>socialism is bad >never explains why How typical

You already know why theft is bad. Why do you pretend otherwise?

>>61072159
trust russians

>>61072159
Come visit the post communist countries.

>>61072159
>socialism is bad
>constantly explain why
>leftist ignore explanations and continue to post threads like this

>>61072159
DONT FUXKINNG POST AZN GIRLS YOU SWEDISH KEK FAGGOT. DONT YOU HAVE A SOMALI BULL TO PREP??? REEE

I also suggest becoming familiar with basics of economics and history :)))))))

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>>61072159

>>61072193
>expropriation of surplus-value isn't theft
Watch me, economics! :DDD

>>61072246
Well maymayed friend

>>61072226
/thread

>>61072159
Read Socialism by Mises

there is no debate, just two sides with information to spread

the jews own all the cameras though

>>61072343
Greece talking about economics, what a sight.

>>61072343
Pay debnts

>>61072509
>bailing out investors with taxpayer money isn't theft
Watch me do American economics:DD

>>61072159
Swede all you have to do is upon your eyes. Your government is literally covering up Muslim attacks because they are so Cultural Marxist. When a white guy kills a Muslim everyone cries and calls it a terrorist attack and gives flowers and shit. When a white guy dies nobody bats an eye. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/26/white-guy-killed-sweden-terrorism-eritrean-migrant-wasnt/

>>61072159

Because it leads to communism?

DUH

>>61072343

Why even bother? Today's conservatives use the same arguments monarchists do while being too dumb to see the parallels. The right-wing in America today is completely convinced that they're leftists.

>>61072509
>>61072520
Pottery

>>61072159
Damn, Asian girl with big tits, that's my thing. Who is she? Looks Korean.

Socialism is bad, look at Sweden.

>>61072239
This.

Very much this.

Over and over again this.

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>>61072159

>Sweden
>in charge of political ideologies

AYY

>>61072619
she is korean. i wonder why u dont see chinese girls like this, probably too poor or some shit

>>61072591
Exactly the same arguments, even to the point where they reiterate the concept of the Devine Order that shouldn't be disrupted, otherwise chaos awaits us.. Well the King's head fell and instead of chaos things got better. I wonder if it could be the same thing now..

>>61072643
i need help to understand how socialism leads to no toilet paper

>>61072565
>bailing out investors with taxpayer money isn't socialism

>>61072565
Here's your (you), keep on using emoticons at the end of your shitposts to give the impression you know what you're talking about though

>>61072766
>Capitalism isn't capitalism
:DD

>>61072798
>capitalism is using tax money

>>61072755
It is hard to plan how much toilet paper to buy for a whole country.

>>61072643

If you think that's bad, you should've seen places like Cuba, Central Asia, and China before socialist states were established. Hell, even with shitty command economies they managed to modernize rapidly and experience a few decades of growth, if only they had proper central planning maybe the SU could've survived the catastrophe that was the 80's.

>>61072755

It wrecks the economy, shuts down production/manufacturing and makes the country too poor to import the goods it needs. In this particular case - toilet paper.

>>61072343
I love you greece, but economics isn't your strong point.

>>61072159
Go take a stroll through Malmo faget

>>61072868
>>61072822
so i understand in capitalism that there are companies who compete and produce in the toilet paper market, but how would this work in a communist/socialist market

>>61072822
You can use market calculations all the same. With the Internet and real-time information it's not so tough.

>>61072692
Do you know her name? For research purposes.

>>61072159
Qt3.14

>>61073049
How can they use market calculations without a market?

>>61073031

>but how would this work in a communist/socialist market

You'd have only one government-owned company that produces toilet paper, and when that one company goes under because of shit decisions made by retarded politicians, you end up having to wipe your ass with leaves or hands.

>>61072820
By definition, man. No joke.

>>61073071
choi seul gi

right click, search with google u fag

>>61073151
How can there be no market? It's just an internal market. People always want stuff.

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>>61072159
>taking from one
>to give to another
>who did nothing to earn it

Sorry swedcuck, subsidizing your pickled fish addiction should not be anyone's responsibility but your own.

A healthy mix of the two is always best.

>>61073318
So you are not in favor of medicare?

>>61072868
Then why was Yugo industry better than Serbian?

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>>61072159
>>never explains why
this is you signalling that you've never bothered to find a book or article that explains why, and that when people present them to you, you don't fucking read them.

>>61073372
no

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>>61072159

>>61073245
Yes but since production is controlled by the state and not by market demands it does not work the way you think it will. Market demand can change rapidly and the state is slow and useless.

You wanting toilet paper does not magically make it come forward, someone must produce it.

The idea of socialist economics is contradictory to human nature, which is why it can not work outside a community bigger than a small village

>>61072159

Well, this shit again. No one who makes an argument for socialism has ever been able to tell me what, in their words, socialism is.

>>61073031
>>61073049
prices are abolished in a socialist system.

there is no stock market, it is the first thing to go.

there are only black markets, which only have goods to trade if they are stolen from the producers (they can have post-handout goods of course but this is not feasible for much of the actual trade). i don't think i have to tell you that in a system with no prices, which calculates ahead of time how much of X the entire nation will need for a year, what stealing from producers means for everyone.

>>61073491
Even if companies aren't privately owned they still can compete. The Soviets run their factories against one another.

>>61073586
>prices are abolished in a socialist system
Definetely not.
>there is no stock market
There is no need for it.

>>61073332
no

>>61073245
>People always want stuff.
if this is the totality of your argument, then it is proof of anarchy.

people always want stuff, so you don't need government to produce security. people want it, that means police and military will simply arise on the market, and everything will be good!

>>61073681
>doesn't know what the USSR actually was
lol.

>>61072159
>mass rapes etc
>inferiors, degradation
>explain pls

>>61073332
It's funny because there are almost no healthy mixes

>>61073609
TOP KEK

>>61072343
Labor theory of value is objectively wrong.

>>61073739
I know, and there were prices and wages.

>>61073609
Compete about who can satisfy the governments demand because that is the only thing that is needed. If they are told to just produce a certain amount are they then allowed to make more without the government saying so?

>>61072343
here we have an example why socialism is bad

>>61073846
The prices were all set and controlled by government so the main function of prices was lost.

>>61073401
Serbia and the rest of the Yugoslavs bombed themselves to shit fighting for sovereignty after it fell apart.

>>61072193

>socialism for corporate interests is good!
>socialism for a nation's citizens is bad!

kill yourself

>>61074012
That was a problem that can be fixed by setting an arbitrary value to the price and letting supply and demand to further define it.

>>61074063
Neither is good and you're quoting nobody except your retarded perception that has literally no bearing on reality

>>61073154
>one government owned company
thats Communism not socialism, a socialist would just make the CEO pay more tax and then spend that tax on the poor

>>61072207
>russians
not
>jews
Ivan, you didn't drink enough today.

>>61072226
>>61072239

/thread

>>61074165
So they fixed it with the market? Great socialism you have there

>>61074256

i know you're a special kind of stupid, but we live in a democratic socialist society RIGHT NOW (i'm not wealthy but 35%+ of my paycheck goes to taxes). the question is where that money goes. large multinational businesses pay less taxes than a person and many of them are heavily subsidized by the government. if you want to talk about theft, we are currently socializing big business and not the people. so at the very least, you should be advocating for stripping BOTH, not just vehemently being against "socialism" as a generic word like a tribal mouthbreather.

and most hilariously, your ginger godking trump took hundreds of millions of dollars in public money as a bailout in the early 90s. tell me more about socialism faggot.

>>61072159
Don't ever use K-Pop girls to shitpost again, Abdul.

>>61074539
Mate you just said what was wrong with it. You assume I'm for bailing out big businesses, when literally nobody wants that except the crony capitalists you humongous buffoon

Once again, you are referring to nothing except your retarded perception that has absolutely no basis in reality, you giant cuck

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>This thread
>Not realizing that the USA and Europe are all hybrid nations with different combinations of socialism and capitalism

>>61072159
Because socialism is a lie.

Socialism tries to get you to believe that they are creating a classless society, where all people are equal.
But that's not happening, and every socialistic country in the world has shown this to you.

Capitalism:

>property owner (businessmen,landowners etc.)
>worker

Socialism:

>workers (Former property owners and workers are now workers)
>property owners (Political elite)

So AGAIN we have a class of people that has nothing, and a small class of people who has everything.

You achieved nothing, and you fucked your country up doing that.

>>61072565
>greece complaining about taxpayer bailout
You really have no self-awareness at all, do you?

>>61072239
/Thread

>>61072159

>multiculturalism and immigration is good
>destroys europe

>>61072343

Wow, you people really are that stupid.

You do know that the money that "wealthy" people have doesn't disappear? You do know they pay the vast majority of taxes? You do know they give the vast majority of charitable donations? Any money that is hidden is because the government constantly tries to take more even though most very wealthy people employ everyone.

Please turn your brain on for once.

>>61074929
having government owned industry isnt socialism its communism. the only countrys in the world that have been "fucked up" by socialism are the ones who did it though a one party state so it was a lack of democracy and not socialism that spoilt things for them

Socialism elevates the worst and drags down the best.

We've moved from feudalism, where someone better than you took your money, to populism, where someone worse than you takes your money.

>>61075924
>feudalism, where someone better than you took your money
it was birthright that determinant wealth back then not ability

>>61076132
At the time, what other merit existed? Your lord was better-educated, was taller and stronger due to better nutrition and constant training, could win in a fight against any of the peasants, lived in much better conditions, and was in every aspect superior.

The ability to earn lots of money via rent-seeking, which is the contemporary determinant of wealth, is scarcely better.

>>61072159
>never explains why
because taxes are theft, and makes escape from middle class more difficult

>>61076846
>taxes are theft

So that means you're an anarchist. You see any government as illegitimate since they all need taxes, which are illegal in your mind. Good thing you're not in charge.

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>>61072159

You will never be able to counter the arguments against socialism laid out in this book.

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

>>61077255
I think the best of capitalism, socialism and democracy can be harnessed in social democracy for the ideal form of government.

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>>61072721
>Better
Tfw you believe whig historiogtaphy

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>>61072343
>>61072565
>>61072721
>>61072798
>>61073049
>>61073161
>>61073245
>>61073401
>>61073609
>>61073681
>>61073846
>>61074165

its always this greek antifa shill.

fuck off to /leftypol/ with your no-sense bullshit.

seriously dude, stop commenting. just read, listen, and ask questions for a little while.

I know youre the same poster who is always saying stupid shit like:

>hurrrr if aryans were the superior race, why did they need welfare hurrrr durrrrr
in NatSoc threads.

Stop spreading misinformation.

Commies like you belong on a cross.

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>>61072343

Get out of my country you filthy marxist kike rat

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>>61077880

I have argued with him before. He is not even an actual Greek he has immigrant background.

>>61077880

>posts meme of "muh badass drinking commie tears" to cover the fact he's triggered

>>61072159
>never explains why

Socialism stands on the pillars created by tax payers, shouldering the burden of the many to fund programs. However, when times are tough like in war or economy hardships, this model is unsustainable, and only hurts the economy. Crippling recovery, and allowances needed for restructuring.

It's also a model that is dependent on a young citizenry to work their whole lives to fund the system. It's a balanced act that is constantly in danger of toppling over.

>>61077880
I honestly don't understand the idea of using a Vietnam War soldier to say anything with confidence against an adversary. We lost the Vietnam War. We had specific war aims, and we failed at achieving all of them while losing 50,000 men.

>>61078157
The New Deal wasn't used in a time of economic hardship? The New Deal would be called straight socialism today.

As someone who has lived in a country that followed socialist policies (never became truly socialist though), which ultimately ruined it, I can explain why I dislike socialism.

First of all it hurts the private sector. Private enterprises can't flourish as they should because of bureaucracy and increased taxation. For this reason, innovation isn't as prominent since actually maintaining a business is a pretty difficult task.
Socialism increases public spending and thus, debt. It's not sustainable.
Corruption and bad productivity are also very common is socialist countries. State officials care only about votes, thus they just hire people who voted for them. In the private industry profit is the driving force and people have to be competitive in order to survive in the scene. In socialism you don't have to be competitive, and since your job is secured whether you work hard or not, productivity is less.
We have tons of public sector workers here who don't work at all and get huge salaries.

I don't disagree with all socialist policies, but socialist "economics" are a joke.

>>61072343
>tax isn't theft
back to koumoundorou

>>61072159
Can /pol/ work to get rid of this b8. I'm tired of people making retarded statements that get a bunch of replies. If you want to debate socialism, /pol/ is more than willing to but you dont open a discussion by making an ass of yourself

>>61078319
>The New Deal would be called straight socialism today.

The New Deal was a set government program, socialism is a way of governing. I know you're american too but COME ON, it's 2016.

>>61077954
aren't you that degenerate furry queer that loves capitalist eu cock up your ass?

>>61078473
FDR was more socialist than Bernie Sanders. If you guys are going to refer to Sanders as a socialist and even a communist, I'm going to refer to him as a socialist too.

>>61078473

Can you explain why Europe is socialist and the USA is not supposedly?

>>61078642
>Can you explain why Europe is socialist and the USA is not

I can say FUCK NIGGERS, and not get arrested for it. Can you say the same?

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>>61078572

Don't forget Eisenhower, le last true conservative President!

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>>61072159
>lives in Sweden
>needs why socialism is bad explained to him

how typical

>>61078717

>new deal was a set government program, socialism is a way of governing

>individual law
>way of governing

BTFO by your own logic

>>61078717
Are you literally fucking retarded?

>>61078781
The Nordic model is essentially the most successful system on Earth, the other 4 nations are doing incredibly well.

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>>61078540

I am a facsist fuck off leftcuck kike faggot

>>61078572
>FDR was more socialist than Bernie Sanders.

Don't speak for another man, when he is long dead. FDR wasn't a socialist, he enacted programs to help the people, that isn't socialist at all. This country is rife with programs aimed at helping people, that doesn't mean we are socialist or that they were voted on by socialist people.

Being socialist, is being pro communism and communism is about collecting wealth, and distributing to the populating as the government sees fit. A lot of you kids here confuse things for one extreme or the other.

>>61072159
Beurocracy which socialism is entirely based on is inheritly more inefficient than the private sector(aka competitive capitalism) because they have no incentive to be efficient. If they save money their budget gets cut.

>>61072159
>come to Hungary, cunt

I thought so

>sent from my iPad

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>>61078642
Americans dont get taxed up the ass like eu countries' citizens do.

Sure there are some social programs but Americans will not allow any more socialist inversion, and dependability on the state. It is against our principle.

>Better dead, than red.

Hence, why objectively, whether you agree with it or not - we are the economic super power of the world.

>>61074745

i'm referring to reality. but thanks for showing us what bible belt education can do for someone. kill yourself you useless underage teenie bopper.

>>61078987
>FDR wasn't a socialist, he enacted programs to help the people, that isn't socialist at all. This country is rife with programs aimed at helping people, that doesn't mean we are socialist
>Being socialist, is being pro communism and communism is about collecting wealth, and distributing to the populating as the government sees fit.

No seriously, do any of you have any fucking idea what you're talking about? How is anything Sanders is advocating completely unique from FDR's proposals? FDR was more left!

>>61078935
migrants don't even want to be in your capitalist raped shit hole you fascist furry cuck

>>61078987
This is an awesome platform for free speech and unfilitered discussion but unfortunately it's completely flooded with uninformed and stupid people.

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>>61079120

I am not a furry you subhuman effeminate kike marxist cuck trash

Filthy kike abomination

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>>61078987

>A lot of you kids here confuse things for one extreme or the other.

>Being socialist, is being pro communism

AYY LMAO

>communism is about collecting wealth, and distributing to the populating as the government sees fit

You do know all government spending is redistribution as the government sees fit? Therefore according to you, anything except anarchism = communism.

>>61079102
Once again you show that you not only have no interest in reality, but are completely fine with distorting the truth to your own ends. This is what I meant. You won't get anywhere by acting like a literal retard famm.

It's just an act right?

>>61079250
Sometimes I get legitimately upset that I have to share a country with these people and that their opinions affect our democratic process.

Socialism is bad because its proponents think you can divide the world into good and bad.

>>61079101
i should say, principles* - plural

Socialism can work in a homogeneous nationalistic nation, national socialism.

>>61079106
Funny how FDR campaigned against Huey Long who was far more socialistic, I would say FDR was not socialist back 30's-40's standards.

But American politics shifted sooo right that Democrat party in 2010's is the equivalent of GOP under Ike.

I had too much fun when I argued with an American Conservative. I changed to names of policies enacted by Eisenhower and just labeled him as if Obama did it. Fucker went berserk and shouted how socialism was ruining his country.

By today's standards even Nixon is a liberal.

>>61079101

So because you supposedly have a lesser degree of socialism, USA is a non socialist country whereas European nations are socialist?

Are you aware that European countries and the USA are all hybrid systems of socialism and capitalism?

>>61079519
>I would say FDR was not socialist back 30's-40's standards.
>But American politics shifted sooo right that Democrat party in 2010's is the equivalent of GOP under Ike.

You're correct but 80-90% of the Americans you talk to don't know or understand that. I'm not exaggerating. When someone says "social democracy would never work in the US" they honestly don't know that it was how we did it for more than half of the 20th century. They literally don't know that happened.

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>>61079491

Correct but National Socialism has nothing to do with jewish marxist socialism (social democracy "democratic socialism etc)

>>61079250
>You do know all government spending is redistribution as the government sees fit?

You're right, it is an opinion. To me, socialism, is allowing the government complete control over civilian lives in; monetary, social, political and personal matters.

It's difficult for me to pin point what makes yurop socialist and the US of A, not. You know your country is socialist, when immigrants are given priority over patriotic, tax paying citizens. When you have reached this point, you have become a socialist government.

Hope that clears it up.

>>61074063
Corporations provide things. Poor people don't

>>61072159

>Why socialism is bad

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them,
and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation

>>61079740
Anon you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Stop trying, and do your research. You don't even know what the word socialism means.

>>61079785
People make a lot of fucking money off of you believing that myth.

you can't understand anything that require technical knowledge and analythical thinkin atibutes in the first place

you've probably lack maturity to put the time and effort to understand the opposite positions to your perspective, why? because your stupid thread means you've never even experienced that

>>61072159
Socialism makes people lazy that's why it's bad. Sadly.. Atleast with nat soc the government is willing to use the stick and power of media(propoganda) to ensure that the people of the country are productive and do the right thing

>>61080017
How does social democracy make people lazy? I honestly want to hear how you came to this conclusion.

>>61079550
>Are you aware that European countries and the USA are all hybrid systems of socialism and capitalism?

Are you dense?

I assume you just want me to say the US is a socialist country...

That makes me chuckle.

To answer your question : Yes, most countries operate in a grey area.

The US doesnt lean to heavily on socialism like the rest of Europe does - there is not question about that.

Just look at the numbers 'mate', the country is less than 300 years old and its the most productive and innovative in the world.

>>61072343
>explaining it in newspeak makes it alright, guys

>never explains why

Plenty of people have explained why, you just haven't bothered to listen to them.
Look up the "economic calculation problem".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkPGfTEZ_r4

>>61079740
>When you have reached this point, you have become a socialist government.

Moving the goal posts eh? So Norway isn't socialist then, because they have taken hardly any migrants.

USA is socialist because according to people like Trump illegals get priority over citizens.

>To me, socialism, is allowing the government complete control over civilian lives in; monetary, social, political and personal matters.

Socialism is a political ideology, not something you can throw around as a hunch. "To me, it's this"

>>61075787

>You do know they give the vast majority of charitable donations?

But give less of their wealth as a percentage than poor people. Imagine how much charities would get if it was spread out to the more generous.

>>61079740
>To me, socialism, is allowing the government complete control over civilian lives in; monetary, social, political and personal matters.

k

>It's difficult for me to pin point what makes yurop socialist and the US of A, not.

There are very few socialist countries in europe, and most have been losing socialist traits in the past 2 decades. My country one of the best examples

> when immigrants are given priority over patriotic

It's not socialism, its retarded people bought by american money: How are your mexicans and niggers doing???

>>61080136
>Just look at the numbers 'mate', the country is less than 300 years old and its the most productive and innovative in the world.

Do you know how much of that time was spent as a social democracy? Up until a few decades ago anon.

>>61080124

Just look at American niggers, white trash, and illegal spics using welfare as life suppirt rather than as a safety net, Jamal.

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>>61080328

OH LOOK THE AUTISTIC LEFTYPOL KIKE SHILLS ARE RAIDING AGAIN

SAGE HIDE REPORT

>>61080415
A broken welfare system does not have to be a part of social democracy. If we added Universal Healthcare, a higher tax on the rich like we did for much of our history, universal higher education, a higher minimum wage and public works programs, how would that make people lazy? Were people lazy up until the 70's?

>>61072159
YOUR COUNTRY IS ON THE BRINK OF COLLAPSE YOU FUCKING KEKOLD PIECE OF SHIT.

YOU'RE THE RAPE CAPITAL OF EUROPE AND YOUR HDI IS PLUMMETING

FUCKING KILL YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS BETA CUNT

THE ONLY REAL NORDIC MEN LEFT AND CONQUERED BRITANNIA AND THE AMERICAS AFTER THAT

MODERN SWEDE Y CHROMOSOMES ARE FUCKING GARBAGE

THE ONLY NORDIC COUNTRY WORTH A GOD DAMN IS BASED AS FUCK ICELAND

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>>61080381

Apolitical underage Berniecuck detected. Are you seriously trying to imply that America was a "social democracy" in the past?

>>61072159
Read history books.

Or have they already rewritten all of the history in sweden?

>>61079799
>You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

Wrong. One does not imply the others. You can't take away the 5th yatch from a rich and do not let disabled people starve in the street. This is socialism

>What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

True, but middle class is the class that as more to win from socialism

>The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

Sure, so?

> You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

You can, read economics

>When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them,

Most people want to get rich and earn more money. Very few people get satisfied with getting only benefits

>nd when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation

I still think unemployement is a serious problem in our countries, and it's not because people don't want to work

>>61079785
Provide things for who? And if they can't buy?

>>61080136

>The US doesnt lean to heavily on socialism like the rest of Europe does

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

>country is less than 300 years old and its the most productive and innovative

Literally came over to North America with technology and ideas from Europe, age has nothing to do with it.

Is it not inevitable that a highly populous, rich in natural resources melting pot of European cultures would be productive?

Also, per capita the USA is btfo by the GDPs of several European countries.

Inb4 I get called a communist, I'm actually a Liberal (European meaning) with libertarian leanings.

>>61079785
>what is labor resource

>>61080616
The minimum wage, social programs, and taxes on the rich were all as high as Sanders is proposing for much of that time. Spending as percent of GDP doesn't say much at all here you greeceball

>>61080576

>country who went bankrupt is the only good nordic country

>no money

>good

AMERICA FUCK YEA! 15 TRILLION DOLLAR AND STILL GOING UP!

>>61080458
Yes, i am from lefty /pol/ and decided to raid /pol/. Because i am a genious, i put "lefty /pol/" in my tripcode. Such genious.

I only browse 4chan in my life. The other "online communities" i ever took part of is 9gag

Literally everything that's worth having is created by capitalist states. That's all I need to know.

>>61079862
People make a lot of money by voting in fucking kike owned or actual Marxist-Leninist kikes info office who steal from me by taking my tax money and giving it to you.

Worthless piece of shit.

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Jesus fuck you dumb shit, you had socialism happening right across the Baltic from you. That should serve as a fucking warning.

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>>61080616

91% tax rate under Eisenhower, so yes.

>>61080649
>Or have they already rewritten all of the history in sweden
Socialists have rewritten all history books to take out the fact that socialism always ends in failure.

>>61080868
Lol whatever you say classcuck. Only the government can exploit you :^)

>>61072239
/thread

>socialism has never been successfully implemented
>never explains why

>>61080855

Most stuff has been invented in the UK, Germany, France and the USA.

>m..muh Europe is socialist

>>61080999
The Nordic Model excluding Sweden.

>>61080570

This works in countries with homogenous white (east asians included) populations. As soon as you throw shitskins into the population they take advantage of the programs to the maximum extent, LaDarious.

>>61079249
AHAHAHHA
Holy shit all those buttons

>>61080829
>kike bankers fuck over country
>kike bankers get imprisoned

>meanwhile your women are getting fucked by niggers and mudslimes all day

We're the only super power, our debt means nothing

>>61080999
>anarcho capitalism has never been successfully implemented

>>61080895
Just look at OP's flag

>>61081041
How are they supposed to exploit what I've stated?

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>>61080817
>The minimum wage

The minimum wage was a New Deal policy and is not a particularly socialist policy. Sweden doesn't have a minimum wage and I bet you idiotic redditors think Sweden is socialist.

>social programs

Spending on social programs was negligible until the Great Society

>taxes on the rich

Effective tax rates on the rich were much lower than today. The tax system used to be much less progressive than today.

You berniecucks are so cringe worthy

>>61080897
No one actually paid that amount.

Smoking weed is illegal in most states, so no one must smoke in those states.

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>>61080897

Why are socialist cucks so autistic and stupid?

>>61072159
Why?

Because a socialist safety net encourages people to take less seriously the threat of losing their job.

It literally discourages the very productivity it depends on to function.
It's like a troll physics meme.
>hurr durr I'm going to hook up a generator to this electric motor and the generator will power it after I disconnect the battery

>>61081002
There's very little research happening in Europe these days. I've been looking for research jobs recently and there are twice as many offers in States than in all of Europe combined.

>>61081267
Now you should understand the "plugging a power strip into itself" joke.

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>>61081032

Sweden is not socialist you clueless underage berniecuck

Socialism = state ownership of the means of production. Sweden has a mixed economy with redistribution

>>61081129
>Spending on social programs was negligible until the Great Society

False.

>Effective tax rates on the rich were much lower than today.

False.

Try again fuckstick.

>>61072159
kills the middle class by destroying average person's ability to make savings and invest in their own lives.
Responsible people put off their lives further than they would.
These responsible people don't have kids or raise a family. Lower birth-rates for responsible intelligent white people. Niggers who don't care about personal responsibility have as many kids as they want and get the social welfare taken from the responsible to pay for them. Essentially reverse Eugenics.

Lack of savings in the middle class also makes starting new small businesses impossible, leading to only established mega corporations to fill in all gaps which they would normally never even be suitable for, due to lack of niche competition. This leads to cementing society into megamonopolies and further wealth stratification as the middle class is bled dry to pay for the lower class and ironically the wealth will be concentrated in the hands of even fewer, the elite with ties to government granted monopoly who run the mega-corps too big to fail. Crony Capitalism is an inevitability of a socialist capitalist hybrid society.

>>61081362
We refer to that as Social Democracy, and most people in America colloquially call that socialism.

>>61081250
The tax rate was for people making what amounts to ~3.3 million (by todays inflation rates,) annually

Very few people made that kind of money... And those that did, made well over. Who's to say they didn't pay those rates?

>>61072159
Monoplies=bad

>>61081259

>Uses graph showing income taxes falling from 1980 to argue against a fact about a President from the 1950's

>Greece-tier education

>>61072159
Because people are not equal. Equality is nonsense. It's not a reality and enforcing it would only benefit the weaklings. Leftwing politics are the choice for the loser who's so rectalravaged about not winning that he demands a world in which everyone loses. Someone who's not a total bitch would never agree with the stupid shit socialists say.

I thought we got that of the way right at the start.

>>61078935
Ever notice how it is kids who support socialism and EU immigration? You have to be young, inexperienced and easily manipulated to support such things.

>>61081362

Bernie is not a socialist by that definition then either.

Were you dropped on your fucking head as a child you Turk rape baby?

>>61081507
It's uncanny how every single poster from Greece is a dumbass.

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>>61081507

Effective tax rates for the rich didn't fall you socialist britcuck subhuman

>>61081362
>Greece
>having the gall to reply in a thread about socialism

You roach rape babies are truly human trash

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>>61081401

Nice sources you got there you subhuman "troll". Kill yourself kike trash

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>>61081662

The graph you posted shows they did.

How's your economy doing? Do you owe me something by any chance?

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>people confusing communism with socialism
For fuck sake....

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>>61081721

Fuck off you kike loving low IQ amerimongrel niggerkike

>>61072159

Who is actually socialist nowadays and not a communist disguising as a socialist?

>>61081662

Why does this picture make me want to commit violent assault? I'm certainly no athlete, but this level of sloth and gluttony makes me want to kill.

>>61081732
Once again you're using a graph that doesn't even include the time period we're talking about you greasy turk. I was talking about the New Deal and have been this entire time. Just give up and shoot up on the streets you brainless moron.

>>61081732
I don't even understand how the information in that graph works... That's almost as much money that is actually in circulation, within the United States...

>>61072159
>SOCIALISM IS BAD
>POL IS NATSOC
>THEREFORE POL SAYS SOCIALISM IS BAD
SWEDE LOGIC
fuck off, cuck

>>61080958
I'm wealthy, my problem is that I need a government that will sanction burning your family alive and prevent your shit bloodline from continuing you weak fuck.

>>61081459
Their lawyers

>>61081829
>People thinking socialism is a thing
It's literally so broad and undefinable any economic system can be described under "socialism".

>>61081946
I bet it makes you feel like a big boy to roleplay as a rich man on 4chan lmao

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>>61081859

>Getting this angry over a picture of a fat person

>>61081836
Greece pls

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>>61081836
>tfw 23andMe is 100% northern European and a halfroach thinks you're some mongrel from Commiefornia or Jew York

>>61081998
Socialism isn't something that you implement as one.
Having universal healthcare and education is socialist measures but that doesn't make a country socialist.
I agree with socialism in many things, like I said before, universal healthcare and education but welfare and some pensions for parasites I totally disagree with that.

>>61072239
/Thread

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>>61081889

New Deal policies were continued and implemented after the war you worthless cuck. Social spending up until the mid 60s was negligible as the graph shows you double digit iq subhuman. The idea that America was a social democracy in the 50s is so ridiculous and false only a clueless berniecuck would believe it. End yourself you are an embarassment.

>>61072239
Came here to post this, way late to the party it seems. Glad a fellow American was on top of it.

>>61077367
No. Democracy is dumb people elected by dumb people

>>61081921
/pol/ is clearly reactionary. Nazis are revolutionaries, the natural enemies of the reactionary. /pol/ hates revolutions. They want things to go back to the way they used to be.
If National Socialism took over, /pol/acks would be the first to encounter camp adventures. /pol/ is for freedom of speech and trashing the left wing, Nazis are for only saying what is approved by the Party, and trashing both wings.

>>61081829
>Different between Commie and Muh Social
Gommunism is a wolf and Socialism is a wolf disguise under the skin of a sheep.

>>61082266

How does it feel to be a fat autist who needs to tell everyone that he was going to post something on an anonymous imageboard?

>>61080570
What happens when you have no more rich people to tax?
Rich people have resources to move away and will find somewhere that satisfies their desires, like a country that doesn't tax as much for their wealth.

How do you produce more rich people to tax if there is no desire to become rich?

>>61078361
The thing to do is:
Simplified taxes, 10% on everybody and some schemes to take some profit from foreign corporation since they arent citizens
But no, the government always come up with sneaky taxes to be way over 10% and the socialist faggots always lick their boots. Pathetic

>>61078473
>Socialism is a way of governing
Socialism is an economic system.

>>61080458
No leftypol drops buzzwords and socialist terminology so as to make themselves seem more intelligent. This here is a tumblr

>>61072159
because it fucks up the free market and the aim for equality is bullshit when everyone is so clearly different you dingus

>>61072159
>socialism is bad
look greece

>>61073609
>Even if companies aren't privately owned they still can compete
fuck off, you and your commie friends destroyed this country
>muh the state must feed us
>muh tax the private sector to feed us

>>61072159
it killed like 200 million people in russia, or something like that...basically shoah times 72

>>61072193

are we talking about capitalism, or socialism?

>>61083721
your country is fucked up because of loads of corruption, people avoiding taxes, illegally taking pension for grandma who is dead since 5 years ago and retiring with 50.
it has nothing to do with "socialism" lmao

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>>61083905

>>61083905
>american education

>>61083721

>Incorrect use of muh

Neck yourself, angry roach rape baby