>defends private property >doesn't understand that

How is Greece doing with a Marxist party in government? Even the opposition parties are leftist.

I am sure Greece is a paradise on Earth.

>>61016376
>commie warning about"centralization".

überkek!

>>61016376
can some translate Greek for me?

>>61016456
>How is Greece doing with a Marxist party in government
???

>>61016620
Syriza

>>61016606
in short: pay denbts

>>61016376
>paying debts for the first time in thousands of years
>i hate capitalism

>>61016376
Here's a bullet for free.

>>61016520
All media corporations are owned by a very small network of businesses; ultimately if you have immense wealth then you will want to expand by buying other businesses, increasing income. These businesses lobby government politics. In our system, we will ultimately reach a USSR-like status, with soft-power being wielded having any dissidents ostracized.

>>61016520
Yeah, that made me Keanu for thirty seconds. Commie trying to be sarcastic?

>>61016376
>Defends Karl Marx
>Doesn't understand that communism will never work and has always lead to catastrophe whenever it has been tried.

Pay debt, you commie bastard.

>>61016376
PAY DEBTS OR WE SEND THE SANDNIGGERS BACK

I want to absolutely crush capitalism. But I'm not a socialist. Capitalism is too egalitarian and I hate egalitarianism.

>>61016376

Careful there now, you might even make the lelbertarians realize the US never had a free market.

>>61016376
But private property is the result of patriarchy, marriage and masculinity.

http://socserv2.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/veblen/women

So to destroy capitalism/private property you must kill marriage, patriarchy and masculinity itself. This is the type of shit rabid anti-capitalism leads to you know. Even if they structure of global capitalism is turning into the bane of capitalism, going full blown cuck is not the answer. In fact there should be a "white capitalism" (a la Trump) or Guillaume Faye's "archeofuturism".

>>61017234
FUCK

Let me re-write

*So to destroy capitalism/private property you must kill marriage, patriarchy and masculinity itself. This is the type of shit rabid logic anti-capitalism leads to you know. Even if the structure of global capitalism is turning into the bane of white people, going full blown cuck is not the answer. In fact there should be a "white capitalism" (a la Trump) or Guillaume Faye's "archeofuturism"*

>>61016665

To be fair, Syriza (along with most marxist parties) are a reaction to already shitty conditions. IE, there was no Syriza government when Greece was borrowing money. They're generally elected when conditions are usually at their worst (normally from Capitalism).

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I kill a communist for fun.

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>>61016376

Why did this thread die

bump pls

>>61017234
You're not wrong, I just think that Trump, or anyone really, can't stop this process. It would take the collective force of the people for a paradigm shift, and even then it's debatable how that'd worth. But at least I have to appreciate you know how the system works, so good luck with Trump.

>>61016376
>Marx
How come every notable marxist scholar is economically illiterate?
Marx - studied sociology and law
Horkheimer - sociologist
Habermas - sociologist
Adorno - sociologist
Wallerstein - sociologist
Žižek - sociologist
Kagarlitsky - sociologist

And list isn't even full(all others were also majoring philosophy/sociology).

Do you really think people will fall for your "give money to the poor and it will work" meme?

>>61028363
How come none of the neo-liberal economists managed to predict the 2008 crisis? Are they economically illiterate or something?

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>>61028873
>marxist scum went full whataboutism
As expected.

>>61029311
Alright, how are the people you mentioned economically illiterate and who did you consider economically literate, to make the comparison? Can you answer that faggot? No, because you're a smug-anime-posting bitch, that knows next to nothing.

>S-socialism and communism work!
>Nobody's tried the right version!

Yes, all of these countries have simply done it wrong.

China
Cuba
Laos
North Korea
Vietnam
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Belarus
Estonia
Georgia
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Latvia
Lithuania
Moldova
Russia
Tajikistan
Turkmenistan
Ukraine
Uzbekistan
Afghanistan
Cambodia
Mongolia
Yemen
Bulgaria
Czech Republic
East Germany
Hungary
Poland
Romania
Slovakia
Albania
Bosnia
Bulgaria
Croatia
Macedonia
Montenegro
Serbia
Slovenia
Angola

Your version is special. You know what you're doing. They were all wrong.

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>>61030121
>Cambodia
He was supported by the US

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>>61016376
>>61028363

>>61028873
>>61029961
You look like shit when you deflect so hard. If you are actually trying to convince people you've already lost.

>>61030121
Ignorant and stupid. The point of this thread was to talk about Capitalism, not Socialism nor Communism. All of the countries you mentioned, some of which made sincere efforts for socialism that shouldn't be underestimated, couldn't help but be "state capitalist" that is, have their whole nation run as a sole business. That isn't to say "socialism hasn't been tried". It was tried. Multiple times. But you misunderstand socialism if you expect a utopia.

>>61030121
also, i forgot to say that former some soviet republics are either shitholes or going full retard

>>61029961
Didn't Marxists really think that the great recession was the demise of capitalism? I got that from Explaining Postmodernism by Stephen R. C. Hicks. He said that the great recession was like the complete demoralization of socialists and Marxists because they had predicted that it was the end of capitalism but of course it did not turn out that way.

Anyway I don't know why I should trust the people that have tried and failed at every single attempt to destroy capitalism. Even going as far as to question and debase the biological genesis of humanity (http://thebaffler.com/salvos/whats-the-point-if-we-cant-have-fun) as a means to destroy their boogie man. Leftists always fail in economics and no one should trust them desu.

>>61030552
Convince you of what? That sociologists can know economics better than certain failed economists? That Marxist economists do exist? Wikipedia can tell you that much, bruh. Thanks for your "interest".

>>61031186
I have no idea who any of those people are, maybe you should e-mail them and ask for your money back if you bought their books. The fact that some retarded intellectual can make a pseudo-marxist argument about why his cat farted, doesn't discredit the original theory. People are creative; also writers have to write.

>>61031241
>That sociologists can know economics better
>it-just-works

Yup, your are a shining blue star of ignorance indeed

>>61031994
Whatever, go back to your Trump thread faggot. It isn't necessary to ruin the entire site with your faggotry, let the free market fix it.

>>61032526
>go back to your Trump thread faggot
God forbid. Trump=Bernie when in comes to economics.
Cruz 2016

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>>61016376
>this sucks at a collective level
>therefore lets make it also suck at the individual level

>>61030792
>It was tried. Multiple times.

It always fails. That's point. It hasn't worked because it will never work.

>>61032980
Be honest, are you currently majoring in economics? I can sense some newly-found excitement to lecture others.

>>61034030
Hey, free software has nothing to do with that!

>>61034044
Something is bound to fail when it has unrealistic goals. Lenin was just a usurper of power and Stalin was a pragmatic guy with too much power on his hands, a starving people and a World War. He did rather well, not as a communist, but as a leader.

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>communists
>people
choose wisely now, you may only choose one

>>61034295
oh yeah true, i should edit that.
Honestly didn't see it.

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>>61034527
kk

>>61034851
For a board that practically lives on Holocaust denial, you're too eager to accept every famine and destruction involving communism.

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>>61035354
the sun is green prove me wrong :^)

>>61035526
Are you mocking me for what you're doing? As a humanity-loving Nazi go cry over thev ictims of communism. Especially the gooks and other 'subhumans'. And then come here and post your Holocaust denial infographs. Such is the life of the mentally challenged.

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>>61036209
>everyone on pol is a nazi
100% capitalist here, sorry karl marx couldn't save you from real life B^)

>>61036910
>100 capitalist here
How much capital do you have, ignorant person?

>>61036910
>100% capitalist here
How much capital do you have, ignorant person?

>I'm a capitalist
>but I have no capital
>I just support them
FTFY

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>>61037132
>>61037163
all of it commie, B^)

>>61037300
You're almost talking to yourself here and double posting in rage lol

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>>61016376

>>61037878
Another fellow industrialist of /pol/?

>>61016376
>debtor
>hailing marxism
STRANGE

>>61038052
>>/s4s/ for the memes
This is the politics board. Behave yourself, kid.

I'd say the centralized power structures in America wouldn't be doing so hot without the corporate welfare they're receiving from big gov't.

>>61016376
>Implying there's anything wrong with centralization.
Beware the wiles of Moloch!
Capitalism is a grand and powerful tool, but nothing more than a blind idiot god when left to it's own devices.

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>>61016376
That's all well and good, but it won't stop me shooting you if you trespass on my property.

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>>61016376

>>61038626
I used to think it was corruption, but it's more of a system requirement. What is the President to do? Let them fail? They have taken the economy captive.

>>61038915
Centralization isn't corporatism necessary. Business could concentrate outside the government, too, like it did in the end of the 1800's in America. It's just a natural effect; even socialist countries obey(ed) that law. That's why I'm bringing it here as a universal fact. It's not that there is an evil elite of 1%ers, or all politicians are corrupt, it's that the system works this way, until it transforms itself yet into another form, which we cannot foresee.

It is necessary to understand that the forces of the market greatly surpass even the will of the richest person alive. This is why Donald Trump can only do so much about this.

>>61016376
>It's like you don't even 21st century
I mean, COME ON!

>>61040017
oh ok i understand and everything is clear

NOT

>>61040622
Think of the premise of making Americs great again. Cheesiness aside, is it possible? Is it simply a matter of will and charisma? Of being more energetic than Obama? I think it has to do more, for every country that is, on where they play on the global scheme of things. The modern of China seems to be the future of Capitalism, not the model of Europe, or the United States.