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What is your dislike or distrust of Bernie Sanders? He's the first poltician, probably in decades, to run an honest campaign. Not funded by corporations. And he doesn't want to take your guns away. And he will deal with ISIS without demonizing an entire religion. And he has a plan for climate change. And he wants make MIDDLE CLASS America great again
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Like.. What's your beef? For real.
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Look at his tax plan shmuck
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>>60985406
>doesn't want to take weapons
Yes he does

Also, if you took economics (and paid attention) in high school, you should know that Bernie's plan is pants-on-head retarded
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He's a cuck who panders to the most idiotic of idiots.
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Bernie Sanders takes money from special interests. Trump is self funding his campaign.

Berries tax plan is hilariously bad and claims that annual tuition at a public college is ~$5000.
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FTFY
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He is not an honest politician, he does want to take some of my guns away, the whole religion IS the problem, addressing climate change is pointless with China around, and I am the middle class, and I'm the one who will have to pay for all the promises he wont be able to keep.
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>>60985406

>And he doesn't want to take your guns away.

Unless they're semi-automatic. Which is only the majority of the guns in the country.

You guys really suck at this.
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Minority pandering.
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>>60985768
>>60985880
Yeah... you're going to need to back those critiques up. I bet you haven't even read his proposals. How are Trump's plans any better?
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>>60985406
If it's Trump vs Bernie - I like both. Regardless who wins, it might be interesting.
Just no to Hitlary.
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Sombody posted a tweeter of him one time where he was like "I watched the republicunt debate and not one time did they mention banning all guns permanently and forever, global warming, or social justice"

If the Bernie people can't figure out what went wrong yet, then they're behind the curve with even the Democraps.
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>>60985880
Also, learn something new today Trumpfag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VePpQBCbKBw
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>>60985406
I actually think Sanders' policies would work if they were rigorously implemented and supported. But he doesn't have the spine nor the power, even with the presidency, to make that happen, while Trump is capable of making his equally if not more effective strategies work.
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>>60985406
No beef. If he gets the nom ill be shocked. Trump only hope
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Leftists = cultists

what he says and what he thinks will be very different things.

I will seriously never vote for a leftist after spending 20 years seeing virtually nobody who ISN'T a crazy fucked-up cultist.
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>>60985406
If the election boils down to Bernie vs trump I'll be one happy camper. If you Bernie fags dual- shill for trump, I'll dual-shill for bernie. And let the best man win come election day.
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>>60986173
this, this and this
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>>60986168
what's the deal with that meme face?
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Bernie wants to make us just like Europe, which is having tremendous problems both financially and their women raped in the open street.
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>>60986173
He paid them 30k/yr to work for his campaign.

>repeating Cunton propaganda
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>>60985406
>What is your dislike or distrust of Bernie Sanders?

He appeals to the most common denominator, exactly like Trudeau.

>Legalize all weed
>Free College
>Cut all military spending and withdraw troops from stations

He dwells in a realm of impracticality a thousand times more unbelievable than Trump, and people act like Trump's wall is this "Grandiose and impossible plan".

All the while, they agree with Bernie Sanders wholeheartedly. It's rather silly, to be honest. Most of the people voting for Bernie will be college-aged people who currently have student debt.
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>>60985406

You may be too young to understand this, but he is an admitted socialist.
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>>60985406

Back to Econ 101 faggot.
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>>60985406
My country went through socialism.
Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit.
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>>60986608
>t. white nationalist

Wew lad
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>>60985406
He seems weak. Like, one of those guys who put chains on their necks to apologize for slavery.
Obviously i don't like socialism, but his weakness probably bothers me more.
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>>60985406
Career politicians don't have a career if they aren't great liars.
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>>60986483
Billionaires and millionaires would expatriate to another country and renounce US citizenship, while moving factories.

A lot of economic dummies don't understand this, but billionaires are not -OBLIGED- to remain in the United States. If the government tries to put them in a vice grip and squeeze all their money out, they'll simply relocate and take all their tax dollars with them.

But, of course, far-be-it from a bunch of infantile redditors who are in severe debt to understand how society functions.
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He's a communist Jew. Read history it will not go well for us
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>>60985880

>if you were properly indoctrinated into Finance Culture by the same government-paid teachers that taught us historical falsehoods for all of our early lives, you would agree with me

ah, i see
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>>60986812
Okay, let's run this as a cultist test.

Why did you post? What did you seek to indicate or communicate towards me? What did you seek to indicate or communicate towards others?
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>>60986291
They're economically soluble.
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>>60986969
I posted because I knew it would rustle your jimmies, you sensitive little bitch.
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>>60985406
I don't dislike Sanders because the real enemy is Hillary, Bernie can't and won't be elected. The only way he would even be the Democratic nomiee is if Hillary died. I'm so happy that the bickering between Bernie & Hillary supporters has reached an all time high. Chances are when he gets knocked out so will a substantial amount of voters who are Bernie or nothing. There for increasing Trumps chances of winning that much more. I'll be here waiting to tell you I told you so & you can thank me later.
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>>60985406
>demonizing

Islam is literally evil and its like Trump is the only one to recognize this. Or at least he acts like that while sucking Saudi dick.
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>>60986483
>learn something new
>links to Sanders himself saying the plan checks out
Is this why Sanders is doing do well? Are all millennials this retarded?
Take
A
Fucking
Econ
Class
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Bernie is an enemy of the second amendment he does not believe Americans should be able to own AR15's. Why would i vote for an assclown that wants to take my rights and then tax me 90%?

I do kinda hope Bernie wins though because in 4-8 years i will be to old to fight a tyrannical government so might as well do it soon.
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As a middle class, college educated, married homeowner with a family he does fuck all for me except take more of my money. Bernie consider me rich. I get by, and I'm not lowering my standard of living so Jamal and Muhammad can go to school and get givsmedats
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>>60987274
If you don't have significant wealth, he wouldn't consider you rich. It sounds like you have no wealth at all.
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>>60987242
every fucking time
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>>60986643
>soon
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>>60986936
apparently being a public-school teacher is now being a well-paid Wall Street shill
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>>60987274
Are you making a million a year? Because if not, Bernie won't be taking your money.

But Trump will make sure your kids die for Israel.
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>>60985406
Islam deserves to be demonized desu
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>>60987242
This video is testament to why nobody likes black people.
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>>60987242
http://www.occupydemocrats.com/bernie-sanders-lets-invest-1-3-trillion-in-infrastructure-to-create-13-million-jobs/
http://louderwithcrowder.com/math-the-exact-price-tag-of-all-bernie-sanders-proposed-free-stuff/#.Vpf-61vSnIV
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>>60985406
He is a weak man. The moment he backed down from the stage to those black lives matter protesters, that's the moment I realized he is feeble. We can not have another weak president like Obama. We can not do it anymore.
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>>60987135
>Bernie can't and won't be elected. The only way he would even be the Democratic nomiee is if Hillary died.


hmmmm
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>>60987120
Indeed, which is stupid and shitty. You could just as well pull down your pants and crap on the floor.

When I say that I've spent "20 years seeing virtually nobody who ISN'T a crazy fucked-up cultist", I'm being completely honest.
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I think it's sad how the USA in only 16 years has gone from Bill Clinton to having the current kinds of candidates for president. The fact that Trump is allowed to be serious in his bid for presidency, and BLM "activists" hijacking Sanders speech screams of degeneracy.
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>>60987413
https://books.google.com/books?id=tr__v8xcjY0C&pg=PA243&lpg=PA243&dq=capitalist+indoctrination+in+elementary&source=bl&ots=DFRBHslxDq&sig=UviM8bqVpVgVa76qx_DZSsV_H74&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVmbWjjKrKAhUJ92MKHWfMAQYQ6AEIkwEwEw#v=onepage&q=capitalist%20indoctrination%20in%20elementary&f=false
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>>60986291
Bernie's voting record on firearms has been wholly anti-second amendment.
In his home state, he told his constituency that he won't allow the government to take their firearms, but in the last 5 years, has voted yes on every single anti-gun legislation put forth.

He's the same lying bowl of shit as every other politician out there, the fact that you and so many other kids out there have been bamboozled shows how much faith you have lost in the voting process that as soon as one man lies to you with an old smile and tells you he isn't like the rest, that's he's for you, none of you look at his voting history or what he did during office.

Campaigns are run like advertisements, and you all fell for just another shit product without reviewing it first.
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>>60985406

He likes Muslims and wants to exterminate all Christians in the name of communism. He's nothing more than an anti-white Leftist traitor.
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Trumps plan:
under $25,000/yr = $0 taxes
$250,000 and over pay more I taxes. I don't have the numbers in front of me but the first one is right. Now go look at uncle Bernice's plan and compare common sense numbers. You libs like common sense laws, right? 8^]
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>>60985406
Fuck off you kike reddit shill.
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>>60987484
>Literally communist Jew candidate
Nope, won't send you to die for Israel or confiscate your wealth!

>Literally candidate who stands up in front of a room full of Jews and says "You're not going to vote for me anyway, and I'm making fun of you to my face, but I'll still get you to laugh and clap for me anyway"
...uhhhh its da jooooos!
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>>60986291
He doesn't understand basic economics. A house loan is secured by the house and a student loan is unsecured, hence higher interest rates. Every Bernie Sanders fan is a fucking dumbass.
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>>60985406
He's a communist jew.
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>>60987512
>The U.S. government's total revenue is estimated to be $3.525 trillion for Fiscal Year 2016
Medicare and unemployment were more than double the contribution of corporate taxes, despite corporations taking in drastically larger amounts of money than the entire working/middle classes combined.

http://useconomy.about.com/od/fiscalpolicy/p/Budget_Income.htm
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>>60987579
>everybody who disagrees with me is a cultist!
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>>60987732
>hurr durr I should pay 0,05% interest for my liberla arts degree. What security ? I go to college I will totally earn 300k. Your money is safe
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>>60985406 (OP)
He's a socialist jew who endlessly panders to minorities and has already submitted to Hillary. Exactly what is there to like about him?

>inb4 DUDE WEED 420 BLAZE IT FAGGOT
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>>60987918
>implying anyone in American politics knows anything about history outside the States
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>>60987732
>student loans
>unsecured

kek
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There was a thread about bernies tax plan yesterday from his own website. God the laughs we had at his ideas and people defending him. Good times
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>>60987561
Popular vote doesn't determine the democratic nomination like it does with republicans.

After the democrats lost to Reagan, they put in place a system called super delegates that the entire democrat establishment can force a candidate to be nominated no matter the will of the voting public.

Hillary Clinton essentially has all the super delegates she needs, this is a sham election.
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>>60985406
>He's the first poltician, probably in decades, to run an honest campaign
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>>60987561
I bet you rub your nipples and tease your anus and say hmmmmm when you look at "data" like that don't you?
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>>60988044
Exactly how is a student loan secured, there is literally nothing to take from a college kid that has a useless degree in African Studies or some gay shit and works at McDonalds or lives in his mother's basement doing nothing all day.
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>>60988073

It'll be Bernie vs Trump. Delusional faggots thinks it'll be Hillary.
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>>60988329
By federal law. They don't care if there's anything left to take or not. That's why they make these laws to ensure that they can force other people around when the music stops.
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>>60985406
This is the year America chooses someone who isn't a career politician - we're sick of them.

Bernie is a career politician.

/thread
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>>60985406

He can't even handle BLM protesters, let alone the Middle East or China.
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>>60988718
He can't even handle Hillary when they put O'who on stage to make it look staged and Hillary pulled a "sorry I shit my pants" gag on him.

He and his voters might have good intentions but what the everlasting fuck are these people thinking?
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I thought Sanders was pretty cool but when he started giving in to that SJW bullshit I lost all respect for him.
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Because we want ACTUAL change this time. Not a politician who's been bought by multiple parties who will just benignly dance at the edge of his money leash for his presidency.

Donald Trump is declaring ACTUAL changes and is laying out all his cards on the table for everyone to see that it's not just lies and pandering promises, that it's realistic and doable.
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>>60985406
Literally none of what you said is true. You need to do more research.
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>>60988549
The point however is that it's logical that taking a unsecured loan(like college shekels, debt collectors have nothing to take if the person fail to pay ) is alot more expensive then taking a secured loan(on a car or house, which can be taken if a person fails to pay), the fact that Bernie doesn't seem to understand that means that he either retarded or a retarded liar.
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How much they paying you to shit post? There are plenty of message boards where you can promote Sanders. Check out reddit or Facebook.
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>>60985406
I still like Trumps tax plan over Sanders as a middle ($75k a year) class autoworker that lives in a suburban area.
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>>60987484
How are the state's going to come up with the 33% to pay for education? They already cut back on it every year.
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>>60985406

He panders to his entire base, except white males.
Literally I watched a rally. He pandered to blacks. Hispanics. Women. Immigrants. Basically told men they needed to accept that stuff like the wage gap needs fixing.

Well, the wage gap doesn't exist. And I don't think he's a strong leader.
I think he's a very ingrained politician and Trump is something fresh. I want someone who wants what's best for America, and not for his polls, votes, etc.

He's admitted he wants to cut the military and will only use it as a last resort. So basically he's OK negotiating with terrorists like ISIS.

Climate change is not a real thing. He wants to get rid of middle class America with 90% taxes that will also send all the corporations abroad.
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>>60985406
Yeah. None of that is true OP. One hopes that you are a rusemaster, and not sincere in these untruths.
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>>60985406
He's economically illiterate.
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>Honest campaign
Kek he repeats a even shorter list of talking points over and over. The fact anyone takes him seriously is amazing to me.


>Well he did say muh top 1% of 1% over and over
Anyone who backs BLM is not honest btw. If you back bernie you are a cuckold
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Because /pol/ told me to elect a meme
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>>60985406
Because he runs on the platform that if we just tax muh 1% to fuck we can all live like kings on the government dole.
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To all the retarded cucks who think taxes on the rich will cause all the rich to leave.. I have one thing for you, consumerism. The rich won't simply just move all the way over to some other place and leave all of their assets in America.... Your actually retarded if you believe that, there is no market larger than America for them to sell their shit to. Where tf would they even go? Name one place in Europe that would be better? Not the U.K, not Sweden for sure, not Switzerland, Not Germany, Not France.... So you'd suggest they move all fucks over to Ahu Dubai? In arabic cuck land? Or South Korea? Topkek. It's literally impossible to ditch America, unless they want to ditch their wealth as well..
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>>60987375
I will be taxed more. My quality of life will go down. The 10 dollar an hour baby sitters I get now will be 20 or so. All goods will go up, costing me more. What reason does a company have to start handing more money they don't have? I have a very large family farm coming my way, 500 acres, cattle, and equipment. Bernie would love to get his hands on that inheritance.
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Bernie Sanders is not running an honest campaign.

1) His pathetic pandering to minorities with blacklivesmatter, allowing them to take over his stage, constant talk about lowering amount of people in prisons, institutionalized racism. The lack of want to stop illegal immigration.

It is obvious the pandering for votes he is doing. Yet he lives in a rich white community in one of the whitest states in the country and also lived in Israel a racist Jewish state.

2) His phony anti-war and lack of foreign policy, he has flip flopped on and his zionism when he was questions about his support of Israel he yelled at a guy to shut up, he wants to keep sending billions of dollars to Israel and Saudi Arabia, wants Assad out and supports what Obama is doing.

3) Him being caught taking funds from his donors.

4) His inability to call out Clinton because he tries to act like he runs a clean campaign but him calling out Trump repeatedly suggests that Sanders is nothing more then a Hilary plant meant to get OWS and BLM to vote for Hilary when he doesn't win the primaries.
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>>60985406
>What is your dislike or distrust of Bernie Sanders?

His tax plan is ass (and will be fucked in the ass by congress), he siphons money from his campaign, gets knocked off his stage by BLM, is Jeb-tier when it comes to immigration problems, refuses to acknowledge ACA is horribly implemented and has offered nothing to fix it besides crying about republicans, his shills are obnoxious (although I guess we're even there :----DD).

Basically, the only things I like about him are that he's not a complete gun-grabber like your usual democrat, doesn't take major corperate funding, he cares about the environment, and that he's not Hillary. All of those, except for the environment (and even then the EPA needs to fucking sort themselves after destroying two fucking rivers) Trump does better.

tl;dr if you want me to vote dem, you should've gotten Jim Webb.
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Trump is a piece of shit who will bring sure destruction to our beautiful continent. You must elect Bernie so we can eliminate the white race by 2100, and have true equality. I for one, am sick of rich whites owning everything, like, I want some too.
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>>60990402
Oh yeah and he wants to stick it to the banks. That's neat I guess. Again though, Trump's plan to make banks get their act together sounds far more plausible rather than something out of an occupy wall street manifesto.
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>>60985406
>dislike or distrust
>politician

Make sense now?
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>>60987927
No, that's just an example of what I've been saying.

When I go about my life there's people I disagree with constantly. There's people saying they like McDonalds and people saying they hate McDonalds. There's people saying we should reduce taxes and people saying we should keep taxes as they are.

It should be obvious to you that there's constantly people I disagree with about absolutely anything - also on the political Right.

What you're doing is basically a straw man. The situation is that I've reached a conclusion (left-wingers are cultist) based on a lifelong assessment (the process to reach the conclusion).

You straw-man this by replacing the process to reach the conclusion by some kind of derpy retard process - "anyone I disagree with". This in order to paint the result as unreasonable. If the process to reach a result can be attacked as utterly brainless, the result itself lacks credibility.

All you're doing here is demonstrate precisely what I have been saying. You are adding to the 99.9% - providing further support. Even when i have literally explained this very clearly and posed a clear challenge, you cannot help yourself, you're incapable of NOT acting that way.
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>>60985406
> He's the first poltician, probably in decades, to run an honest campaign. Not funded by corporations.

Nice meme. Ron Paul did this in 1988, 2008 and 2012. Liberals refused to admit that Paul was anti-establishment. Libcucks still won't admit it. Its fucking astounding how much time I had to spend convincing people that Ron Paul wasn't establishment. In reality Ron Paul's career long fight against our banking system dwarfs Bernie.

So why don't I like Bernie? Just because his heart is in the right place doesn't mean he is right. His understanding of the banking system is laughable at times. He doesn't have any understanding as to WHY or HOW things got to the way they are. Instead he just screams "capitalism 1% billionaire class!". Do yourself a favor and look up Paul talking about banks. He will actually talk in specifics about how everything is so fucked. Sanders is a talking head, nothing more. He is absolutley clueless.
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>>60989337
I haven't actually listened to Bernie go into any detail about anything since the housing blowout, and it didn't exactly leave me with the impression that he or his audience would know what a secured loan is back then or before hand.

I'm not going to call him an outright liar over it. He's doing a good job winning the hearts of people who are well-intentioned, and maybe they'll want to use it as a stepping stone to learn more. I'd say the exact same thing about the Trump strategy.
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>>60985406

Because he is a kike you nigger.
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>>60986454
>>60986619
>>60987135
>>60988365

This! Come on fellow /Pol/acks, let's all support bernie so we can stop Hillary! I mean billionaire libertarian, socialist who blames the nation's problems on billionaires, it's basically the same thing!

We all know in how much danger Trump is of being stumped by that cuck nigger kike Hillary, all us trump supporters had better support hillary just in case!

Cuck. Jew. Nigger.
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>>60990865

Support bernie, I mean! He's definitely not going to win anyway, so we should all push for him to be the democratic nominee!
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Didn't this faggot tank the audit the fed bill then had the audacity to steal Ron Paul's memes?
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>>60986291


https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

Educate yourself. I'll bet you don't know what any candidates ACTUAL positions are except what you read on twitter lol.
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But I want Islam as an entire religion to be demonized, it's as simple as that.
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I understand that Sanders is a cuck for blacks and muslims etc

But I am yet to see one comprehensive response to the OP on why his economic policies are bad other than "go study economics". I'm not saying his policies are good but you are not going to make anyone switch sides unless you provide with actual arguments. That "go study economics" response is on the same level as those regressive leftards, pure emotion, 0 reason.
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>>60991069
Nobody is ever going to explain the exact economic policies.

Why not? Because the Federal Reserve is running the game, and they have the tables set up in such a way that you'll get fucked if you mention it, you'll fuck up the economy if you mention it, you'll fuck up the markets if you ever dare speak the truth, the markets will fuck up you if ever dare speak the truth, and then then they'll make money off of your stupidity anyway.
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>>60985406
If you think Bernie Sanders is honest then you are not twenty.
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>>60990981
He was redistributing the meme wealth you filthy 1%er.
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>>60990644
Ironically, I must have done this a dozen times or more.

In response to a specific question or challenge, I say something like: "Well, based on my experiences and observations throughout my life, left-wingers are shit"

And never ever have I seen anyone respond who wasn't utterly shit - they have instead climbed over themselves to confirm the impression.

There's plenty of ways to respond that aren't shit. Have never seen any left-winger pick any of them. 99.9% stands solidly.
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>>60991069

Because every time the government takes control of private businesses in the name of "The people" (or the middle class in this particular socialist's case.) millions of people get silenced and killed due to neglect, purges, and starvation.

As a member of the current "privileged class" for several reasons, being white straight cis etc, the fate of the privileged classes of the past socialist movements is very worrying: the educated in Cambodia, the wealthy in the USSR, the Jews in Germany, etc.

tl;dr socialism is the public control of property, all the power goes to the government, and there's always a 1% to blame it on. It's a bad idea that always leads to ruin.
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>>60991808
>lefty wants to know my secret conspiracy theories
Well, I guess the government isn't working retard huh?
Well, I guess the unions aren't working retard huh?

OH SURPRISE I ACTUALLY THINK BOTH ARE A GOOD IDEA, BUT THAT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY'RE NOT WORKING YOU FUCKING RETARD
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>>60991808

what you're talking about is too extreme and it happened to my family when we had the April revolution, my family members who worked hard all their life to have wealth got it taken away in order to redestribute to the gibmedats. But that was a revolution and a huge change in the political landscape, we were in a dictatorship before. Does Sanders have specific policies about redistributing wealth that resemble what you are mentioning? I don't know but I doubt it.
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>>60985406
>First politician to run an honest campaign
>Not funded by corporations

Top kek, it's fiscally and mathematically impossible to fund his proposals without also increasing the national deficit. Instead of being endorsed by corporations he is endorsed and financed by corrupt unions.

Trump is better on both of those fronts. He's funded by HIMSELF, owes nobody anything after he's elected, and his proposals are designed to better balance the budget, at least in relation to Sanders who is absolutely delusional.
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https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

People unironically want this to be president?
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>>60985406
He is a communist kike who wants to take money and guns away from me while destroying the country and our position in the world.
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>>60991052
This. Tolerance was INVENTED in Germany to put an end to the Thirty Years War between Protestants and Catholics. The extent of it was an agreement to stop killing each other and live next to each other peacefully, no need to be friendly, just don't kill.

Muslims can't even do fucking that. So they shouldn't get tolerance.
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>>60990787
My original comment traces back to a twitter comment which Bernie made >>60987732
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>>60992517

He's an admitted socialist, and actively working towards disempowering the rich. Hitler never got up on a podium and said "Hey, you know what would be keks, let's blame our problems on the jews, take their stuff, and burn six gorillion of them in furnaces." He talked about how their profiteering had caused The Great War, how the plight and poverty of the common German was caused by the elite bankers and landlords and merchants.
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Former lefty lib here:

Sanders doesn't recognize the danger posed to the health of our nation by SJW PC culture. Instead he embraces it. The death of identity politics is my number one issue. Any candidate that furthers the SJW cause is unworthy of my vote.
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An honest campaign?

This is the guy who vilifies white rich people like the Walton family or the Koch brothers and when asked about Jewish democrat billionaires who run & fund entire political movements worldwide, like Soros and Tom Steyer, his reply is "false equivalence".

If you think a socialist is running an "honest campaign" you need to read a book nigger.
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>>60992834
How does that solve anything? Is he pointing out that if we're going to argue about interest rates in the first place, then we should explain how they work and why we should focus on them at an international level?

No. It just makes poor people fight with each other over things that won't make any difference. It's what you'd call "agitation propaganda" if you were actually trained in these methods.
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>>60987597
Speaking of Degeneracy, did that Poci guy ever have good reason for rolling around Greece in a stolen Benz?
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>>60986173
>addressing climate change is pointless with China around
I hate this meme.

While China does produce more greenhouse gases than the US, the per capita rate is much higher in the US and China is investing heavily in green technology.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33143176
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His honesty is the problem.

He honestly wants to turn the US into a European style redistributive capitalist state.

It will be almost impossible to build wealth at that point. The classes will be nearly set in stone.
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>>60985406
literally a communist jew there is nothing trustworthy in that.
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>>60985406
He has a very skewed view on economics, and doesn't see/ignores the fact that his proposed tax plans are not feasible in the long term.

Trump, on the other hand, is a business man who won't take our guns, will destroy ISIS, and rightfully ignores climate change while simultaneously considering cleaner energy alternatives.

He is literally the perfect man, and I would suck his dick if given the chance.
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>>60986723
It was actually 30k over two years, so they were paid 15k a year for the campaign.

Lol. Don't try to give reason here, just meme and enjoy friend.
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>>60985406
>Honest campaign
You dropped the bait nuke too early
saged
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>>60985406
Bernie is a Jew and will take advantage of whatever memes he can to get into office.

Trump doesn't give a fuck, and only uses memes to insult people (like any sane person should).
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>>60993075

literary
6 gorrilions

I know this, its them obsessed with numbers especially '6' kike magic
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>>60985406
>voting for an actual avowed jew
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>>60986454

Pretty much this DESU faŠ¼
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>>60988066
but does trump have a real chance against hillary?
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>>60985406
DAILY REMINDER THAT PAID BERNIE SHILLS OPERATE ON /POL/

DAILY REMINDER THAT THEY ARE PAID FOR EVERY "SUCCESSFUL" BERNIE THREAD

DAILY REMINDER TO IGNORE AND HIDE ALL BERNIE THREADS

EMOTION TRUMPS ANALOGY
ANALOGY TRUMPS REASON
REASON TRUMPS NOTHING
AND NOTHING TRUMPS TRUMP.
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>>60985406
40 year politician. Same old shit, no thanks.
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Fuck you Bernie, carried interest is not a loophole, capital gains is not a loophole.

REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>60993318

>per capital

Who produces more? The US or China?

Also, a committment to clean energy is pointless if China is the one building the green products. Kind of like when they built those Prius batteries that let everyone in the US feel so good about themselves, but absolutely fucked the area around the factory that made them.
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>>60993757

I hear you man, and I get what you're saying, but I like to debate them anyway. I know the preachy little assholes are just here to upgrade us into more of them, but no matter why they are here I figure some of them will soak up the red pill.
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>>60985406
>Not funded by corporations
Hate this statement. Like Unions are any better.
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>>60986936
literally all government paid teachers are leftists
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I'm also a Sandman supporter, but here goes.

>He's the first poltician, probably in decades, to run an honest campaign.
Trump lies a lot according to politifact, but the campaign itself is honest in that it's about pandering to people to get votes to get elected, instead of pandering to special interests to get money to run ads to get elected. Strictly on the campaign-management side, Bernie and Trump are running the same campaign except Trump is throwing in his own fortune as well.
>Not funded by corporations
Neither is Trump, see above, except his own (which is essentially himself)
>And he doesn't want to take your guns away.
Neither does Trump, big second amendment fan
>And he will deal with ISIS without demonizing an entire religion
Maybe it should be demonized? Maybe the approach of just closing your eyes to the horrors incurred DIRECTLY by Islam isn't working? Multiple instances of this in Europe, fewer in the USA but we have (at least now) a smaller Muslim population per capita. Maybe if the USA took a world leadership role in addressing the many problems that are associated with Islam itself, we can encourage change from within, such that we're OK with bringing in Muslims because we no longer have perfectly valid concerns about the safety of doing so.
>And he has a plan for climate change
Got me there
>And he wants make MIDDLE CLASS America great again
Trump wants to make ALL of America great again, what's wrong with improving the lives of lower-class and upper-class, as well as middle-class people? Are you unironically saying that you want middle-class lives to improve while lower- and upper-class standards of living decline? What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you retarded or something?
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>>60985406
my only beef with sanders is his position on gun control. if he didn't go full retard on gun control, then he'd have my vote.

trump is getting my vote only because of his position on the 2nd amendment.
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>>60993467
nice thumbnail fuckface
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>>60994334
>Lies a lot according to politifact
Top kek, you do know that politifact is a shill for the democrat party right?

>Plan for climate change
The climate change phenomenon is nothing new, climate is constantly changing, we are at a time in history which is not the warmest and in fact is semi-cool in camparison. Scale the graph for global temperature back to the Roman days and the line of best fit in that graph is in a downward trend. All the graphs that leftists use start at the end of the Little Ice Age in order to support their opinion but conveniently leave out the fact that if you scale the trend back further in time, it is a downward trend. Booms in civilization correlate to periods of warmer temperatures, while cooler temperatures result in starvation and dark ages. CO2 is nowhere near as high as it has been in the past, shit is constantly changing and we are nowhere near the maximum amount of CO2 our planet has had in it's atmosphere.

>Not funded by corporations
Bernie is funded by unions which are arguably worse than corporations

Everything else I agree with you though.
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>>60985406
>You should like Bernie because:
>[unsubstantiated feel-good drivel]
That's why.
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>>60987598

better to be educated and encouraged to support capitalism, a system we no longer have, but DID work, than brainwashing people with commie filth like puppets such as you would have our children be subjected to. More than we already are that is.
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We generate enough wealth collectively as a country for Americans to earn decent livings. We generate enough wealth for the most important social programs to exist. However, there's a view in this country that freedom is somehow relevant to a laissez faire economic system. Unfortunately money and power are synonymous. When a handful of people control a large amount of wealth, they become much more powerful than the rest of the country. So rather than have a strong military, healthy infrastructure, health care for everyone, schools, firefighters, green energy, etc. People would rather vote for a candidate that guarantees one day "if" they become rich, they won't have to pay that much of their money for programs they don't need. It's all about looking out for number one. No one cares where the next man's meal is coming from as long as there's food on their own table.

The far left demonizes the rich as the root of the problems in this country and the far right demonize the government. Economic crashes are caused by bad practices by big business. Even when the country had a huge spike in unemployment, the richest Americans saw no real impact. As the rich become more powerful, buy more politicians, and even run for office themselves (Trump) this trend of a lower standard of living for the average American will increase. People are now realizing this, and that's why a candidate like Bernie Sanders has broken out to the mainstream. Even if he doesn't get elected, his policies are resonating with the American people.
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>>60985406
>And he doesn't want to take your guns away

False claim. Proof:

http://truthinmedia.com/bernie-sanders-calls-for-sweeping-gun-ban-that-would-outlaw-all-self-defense-firearms/

You got OWNED, son. Give it up. Sanders is a lunatic.
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>>60993318
>Green technology

Well memed.

Recycling is the only "green" method of technology, but "it's too expensive". Every other "green" technology is a future disaster instead of an immediate one.

Sure, we don't care now, but if we keep supporting nuclear we're going to ruin the ecosystem. Nuclear failure does more harm life than an oil spill does. You simply can't clean up a nuclear disaster. You have to let the planet fix itself.

If we support drilling/fracking/wells we're going to ruin the ecosystem and geographic stability. Also it wastes precious helium.

Solar wastes a lot of space and is expensive to maintain. Currently technology is convenient, but not green and causes waste and toxicity over its lifecycle.

Wind wastes a lot of space and harms flying creatures (birds/insects/Ben Stiller/etc). Unreliable the same way Solar is with current technology.

If we support hydro we're still going to ruin the ecosystem eventually if we don't allow it to renew itself.

Fossil Fuels obviously need to go away. We're using it up faster than the planet can recycle itself. Fossil Fuels should always be a last resort, like sacrificing an animal to a god.

>>60994009
Jesus calm the fuck down Kuwait.
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>>60995794
Bernie Sanders panders to low information voters and those who think that when you manipulate the current economic system that there won't be ripples in the economy and that rich people won't take countermeasures to prevent their wealth from being stolen. Fact is whether you like it or not, taxing the super wealthy and raising corporate tax rate higher than it already is means that those rich people and corporations are going to take their businesses elsewhere and then you won't even have a fucking "muh 1%" to tax. And those "elsewhere" countries would be HAPPY to take them.

Those people take financial risks, work harder than others (typically), and if you remove some incentive for these people to do what they do, the amount of wealth that they generate as a whole, whether they pocket it or not, will drop drastically for some of the reasons I just mentioned above.
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His entire campaign is based on giving away "free" stuff
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>without demoralizing an entire religion
Islam doesn't have morals, just commandments made by a shitty pedo warlord for his followers who aim for nothing less than world domination
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>>60985406
>to run an honest campaign
flip flop flip flop
>Not funded by corporations
kek fucking liberals actually believe this
>And he doesn't want to take your guns away
doesnt matter no one will ever succeed at this, but he still would given the chance
>demonizing an entire religion
if demonizing means actually acknowledging that these people caused their own fucking problems then they deserve to be demonized
>And he wants make MIDDLE CLASS America great again
he wants to throw money at dindunuffin rayciss white cracka gimme dat welfare black americans even though these people have proven time and time again that no matter how much of a free pass you give them they'll never take it
>Like.. What's your beef? For real.
golly I cant imagine what sort of beef someone could have with a white guilt-ridden, spineless old communist
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Anti-gun
I cannot, and you shouldn't, trust someone who wishes to strip you of your rights.
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>>60996111
Every non-Trump candidate panders to low information voters who think political correctness equates intelligence.

People want Trump because they're tired of taking financial risks. Trump can afford to make a mistake.
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Bernie Sanders is against your (and mine) constitutional rights. He's stated so, and clearly stated WHICH rights he's against right now.

You should never be FOR anyone who is AGAINST any of your rights.
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>>60985406
>he doesn't want to take your guns away
Yes he does. He's said on television that he doesn't think self-defense is a valid reason to own firearms and supports an assault weapons ban. You are wrong. He might not openly support confiscation, but I guarantee you he would if it didn't mean death for his campaign.
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>>60996111

How do you propose we fix the problem? Let them stay here have their way and ruin the country, or let them do it from overseas? The economy crashed when I was in high school and to this day I see plenty of people that are unemployed and underemployed. Trickle down economics doesn't work when jobs are being shipped overseas
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I can't stand trump whatsoever but I'm still scared of the prospect of him losing because it'll do nothing but create a precedent that being loud and sticking to your convictions even when suburban white libtards scream at you that they're wrong is bad and that you only have a chance at being president if you keep your head down, act nice and quiet, and try your best not to offend anyone

to me, this election is complete ass politically, i feel like the only thing to actually bother with this time is trump winning and sending a message that offending people doesn't automatically spell doom for your campaign
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>>60986808

holy shit i will never not love poland
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>>60990977
We don't need Bernie. Trump wins either way.
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>>60985406
>Bernie Sanders
HE IS A FUCKING PERSON OF THE JEWISH FAITH

is that enough for you?
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bernie knows how money works, he only has to say the "we'll tax the 1% to pay for x" shit only because voters aren't redpilled on government spending and "the deficit" is seen as a problem
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>>60985406
He's a socialist that believes white people are inherently evil.

His only legacy if elected will be more social programs and more people on existing social programs.
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>>60990255
>what is placing your headquarters in a tax-free haven and operating out of there
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>>60986454
Fucking this. As long as shillary stays go I will consider it a win for America.
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>politi""""""""""fact""""""""""
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>>60996047
Jesus fuck this guy can't be serious
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>>60994334
please see
>>60987135
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>>60996843
Have you listened to anything Trump has said?

He is proposing that we impose tariffs on imported goods and other techniques to encourage companies to manufacture shit here in the states.

He's going to make Mexico pay for the wall through this exact thing. Trade tariffs, visa tariffs, etc.

We don't have jobs because spoiled millenials can't compete with third worlders who actually have a work ethic and will do the job for pennies on the dollar. Remove some incentive for companies to move overseas and jobs will start sprouting up here.
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>>60986808
Your country went through a lot, faggot. Shut up.
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>>60998285
>it didnt work every other time but SURELY it will work this time!!
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>>60987918
ITT
>Hurr Bernie doesn't even understand economics, what a stupid socialist hurr Trump 2016
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>>60998677
You seem to be implying that is isn't true...
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>>60998677
>Can't refute anything said, resorts to ad hominem attacks

Nice shitposting, Australia Jr.
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