Did the God Emperor have any noteworthy moments or problems during the debate?
He effectively ended Cruz's campaign tonight. With a 9/11 reference, no less.
He made a terrible mistake that is most likely going to cost him Iowa and is going to drop his poll numbers significantly. He went after Cruz for about 5 minutes. It was a split screen where it showed him and Cruz and Cruz was looking very humble and actually a little upset that Trump was going into him like that. Cruz came back and definitely won the debate between the two of them and made Trump look a little foolish. First time I've seen Trump on the defensive.
Had it been any other candidate it would have been just a classic Trump moment but since him and Cruz are essentially going after the same people it will likely not sit well with the anti establishments and Cruz will benefit from the exchange.
Here's one of the highlights.
POLLS (20 total, posted in order discovered):
Polls that Trump is LOSING:
I think Cruz was insulting the city of New York, not the whole state. You can be offended if you want, but he wasn't wrong in saying it.
Pretty much Trumps whole angle is "Say it if it's true and fuck PC faggots" (which I completely respect him for) so it's a little disingenuous of him to retaliate.
This tbqhwyf (This, to be quite honest with you family)
Trump made himself out to be a petulant child taking pot shots. Cruz was cool, calm, and collected and completely shut down everything that Trump had to say. Cruz treated Trump the way Trump treats Jeb.
Trump,did good considering debates aren't his thing.
Trump,is greater then a Hillary and Bernie!
he cucked Jeb for having no airplane.
Not at all disingenuous. His hometown got insulted by some slick, weaselly lawyer while his wife just so happens to work on Wall St.
Also, Cruz is Canadian. We can't tolerate a Canadian attacking any part of America. Not New York, not SoCal, not Florida, not New Jersey.
Not even Ohio.
>That perfect retort from Trump
WE HAVE STARTED THE FIRE
WHY ISN'T THERE A TRUMP RALLY HERE IN NEW JERSEY, FUCK MY LIFE.
HOWEVER I'LL BE THERE TO CAST MY VOTE FOR THE GOD EMPEROR TRUMP IN NOVEMBER.
Oh shit, look at Cruz's face the second Trump says World Trade Center, he knows he dun goofed
And nothing about that has anything to do with what they were talking about, which was (paraphrased):
>Who are you going to trust to defend the 2nd Amendment? A New York City native? Big East Coast city dwellers don't share the same values most Americans have on these things.
We need Trump votes on Blaze! Suck it Glen Beck - Trump is gaining! Please keep the momentum going!
Nobody cares, sperg. Trump took complete control of the frame in that situation. He disemboweled Cruz's patriotic bona fides on national television and had Teddy literally clapping while his dreams for the White House were snatched away from him.
We can ship them to Canada, they'll fit in just fine.
>no substantive argument
>insist you won anyway
I repeated Cruz's argument, which is demonstrably true - that New Yorkers have a poor record on the 2nd Amendment.
You give a singular subjective opinion that he was "rhetorically destroyed".
You might fit in better with the SJW crowd. They argue a lot on the basis of feels.
>I repeated Cruz's argument, which is demonstrably true -
You still don't get it. I'll spell it out for you:
You and Cruz are operating in the realm of logic. Trump operated in the realm of emotion. Most people respond more strongly to emotion than logic, meaning that Trump scored a yuge PR victory over Cruz at a very opportune time. That you cannot grasp the significance of this makes me seriously question both your empathy and your social skills. Your having a developmental disability like Asperger's Syndrome seems likely.
How can you even retort to the most basic common sense.
>there is a chance the dems will use it to fuck the campaign up if you are nominee/vp slot so get it sorted out
>no I won't because herr derr durr duur left wing jurist
It's so goddamn silly
All I was saying was Cruz wasn't wrong saying what he said. Trump can be offended by it if he wants. Will people be smart enough to see through Trump's obvious dodge over his city/state's record on guns? I dunno. In the end you may be right.
Honestly it was a perfect opportunity for him to stand up for city-dwelling gun owners and say literally anything about how he might try to make the 2nd stronger from a federal level and get rid of unconstitutional bullshit in hellholes like NY, CA, etc. But he didn't. Anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together saw right through that
invoking of 9/11. Complete non sequitur.
Non-New York shills (reads: literally everywhere not New York) do not give even one single fuck that he rightly insulted that shithole on the basis of 2nd Amendment rights.
>Recognizing when somebody doesn't answer a question/argument is now the basis for a diagnosis of autism
To be fair, he's not entirely wrong. Upstate NY is tolerable (hung out with a few people from there), but they get cucked by NYC laws. Chicago vs rural Illinois is pretty much the same.
That's why I'm saying Cruz was insulting NYC and urban city policies on guns, not necessarily the whole state. Even upstaters would probably agree with Cruz. Trump responded specifically about NYC, so at least he took it that way.
Because NYC dominates the state electorally.
Same thing in California. 80% of the places in California are conservative. However the big cities: Sacramento, LA and SF make the whole state blue
i don't really know. i think it's a legitimate concern, but i also think that pride makes a big difference in the cruz campaign. i'm not sure what the next move is. I think we'll have to see the dust clear a bit before we'll see the next move.
I'm worried that he won't by following the train of thought that doing it would be admitting Trump is right on the issue and it makes me worry that it will throw the Trump/Cruz ticket out of the window.
He's pretty much in a lose/lose situation politically, then as you said, he has to chose between pride and selflessness.
You're still stuck on the logic of it all. Part of what makes Trump so imposing is that he does not allow any slight to go unanswered; he attacks directly until his target is destroyed or silenced. Going off-message(for him) on guns while letting Cruz's attack on him stand is essentially deferring to Cruz, letting him steer the conversation while showing weakness and running his city up the flagpole. Trump dictates his own points, he doesn't let others dictate to him. If you attack him or anyone close to him(hometown, remember) he will attack you ruthlessly.
That is what makes him a strong candidate. Going on a Cruz-esque wonky diatribe is not what got him where he is.
And your lack of understanding of these dynamics only serves to strengthen my case re: ASD.
I fully understand what Trump did and why. He did it at a lot of points during the debate and I think it served him well. I don't think it served him well in this specific exchange with Cruz.
What you fail to understand is the basic fact that non-New Yorkers don't care that Cruz insulted NYC natives on guns. It was clearly a win for Cruz, even from a feels standpoint. If you think anybody but Trump is going to win NY, you're nuts anyway. Cruz had nothing to lose and everything to gain.
You don't get it. Trump completely negated that by bringing up 9/11. It replaced regionalism with a nationalistic message and a very powerful one at that. Instead of shitlibs in Greenwich Village, he had people visualizing the NYPD and FDNY. Trump's delivery was much stronger, and left a much stronger emotional imprint on his audience. Give it a day. You'll see.
Primaries are literally regional contests (it does snowball as you get further down the line obviously). I don't think this exchange did Trump any favors.
I'm content to wait and see, but I think Cruz brought up something that is going to resonate with 2A voters and Trump failed to take what I think was a big opportunity to address that issue and rek Cruz at the same time but he did neither. People (regular non-autistic people) will notice. I'll leave it at that.
Trump should have focused on how Cruz has no respect for the republican party, that he could put the entire issue to rest by getting a declaratory judgement, and that the only reason he is not is because he is afraid of what the judgement might be.