>He's voting for Trump LMAO How retarded are you?

>>61011846
Attacks on identity work based on your credibility, you're an anonymous on 4chan so you have literally no credibility.

How much are they paying you to post these?

>he's baiting

LMAO
How retarded are you?

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>>61011974
>>61012047
>>61011966
>He's really voting for this dumbfuck
Unbelievable.
He's going to get BTFO by hillary or bernie so hard in the general election.
Sorry, baiting =/= being right.

>>61011974
>>61011966
But he posted this shit on his twitter.

I dont think trump believes it ,but it really shows that he's a bigger shill than kikes.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/449525268529815552?lang=en

Yikes. Well, let's hope he's over it.

>>61011966
>no credibility
so more than trump?

>>61012139
I'm an Estonian, I am not voting for any American president.
I guess calling people stupid is your way of coping with your own inadequacy.

>>61012139
NOT CAUSED BY HUMANS

>>61012139
>he's really baiting

LMAO

>>61012139
>>61011846

Going for bernie now.

>>61012151
Do you not understand English language?

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>>61012260
>hurr hurr im estonian
>hurr hurr i just support a candidate that has nothing to do with my nation hurr hurr

>>61012372
Can you explain how its bait if these tweets actually happened and I'm 100% right?

>>61011846

He might be right.

Autism is on the rise and nobody knows why.

Mercury passing the blood brain barrier may very well be the culprit, do you really think pharmaceutical companies would admit to it?

I work for a pharmaceutical company.

>>61012507
This question applies to you too.
>>61012488

You need to go back to school. Take English classes.

>>61012488
Great banter, coming from a slav.

>>61012381
>Australia
Ha. Ha.

>>61012611
>I work for a pharmaceutical company.
fancy way to say you're a janitor

>>61012507
>>hurr hurr im estonian
>>hurr hurr i just support a candidate that has nothing to do with my nation hurr hurr

>I'm not baiting

>>61012633
>Estonian
>slav
Way to flaunt your ignorance burger-friend.

>>61012507
>someones opinion is different than mine
>hes a retard

Literally all he is INSINUATING is that we probably need to continue to look into it to make sure there is NO CONNECTION whatsoever between the two.

Typical 40 IQ libtard though, answers everything with an insult to disguise his lack of knowledge on the subject matter

>>61012825
>Lithuanian
Stop trying to defend your Baltic neighbor. You know that if he's a slav you're a slav.

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>>61012488
I'm not sure why you're trying to reference credibility.
Scientists and doctors are credible and believe Climate Change is man-made and vaccines are safe.

>>61012611
Do you have any studies relating to the correlation between Vaccines and Autism?

>>61012866
>Literally all he is INSINUATING is that we probably need to continue to look into it to make sure there is NO CONNECTION whatsoever between the two.

No you dumb faggot, he's insinuating that there IS a connection between vaccines and autism. Not that we need to "look" into it. Even during the debates, he was pretty much on the idea that vaccines caused autism.

>>61012866
>Literally all he is INSINUATING is that we probably need to continue to look into it to make sure there is NO CONNECTION whatsoever between the two.
but we have done this over and over and there is no connection
>cuckservatives in charge of logic

>>61011846

>MASSIVE SHOT OF MANY VACCINES
>MANY VACCINES
>MANY VACCINES

Although the Autism thing isn't correct, being pumped full of a single shot multi-vaccine isn't exactly the best thing ever, most doctors suggest one vaccine every month or so, instead of a super vaccine like he's mentioning here, He's just wrong on the autism. Also, the more vaccines, the higher the risk of complications, not exactly autism.

DAILY REMINDER SAGE THREADS LIKE THESE AND CONSIDER THEM AS BAIT.

>implying our government wouldn't test chemicals on its citizens

>You must be a retarded Democrat that wants the government to have even more power

>>61012956
I am not defending him, I am attacking you.
Because you are full of shit.
Also no, Lithuanians are not in the same linguistic group as the Estonians. But please go on talking about things you know nothing about.

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>>61012611
There's way more evidence that it's malnutrition during pregnancy than vaccines.

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>>61013283
>Sage threads that don't take Trump's cock
Nice try, Trump shill. How much is he paying you?

>>61013293
Oh boy, do you believe that the government sprays toxic chemicals into the sky too?

>>61013433
>Implying you aren't Shilling for Bernie and Shillary.

Shut it with the Ad Hom and fight my argument.

>>61013359
>Slav
>Language group
What the fuck are you even saying?
>>61013426
Malnutrition with our sixorrilion obesity rating.
Kek.

>>61012139
Hillary literally doesn't even hide her scandals or corruption, and Bernie says just as crazy stuff like "climate change causes terrorism"

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>>61013433
>continuing to aggressively bait
>just waiting for your replies to pour in
>here it is!

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>>61013515
Why would I shill for Bernie and Hillary?
All I know is that Trump is fucking retarded and /pol/ is retarded for supporting him.

>>61013558
Why assume I support Hillary?

>>61013545
undernourishment != malnutrition

>>61012825
Hey, credit where credit is due. He has around 25% chance of being correct.

>>61013217
Okay, let me unpack that for you. The OP conducted an attack on identity.
It's a rhetoric move to cause doubt in the supporters of your opposition. The thing is, this rhetoric move depends on your credibility. So lets say that you're a famous super model known for being intelligent and fair and make that post - people will take you seriously. However, if you're anonymous on 4chan, nobody is going to care.

Because you're a nobody. You have no credibility.

Learn language. The argument presented wasn't "climate change is man made" or "vaccines are safe", it was an attack on identity. He did make an appeal to ridicule fallacy but it's pretty much irrelevant.

>>61013628
Bernie is just as crazy he literally said "we need to apologize for slavery" and got kicked off the stage by BLM protestors I kid you not.

>>61012139
What is wrong with this statement? Other than the fact that it is poorly worded?

>>61013644
I was litterly pretending to be retarded.

There are still holes in that theory.
In what area of nutrition have we not improved on? What are people more deficient of now than in the past? Iron, kek?

>>61013628
>Basing that off of one or two tweets he made

>>61011846

Healthy young child goes to 4chan, gets pumped with massive shot of horsecock, doesn't feel good and changes - AUSTRALIA. Many such shitposts!

>>61013678
25% are Russians, not counting the Latvians

>>61013782
if two thirds of women don't know how to eat right, what makes you think they know how to eat right when they have a baby in them?

>>61011846
Lost my support. Damn it.

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> BASED

>>61013891
Oh darn. What are we gonna do without the vote of Brit-anon?

One kind of dumb cattle allow Jewish doctors to inject their kids with poison? Most of you goys deserve your cancers and autism.

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>>61013545
I mean this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_languages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_languages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnic_languages
Slavs speak slavic languages, go figure.
It must be hard to come to come from a group of people who are not really a nation and don't have their own language.

>>61013879
Its not like we're eating any differently than in the past. Just in greater proportion.

>>61013793
What the fuck, is he supposed to reply to that?

>HAHAH I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED.

>>61012507
Stay comfy in the clouds Pupper

>>61011846
you're trying to build up your energy anon. It's not working.

You're a lightweight

>>61014014
I'm not gonna shill for him to try and improve national relations. Though desu I still think a few kids getting polio is better than them getting raped and subsequently murdered

>>61014060
>Estonia
>Having its own nation
imblyin
>Lithuania
>having its own nation
Go join another commonwealth, thats the only way you can be relevant.
>Latvia
>Anything
Kek

>>61011846
>>61012139
Australian found a working American proxy.

>>61014266
What language do you speak, again?

>>61013891
How could you let us down my fellow American?

>>61013809
I'm implying that something like 25% of Estonian population is slavs.
Although I'm not one of them.

>It's real
he can't keep getting away with this

>>61014187
>Though desu I still think a few kids getting polio is better than them getting raped and subsequently murdered

do you know literally anything about virology or epidemiology

>>61011846
Is this even real? he can't be this dumb

>>61014362
American.
Im guessing you speak Arabic these days.

>>61012507
Stay happy in the clouds pupper

>>61014471
So... German or did we beat English into you hard enough?

>>61014456
I know vaccines don't cause fuckin autism. But a lack of them leave kids, whether vaccined or not, vulnerable to a host of diseases that wouldn't be a problem if herd immunity wasn't under attack by retards. The polio was just for effect

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>>61014422

>>61014468
Authentic.
He makes really retarded statements every now and then. He almost sounds like hes trying to patronize his supporters every time I hear him speak.
>>61014567
>Eternal anglo
>Beating anything but subhumans
I'm glad I'm part Arab. I might take a comfy vacation to the UK when you become the New Caliphate. Inshallah.

>>61014092
What you're quite literally doing is basing the fact that Donald Trump is a bad Candidate because he made a couple retarded tweets, go to a Bernie Rally or a Hillary Rally. You'll see retarded shit anywhere.

>>61014734
What, were you conceived on Ground Zero?

>>61014749
So you're saying you're autistic. And you're also saying you got buttblasted by everyone here. Case closed /thread

>>61014785
Lesser of the Evils again?
We either get batshit insane rednecks or pussy liberals. When will we get a candidate that knows his shit, doesn't flip sides like a hamburger or isn't a complete shill?

>>61015013
>When will we get a candidate that knows his shit, doesn't flip sides like a hamburger or isn't a complete shill?
sanders qualifies

>>61014785
Why are those tweets retarded, by the way?

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>>61012139
>trump speaks the truth
>"oh wow trump is going to get btfo this time!"

>>61015013
Again, he has good ideas, and he truly is the lesser of the evils, he just made a couple retarded meme tweets.

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>>61014266
>yes
>yes
>yes
>commonwealth was ok, why not.
>yes
>doubt you can actually kek at such weak bantz.
So you just repeat what you implied before, your argument is "kek".
We are done here methinks, thank you for that enlightening discussion.

>>61013217
>Scientists and doctors are credible
>HURR DURR SCIENCE BY AUTHORITEH!

If you don't know, understand, and follow the scientific method then shut your ignorant god damn mouth on scientific issues.

>the global climate models have failed to predict the last 20 years and are therefore scientifically FALSIFIED
>there has not been sufficient double blind testing of current vaccines and vaccine schedules therefore science can neither confirm nor deny their safety and anyone who says otherwise is offering a personal opinion and NOT a scientific one

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>>61013742
>>61012139
Climate change is a natural phenomena, we are exiting an ice age and warmer periods shall follow.
Saying that we are causing it is just blatant egoism. We want to be the cause! We want to feel like we have an impact!
Milutin Milankovic wrote a book on it almost a century ago, and it was accepted.
People just like to panic and be occupied with something. If you didnt have that you would probably have some ecological bullshit about 10.000 species going extinct each year.

>>61014877
Nigger I don't care about this thread I just came here to post that

>>61015083
He's a literal Jew. He might not be a shill but thats cutting it.

Hes also VERY weak. With Iran and Russia looming we dont need a weak, indecisive man.
>>61015184
Then hes a retarded candidate, who flips on every matter and is probably a shill.

But maybe his policies will do some good if they dont drag us to another wasteful war?
>>61015322
Latvia and Estonia manage to ever hold onto any sovereignty.
Lithuania, I really dont know much about you guys except for the common wealth under poland.
Yea a majority of your history is under the rule of some slav.

>>61011846

This is ancient, OP.

He's debated this to death, he's for vaccination but wants it spread out over several doctor's visits rather than all at once.

>>61012507
Stay comfy in the clouds Pupper

>>61015132
>>61015130
>>61015459

>cuckservatives literally wonder why people think they're anti-science

>>61011846
fuck.
trump just stumped himself if that's a real tweet.

>>61015665
You just answered yourself. Good job.
The only thing that can ever drag us into war is the wall and that's pretty much just a Meme, the Muslim thing would be hard-pressed to push us into a war unless Europe stays cucked.

>>61015686

Oh, and the expand on this: In one debate Ben Carson was backing him up heavily on the vaccine-time-spread point.

>>61015665
>He's a literal Jew. He might not be a shill but thats cutting it.
He has said he doesn't give a shit about Judaism.

>Hes also VERY weak. With Iran and Russia looming we dont need a weak, indecisive man.

Which he isn't. He's held strong to his positions for decades, unlike Donald "I was a registered democrat" Trump.

>>61015686
Which knowing his history means jack shit. As soon as people shat all over him for it he wanted to come out looking somewhat in the middle as the smart and cautious candidate. Even though we have absolutely 0 proof vaccines cause autism.

If you know trump, then you know he does this often. He was initially in favor of Obamacare.

>>61015778
>I am pro science, but I am incapable of making a basic reasoned argument

You can't be pro-science, without having the mental capacity to form arguments in support of your thesis.
Unless science is your religion. It's not supposed to be, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is a religion for you.

>>61011846
Link me to the tweet and Ill believe you, otherwise you are a faggot OP

>>61015787
Trump says or post something that makes little to no sense, doesnt like it and backtracks. - STUMPED. Many such cases!
Not even Trump himself can stump the Trump.
If he ever does /pol/ will be there to help.

>>61016055
unwilling doesn't mean incapable, cuckservative

look for any paper discussing the connection between autism and vaccines

there is none, trump is retarded, and so are you if you don't understand that

>>61012507
Stay comfy in the clouds Pupper

>>61015665
>under the role of
>commonwealth
choose one
>I don't know, therefore it does not exist
May this policy guide you well in your endeavors friend.

>>61016196
Unwilling or incapable is different only in semantics.

And no, I am not going to look at papers discussing the connection, I am not interested.
If you want to make a case, you bring your arguments and you bring your evidence. Otherwise your claims can and will be dismissed without evidence.

Which is what is being done.

>>61012507
sleep tight in clouds

>>61012168
DELETE THIS

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>hes voting for Bernie

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>>61015939
His Ex wife's last name was "Shill". Most elite Jews don't give a shit about Judaism either. Its about being connected to another.

Also.
Pic related.

At least with Trump we would have good relations with Russia and Stalin for 4 years. Bernie... not so much.

>>61016072
Check back at the start of the thread. Its there.
>>61016333
Idk, man you guys are pretty irrelevant. Poor is the only thing the USA thinks of you. We really cant be harassed to learn the in depth history of every poor nation.

>>61016557
>I don't think I should pay money to get my money from a bank, who is using said money to make their own money
>This makes me retarded
???????????

>>61016609
>Stalin
Eh, wrong era.

>>61016440
>If you want to make a case, you bring your arguments and you bring your evidence. Otherwise your claims can and will be dismissed without evidence.

so in your view
>vaccines cause autism
despite the lack of evidence, this claim cannot be dismissed

>vaccines don't cause autism
despite the large volume of easily googled evidence, this claim must be dismissed

cuckservatives, everyone

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>>61011846
>mfw OP has never pumped a kid full and watch them go full autist a minute later

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>/pol/ no longer believes in conspiracies
where were you when /pol/ became /facebook/?

>>61016609
Thanks bub

>>61016667
If you use your own banks ATM its free unless you have a shit teir bank

>>61016609
How does this make him weak in a political setting? People are screaming and yelling and he lets them go right on to scream and yell without getting involved and ending up looking

a.) retarded for trying to reason with people who think screaming at their best advocate is a good idea

or

b.) RACIS (which would be an easy thing to paint if he had them removed)

or

c.) angry old white man

which is an image many of the candidates are doing their darndest to avoid.

All this event showed me was that Bernie has a strong sense of how not to make bad press.

>>61016667
Then don't use a competing bank's convenience service. I have never had to use an ATM in 24 years because I plan on how much cash I need and withdraw it at my bank branch or you could even withdraw it from one of your bank's ATMs that are fee free.

This is once again children crying about something they don't actually understand or know about. They haven't had a job and they probably have trouble understanding what cash even is, growing up with nothing but plastic for money.

>>61016737
>so in your view
>vaccines cause autism
No.
>despite the lack of evidence, this claim cannot be dismissed
It can be dismissed. It cannot be proven wrong.

>vaccines don't cause autism
>despite the large volume of easily googled evidence, this claim must be dismissed
Evidence you're apparently incapable of providing, so yes.

>>61016769
Re

>>61012611
>Autism is on the rise and nobody knows why.

I know why.

Bullshit diagnoses. Parents wanting their kid to have a diagnosis to justify their kid's shitty behaviour resulting from their own bad parenting.

It's not autism at all.

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>>61011846
you're right, kike. Trump's entire political career is over because he doesn't buy in to the pharmaceutical industry's propaganda

>>61016873
Yea this shit wouldn't happen at a trump rally. He wouldn't let people, especially protesters get that close.

Its pretty hard to paint a man racist when hes not in the same picture frame as the "Victims".

>>61016609

IZ HER SHIRT SAYIN WE WUZ BULLETPROOF?

>Let's shoot her to find out.

>>61015686
>Wanting Americans to spend more money on healthcare for literally no reason

>>61015939
>held strong to his positions
that isn't the same thing as strength.

fervent belief in your philosophy isn't the same as the ability to stand up to people opposing you, and to lead those supporting you.

neither of these are qualities bernie has. he is led around, and lets other walk over him.

even if his ideas were brilliant and workable, he wouldn't be suited for a command position.

>>61017188
BUT ANON. IDEAS ARE BULLETPROOF

WE WUZ ANONYMOUS N SHIET.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WZ0XSf23rs&ab_channel=HDGoofnut

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>>61016954

>It can be dismissed. It cannot be proven wrong.
yes it can and it has been

>Evidence you're apparently incapable of providing, so yes.

there are mountains of evidence

one google search will inundate your page with it

you're closing your eyes and holding your hands over your ears going LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU YOU DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE

cuckservatives, everyone

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>>61011846

>>61015778
>make scientific observations
>"anti-science"

I hate people like you who regurgitate empty but popular opinions as "science."

There is only ONE proper, scientific reply to each of my assertions.

* The presentation of an AGW based GCM which can model the past 20 years, along with a thesis explaining what has gone wrong with all the other GCMs and a set of predictions for the next 20 years that will confirm or falsify your GCM.

* A set of published, double blind studies of at least one popular vaccine schedule from one of the major western nations. Study MUST INCLUDE placebos.

I know that neither exists. A true scientist would look at AGW and recognize that it has been falsified as a theory and needs to be modified or discarded. And a true scientist would look at the vaccine debate and conclude that science can offer no formal opinion on the safety of modern vaccine schedules because they have NEVER BEEN TESTED PROPERLY.

Go actually learn science before talking about it shitlord.

>>61014558
you had one job

>>61017309
>he is led around, and lets other walk over him.
that's wrong though

>>61012507
>>61017518
Stay comfy in the clouds Pupper

>>61017492
what's your highest degree?

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>>61016609
When was anything said about relevance?
You incorrectly called Latvians slavs and instead of admitting your mistake when corrected you went on some bullshit rant.
How fucking old are you?
Don't listen to all that 'indispensable nation' tripe. You are not special. You can be wrong.
Try and learn to accept that.
Oh and don't try to imply that 'USA' is some hivemind. For example: any american who is interested in basketball knows a bit more about Lithuania than "poor".
You are just not one of them.
I am amazed how self-absorbed you are.

Don't you realize?

The only thing that is powerful enough to stump trump, is trump himself!

>>61012287
im pretty sure ruling powers could change the climate if they wanted. they probably will to prove GLUBAL WORMING ISREAL

>>61017179
Of course not, because Trump removes people who are doing nothing but standing peacefully and silent.

Which resulted in a shitload of bad press and is something I can't believe even the hardest Trump supporter would condone considering how much it shits on, you know, the first amendment?

>b-but it's not the government so it's not censorship

shut up

>>61017430
I don't have to fact check what you say and waste my time trawling through random studies, I do this plenty for my own purposes. If you want to make a point that involves proving a position wrong, do it like you're supposed to.

Otherwise fuck off, religious freak.

>>61011846
There's actually a pretty good hypothesis out there that too many antibiotics causes autism.

What happens is, a young child gets a bad ear infection. He begins a course of heavy antibiotics. The antibiotics kill off the healthy gut flora in the stomach, making mildly toxic gut flora thrive instead.

This goes on to poison the brain, sometimes severely, sometimes mildly. The type of gut flora that grows back in the stomach only responds to extremely specific antibiotics that kill only that type of bad gut flora.

Fairly recent news on the subject:

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/boy-with-autism-improves-on-antibiotics-connecting-gut-bacteria-to-asd-032415

>>61017948
>I don't have to fact check what you say and waste my time trawling through random studies, I do this plenty for my own purposes

but you expect me to do the same for a claim of Trump's that has no evidence

>>61017948
Estonia seems pretty based. How many people there speak English?

>>61017883
HAHA.
wow.
reddit trying to pretend it's /pol/.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/11/17/man-holding-protest-sign-removed-from-clinton-event-in-dallas/#.VpFDUPPSJC0

>>61012507
Stay comfy in the clouds Pupper

>>61018070
Majority of us do.

>>61018022
You're attempting to disapprove the claim in order to further your agenda, so yes, evidence is required on your part. You're trying to PROVE that the claim is wrong. You're not DISMISSING the claim.

Dismissing the claim means that the claim is not worth deliberation, which is my position. Because I have neither evidence to prove a causation link, nor the evidence to prove it doesn't exist. Which also seems to be the case with you. However unlike me you take a religious position: the causation link does not exist, at the same time in absence of evidence to back it up.

>>61018070
Most young people.

>>61017964
Forgot to add, this would actually make a lot of sense, we've been slowly increasing the amount of antibiotics we use over the past 25 years.

>>61017948
>religious freak.
There is literally nothing wrong with being religious anon.
The average person is not capable of seeing the reasons to uphold a lot of the traditions and extremely important morals and beleifs without a religion, no matter whether it is blind faith into something that they can't prove to exist, religion is necessary to keep a nation civil and healthy.

>>61015521
>We want to be the cause! We want to feel like we have an impact!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU

>>61018079
>reddit

I've been here since literally 2006

>Clinton
Who the fuck are we talking about again?

>>61012139
You got me man. I'm going Bernie all the way now.

>>61018330
Do you guys hate the US?

>>61018506
>You're trying to PROVE that the claim is wrong. You're not DISMISSING the claim
nope, I'm dismissing it

>However unlike me you take a religious position: the causation link does not exist, at the same time in absence of evidence to back it up.

nope, I've seen the evidence

>cuckservatives wonder why people think they're anti-science

>>61018022
You've got it backwards. Right now there is a major push for permanent mandatory concessions just like Obamacare guarantees a captive market for insurers. It is entirely up to the people demanding that we all get a massive load of untested vaccines all at the same time and all when we are recently born to prove everything. We are not obligated to prove anything, it is up to the ones who want the new policy. What would we prove? That their own package inserts admit to issues which they are regularly caught lying about? That they have repeatedly lied to parents? That the US Government has paid millions in compensation to angry parents with vaccinated autistic children?

>>61018743
Pretty sure they hate religion, and the USA is overly religious compared to Estonia. 80%+ of Estonia is non religious.

>>61018801
no evidence exists connecting autism to vaccines

But this actually happens.

I'm a twin, me and my brother were born in 89. We came out perfectly fine and normal, mum had a c section because we were so big and fat and healthy.

We got the vaccines, I was fine, he had a MASSIVE reaction as follows:

>Abdomen/buttox swelled up a dark purple colour and the skin hardened, his intestinal tract was suffering a massive immune attack
>Bleeding on the brain due to high temperature and fever

After it all died down and the hospital finally let him come home, he was different, incredibly different. Staring off into blank space, not smiling or anything anymore, wouldn't respond to anything, wouldn't breastfeed properly etc etc

By the age of 3 he was diagnosed with the highest teir possible of aspergers. Not "I have aspergers" aspergers.

Like, he has a speech impediment and stutters and has uncontrollable fits of crying and rage

He's now 26 and still is basically a 10 year old.

The local doctors and psychiatrists and help people basically agreed that he was basically given chemical teir autism. That it was indeed the vaccines but there was no way anything could be done about it. They just brushed it aside.

>>61018743
Why should we? US can be rather odd and laughable at times but that gives no reason for anyone to hate it really.

>>61018833
>80%+ of Estonia is non religious.
Not true, this misinformation keeps spreading for some reaosn.
Estonia is 54% non religious, not 80%

trump is like a perfect combination of retard and charisma. it's no wonder /pol/ loves him.

>>61011846

I mean not agree with the crazy fuck but what's been bugging me is leftists on my facebook posting things wishing the guy would die which despite your opinion of him is pretty low thing to pull.

no one has dignity anymore.

>>61018525
Religion is irrational belief in things you cannot prove or things that are outright unfalsifiable.
Why is irrationality part of morality?

Irrationality breeds socialism, feminism, Islam and other vicious ideologies.

>>61018753
>nope, I'm dismissing it
By claiming those tweets are retarded, you're directly implying the content is wrong. Unless my understanding of the word retarded is abnormal.
>nope, I've seen the evidence
I did not realize we have a collective consciousness.

>>61018801
We're actually slowly finding out that it is an issue with over-medicating, but with antibiotics, not vaccinations.

The hypothesis I mentioned in >>61017964 makes a lot more sense then the "vaccines cause autism" hogwash.

>>61017623
>science is MUH CREDENTIALS!

That you would even ask that...FUCK OFF. You do not understand the scientific method.

Observation > Theory > Testable Prediction > Carefully Test > Modify Theory > Repeat

Popular opinion has nothing to do with it.

Authority has nothing to do with it.

Credentials have nothing to do with it.

Consensus has nothing to do with it.

Peer review has nothing to do with it (unless said peer review involves duplication of the testing stage which they generally do not).

Politics has nothing to do with it.

Wishful thinking has nothing to do with it.

It is not "anti-science" to point out that the AGW based GCMs have failed in their predictions, or that current vaccine schedules (and some current vaccines) have never been properly, scientifically tested. In fact, it's a true scientist who is willing to recognize both facts.

>>61012507
Dramatic :(
Stay comfy in the clouds Pupper

>>61019020
>By claiming those tweets are retarded, you're directly implying the content is wrong
nope, I'm dismissing it

>I did not realize we have a collective consciousness.
you claimed my belief was religious, but I've seen the evidence, so it's not

you lose

>>61018964
Have you ever seen any US immigrants there then?

>>61018578
>Who the fuck are we talking about again?
i'm talking with someone who doesn't know how the first amendment works.

lets see you go stand silently in the middle of a restaurant and be left there to do as you please.
or lets see a white man stand silently on a stool in a bernie rally holding a sign that says "all lives matter" and remain unmolested.

>>61019253
I have seen evidence of God. God exists. God told me in my dream that you are wrong.

You have no ability to hold a rational argument. If your ability of analyzing scientific data and studies is at a comparable level of sophistication, I am going to assume that you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>61018938
unreal

>>61019151
we're not talking abut vaccine schedules

and you don't know what el nino is

though I'm sure you have a canned response to that

>>61019020
>Irrationality breeds socialism, feminism, Islam and other vicious ideologies.
Yet it was the atheistic soviet union that declared that science and reason is what must be uphold, and it managed to mostly fill the first part of the promise by forcefully attempting to remove all religions.

Quite odd to see such a mix of ideologies that oppose each other, feminists are mostly atheistic and so are socialists.

Why is it that you seek truth? Why do we need truth?
Truth can be very disgusting and harmful, and in that case we must not tell the truth, but lie for the good.


Why would you want to live in a purposeless chaos in which none of your actions had any significance, in which there was no hope of justice, in which the lives of all those whom you loved ended abruptly on death and had no further significance. Why would you want, desire, actively wish to live in an universe as disgusting as that?

>>61019259
No. I follow the doings of the americans.

>>61019435
Holy shit, I know we're in a thread about autism but it's not a requirement to join the conversation.

I said I know that Trump removing the protester was not literally infringing on the first amendment. The point is that an American presidential candidate shouldn't remove a woman who is silently standing in an arena of people standing, not for standing in the middle of a restaurant, you fucking moron.

It's wrong when Obama does it. It's wrong when Shillary does it. It's wrong when Trump does it. Even if it's not "legally" wrong.

>>61019488
you keep assuming we're having an argument

we're not

I'm just laughing at what a retard you are, since you believe that trump's statement isn't retarded

>>61012139
your an idiot

>>61012507
Stay comfy in the clouds pupper

>>61011846
since you are the retarded one, ill spell it out for you.


what he said was true, there are kids who got vaccinated, then developed autism. he never implied a correlation, you are just imagining things

>>61019983
then he's retarded for just saying obvious shit
>the sun comes up during sunrise. many such cases!
clearly trump is a massive autist

>>61019784
it's not wrong, though. not legally, not morally, not ethically.

removing disruptive elements from a rally is part and parcel of having a rally.

she was also standing in an area of people sitting, with a group of other standing protesters.

>>61019744
Atheism isn't an ideology, you can be an atheist and anything else. Also, it's interesting to note that you don't have to be an objectivist nor skeptic to be an atheist. Your skepticism can only extend to religion. Even just Christianity, really.

Someone who is religious may in fact be more skeptical and more rational than an atheist.
It's just that, why would you want ANY irrationality? Denying reality does not benefit anyone on a fundamental level. It just causes misery and waste of human potential.

>>61019793
Nice backpedaling. You are a sore loser.

>>61012507
stay comfy in the clouds Pupper

>leftists

>>61020657
>Nice backpedaling. You are a sore loser.
at least I don't believe vaccines cause autism though

>>61020657
>It's just that, why would you want ANY irrationality? Denying reality does not benefit anyone on a fundamental level. It just causes misery and waste of human potential.
I'm not advocating for irrationality, i'm advocating for a society with 20th century christian religious beliefs and morals.
How would one be advocating for irrationality, when those that you wish to give freedom of thought, are not capable of rationality? The human potential that you speak of is not there and therefore can not be wasted.

I'll repeat my question. Why would you want to live in a purposeless chaos in which none of your actions had any significance, in which there was no hope of justice, in which the lives of all those whom you loved ended abruptly on death and had no further significance. Why would you want, desire, actively wish to live in an universe as disgusting as that?

I'm off though so i can't participate in this conversation any longer, you should read "Rage against god" by peter hitchens, just a little view of the worldview of an anglical christian and the reasoning behind why he went from being an atheist to christian.

> Atheism isn't an ideology
Yes it is, atheism has had all of the characteristics of a strong ideology. The soviet union was an atheistic state and only allowed the belief in science, and yes, it is a belief to think that what science tells you is true (I also believe most of what science has taught us), the majority of people are not mentally capable of proving what science claims to be true nor do they have the time to do so, and because of this, they simply have to believe what they are told.

>>61011846
Pro vaxers are the smuggest shitters around. Innoculation is a real and beneficial science, but the preservatives and other chemicals in vaccines probably cause some kind of damage in the developing brain of a baby.

>>61012139
Well hes half right. Half of china is a smoggy wasteland.

>>61013217
Scientists and doctors can also be contracted by the gubmint, and corporations with connections to said gubmint, and they have a nasty habit of telling their employees to lie straight out of their assholes in the name of profit.

>laughinggirls.jpg

Opinion discarded

>>61012507
Stay comfy in the clouds Pupper

>>61013879
Thats...probably why autism rates are going up.

>>61021910
>I'm not advocating for irrationality, i'm advocating for a society with 20th century christian religious beliefs and morals.
Why do you need religion for that? You can make a rational case for most useful Christian moral values. They aren't just pulled out of a hat. There is a reason why Christian moral values exist and there is a reason why they are failing in the modern world. It ain't atheism. It's competing religions like socialism.

Everyone is capable of rationality. In fact, from my personal experience you can persuade less intelligent people a lot easier of reality than the more intelligent. The more intelligent people are a lot more entrenched in their irrational beliefs.

>Why would you want to live in a purposeless chaos
I have not proposed that I want to live in a purposeless chaos.

Since you're not gonna address further, I won't be bothering with addressing atheism as an ideology.

>>61014092
>Its not like we're eating any differently than in the past. Just in greater proportion

Are you mentally retarded?

>>61014266
Lavatoria has great lavatories so they say

>>61012139
can people still defend this guy lmao?