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>free college education
I don't understand why you Americans wouldn't want this I wish we had this here
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>>61034166

It's not free it's subsidized you syrupnigger.
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>>61034301
You get 18 trillion back
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>>61034166

It should be free but only for useful things like anything to do with science, business, skilled labor ect.

If you want you a useless degree in art, women's studies, or anything else that's equally as stupid you should have to pay.
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>>61034166

>>free healthcare

https://youtu.be/q2jijuj1ysw

Welcome to Canada

People don't want to the idea of getting treatment when they need it, they just want to be treated.
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It will turn even more into an adult daycare center.

On the other hand, a few years of nogs on campus will make rape culture real.
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Why don't we just rename "college" to higher high school? That's essentially what Bernie is advocating for.
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>>61035370
bruh, that's all it is
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>>61035370
it's already like that you mongoloid
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>>61034166
>Free college
>Get free four years of sweet-sweet learning
>Still have to work at Burger King
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>>61034815
>>free healthcare
Sorry what thread is this?
>the video
lel is this what Americans actually think Canadian healthcare is like? I've never had to wait for more than 30 mins even with non serious injuries. The only time you have to wait in line is if you show up with a meme injury like a headache.
>People don't want to the idea of getting treatment when they need it, they just want to be treated
People get treatment when they need it not when they want it
>>61034718
>le only the degrees I want to go into should be covered so I profit the most face
>>61035370
wut
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>>61034666

>End stock market volatility

... what the fuck
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>>61034166
>free
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>>61036033

do you have video proof, like those individuals?

you're an idiot.
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>>61036676
>that video
>video proof
You probably believe "kissing pranks" are real lmao
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>>61036033
This man is a liar. The wait is 6-8 hours. Our healthcare is imploding thanks to its boomer -scum Ponzi scheme design.
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>>61037008

ITS JUST A PRANK BRO XD
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>>61034166

>People actually believe that there's such a thing as 'free lunch'.
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>>61037807
Also 6 months for MRI.1 year for a specialist in certain things. Doctors just basically deny access to shit for these reasons.
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>>61034166
You fuckers pay literally nothing if you go to a school in your region. Your tuition is like 4k a year total all expenses included. Stop bitching.
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Nothing worth having is ever free.
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>>61034166

>free

There is that word again
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>free
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>>61034166
>posting a webm better than your post
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>>61034166
Because the rest of us will sue under the equal protection clause of the US constitution for compensation for our own college education. $200,000 * 300,000,000 people. 600 Trillion sheckles. I don't even think that much wealth exists on the planet.
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>>61040549

You're American, just print more money
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>>61036033

No only the stuff that is useful to society should be free. You are doing it to benefit your country and your country should provide it to you.

The reason we have such a huge influx in neets is because college is expensive and very inconvenient to get started. Plus you can't learn your skills on most jobs anymore unless they are minimum wage jobs. So people are just giving up and living off the government. If the government provided these things for free then there would be no reason for this country to provide welfare and it would more then pay for itself. There would really be no excuses then.

Will never happen though.
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>Snake strikes
>Misses
>Gets fucking rekt
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>>61034166
just think about it for a minute please
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>>61034166
They should take the money and spend it elsewhere amirite?
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>>61042272

They've been defanged
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>>61036033
FUCKING LIAR. do not trust this man. i've seen so many people die waiting for treatment, and i've also seen people get SICKER by getting bad treatment from quack doctors who squat here and hide behind the government.
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>>61034166

Not free, further reduces the value of a bachelors degree.
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>>61034166
>that .webm
Impressive, but tell me...can he poo in the loo?
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>>61034166
>A minimum wage job from a high school diploma isn't enough to live off of
>Lets turn college into 4 more years of high school
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>>61034666

>the more you spend the more you save!

Bernie's PR team clearly came from the retail sector.
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>>61034666
What's his plan for when these companies outsource instead of getting cucked by bernie leaf satan?
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>>61034166
>putin in the UN
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>>61036145
he want to tax HFT, if anything it would lead to more volatility. Not surprising, considering how little he knows about the financial system.
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I'd love it if I were college age, but if it doesnt mean that my student debt from the mid to late 2000s isn't wiped clean no way in hell I will support this in the off chance he gets elected

my parents could pay for college with part time jobs and a little support from their parents, my generation goes to college with skyrocketing tuition and get a life time of debt at the outset of life, and the kids a decade younger get free college. no fucking way

and btw I have a good job and can afford my loan payment but I went to undergrad and my JD and therefor I'm six figures in debt and cannot afford that, a decent car loan, and a mortgage because I live in Colorado and everyone is moving here.
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>>61034166

The #FeelTheBern free college shills are the same ones posting on Facebook about how the Powerball jackpot payout could give $4.3 million to 300 million Americans and end poverty overnight.

So no, I can say with absolute certainty and comfort that not everyone deserves to go to college, let alone free of charge.
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because nothing is free you fucking retard
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>Not saving enough money to go to school in other countries with free education
>government gives dosh just for going to school and that supplements your savings
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>>61034166
this is why your dollar is half ours
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>>61034666
Fuck off
May as well say win the powe ball as well
Dumb nigger
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>>61034166
The government already provides 12 years of free (read: paid for by taxes) schooling. Giving an extra four exponentially more expensive years to millions of students who likely will do nothing with their new degrees is retarded. It would cost far too much to outweigh any rewards and quite frankly people don't deserve free college. You aren't entitled to further education. If you want to pursue it, you should pay for it on your own.
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>>61034666
>You get 18 trillion back
>implying I'm a nigger
>implying I'm a woman
>implying I'm a faggot
None of the above so I guess I won't see a cent of that 18 trillion but I'm sure as hell I'm going to have to pay for it for some nigger
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>>61034166
community college cost almost nothing in America
universities will never be free, they are private.
if community college's became free taxes will go up and the middle class will foot the bill, hence not free.
just look at Obamacare shit is a joke a lot of people are now paying more then they have ever had for healthcare.
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>>61044504
This is what I'm thinking.

What's keeping the people that are facing such a heavy increase in taxation from moving their business to a place where they can be taxed less?

Isn't it better to have a lot of successful businesses taxed at a lower percentage than a few successful businesses taxed at a higher percentage?

There has to be a happy medium, and I think Bernie's plan is as far from that as we are currently.
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Yes I agree. You US fags have to dodge this bullet, it will

>make your children force to get a higher education or they will be useless as every nigger will have one
>make the poor class pay for the middleclass(they poor fags won't get an education anyway, but both pay taxes)
>fall of standards
>make higher education in most cases worthless but still required to get a job at mac donalds.
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russland better slaves country in the world!
1.Free education*
2.Jobs income - 2000 - .....$** in year
3.Free healthcare***
4.Awesome propaganda machine

*, *** - shitty quality
** - Putin friends income.
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>>61034666
I wish people would stop spreading this memographic around. we will never see most of those proposed "savings".
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For the n-th time, education is not free and it never will be.
>b-but the nordic countries have free education--
Fuck off, it's all paid by our tax moneys. Now, the price per capita is very low so I love this system. But it is not free. Nothing is.
It simply appears free. And since we don't have tuition fees (our gov is finally adding them to foreign students kek) it does appear free from the individual perspective.

This kind of makes me wonder why Bernie's plan doesn't include spreading out the education fees as tax for every Merican citizen.

Someone make a copypasta about this, reading about "muh free education" triggers my autism.
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>>61044958

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>>61034666

>He thinks he can cut the entire nation's healthcare costs in half by putting a layer of government bureaucracy on top of it

Fuck off, satan
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>>61034666
I bet they counted as if the businesses they intent to tax wouldn't crumble from the new taxes and still earn over the years what they earned in 2013 or smth.

some rich jew should hire an economist to debunk this, or better if it comes to the very unlikely trump vs sanders scenario then he can use it as his trap card.
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>>61034166
More importantly what's going on in that webm and why haven't you posted the sauce yet
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>>61044958

Maybe it's brits, isn't their billion more than ours?
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>>61034166
We have most of the best schools in the world because only those that care pay.

Would you rather learn how to fish or how to ask people for fish?
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>>61047110
Nah, we use
1,000,000,000
as a billion, but it used to be
1,000,000,000,000.
Which I think is now what you American refer to as a trillion.
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>>61046877
this.

makes absolutely no sense that they would push this bullshit.
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>>61044504
Our influence and reach will force other governments to enact the same regulations and extradite tax dodgers. One world government. There is no escape.
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>>61046658
Companies want to sell to the US because our citizens are consumer whores. We're a gold mine for business and every country wants in on it. If you want the business, the Uncle Sam gets his cut.

Millionaires could flee, but I'm sure living in Singapore or Taiwan with everyone speaking a different language, in an unfamiliar non-US culture, and having to import any technology you want to buy from the US just to save a few thousand on taxes would get old after a while. People like it here and would rather suck it up and pay more than leave.
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>>61046412
Or you know, maybe your children won't take on $250k of debt to get an engineering degree in 2035. If all their disposable income goes toward student loans, they won't make enough money to have children, and you'll have no white grandchildren. Maybe your daughter-in-law chooses to never give your son a child because there's no guarantee of paid maternity leave and she could lose her job. Maybe they'll never afford to move out of your house because wages are too low. Maybe they'll get cancer, go backrupt, lose their house, and move back in with you because people still go bankrupt from medical bills in our privatized healthcare system.
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>>61046877
I wonder how every other first-world country on Earth does it? Hmmm... I don't see them protesting in the streets for the right to go bankrupt from sickness.
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>errone goes to college
>job sector doesn't keep pace
>shit man I can't find work thanks Bernie
>spend more tax bux to go longer and switch degree or some similar situation
>people who don't belong in college and dropout still taking out of everyone's pocket
>muh savings

And before you say something like 'people should know if their is a demand for their degree or if they can complete the education before they enroll' remember it's a pillar of the left philosophy that adults should be treated like children and there is no such thing as accountability. No, in fact these people were just victims of socio economic climate and NOT dumb as all fuc k legislation.
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>>61047072
I love when he slaps the one who tried to bite the shroud.
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>>61034166
>free college education
It's called INTERNET.

You're welcome
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>>61039724
This

>>61042834
And this

OP stop being willfully ignorant shitlord.
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>>61049661
>And before you say something like 'people should know if their is a demand for their degree or if they can complete the education before they enroll' remember it's a pillar of the left philosophy that adults should be treated like children and there is no such thing as accountability. No, in fact these people were just victims of socio economic climate and NOT dumb as all fuc k legislation.
Pretty accurate. If people knew what the demand was for their degree and if it would pay off, nobody would have such high debt in the first place.
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>>61034166

We do. Just don't be white and male.
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>>61036033
>le only the degrees I want to go into should be covered so I profit the most face
Ideology classes like sociology or women's studies aren't worth dog shit.
Your degree is an investment by the government, and it should lead to you producing more so you can pay more taxes later on.

I could start up my own college, get government subsidies and call it men's studies.
We could play football, lift weights and maybe spend a day repeating MRA talking points.
Would you support that? Or do you believe only the "degrees I want to go into should be covered"?
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I am faggot in college, and I want it free.
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>>61049326
They rely on us to defend their borders, giving them surplus cash to spend on dumb things.
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>>61038212
>You fuckers pay literally nothing if you go to a school in your region
>b-but Community College is for poor people, I'm better than that and that's why I couldn't get any decent scholarships
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If Bernie doesn't pay it for himself, it isn't free
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>>61034166
>I have to pay so niggers can fail out of college

No thanks
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>>61034166

you get what you pay for

free education = education being worthless.
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>>61034166
there already IS free college
Joining your national guard grants you free education to any college you please by sacrificing only one weekend a month and helping in case of emergencies
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>>61034166
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS FREE LUNCH REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>61034666
>adding public universal healthcare cost $18 trillion
>ending private healthcare create $32 trillion
How is covering more people going to reduce cost?
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>>61034166
If we're going to be handing out lots of free government gibsmedat. I wanna see social parasitism made a criminal act in this country.

You want hand outs? You're either gonna work for 'em, nigger, or you're gonna go to jail.

Deal?
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>>61051654
hurr durr im retarded
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>>61046783
wait i have a dual citizen-ship of america and finland would i still have to tuition fees?
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>>61051719
I dont want to fight for multiracial capitalists sorry pal.
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>>61049172
>not be a nigger and go to school for something thats actually relvent
>going to have a job paying at least 70k when i get out of school
>implying i give a rat fucking shit about 250k 30 years down the road
wow yeah, i want niggers to devalue my degree because XDD free school for all the dindus XDDD. Fuck off, maybe if you went to school for something other than womans studies, you would be able to pay for anything in life without crying for handouts. move to a communist country if you dont like it faggot.
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>>61051957
If you can't see more people with degrees leads to those degrees being worth less in the marketplace as an employee, you're probably dumb enough to be a Sanders supporter.

The laws of supply and demand are universal and apply to things like knowledge, and labor, and those who can use their knowledge to enhance their labor.
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>>61052019
what do you have against capitalist that happen to be multiracial?
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>>61052189
you're right we should have a less educated populace

jesus you're retarded
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>>61052285
hah
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>>61052438
>educated
education has diminishing returns

what is funny is that public schooling isn't working, scores are shit and literacy rates are going down

as are IQs
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>>61052614
>public schooling isn't working
Also this.
Before just adding more free schooling why not make sure that the free schooling we have actually does its job.
That's 13 years you can use to make the populace better. Instead of diluting college degrees into trash make high school degrees worth something.
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>>61034166

>raise corporate tax rate to 90%
>believe corporations won't just leave
>hurr durr socialism is great guys
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>>61034166
NO FUCK THAT college should be hard, current colleges grade of difficulty to graduate in general is really easy is a fucking piece of cake to be honest the only thing that helps to filter people is the price of college if you make free college well guess what!

there will be to many retards with college complete in the job market, this will make harder to get a nice job because you and other 150 people are applying for the same job and guess what every retard has college done because college is free

Right now the thing that keeps balance is the fact that college is expensive and if you wanna do it theres only 2 ways 1: you get a lucky rich family that pays for it 2: you work you asshole with a job to pay you college
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