as the rays of the sun, and his countenance is glorious."

>>61088687
Kill yourself kike, you're burning in hell anyway.
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>>61081298
They are not white, pinkish pale skin is usually the skin color of primates due to their fur covering it preventing it a need to produce more melanin for UV protection.
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>>61088925
There is no God and there is no hell. It is the Eternal Jew that you worship, cuck.
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>>61081298
dark skin and light skin are easily explained.
We need vitamin D to exist. However, it is actually poisonous in high quantities.
Melanin inhibits the body's ability to take in sunlight and make its own vitamin D.
If you live in a hot area of the world, where intense daylight is constant, you spend 90% of waking time under the sun, and you need few clothes to stay warm which maximizes skin available to the sun, you get dark skin. to protect you from sun damage and from excessive levels of vitamin D.

What happens when you move north?
Much shorter days, especially in the winter. less direct, intense sunlight. due to increased need for shelter, significantly less than 90% of your time spent out doors. A need to be clothed. And wheat. Grains are very low in vitamin D. If you look at world wide trends, different peoples world wide living the same distance from the equator tend to have similar skin darkness. the exception is Europeans. Our staple food is very low in vitamin D. Dropping enormous amounts of melanin from our skin was a desperate need, evolutionarily. our amazingly light skin allows for a MUCH higher natural production of vitamin D, without which we would die.

Any "early human" who lived north of turkey would be in ice age weather. cold, short days, need for clothes. and eating naturally growing wheat as an easy, high calorie part of their diet. such early humans would, in just a few short generations, lighten massively. neanderthals live in Europe for 140,000 years or so. they were as white as anyone else after the first thousand of that.
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>>61081298

They started 'white' (If you consider the guy in your pic white then the UK is more fucked than I thought) because they were covered in hair. Do chimps look like they have black skin to you?
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>>61081298
because humans are white.
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>>61088945
That's incorrect. There are hair covered monkeys/primates with jet black skin. It really depends on the species and what was selected for over time. Diet, nutritional requirements, and sun absorption has an effect, but it's way more complicated than that.
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As a biologist it makes me angry when people don't understand we're all a sub-species of humans.

The only fucking reason we say "race" is to not make the underdeveloped niggers feel better about themselves.
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>>61089257
Excuse me.
Feel bad about themselves*
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>>61087520
>A FUCKING LEAF
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>>61088687
Jesus was a Judeans, you fucking idiot redditor faggot.
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>>61087827

yes, flies and fish mostly because they have short generation times.

Gene therapy can create "fail safes' so that GMO if leaked outside into the enviroment cannot breed with local wildtype species. You can make organisms incompatible with wild species so they can only breed with each other.
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>>61085387
>empircal evidence
Have fun studying 100.000 years obongo
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>>61089251
Yes I know mandrills, Gorillas and Baboons have black skin. However a nude chimp looks like a mutated white person while an albino gorilla looks like a white person skin tone wise.
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>>61089425
That's a Jew.
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>>61089155
This anon gets it re: humans.

In northern latitudes, dark skinned people, but especially sub saharan african blacks, suffer from vitamin D deficiency due to the lack of sunlight. Especially so in the winter where heavy clothes and indoor living exacerbates the problem. The result is that in northern latitudes, especially in winter, dark skinned and especially black people suffer from broken bones and connective tissue damage at a very high rate.

Fair skinned asians and caucasians literally don't have this problem due to their selected adaptations.

It's well known in ERs and the medical world in general.
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>>61089155
why did i waste my time, on /pol/ in a race thread, writing a real answer?
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>>61088861
Lol liberals in the comments complaining that the video was politicized

Yes...the university of commiefornia is right winged

Jesus these people can't ever see what's staring them in the face

>>61089061
you cannot claim with 100% certainty that it does not exist. Only reddit-tier atheists are that fucking idiotic.
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>>61088183
Uhh if you don't watch anime why the fuck are you on 4chan? This place was made by and is populated by people who like anime. Fuck off newfag and go back to reddit, no one wants your new fag edge.
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>>61084167
all evolution deniers like you should be dragged out and shot.
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>>61089573
Are you saying race doesn't exist?
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>>61089576
>you cannot claim with 100% certainty that it does not exist
And yet, I just did. And if there is a God, it is not the Jew god or his pacifist cuck son. And diety that would claim the Jews as his chosen people should not be called a god.
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>>61089584
ahahaha

>trying to justify degenerate activity as the norm

I've only ever been on /lit/ and /k/ with /his/ being a nice new thing for us non-degenerates
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No, humans evolved into negroides. But thankfully evolved into Mongoloids too.
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>>61089776
Like i said - you are exhibiting the same behaviour that you are speaking against.

Only retarded liberals actually live in a world of cognitive dissonance and doublethink
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>>61089673
I'd argue it doesn't and we're all sub-species. We can interbreed but we exhibit vastly different phenotypes. We say the same things of other mammals, reptiles, amphibians. So why not humans?

Answer: to protect feelings
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>>61084167
You are cancer.
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>>61089576
It's unfortunate that political agenda attempts to deny science. It's even more unfortunate that a significant portion of the populace, left or right, as bought the agenda, hook, line, and sinker to the point where individual laypersons surrender their ability to think critically in order to feel good about agreeing with the political agenda.

What it basically amounts to is this... political agenda, when it interferes or attempts to interfere with science, is quite simply anti-intellectualism.
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>>61081298
They looked like chimps. Chimps have white skin.
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>>61089815
At Least you're not denying the obvious that you come from reddit. Also how would a asian cartoon that you watch for 20 minutes make you degenerate? I'd like to hear an answer to that.

What's degenerate is
>DUDE WEED LMAO
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>>61085387
>Why is there no empirical evidence for evolution yet?
An atheist can ask why isn't there any physical proof of God and you'd say he's a heretic. Try studying human evolution over millennia without losing any data, having wars, religious schisms that destroy your data and general human error when taking a sample and then come back here when you learnt how retarded you are.
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>>61090190
I bet you watch anime in Japanese and jerk off to anime girls, fantasizing on your waifu
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>>61089906
I mentioned in a previous post that subspecies or breeds really ought to be accepted as the difference between people.

Much like breeds of dogs there are extreme examples (like a chihuahua) and there are gradual changes (like Belgian shepherds and German shepherds, similar but different, both geographically, genetically, and in phenotype).

Going further this introduces interesting things to consider when it comes to human breeding.

If however, and I suspect it to be true with the way the evidence is currently pointing into the dark, that humans really are several subspecies of species deriving from two genus.
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>>61089901
What double think? What the fuck are you talking about? Isn't weed still illegal up there, you incoherent retard?
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>>61086869
Then why are armpits and general areas darker?
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>>61087029
Source?
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>>61090317
They have to be. There are vast physical differences between the human "races" and it's ridiculous to me that we ignore them for the sake of saying we are all the same when we are factually not.

There are massive physical, and mental, differences between "races". It's a shame this cannot be brought up for fear of being racist but it's entirely true.

The dogs example is perfect, as they can all breed together, however a person would not call them races rather than breeds. Why are we exempt?
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>>61090268
I watch one maybe two episodes if i have some extra time in the given week. You probably spend more time posting on reddit then i do watching asian cartoons.
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>>61084167
Shut up you pol discrediter shit. Get your ass and bait >>>/out/
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>>61090503
Genital areas*
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>>61082526
I guess that blacks are more closely related to chimps than whites. That's not really surprising though.
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>>61088717
He's a kike, damned kike.
>>61089061
Kill yourself, kike.
>>61089166
>evolution
>>61089179
>sweden
>>61089257
>as a biologist
Fuck off, shill.
>>61089504
Not what "jew" means now.
>>61089644
Yeah, in a gulag, right? I'm sure you'd love that, shlomo.
>>61089896
Kill yourself, kike.
>>61089776
>jew
Fuck off, kike.
>>61089916
Kill yourself.
>>61090787
kike detected
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>>61089673
largely, yes.
there are some minor differences, between different peoples, but the fact that we can interbreed with fully viable and fertile offspring means that we are not just the same species, but the same race.

Lions and Tigers are the same species. Cat. They are different races of cat. It is harder for them to breed, and when they do, the offspring has a lower chance of survival, and if it does survive it is almost always sterile. Always so if male.

No, the difference is in culture. Nigger culture, both "traditional" African and modern American, is a travesty that celebrates violence and failure.

"But anon, when white families adopt black kids, they don't turn out much better! and mixed kids with white ancestory tend to be the mythical 'black people' people try to say exist, to counter the claim all blacks are niggers!"

black kids raised in a white how seek to find out more about 'their people" and dive headlong into emulating them. it is not a predisposition to act this way, it is a psychological need to become more like others of "their kind."

As for mulattoes? they aren't black enough to be black. and their peers know it, and treat them poorly. they often can not find a place for themselves in black culture. And so they try to find some acceptance the other way, and adopt "white" culture, and become successful people. because despite their dark skin, they soon learn that they ARE, indeed, able if they try hard, and they learn that, no, whitey is not conspiring to keep them down.
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>>61091051
>Being this defensive
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>>61091051
>insanity in 25 lines or less

>>61090635
>>61090317
>>61089959

Interesting stuff guys thanks. Its pure logic and I've always understand it this way. It's nice to know that real science is always happening despite what political bullshit the media feeds us.
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>>61091051
You literal just posted a list calling 10 people who disagreed with you either a kike or a shill, and you still have the nerve to refuse to believe that you are a retard.

Fucking creationists, not even once.
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>>61091141
Cats are Felis and Lions and Tigers are Panthera completely different genuses.
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>>61091141
what about what these guys said. Or is that what you are saying in a roundabout less offensive way

>>61090635
>>61090317
>>61089959
>>61088861
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>>61091051
>>>61088717
>He's a misogynist, damned misogynist.
>>>61089061
>Kill yourself, misogynist.
>>>61089257
>>as a biologist
>Fuck off, rapist.
>>>61089644
>Yeah, in a rape dungeon, right? I'm sure you'd love that, cis-scum.
>>>61089896
>Kill yourself, misogynist.
>>>61089776
>>jew
>Fuck off, misogynist.
>>>61089916
>Kill yourself.
>>>61090787
>misogynist detected

look, change it from your Jew bullshit to feminist bullshit, keep all your logical fallacies in place, and you sound JUST like an SJW.
Why don't you move to tumblr? start a blog.
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>>61091451
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>61090317
what are the two genus?
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>>61091451
>>61091051
Only 400 replies different, not bad.
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>>61091377
that does nothing to discount the point I made about lions and tigers. all it does is make a bitchy comment about semantics with me calling both "cats."
Well, seeing as all cats fall under the same Family in the KPCOFGS breakdown, i'd say you still failed. "cats" and "big cats" are both still feline. they are cats.
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>>61089584
"Uhh if you don't worship the great spirit why the fuck are you in Bia Dipe? This place was made by and is populated by native Americans who like the great spirit. Fuck off newfag and go back to Europe, no one wants your new fag Christianity."
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>>61089456
Pretty decent evidence.

This anon has my respect.
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>>61091389
I acknowledged there were some differences. However, they are largely cosmetic. the biggest failing of Negroes is glad adherence to lazy, worthless, unproductive cultures.

break them of that, and there is not very much cognitive difference remaining between them and any other people.
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>>61090236
And yet an atheist basis their entire faith on the lack of empirical evidence of God.
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>>61091584
i'm talking about... and I'll go slowly here, I know thinking is hard for some people.... how the FIRST PERSON QUOTED (>61091051) said EVERYTHING ELSE I QUOTED (all the replies to other threads were his), however, I changed jewish slurs he used, to anti-male slurs feminists use, to show how he acted, sounded, and even thought like an SJW.
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>>61091835
By your logic we're the same species as the other great apes, Gorillas and Orangutans. We cannot breed with them, just like domestic cats cannot breed with big cats.

But we are not.

There are multiple sub-species of Homo sapiens known as "races" as well as multiple species of the domestic house cat, known simply as breeds.

We recognize that breeds of house cat are different and actively speak of the benefits of their breed.

But humans? We do not. We simply say everyone is equal and the same, which is factually false.
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>>61092215
Excuse me
Sub-species of domestic house cat*
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Protohumans had much more hair. Increased melanin skin content in african homo sapiens was an adaptation that occurred AFTER the loss of complete body fur.
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>>61082220
>Implying that evolution and Christianity can't be reconciled at all
When God divided mankind with language so that the Tower of Babel couldn't be completed, people spread out across the world. Babel was somewhere in present day Africa, and the people who didn't migrate elsewhere changed very little. While the rest of mankind was evolving in order to improve their ability to thrive in their new environment, the niggers dindu nuffin. That's what I believe, at least.
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>>61092080
You've been bombarded with evidence, what more do you need? My analogy was to compare an evolution denier with an evangelical "you're going to hell for x reason" preacher in that they both condemn the other side even though logic and evidence is presented before them.
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>God created men in His own image
>God is white
>The first men were white

What's so hard about this?
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>>61081298
something to do with eurocentricity i suppose
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>>61092215
No. By my logic, lions and tigers are cats just like house cats are cats, because they share the same family.
lions and tigers can breed with each other because they share the same family and genus, but their offspring is infertile because they are different species.

by my logic, humans and apes like gorillas, are both types of great apes, because we share the same family, Hominidae. However, because we are a completely different genus, no inbreeding could take place.

I was using "species" in its layman, non scientific use, by which I mean "type."
All cats are of the same type. They are all cats. We see them as all different members of the cat species (again, layman's point of view).
All great apes, including humans, are the same type. We are all apes. Using the same layman's language, that means to the average person, you could say we are of the same species. I am not arguing that we are one and the same, nor am i saying we can breed.

you are either not reading what I am writing, or you are willfully misinterpreting it.
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>>61081298
they're not, habib. white race is the one that evolved. write it down
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>>61092620
You are fucking retarded if you think the tower of babel actually happened, it was a metaphor made by jews to explain why humans were so divided you stupid idiot.
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>>61092816
>"his own image"
>this guy thinks that God is a pasty humanoid with 4 limbs, body hair, and genitals
>doesn't even consider that the phrase could be figurative, and that God meant he would create us as sentient, thinking beings, like he is, as opposed to a base animal
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>>61091690
The common ancestry to Homo-Sapiens (note one sapiens not two) from Africa some 300,000 years ago.

The non common ancestry to other archaic humans who lived throughout the world but who also derived from a considerably earlier migration from Africa. The DNA from these various archaic human populations appear in the various races or indigenous populations around the world. What's interesting is that in many, if not most, cases, the various peoples of the world are the way they are not because they've been in those environments as their modern selves long enough for adaptations to be selected for, but because they have a significant introgression of archaic human DNA in them from archaic humans who were in those locations long enough for those traits to be selected for.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v512/n7513/full/nature13408.html

Is a good example.

The exclusively out of africa might be true on a long enough timeline but I'm wondering if many Archaic human types might also have started their own line so to speak, they were that significantly different. Much like pan and homo... a third option.
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>>61081298
>blended with snow

do you think they ran around in the fucking snow naked?
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>>61092027
Would you be interested to know that sub-saharan african cellular respiration is fundamentally different enough that heart medicine that normally works on caucasians or asians has very poor efficacy on blacks? So much so that pharmaceutical companies have developed and are developing race specific medicine.

Look up the heart drug "bidil". It isn't just skin deep. And the differences between races, according to our robust classification methods, suit very well the notion of subspecies, or even species.
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>>61093263
Still applies more to whites than other races.
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>>61092815
Yes I am coming around to your side. >>61089456
This anon provided the only decent evidence that I've seen.
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>>61093146
Inter-species and inter-genus reproduction doesn't always result in unviable offspring. Especially so if the offspring is female.

Female mules are often viable.

Bos (cattle) and Bison (buffalo) are two different Genus. They effectively mate. most remaining north American bison have significant introgression of Bos DNA. Pure NA Bison are actually prized for their rarity now, and command relatively expensive stud fees.
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>>61093973
someone obviously has never seen the IQ test results of Azkanazi Jews or Asian people.

>>61094056
see, this is why I make the claim that you do not actually read what I wrote.

>>61091141
>and if it does survive it is almost always sterile. Always so if male.
I may have been wrong to say "almost always sterile," but I did acknowledge that some can be fertile, if female, and that it is male hybrids who i stated were always sterile.

>>61093777
that is interesting. but it is also unsurprising that a segregated, uneffected by the rest of humanity population would develop slightly differently. such a change does not make them a different species, nor does it address the point of cognitive abilities by race.
"your own first point about Ashkanazi and Asian IQ does, though!"
I was being an ass, mostly. Also, both cultures emphasize a push on learning, schooling, and success. their higher levels are due to cultural motivation.
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>>61094558
Azkenazi kikes are white
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>>61094558
IQ isn't a great way to measure godliness.

Whites have the most empathy. The most civility. The most honor, innovative spirit, cooperative spirit. I could go on and on.
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>>61094596
ha. you're either JIDF, or you just admitted, on /pol/, that jews are white.
either way, i take that as a win.

>>61094783
>Whites have the most empathy. The most civility. The most honor, innovative spirit, cooperative spirit. I could go on and on.
and thus, so do Jews.
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>>61091197
Fuck off, kike.
>>61091247
>insanity
>>61091282
I explained to you, but you do not reply because you are a shill.
>>61091451
Kill yourself
>>61093263
kill yourself
>>61094596
Wrong.
>>61091979
Is that a joke? He didn't say anything.

I left the thread, how long have you been typing to the kike shills?
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>>61094558
>such a charge does not make them a different species

But that's exactly what creates different species in other animals in a natural environment.

In a synthetic environment, like animal husbandry, results are faster and more extreme, obviously. But like Dr. Harpending said in the interview I posted, sudden changes of environment, synthetic or otherwise, that don't seem immediately tangible can have a large "quick-fix" effect. Again this is the kind of thing that separates breeds or subspecies from one another. Compound that with the natural long-term adaptations, and you may very well call different races different species.
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>>61094953
Any evidence that supports your claims, then? What warrants you to call us shills when you refuse to acknowledge case studies? It just seems like you are sticking your thumbs in your ears while shouting "lalalala ur all joos!"
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>>61095284
A new species has never been created.
>>61095403
>supports my claims
Interesting. What supports your claims? I told you why you're wrong, you did not respond. You got on your proxies and said "mentally ill" for having common sense.
>case studies
Such as? I said you're a kike, because you are a kike.
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>>61094783
also the most cucks and children murdered by niggers
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>>61081298
Learn basic physics retard. Dark surfaces give off heat more quickly than light colored ones. This is why niggers always bitch about being cold in the north.
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>>61094953
>Jews control the media! They control the government! they control banks and big business! They control entertainment and culture! down with the jews! Heil Hitler! 88!

Look, fool. If your "master race" theory has any credibility, it would be against you. If less than 1% of the human race managed to gain control of everything and manipulate all human culture, that would suggest that THEY are the master race, wouldn't it?

>>61095284
If there were 2 groups of finches, and one had different cellular respiration so different a medicine that would work very well on one group barely effects the other, that would not be a significant enough change to say "one of these is no longer a finch."

>>61095518
>there is no crockoduck, all evolution is a lie!
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>>61094558
schooling has no effect on iq. 0

0

ZERO

The best iq tests, such as the air force battery, are completely nonverbal and involve shapes and patterns. you can't study for it. the results are fairly consistent from age 10 to adulthood.

the results track with "knowledge" tests such as the SAT verbal portion, which studying affects slightly, as much as a whopping SEVEN percent, wow, seven percent! because mostly the SAT is about not being an idiot. it also tracks sat math scores about 95% accurately.

niggers diverged from whites more than 250k years ago. they are a separate species.
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>>61095866
No species has been created, why can't someone just make a new species? Just once?
>THERE IS NO CROCKODUCK ALL EVOLUTION IS A LIE MENTALLY ILL

Yes. They do control all of those. No, stealing and lying, like you are doing right now, does not make you the "master race."

>>61095999
You can't get a White person out of a nigger, it's impossible. You can't get a White person out of a kike, it's impossible. Why hasn't anyone just made a new species?
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>>61095518
>What supports your claims?
This whole thread, with 50+ different ips. Is it paranoia or angst that makes you go against the facts that humans evolved slowly over thousands of years.
>Such as? I said you're a kike, because you are a kike.
Well, I'm not jewish nor a seminte nor ashkenazi, but I'm sure you know my age, weight, IQ, SAT scores and political alliance, too since you know me so well.
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>>61095866
It may very well belong to or start a different major subclade within the genus. Maybe another kind of finch, maybe not a finch.

Look at Kinglets. They're in the same genus as Finches, but there's postulation that they may indeed belong to their own subspecies because they're just different enough, genetically.
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>>61081298
>They came from Africa
No they didnt
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>>61096151
you mean from artificial breeding? the reason why is that it takes tens of thousands of years.

also species and cladistics was entrenched before we had an understanding of molecular genetics. the "species" we named and put on phylogenic trees are fairly arbitrary. some species that are separate are closer together than nigs and whites. some are classes as the same species and have diverged for much longer periods.

don't play their species game. hammer IQ, hammer violence genes, hammer brain size.
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>>61081298
He looks as white as the Rotherham gang.
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>>61096327
What ips? Which ones? Which are you talking about?
>paranoia or angst
Can't come up with anything but "mental illness" huh? Yes, you are a kike.

>>61096454
Why not with bacteria? Or something that has a very short lifespan?
>entrenched
Yeah, it wasn't always talking about "evolution."
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>>61085387
This, too. Not only is there no concrete evidence that evolution exists, but the more one reads about it the more one realizes that it's nothing more than Jewish complexity.
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>>61083183
You just have no fucking clue how heredity or genetics work. You're so lost that this isn't even going to work.

>>61084993
So what part of that disproves that homo erectus evolved in Africa?

>>61085969
What part of that says homo erectus didn't originate in Africa?
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>>61095999
the brain absorbs an amazing amount if information in infancy. including shapes and patterns.
In modern society, we teach these things to our babies and make them games. their minds develop in such a way as to recognize these things. not schooling. base cognitive development.
bush-nigger in africa does not raise their kids this way.
that is why, even with almost NO cultural emphasis on personal growth, even american niggers have 20-40 IQ points higher than bush-niggers in Africa. As children, base cognitive development happens more for them, even if they're dumped in front of a TV all day while mommy goes to score some crack.

>>61096151
>No species has been created, why can't someone just make a new species? Just once?
they have. it's called "the dog"
genetically, all breeds of dog game from the grey wolf. no coyote, no foxes, not even other wolves. ALL came ENTIRELY from grey wolfs.
If you think a chihuahua and a grey wolf are the same thing, you are delusional. Over time, new species!

>Yes. They do control all of those. No, stealing and lying, like you are doing right now, does not make you the "master race."
having the intelligence to make a plan, the patience to see it unfold, over generations, the skill to manipulate others, all marks of a superior type of people. Lying better than anyone else so people fall for your lies and you do not fall for theirs? That does, indeed, mark them as a more intelligent breed.
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>>61096794
>>61085387
What evidence for evolution do you think is invalid, or what evidence for evolution do you expect to exist that doesn't?
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>>61096151
not aimed at me, but i'll take it anyways:
>You can't get a White person out of a nigger, it's impossible. You can't get a White person out of a kike, it's impossible.
There are blacks in Africa that have the greatest genetic diversity of all people. Any trait that is genetic in any type of human can be found inside them. It's like we're all the result of bottlenecked breeding, where as they were not. They could, with the right environmental stimulus, be breed into white people. Not over one generation. Not over 5, 10, or 100. It would take a thousand, or 5,000 years, but over time they would not be what they were, and would be something new. It won't happen where they are in Africa, but if you went back in time 10,000 years, and dropped a few thousand off in an isolated, human free part of Europe, their decedents WOULD BE WHITE PEOPLE.
Just because it takes more time to happen than you have available to observe does not mean it can not happen. the fact that you limit what is scientifically possible to your limited understandings and what can happen in your brief life shows how limited YOU are, intellectually, not how right you are.
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>>61096677
Go to the bottom right of this thread's page, tell me how many posters have replied here.

>kike
There you go again, thinking calling anons names will win your argument. Maybe you're not mentally ill, just mentally challenged.
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>>61096677
what would be the point of making a new bacteria? it couldn't live outside of a lab. no one would be impressed. the alterations would only encompass loss of function or some other massive deleterious mutation. we could cut the genome of a dog in half and watch it come out as some cancerous blob. new species, I guess, but who cares?
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>>61096677
Bacteria speciation doesn't work like complex animals. They clone themselves, there is no point where a mating pair of two different animals is too distinct to create fertile offspring.

That being said, there are new species of bacteria creating by humans.

So yes, you're a moron. Everyone telling you that is correct.
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>>61097044
these idiots think there should be a missing link. They think there should be a literal half-man/half-chimpanzee found. They think that because there are no such "transition fossils," it is proof evolution is flawed.

and when you try to explain to them that evolution does not happen like that, never has, never would, and has never been suggested to act like that, and that small changes over time are what happen so expecting massive transitional species is stupid? they wave it all off as excuses, and feel smug in their "knowledge" that they saw past some "kike lie."
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>>61097432
We have a dozen or more transition species for the past 5 million years or so. I don't know what part they think is conspicuously missing. We have the entire picture.
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>>61082220
AMEN
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>>61097354
>>61096677

MRSA is a new bacteria species evolved by humans that would not exist without us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methicillin-resistant_Staphylococcus_aureus
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>>61097007
You are such an idiot. SUCH AN IDIOT.

blacks adopted by whites in infancy have the same iq scores as blacks raised by blacks.

Further, every nationality scores 20 points higher upon migrating to a 1st world country. It's called the FLYNN effect and it is related to improved nutrition and lack of disease.

BUT, there is one good sample group to prove all this: the chinese. The chinese grew up starving to DEATH, with MASSIVE POLLUTION, CANCER, NO EDUCATION, AND TONS OF DISEASE.

What's interesting is that even the chinese who grew up starving had average iqs in the mid 90s. and as soon as they move to america, or become rich in china, it goes to 109.

Meanwhile, niggers who are also starving rise from 65 in africa, to... 85 in the USA.

You are dumb. please kill yourself. And please kill any of your family who vote democrat. thanks.
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>>61085530
They are just shills fun posting mate
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>>61097528
I know. we have fossil after fossil that shows small, slow, gradual change. people like you and I know that this is proof evolution happens.
The problem is that they don't see that. Small changes they are willing to dismiss. Big changes are what they want. So you hold up a Neanderthal and a gorilla skull, and you show them "look, big changes!" but they refuse to see it. they refuse to see the billion little changes that happened slowly over millions of years. they just say "there is no half-gorilla/half-Neanderthal! thus your claim of evolution is a lie!"

(side note: i know gorilla and modern man both evolved from a common ancestor, and that gorillas are not part of our family lineage. i'm simply using them for the sake of visualization)
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>>61095746
Also on that hunter-gatherer shit, the heat makes them more noticeable to predators since they tend to use more than just their eyes to find food.
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>>61097874
I honestly think that being able to comprehend evolution is a perfect litmus test for if you're dumb or not.

Dumb people literally cannot understand the concept of evolution. It's concept in which fully understanding it requires abstract thought and it is slightly complicated.

It's at the perfect level of complexity that if someone just can't grasp it, you can safely say that they're stupid.
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>>61081298
>advantage to blend with snow.
>>61094558
I'm ashkenazi.
More than 85% europeans, the mother's line isn't even unbroken.
All the ashkenazi IQ test are within the margin of a better fed person compared to a destitute one.

PS: american's kike are retard for cutting their dick.
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>>61097785
so you are arguing that cognitive development based on what you are surrounded by as an infant has no effect, at all, on future intellect?
and you are asserting that you know my politics based on nothing more than the fact that I do not view all blacks as inherently subhuman?

There is an idiot in this thread. A few, actually. I'm not one of them.
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>>61097874
republicans don't believe the connection between man and ape, they dont' believe in evolution

democrats don't believe in the distance between whites and blacks. funny enough, they also don't believe in evolution.

show them a nigger and a white skull and they'll refuse to see the difference. hold up mitochondrial distance analysis, or violence gene tests, or brain weight measurements, they'll suggest to you that a 30 cubic cm difference is exactly the same. 1+1=3. at least republicans believe in mathematics
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>>61096943
>You're so lost that this isn't even going to work.
How convenient.
>>61096940
I gotta say shlomo, you've really got me cornered here.
>>61097007
>if you think a chihuahua and a grey wolf are the same thing, you are delusional
You could literally say that about any dog breed.

If you think a chihuahua and a great dane are the same thing, you are delusional. How does that sound? Or, do you think those are two species?

>having the intelligence to make a plan
Fuck off, kike.
>""""""""""""""""'them""""""""""""""""""
>>61097198
>no source for anything at all
>"people"
It doesn't matter. What I said is still true. Do you think White people are just "intelligent niggers"?
>>61097354
>what would be the point of a new bacteria
The point that I suggested a new bacteria for.
>>61097369
>doesn't work
Why don't you make a new species of bacteria out of them? Or, are all bacteria the same species, then? Because they aren't.
>>61097691
Was it bred, or was it genetically modified? How is it a new species?
>>61097432
What there should be is proof. Why are there no transitional fossils? If "humans" were constantly evolving, there should be constantly changing fossils in the ground, without interruptions. Everywhere. There should be as many missing links as completed species. But there is not.
>>61097798
>ad hominem
>>61097874
>fossil after fossil
Let me quote you, Shlomo.
>They think that because there are no such "transition fossils,"
Fuck off. There should be, there isn't, but there is.

>big changes
If two different things exist, one must have come from the other.
>billion little changes
You mean the ones you just said don't exist? Fuck off.
There SHOULD be a half-gorilla, because you just said there is, quote, "fossil after fossil that shows small, slow, gradual change."
Fuck off.
>>61098075
>abstract thought
If by "abstract thought" you mean imagination, sure.
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>>61081298

what the fuck are you talking about?

I've never seen this except in pic related.
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>>61098252
>Was it bred, or was it genetically modified? How is it a new species?

It evolved to be resistant to Methicillin. It is a new species of bacteria. Game over retard.
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>>61098118
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/more-proof-that-intelligence-is-85134

neurologists say cognitive function is determined by the quality and number of connections between neurons. the two qualities are almost entirely genetic, as proven by genetecists.

training does not create new neurons or improve the efficiency they communicate with.

you don't have a clue what you're talking about. but I think neurologists and genetecists do.
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>>61092620
>Implying that evolution and Christianity can't be reconciled at all

>Exodus 20:11 KJV
>11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
>For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is,
>six days
>SIX DAYS
>ALL THAT IN THEM IS

What's a day according to the Bible?
>Genesis 1:5 KJV
>5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

So when an evening and a morning pass, that is a day. The first six days were the creations, six evenings and six mornings. Man was created in a single day, he did not evolve. The Bible is very clear on the power of God, he is almighty and he wouldn't not need "evolution" to create man.

>Matthew 3:9 KJV
>And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
-John the Baptist


John the Baptist even says that God can create people from stone in an instant. Evolution is a lie straight from Satan, it is blaspheme and it is utter foolishness. We are not related to bananas as evolution says. We are not an accident, you can all feel that in your hearts. You were placed here by God.
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>>61098432
Also I forgot to mention, Exodus 20:11 is a quote from the LIVING GOD
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>>61098405
>training does not create new neurons or improve the efficiency they communicate with.

Training at anything increases the amount of connection between neurons, therefore it increases you ability to perform that task and the speed at which you do it.
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>>61087016
>What makes you think it's a different species?

Because it cannot breed.
That is the most basic requisite for a different species.

Cannot produce viable offspring. This is why donkey and a horse are different species.

They produce a mule, which has an odd number of chromosome pairs, and cannot reproduce, even with another mule.

The mule is a mutant offspring, and not viable.
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>>61097354
see, you mock my intelligence, and then ask stupid shit like "what would be the point of making new bacteria?"

to fight disease? do dissolve plastics? to clean up oil spills? specialized development of bacteria has real purposes.

>>61098143
and then here. you claim to know the scientific beliefs of 160 million Americans, and because I don't fit into your self-created bubble, I MUST be democrat (and probably a Sanders supporter!) by default.
Stupid. Lazy. Pathetic attempt to make all people and their belief conform to your preconceived notions rather than accept the idea that the way YOU would divide people ideologically into one of two groups might be flawed.

measuring skull shapes was 1930s mumbo-jumbo science that the nazis bought into. mitochondrial analysis shows ALL HUMANS ON EARTH have a common ancestor less than 200,000 years removed. The fact that one group may be more predisposed to violence based on genes does not mean that that group is some how less human or a different species all together, any more than one group being genetically more predisposed to lactose intolerance does.
Your "mathematics" are looking more and more like common core.
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>>61085934
This, desu senpai

The idea that Africans are even humans at all is one of the greatest lies ever perpetuated, one that the anthropologists all see through, but are too terrified of the consequences to call out.
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>>61098394
Why is it a new species, "retard"?
>>61098432
>"day" must be 24 hours
Even then, that Hebrew word also sometimes means an unspecified length of time.
>>61098597
>it can't breed
I'm surprised it's still alive, then.
>cannot produce viable offspring
Uh.. what? Are you saying an infertile human with a genetic disorder is a new species?
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>>61098432
So God took human form, found a quill and some ink to write down his words and then let man have it for our own interpretation, or did a bunch of random dudes who found the time write down a collection of stories that were later translated into latin/german/english/french/spanish where errors could have occurred?
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>>61098541
training forms neuron connections. it does not increase the efficiency that they operate at, e.g. the reliability, creativity, insight, speed, consitency, of such neurons. e.g. you can teach a black man math, but can he apply it properly? nor does it increase the number of total neurons, meaning intelligence limits are limited by genetics, not training.

a real example. a black man can learn to herd goats. that is training. does that make him intelligent, just because he could be trained? no. blank slatists like you used to DECRY training as restrictive, uncreative, stifling, and not demonstrative of real intelligence. you used to champion creativity and innovation. but since blacks CANT create or innovate, you now have backpedaled to claiming that rote memorization is REAL INTELLIGENCE.

you people are idiots.
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>>61098143
>I speak for all republicans and all democrats
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>>61098405
This is more or less correct.

While education and training will allow an individual to maximize what they do with their intelligence, it doesn't affect their outright intelligence.

The differences between software and hardware. An 8-core processor can do things a 4-core processor can't. A 4-core processor can run faster with applications specifically designed for it than an 8-core processor can with applications it wasn't designed for.

IQ literally measures outright cognitive capacity (hardware), not what you've learned and how to apply that (software)

Another great test is the Wonderlic test. Same thing, measure outright intellect.

The hardware is exclusively genetic.
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>>61098819
>dudes
No.
>errors
No.

He didn't take "human form," He told Moses what to write down.
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>>61098541
it doesn't increase the number of neurons. a 4-core processor is still a 4-core even though the software may be optimized.
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>>61098640
brain size studies have been conducted for a number of purposes. including cerebral palsy, autism, birthweight and health studies, etc.

so we're talking about MODERN brain size studies conducted for nonracist purposes by such RACIST organizations as the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION and DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS, and they are finding differences in size and weight, as determined by CAT SCANS.
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>>61098948
That's what Moses said.
Since when do I trust kikes?
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>>61098252
>>if you think a chihuahua and a grey wolf are the same thing, you are delusional
>You could literally say that about any dog breed.
>If you think a chihuahua and a great dane are the same thing, you are delusional. How does that sound? Or, do you think those are two species?
that was my point, fucknut. they are different species. than man made. by selective breeding. you claimed no new species has ever come into existence. You are wrong.

>no source for anything at all
>"people"
It doesn't matter. What I said is still true. Do you think White people are just "intelligent niggers"?
You want sources? now? your replies to everything anyone has said has been "fuck off kike." You have offered nothing backing up your point of view. You have no sources. So, you know what? Fuck off, kike.

>What there should be is proof. Why are there no transitional fossils? If "humans" were constantly evolving, there should be constantly changing fossils in the ground, without interruptions. Everywhere. There should be as many missing links as completed species. But there is not.
hey >>61097044!
see, this proves my point. he wants a transition of one thing, to another thing, happening in a bag way, so quickly and in so few generations, that a monstrosity "transition fossil" will appear. he has ignored every point I made for why expecting such things are retarded, while at the same time living up to ever claim I made! Amazing!
Now, to answer the fool himself: fossils are rare. very rare. any number of things can disturb or destroy a body. very few things can preserve them in any form. expecting a cache of clear fossils is a pipe dream
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>>61098948
And there is physical evidence of this because Moses wrote it down?
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>>61098758
Because it's a distinct genetic population. Anon you wanted an example of speciation in bacteria, that humans have witnessed in recent history, I just fucking gave you one, and you're still denying it.

You're fucking wrong, and you're also a fucking moron.
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>>61082080
Aboriginal you Polish retard.
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>>61082427
>that flag.

Not surprised desu, enjoy being a fedora while you can.
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>>61098758
>>it can't breed
>I'm surprised it's still alive, then.
You are purposefully and aggressively stupid. They cannot breed WITH EACH OTHER.
this means corn and wheat are two DIFFERENT SPECIES.

>>cannot produce viable offspring
>Uh.. what? Are you saying an infertile human with a genetic disorder is a new species?

That human is a genetic dead-end. It's not a species because it cannot reproduce. It's a mutant.

Also, breeding a donkey with a horse will produce a sterile mule 100% of the time.

Breeding two humans with the potential for a genetic disease that causes sterility will NOT, therefore it is a disease caused mutation, not a natural one.

You're a fucking retard who cannot into even basic logic.
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>>61098252
>>>61097798
>>ad hominem
not directed at me, but to good to ignore.
nigger, you've been casually dismissing people left and right. for you to bitch about an ad hominem, when casually dismissing some "kike" because he was a kike, and without addressing his argument, is the height of hypocrisy.

>>>61097874 (You)
>>fossil after fossil
>Let me quote you, Shlomo.
>>They think that because there are no such "transition fossils,"
>Fuck off. There should be, there isn't, but there is.
>>big changes
>If two different things exist, one must have come from the other.
>>billion little changes
>You mean the ones you just said don't exist? Fuck off.
>There SHOULD be a half-gorilla, because you just said there is, quote, "fossil after fossil that shows small, slow, gradual change."
>Fuck off.

I never said a billion little changes didn't exist. I said they don't happen all at the same time, leading to what looks like one big change. No, there is no reason, what-so-fucking-ever, to think a half man/half ape transition is out there. small change, new generations live and die, another small change, repeat ad-fucking-naseum.
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>>61086786
>nut case
Stop talking like a jew
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>>61098758
>Even then, that Hebrew word also sometimes means an unspecified length of time.
No it doesn't Genesis 1:4 mentions that Day is the light and Night is the dark, the translation is not unfaithful as you claim. You are not making the Bible your final authority, you are allowing yourself to be corrupted by false science

>>61098819
No, GOD created man and spoke to some men, who then recorded his words. Have you not read the Bible?
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>>61099397
>like a jew
Do jews not speak English?
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>>61098405
TRAINING does not create new neurons or connects. that is true. I will not argue that.
Maybe you have no idea how the mind actually develops, though?
Our neurons and connections are not preset at conception, and unchangeable. Our first 2-3 years of life our brains grow, develop, and finalize their formation. that is the specific age in which there connections happen.

if you had a tragic situation where you had twins who lived to two and died, and [A] baby was given stimulus and play, and [B] baby was locked in a bare room and given bare minimum attention, an autopsy would show significantly more brain development in kid A than in B.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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>>61099504
~8 years ago. I'm more into dystopic/futuristic science fiction, not sandpeople people adventures.
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>>61097874
You don't have ANY fossils showing gradual change. NONE, Literally an amount equal to or less than absolute zero. You are a liar and you will stand before God for your crimes
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>>61099562
In a very distinctive way, yes they do.
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>>61097007

You're wrong.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ
>The general figure for the heritability of IQ, according to an authoritative American Psychological Association report, is 0.45 for children, and rises to around 0.75 for late adolescents and adults. Recent studies suggest that family and parenting characteristics are not significant contributors to variation in IQ scores; however, poor prenatal environment, malnutrition and disease can have deleterious effects.
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>>61081298
Well, it really doesn't matter today who is first... all that REALLY matters, as in nature, is who is the strongest of them all.

Clearly, the white.
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>>61099093
>kikes
>im ashkenazi
>since when do i trust kikes
>>61099095
>chihuahuas and great danes are different species
???????????????????????????
>>61099105
Huh?
>>61099191
>evolutionists believe infertile children are new species
I asked for new species. You gave me an adapted bacteria. I said for it's not a new species. Do you also think infertile children are new species? You think so.
>>61099360
He was saying because it can't breed.. I don't even know what he was saying.
>>61099369
>dismissing without addressing his argument
Funny you say that.
>>61099360
Again, I have no idea what he was saying by saying "it can't breed."
Was he saying because it can't breed, you can't tell if it's a "new species"??

>infertile animals are new species
No.

>>61099369
>there is fossil after fossil that shows small, slow, gradual change
>why would you think there are missing links?

You did say they don't exist. You said "there are no such transition fossils."

If they aren't supposed to happen at the same time in your theory, that should mean that there should definitely be as many half-gorillas as any other stage. Obviously.

If the ground is littered with "gradual missing links" as you said, there should be a half gorilla. But there is not. In the ground, there should be half-gorillas, if there are gradual "changes."

>>61099504
He called the light time day time, and the dark time night time.

If it was talking about "24 hour" days, that would still be different from a "day time."

He called the light time "the Day," and the night time "the Night." No?

He called the light period the day[time], and a day is still a separate length of time, from what is called the Day. The Day is when it is light out. Right?
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>>61099789
You formed these extremely entrenched views without even looking up if your anti-intellectual bullshit is true? What part of human evolution is missing to you? There is no point in our history since we were monkeys where there's a missing link species.
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>>61099737
>sandpeople
Nope. Christianity is White.
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>>61099789
You don't have ANY evidence showing that the flood happened and we are descended from 8 people on a boat. NONE, literally an amount equal to or less than absolute zero.

Now, like you, I believe in God, and the story of Noah's ark. But when you attack a scientific position as being weak (mostly because you do not understand it), and then make religious pronouncements (hey, what happened to "love your neighbor, leave making judgement to God?), despite the fact that there is no evidence for our shared faith beyond shit someone wrote in a book a long time ago, you're losing the battle.
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>>61100044
It's a new species you completely retarded piece of shit. Corn is a new species created by humans, you retarded piece of shit. Please don't breed, because you would be corrupting a gene pool of modern humans.
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>>61083865
Proof that the English are the most evolved.
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>>61099677
Well, training helps with muscle memory and allows for young children to hone some skills. I agree that you can't create or strengthen neurons, but there had to be some connection between training and muscle memory when accounting for people who practice daily at sports or with drawing.
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>>61099886
>however, poor prenatal environment
in other words, environments for babies and infants that lack stimulus to promote growth.
so, no, i am not wrong.
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>>61099677
their iq would be the same. their brains would be the same size, they would both be able to learn to the same level, say, calculus. the only difference would be currently exposed information. there are only 2 hard limits to cognitive development, 1 is the language window, the other is motor skills window. that's IT.

iq is a parsimonious measure of general intelligence. one could SPEAK better than the other, one couldDO MATH better than the other, but give them both an iq test and they will perform the same.

I do this for a living. you're probably unemployed.
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>>61100087
>Jerusalem
>Aramaic
>born a jew
>white
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>>61100101
>leave making judgement to god
"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Prov. 25:2

No evidence?
>shit someone wrote in a book
>shared faith
Try again, Shlomo.
>>61100150
Huh? I was talking about chihuahuas and great Danes. He said they are two separate species.
>please don't breed
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>>61083337
fuck you /pol/

I don't want to be a racist but you make it so hard.
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>>61100302
Greece was White, now it is not. Italy was White, now it is not. Egypt, Persia, Babylonia used to be White. Palestine was White as well.
>aramaic
0 proof
>born a jew
0 proof

Egyptian depictions of the Israelites showed them with red, blond, or sometimes black hair, and then often blue eyes (Canaan And Canaanite in Ancient Egypt, by Alessandra Nibbi, 1989, UK). They were described as appearing no different from Greeks (Josephus' Antiquities 12.5.1), and King David was described as ruddy (1 Sam. 16:12). Esau, the grandson of Abraham, and the brother of Jacob, the progenitor of the Israelites had red hair (Genesis 25:25).
(Pictured: Residents of Galilee from the time of Christ from Mosaic found in Sepphoris)

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Rev. 3:9

"Ought ye not to know that the Lord God of Israel gave the kingdom over Israel to David for ever, even to him and to his sons by a covenant of salt?" 2 Chron. 13:5

"And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of." Gen. 35:11

"This day will I begin to put the dread of thee and the fear of thee upon the nations that are under the whole heaven, who shall hear report of thee," Deut 2:25

“My beloved is white and ruddy, chosen out of thousands. His head is as the finest gold: his locks as branches of palm trees, black as a raven.” Song of Songs 5:10-11

“Her Nazarites were whiter than snow, purer than milk, more ruddy than the old ivory, fairer than the sapphire.” Lamentations 4:7
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>>61081298
leave this retards thread, come to fat thread >>61094802
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>>61100232
prenatal environment means in the womb, you nigger. no, that baby einstein shit you put on her belly is bullshit.

prenatal means nutrition, not drinking and doing drugs, and pollution, you fucking nigger.
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>>61081298
>They came from Africa, therefore they would be Negros
Are you implying sub-saharan Africans haven't evolved?
That's pretty racist, no?
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>>61100304
Keep the fuck up. I know it's hard for your undeveloped brain but jesus christ.

MRSA is a new species of bacteria that evolved and was witnessed by biology. Corn was evolved from a wheat like plant by the natives. You are a fucking useless waste of skin with amazingly low cognitive ability. Don't pollute the gene pool by breeding.
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>>61100302

He wasn't born a Jew. The King James Bible translated Judean as "Jew." He was from Judea. This is a poor translation. Ancient Israelites were completely different from modern Jews.
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>>61100302
Dead sea scrolls apocryphal description of Sarah (Abraham's wife):

"“Her skin was pure white;
'She had long lovely hair;
Her limbs were smooth and rounded (her thighs were shapely)
'She had slender legs and small feet;
'Her hand were slim and long and so were her fingers.”

Apocryphal description of Noah, from the book of Enoch, chapter 106:

"2. And his body was white as snow and red as the blooming of a rose, and the hair of his head †and his long locks were white as wool, and his eyes beautiful†. And when he opened his eyes, he lighted up the whole house like the sun, and the whole house was very bright. 3. And thereupon he arose in the hands of the midwife, opened his mouth, and †conversed with† the Lord of righteousness. 4. And his father Lamech was afraid of him and fled, and came to his father Methuselah. 5. And he said unto him: 'I have begotten a strange son, diverse from and unlike man, and resembling the sons of the God of heaven; and his nature is different and he is not like us, and his eyes are as the rays of the sun, and his countenance is glorious."

Adam's name in Hebrew means "to show blood in the face, i.e to flush, to turn rosy." (Strong's H120, H119)

Jacob's father in law's name, "Laban," means "white." (Strong's H3837)

Jews do not build kingdoms.

The Gospels were brought only to Israelites (John 14:15, Matt. 15:14, Matt. 10:5-6, John 20:21). The Galatians, the Phillipians, and the Collosians were all Greek (at that time, White) peoples Paul wrote/preached to.

The word "Jew" in the Old Testament means "Judahite," (Strong's H3064) i.e., a descendant of Judah (a White man). In the New Testament, it means "Judean," (Strong's G2453) i.e, a person from Judea.

>>61100386
???

The picture is here: >>61088532

>>61100478
Why is it a new species, kike?
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>>61099251
Aboriginals aren't African, Britonfriend
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>>61100044
>>chihuahuas and great danes are different species
>???????????????????????????

I don't see what is hard to get. They are different. They are breed to be different. And they were breed from wolves, which are different.

>dismissing without addressing his argument
>Funny you say that.
Asshole, I've actually been responding to you and countering your arguments. so, no, it is not funny for me to say that, as if i'm some hypocrite. It is funny you bitch about ad hominems while laying down every logical fallacy that you can possible find excuse to use

>You did say they don't exist. You said "there are no such transition fossils."

in the sense of a half man/half gorilla hybrid, they don't exist. which, as you've proven, is what you are looking for.

>If they aren't supposed to happen at the same time in your theory, that should mean that there should definitely be as many half-gorillas as any other stage. Obviously.

Only if you assume that stage ever happened. If ape features vanish as human features appear, there would be no transition. You want an "ape man"? Fine. Australopithecine. Many ape-like features, many human features. past that, once you get into the homo genus, ape features melt away.

>If the ground is littered with "gradual missing links" as you said,

cutting you off there. I said no such thing. In fact, what I did say is that fossilization is very rare and very unlikely to happen, so we are lucky to have what we have, and should consider it a treasure trove, rather than bitch it isn't extensive enough
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>>61100554
The corn because it can no longer breed with its original genetic population. It has undergone speciation, it is a new species. As I originally described to you, speciation doesn't work in bacteria like it does with species with sexual reproduction. A fundamental biological difference and function makes a different species. MRSA is a species that we evolved into existence.

That's two species, you fucking lose. You honestly should cut off the dysfunctional testicles you have. Your DNA is shit.
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>>61100469
whats interesting is that denialists point out that the majority of the white genome is contained within the black genome, therefore we're all the same

but when you point out that yes, most of it is contained, so let's look at what what eliminated, and what is new

eliminated:
violence genes such as maoi
occipital ridge for hindered brain development
early walking genes, resulting in delayed childbirth and puberty in whites and asian

new:
religous genes
math genes and repeats of existing brain growth genes

when you point that out, and that it's all documented, you get called racist

the fact of the matter is that liberals are idiots with shallow knowledge pools. they will NEVER be as smart as you, so when you bring up evidence they don't understand, they will think you are the stupid one hahaha
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>>61084167
>By the way, how come nobody's ever just "proven" the theory of "evolution" by demonstrating it in a lab?

You know evolution takes hundreds of millions of years to even be slightly noticable, right?
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>>61100779
you know speciation only takes a few tens of thousands of years, right?

we turned from horseshoe crabs to mammal in hundreds of millions
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>>61100087
this level of denial is painful.
Jesus was born to a semetic, middle eastern family who traced their lineage back to king david, also living in that region. If a religion is true, it holds no one race it belongs to, because it applies to all people, but for the sake of argument, Christianity is a new sect of a religion that was some 3,000 years old when Christ was born, and both were thought up by, and held by, brown people. not blacks/negroes/niggers, but certainly not "white" people as you would define it.
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>>61100554
Here's your reply:

Ezekiel 23:20
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
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>>61100554

Good post. I'll add that Egyptian depictions of Israelites and Syrians showed them with red or blonde hair.
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>>61100208
I may have been hasty when I said I agreed that training does not create new connections. however, i think it more so strengthens existing connections, which is easier to do, than forge new ones.
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>>61100044
That's the deifference between someone who will fight for his country, France, and a globalist kike.
Or did you forgot what kike means? Where it came from?
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>>61100291
no, it would not. one would have deep brain development, one would have an almost smooth brain. little development, few wrinkles. you need stimulus to grow. why do you think infants pick up language, but a 15 year old simply can not, in the same way, and must work hard to slowly learn it? because as infants our brains are developing, and taking in, and learning to process, the world around us. nothing to process, means no development.

And unemployment is due to a severe bowel disease.
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>>61100523
Then what was he? Christianity emerged after his death as his followers came up and decided to follow his words.

>>61100087
Kek.
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>>61081298
The modern negro was genetically engineered by advanced whites to be a beast of burden. Modern whites were created by the same people to have dominion over them. Somehow that has gone terribly wrong. I assume they will return to correct the problem at some point.
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>>61081298
Evolution is a lie
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>>61100921
Mediterranean.

Also it seems very likely Judaism is itself a dervatobe of monotheistic heresy created by Akenaten.
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>>61081298
That guy looks Argentinian tbqh
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>>61101302
I just want to learn how to fly man. And impregnate women using telepathy so that I can literally mindfuck them.
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>>61100304
>>>61100101 (You)
>>leave making judgement to god
>"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Prov. 25:2
when did i say "do not look for answers"?
I said it is unChristian to pass absolute moral judgement. The other person suggested God would damn me for my belief in evolution. My point was that, whether God would or would not is in God's hands, and neither his concern, nor his place, to pass judgement on.

>No evidence?
>>shit someone wrote in a book
>>shared faith
>Try again, Shlomo.
Note: you provided no evidence, despite mocking the fact that I pointed out there is no evidence.
and that fact that i was flippant about the source of the Bible does not mean you have any right to dismiss my claims to faith.
Lastly, I find the jew slur amusing. What do you think Jesus was, the messenger of Odin, or the JEWISH messiah?

>>>61100150
>Huh? I was talking about chihuahuas and great Danes. He said they are two separate species.
>>please don't breed
Please don't move goal posts. You said no new breed has ever come into existence. I showed how they indeed have, with dogs being separate from wolves, and being breed selectively into existence.
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>>61101563
Your last post is to the wrong dudebro
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>>61101252
did you get your knowledge from a 1930s textbook?

brain folds are entirely genetic and occur in utero you fucking idiot

I hope we get to execute idiots like you who push their ignorance onto others.

don't talk about shit you have no clue about. jesus christ
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>>61101261

It's unclear. He could have been Mediterranean or white. The Turin Shroud is hardly concrete proof of anything. There are mountains of evidence to suggest that ancient Israelites were a range of ethnicities - some looked white with fair hair and skin (Joseph, Noah, according to apocrypha & Egyptian depictions of Israelites), and some were mixed with other tribes who probably had a Levantine appearance. A mixture of white and Levantine would produce something that looks like modern Meditteranean people.
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>>61084167
>racist who doesn't believe in evolution

pls
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>>61100554
>Dead sea scrolls apocryphal description of Sarah (Abraham's wife)
let's interrupt right there to point out the word "apocryphal"

ok, moving on? In most cultures that were not congo-nigger-dark, and were more brown-ish, darker skin tone implied someone who labored all day in the sun, and lighter skin tone was celebrated as a sign of nobility, royalty, and beauty. fine, light skin, due to being out of the sun. not a laborer. get it? middle easterners, mayans and aztecs, the chinese and japanese, all people who ARE NOT WHITE, used the phrase "pure white skin" to emphasize the nobility and implied beauty of people, usually women. it doesn't mean she's fucking Caucasian.
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>>61101688
it's highly likely that the early med peoples were essentially mediterranean. molecular dna analysis is slowly bearing this out with the most conclusive evidence

pushes into the subcontinent from migrating warlike herders (modern semitics) slowly began to displace the coastal people, as well as displacing people from the iranian and caucasus regions. the migration was the beginning of the age of cavalry which eventually led to islam and even stronger expansions, reaching north africa, india, etc, which now forms the major components of dna in all regions via introgression
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>>61101688
I meant religion, not ethnicity.
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>>61100713
No, I mean a genuine new species. Dog breeds are obviously not dog species. No, I mean the """"""""""""'slow, gradual"""""""""""""" missing links you're talking about literally do not exist.
>there would be no transition
What happened to """"""""""""""""""""""""slow, gradual""""""""""""""""""' transitions all over?

There should be AS MANY missing links in the ground as literally, any complete species, if that was true! There should be as many missing links at any stage in between "slow, gradual" "evolution" as any complete species. But there isn't.

So, you mean you don't have proof? By the way, here is what you said:

>I know. we have fossil after fossil that shows small, slow, gradual change. people like you and I know that this is proof evolution happens.
Explain, kike.

>>61101143
>kike
>france
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""his country""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""'

>>61101003
I said that. I had two posts.

>>61100950
(you)

>>61100921
>level of denial
What the fuck are you talking about, kike? Care to explain literally any citation I gave, shlomo kike faggot?

IT DOES hold one race it belongs to. Especially, not you. Fuck off.

>>61100713
>fossilization is very rare
Want to know how I know you're a kike, kike? Because you're a damned liar. I quoted you, and you said the exact opposite. So, which is it?

>what I did say is that fossilization is very rare
>I know. we have fossil after fossil that shows small, slow, gradual change. people like you and I know that this is proof evolution happens.
Go fuck yourself.

>>61100732
Is there a citation for corn coming from wheat?

What is the definition of a new species in bacteria, then?
>a fundamental biological difference
No, being infertile does not make you a new species. Being a different dog breed, does not make a dog a new species.
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>>61101959
Guess where the 80% european lineage is from, low iq burger...
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>>61101373
>Mediterranean.
which, especially those in the north africa/middle east region, tended to be browner.
I'm not talking DARK. I'm not talking dark. I'm certainly not saying African or black. I'm just pointing out that they were not what is traditionally thought of as "white"

as for the "monotheistic heresy created by Akenaten"?
Judaism traces its history back to before that period, or at least it was already established before they entered Egypt and would be exposed to that sect
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>>61100732
Who is to say a resistance makes something a new species?

>>61100779
>even slightly noticeable
Fuck off, shlomo.
>>61101688
>unclear
Read my post. Please. Please read my two posts above.
>>61101907
Read my posts.

>>61100385 >>61100554

>>61101563
Is moral judgement the same as scientific judgement?

>>61101653
>dudebro

>>61101826
>"racist" who does believe in "evolution"
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>>61102085
>80%
>european
Even if that were true, you are still a kike.
>>61102139
Read my posts, you are wrong.
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>>61100232
In other word, the mother's genetics, doofus.
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>>61101653
it is, kind of. it was a reply to the same guy, who was responding to something you said. it looks like i was replying that way to you, and i apologize, but i was going after him for how he replied to you, and not going after you. sorry about that.
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>>61101930

He was a Christian, meaning one who believes that Jesus is the son of God, sent to redeem all believers, and the messiah of the Old Testament followers of Yahweh. You can't say that he was the Jewish messiah - this is obfuscation due to the misuse of the word Jew in the King James Bible. Jews today reject Jesus as the messiah. It's a fundamental tenant of Talmudism. So to say Jesus was a Jew makes no sense. The important thing to remember is that Talmudism is the essence of Judaism. The Old Testament Hebrews we read about did not rely on the Babylonian Talmud for scriptural exegesis.
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This thread gave me literal cancer. This place is hopeless
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>>61102145
>Build a boat.
>One part is broken, replace it
>eventually, at some point or another, all parts have damage and need to he replaced, thus you do that and move all parts off with new parts
>Is it a new boat?
This isn't a trick, I just want to get your idea on the matter.
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>>61102085
hey dude. I'm someone else. I don't have anything against jews. But can you please stop fucking our countries up?

the world belongs to high iq peoples. I don't care about whether whites, or chinese, or whoever gets the ME. As long as violent muslims are dead.

So please get your people to stop. Thanks.
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>>61102433
Was he born a fucking Christian?
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>>61102490
you are both stupid. you're arguing over semantics as if genetic and molecular reality is confined to your petty understanding and semantic groupings of reality.

species is just a word. the only thing that is real are genes and genetic distance.

are niggers a different species? I don't care. their genetics make them violent and a threat to all civilization. Discuss that you children.
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>>61102490
It's made of completely new material. It would need to become a new boat at an arbitrary point. If you replaced your computer parts with new parts, and then a new case after, it would quite obviously be the same computer.

This is not a good example to draw a conclusion off of.

>>61102674
What are you talking about?
>petty understanding
Wouldn't you need to understand genetics to believe our understanding is "petty"?
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>>61102494
That's going to be a problem then. We have no control on our "elites", nor any social means to limit the shit they do.
Besides I don't identify as jewish nor follow any jewish tradition.
I just si happen to have a jewish mother whose family didn't immigrate in the last century.
Nah, you'd need to murder bhl and attali the very same day to calm them down.
For a minute.
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>>61099737
I wouldn't be surprised science fiction got it's birth from the likes of H.G. Wells and Jules Verne two well know occultists and H.G. was a member of the royal society in the UK.

The Bible is profitable to everlasting life, if you value vanity above gold then so be it. I can only honestly tell you that you are throwing your life away for falsehoods that cannot save you in the day of death.
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>>61101959
I'm not even going to reply to most of this. it is written in no coherent way. it looks like a 7 year old who just discovered the word "kike" is raging at his keyboard.

I will address this, though:
referring to Christianity >IT DOES hold one race it belongs to. Especially, not you. Fuck off.

now, let's pretend for a moment that makes sense. that he MEANT to say that it does apply to just one race, and that I am not a part of that, and should fuck off.

look, you dumb motherfucker. Christ himself said his message was for all people. That means it is a universal religion, that applies to all creation, and thus all people, as opposed to tribal religions about a specific god that watched over a specific group of people. By saying that Christ's very message is for a select few, you are spitting in the face of Christ and calling him a liar.

Now, if you are basing the idea that it does belong to particular groups of people on anything remotely found in the faith, you must be suggesting that it belongs to the Jews, God's chosen. So, for one thing, I'd point out that, while they are chosen, they are not alone in those God accepts, as Jesus showed when he preached to the gentiles. And, what is more, even if that thought process was true and only Jews had any claim to God and thus only they could be saved, your comment that I am, especially, damned falls apart.
The ONLY FUCKING THING you have been right about is calling me Kike. I am, through my father's blood, Jewish.
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>>61102880
>read this book, after you die you don't just end up 6ft under or in an urn
K
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>>61102145
>Is moral judgement the same as scientific judgement?
no, which is why i pointed out that what you said was fucking stupid.
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>>61102267
>Read my posts, you are wrong.
you mean your "dead sea scroll" description of Sarah? Yeah, debunked that already. Maybe you should read replies.
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>>61100069
It's not, no need to waste time

>>61100101
It's true, so there is plenty of evidence, levels of sediment all around the world, they even found the "fossilized" boat.

It's not a "scientific" position, it is a false position, finding ape skulls and saying they are human skulls is a lie, just like piltdown man, which was scientific fact for 60 years, until being uncovered as the fraud it is.

There is evidence for my faith, and without my faith I would have never found such evidence, it was only because I humbled myself that God directed me towards it. You have corrupted yourself with false science and God rewards those with a lack of faith with a lack of truth. You did not believe or trust in what is true, what do you have left but a lie?
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>>61102800
>This is not a good example to draw a conclusion off of.
Yeah, but it's interesting to think about.
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>>61102800
Well then maybe I do.

Why are you arguing over definitions? That's dumb. Species is a pre-genetic concept. It isn't terribly useful anymore.

If you believe it is, go ahead and pay 100k for a phd in cladistics or phylogeny.

Oh wait, you can't because they are useless today.

>>61102871
you say you don't control your elites, but your elites are created by your values. you empower them

consider for a moment that white values would basically wipe lesser races off the map if there weren't interference from minority interest groups
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>>61100950
So the Bible is not allowed to make metaphors about Israel and Judah? That is like saying God calling Israel a whore multiple time in the Bible is what makes the Bible untrue, which it doesn't.
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>>61102994
No, He didn't. Fuck off, kike. I wonder how you're going to explain this, oh wait, you won't.

"But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." John 14:15

"But He answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matt. 15:14

"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matt. 10:5-6

"Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you." John 20:21

You kikes are not God's chosen.

>The ONLY FUCKING THING you have been right about is calling me Kike. I am, through my father's blood, Jewish.

I'm done here.

>>61103186
By the way, my guess is a liberal would say it is a new boat, a conservative would say it's not.

>>61103214
>arguing over definitions
Because, I said no new species has ever been created.
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>>61103013
We have a body and we have a soul. This simply concept evades you. YOU WILL DIE, your body is guaranteed to die and you honestly believe that nothing will happen after it. What a pathetic and untrue belief, God will judge you for your entire life, you can't escape justice that easily
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>>61103379
>never been created
which is a stupid and pointless thing to say in the first place

you gonna tell me "look ma, I'm peeing!" when you pull down your trousers and go to the restroom?

>>61103282
dude. I like christianity. it's cool. I like christians more than atheists. you people have values, build all of the wealth in the west, and protect our society.

but since we're in private, you and me, please keep religious shit out of science. for the love of god.
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>>61103167
silt layers are not consistent, are not dated to the same period, and do not exist in some places. God would never allow the boat to be found, for the same reason the ark of the covenant was lost and the same reason Jesus denied himself a family: because people would worship Jesus's decedents, and they would worship supposedly holy artifacts. If the Ark, or the... uh, Ark, were ever found? Both would become the largest centers of idol worship in the world, which would be amazing offensive to God, as both are proof of his power, and the praise should go to him.

As for the "corruption" of science? God made a universe. All order and natural law that exist, do so because that is how he chose to order things. Everything our science discovers, about the history of the universe, about medicine, about evolution, shows the complexity of God's design. It does not counter or refute God's design. The idea that science and faith are antithetical to one another is false, offensive, and frankly, something the religious are most responsible for. The reason scientists have abandoned faith is more because they are sick of being demonized for looking for an answer beyond "God said so," and choose the right to think for themselves over dogma. If people like you did not force out those of us who choose to use our God given intellect to study the world as God made it, the rift between science and faith would not exist.
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>>61103589
What?? I said that as in, why doesn't someone just "make" a new species?
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>>61103384
>justice
For choosing my own fate? I can become a doctor and save lives, rescue kittens from trees and raise a family without leading astray of my morals, but still end up in hellfire because I didn't donate 10 percent of my income to the Church? How about you fuck of and die, then send me a postcard from the pearly gates?
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>>61103379
>The house of Israel are the only ones God will save
>Kikes are not God's chosen

holy fuck. you fail to comprehend Christ's message, AND fail to understand that the house of Israel (Jews) and Kikes (ethnic slur for Jews) are the same fucking thing!
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