If Argentina invaded the Falklands again, would the U.K's reaction resemble that of 1982?
Argentina's present day military is a shadow of what it was in 1982 and I believe Britain keeps a few submarines lurking near the islands 24/7 just in case. The Argies would never even reach the Falklands.
no, we don't have a big enough military at the moment
we'd nuke the mainland
The U.K has all the military capabilities to defeat Argentina's army in a matter of days but I'm not sure it has the political will to take decisive military action like Margaret Thatcher's Govt. did.
The situation is different now. In 1982, choosing to defend the islands was a rather bold political decision. Now, people would expect it. And like I said, there is a permanent presence of Royal Navy boats there now. Those ships would respond automatically without needing explicit orders to do so.
theres a full airbase on the islands with eurofighter and anti air defences 24/7. There were no antiair defences in the invasion and those they set up wernt ready for the beach head.
Plus 1 type 45 can track and engage more than 5 old destroyers worth of air target. It could feasibly engage the entire argentian airforce on its own
Corbyn is apparently in favour of handing the islands over to Argentina (or at least negotiating with them) so if Labour wins the next election (assuming Corbyn lasts that long as leader) then probably not
I think Cameron would probably bomb the invaders to bits but stop short of committing ground troops
Personally if it happened on my watch I'd turn Buenos Aires to glass
This was the airbase in 1982
Yeah, I seriously fucking hope that Corbyn doesn't get elected. Thankfully there's a very small chance of that actually happening, since Labour will most likely get annihilated in Scotland.
This is the modern airbase
Nice. I see President Trump is already parking a couple of his helicopters there in the lower right corner.
Believe me mate, this would be EXACTLY what the government needs right now, a major victory for the conservatives. They'd love the argentinians to invade the Falklands.
Militarily, there's a few subs and a Type 45 destroyer there with a permanent garrison of AA defences and Royal Marines. If, and that's a big if, they managed to take the islands the government would be fucking merciless with the force they sent to retake them. As I said, its a victory they need to boost their approval ratings.
There would be more leftists screaming bloody murder against the country standing up for itself but yes, Argentina would get blown the fuck out by british technology.
Though if it happens during Obama's last year he might fuck it up for everyone.
We probably wouldn't need to send a taskforce like in 1982, one SSN would sink most of the Argentine plus whatever South American country that helped them navy. Retaliation would then be carried out with cruise missiles on their mainland.
If they did anything where control of the islands was jeopardised then we would probably use a low yield nuclear warhead as a show of force.
>Retaliation would then be carried out with cruise missiles on their mainland
from the same submarine :^)
Hard to say. I guess it depends if Argentina really is white or not.
If they are white, Britain will defend it to the death.
If they aren't, Britain will apologize for enslaving the islands populations and destroying the rich native culture that existed there prior. They will then hand over the island and make a new holiday marking the event.
Dont forget in 5 years or so these will be operational. if there was a 15% change of Argentine success now when these are ready thatll be nearer 1% or less
We don't have an aircraft carrier so we have no way to defend them at that distance easily, I'm sure we would react int he same way but our potential to strike back would be non existent unless Chile/Brazil/Uruguay aided us.
by your logic you like to suck muslim dick and hate sharp object in public plases, i dont give a fuck about those islands
anyways nothing going to happen our new president love his anglo masters so relax
All those third world South American country, excluding Chile would probably aid Argentina.
We also wouldn't need to send a taskforce down, at most more nuclear attack submarines would be sent down if the garrison was in any danger of being overrun.
A photo I took in Ushuaia, Argentina.
They hate your guts, britfags.
Reagan was going to help the British if the war lasted longer. For nearly two hundred years America has followed the policy of keeping european power to it's established colonies, which the Falklands are.
Well Chile was based under Pinocchio, not sure about their current leadership.
Ignoring the fact the islands were British before Argentina was a glint in a Spanish mans eye, possession is 9/10 of the law. Regardless of what Argentine yokels write on their signs. Also they have kind of fucked it since the invasion for any chance of a peaceful transition.
they played the game, they failed. Now they are just butt hurt.
>yield to US interests
No. Normally ill admit America clicks its finger and we jump, but the public would be angry at us allowing British citizens to be occupied by a foreign power.
honestly the sheer amount of propaganda about the islands in Argentina is one of the reasons why we are not letting them have the islands as if we give them over the safety of the Falkland islanders will be in question as nationalist hooligans may seek to dislocate the 'invaders' who are currently residing there and have done so for a good couple of hundred years.
>You missed the point.
yes i think i did
posting a picture of a girl with big boobies as compensation
I would honestly nuke Argentina if they violated our sovereignty, I'd probably get Britain exiled from the international community for doing it but if questioned I'd cite pearl harbour.
I'm sure President Trump would agree with the decision, anyway.
A good death, better then a breakers yard...
I believe there are Eurofighters detached to the islands.
?Unsure on the type/numbers of munitions for them, but we're a lot more prepared than before.
OFC a full scale naval landing would breach them, but when we get the P-8 Poseidon Maritime Patrol aircraft we will at least be able to see them coming, not to mention our submarines.
Hopefully it won't happen again, prevention is better than the cure and all that shit.
They are seriously clutching their pearls over the "civilian casualties" of airstrikes against ISIS, which seems to consist of about a dozen British planes. They will probably kill more goats than Syrians or even ISIS targets, though I suppose that would outrage some segments of British society even more.
I get the sense that if Britain were attacked directly, 30% of the populace would oppose retaliation on principle because "WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER." That's a shockingly high number.
>so if Labour wins the next election
>(assuming Corbyn lasts that long...)
Nigga, what you smoking. They are completely unelectable.
And luckily you don't make policy.
We wouldn't even need a task force to retake it. They would never be able to take the islands in a million years with the armament that is in place down there now, both in terms of personnel and equipment.
Exactly, and yet your administration in 1982 dithered and bitched amongst each other for weeks over whose side to take. Cheers for that.
And a legitimate act of war it was, too.
It's ashamed a mighty Pearl Harbor survivor ended its days being crewed by Argies.
Try somewhere else. It's pretty miserable.
We need the Falklands for strategic sheep herding purposes
Fuck off you pesky argies
That's because British people are pacifists on the offense but jingoists on the defense, especially the falklands, they could take the midlands and nobody would care but the falklands are considered the holy land.
Hawaii has several orders of magnitude more value than the Falklamds. It's really about national pride. Despite claims over and over again that this will be the year of oil profits in the Falkands, it never happens. The UK should just put them up for sale. If Argentina wants them, they can buy them. If not, Bolivia would love to have a blue water navy again. Part of the money from the sale could be used to relocate any of the current inhabitants who don't want to live under the new country's rule.
>we have bigger problems to care about than your islands.
Daily reminder that right NOW pic related is legal currency in Argentina.
These alliances are more substantial then any relationships we have in Europe or elsewhere. Even the US, they are older.
But fighting would mean you can't be a mediator in seeking a non-violent solution.
Thing is, it would be political suicide now to even discuss the idea of giving them to Argentina. The ultimate irony is that Argentina in all likelihood would have been handed them by 1990 had they not invaded, which had the effect of ensuring they would never be able to claim them.
That bill was made by the former government, who happens to be liberal and populist. Same with that stupid cartoon no one watched. No one (and I mean working class, middle class and rich people), other than libtards and poor people, care about your stupid islands.
Corbyn will never get in precisely because of this issue, this is how the British public think.
>he sympathises with Hezbollah
Pfft, not a problem.
>he wants to give Norn Iron back to Ireland
And? We don't need that reactionary chunk of ireland
>he wants to open negotiations on the falklands
NO SURRENDER, FUCK THAT CUNT, CORBYN MUST DIE.
Most of the electorate still remember the falklands war, so when Corbyn even brings the falklands into question he's committing electoral suicide.
Patience isn't something military juntas are known for. If they had been handed over before the invasion, I bet most Argentinians would have never thought about them again. They really are mostly worthless clay and waters.
>Corbyn in charge of winning anything
MI6 planted them there to buy the Tories another 4 years at least
there's a storm coming to Europe soon, the United Kingdom can't afford to have a leftist retard as the man in charge
We had 22 Royal Marines stationed on the Falklands in 1982 who managed to put up a fight inflicting casualties on the swarms of Argies before surrendering.
We now have well over 1000 personnel and a good array of hardware, Argies know they would start a full blown war if they attacked the Falklands, which would basically require carpet bombing the islands.
pretty much, the only people who wouldnt advocate a united Ireland are business interests with a vested interest in separation, the families of those who died in the conflict and the unionists who hate the English but hate Catholics more. We literally can't even given Northern Ireland away until the people vote - self determination just like the Falklands. It works both ways.
That being said N.Ireland has vital shipbuilding and aerospace factories and has some pretty switched on people so it would be a loss to the UK as a whole and a gain for the republic.
'I don't understand why the fuck anyone would want cold, raining, Falklands when you have one of the most breathtaking beautiful places on the planet (Patagonia).
Falklands is only nice to live in, if you are a penguin or a sheep.
ayy lmao, loving this meme :)
I would love to destroy those fucking argentinians and retake patagonia, that shit was ours before they stabbed us in the back.
Our Leopard IIs would wreck their shitty russian scraps
>tfw you will never send your nuclear V-Bomber force to Ascension Island...
It's worth noting we beat the Argentinians single-handedly. No NATO, no americans, none of this coalition bullshit. It was a strong victory for us, because it proved that we could still go to war and actually win sometimes. And I don't think anybody else was particularly interested in two nations haggling over some rocks which are of barely any economic benefit whatsoever apart from maybe a popular tourist spot for welsh sheepshaggers.
Here's the wikipedia article about it.
t. Sinn Fein
Fuck off, paddy, you're not getting them back.
The reking only goes one way my argie friend xD
...and now awaiting cucks pretending that American and French intelligence which made almost literally no difference to the prosecution and outcome of the war means that we didn't.
>tfw you work for the DWP
>tfw it's now a legal requirement to be s British citizen and a resident for a Continous period of 3 years to get any kind of benefit
>the only exception is benefits given to 'refugees'
>it's £50 a week
BASED IAN DUNCAN SMITH
Its north Atlantic and tbhfam they did.
>France gave the exocets codes on the Argie missiles so we could track them
>US gave sattilete support for ground operations
>Various other intelligence help we'll prolly never hear about for another 40 years. Such as buying all the Exocets from the arms markets etc.
Well first off you'd have this guy accusing the government of warcrimes, probably say the Falklands is their 'culture' and that we're racist for responding to an invasion.
And all his degenerate lefty follows will nod their heads and take to twitter.
It's actually a really good job. The civil service really looks after its employees.
Plus, I don't answer phones or work in a job centre. I don't need to directly deal with any members of the public, it's brilliant.
You would not believe how comfortable my chair is.
>The ultimate irony is that Argentina in all likelihood would have been handed them by 1990 had they not invaded, which had the effect of ensuring they would never be able to claim them.
They made a gamble and lost. Part of the problem is that tons of other countries had done something similar and won. Falkands is a probably the only major overseas colonial-era land that wasn't re-annexed successfully by force.
>argentina invades falklands 1982
>bloomin heck, bring't rifle from mantle, am gunna go darnt empees arse an see if a can elp
>argentina invades falklands 2016
>omg britain is still oppressing people lmao #nomorewar #free las malvinas
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The sad thing is, that will actually happen if it was 2016.
I can already see the change.org/governent petitions fly in with over half a million signatures to stop the war and give the Islands to Argentina because its the 'morally right thing to do'
>wanting to keep colonial outpost
>wanting to waste money on pointless war
I don´t think we could help in the fight, because if we move our forces from the northern border to the andes fucking peru and bolivia would invade us in a heartbeat, but we could alway help with intelligence and shit
NATO is a defence treaty for Europe, it doesn't give a toss if a member is squabbling over some rocks in a distant ocean. Why bother sending troops to fight on a members' behalf when all they're really doing is fighting a war for them.
Britbros what do when Argies bring Putin with them?
>The most patriotic places in Britain are some shitty rainy isles near Argentina and Northern Ireland
Fuck this country.
>vote farage into power
>glorious trump/farage alliance
>Anglo empire rules world for rest of time
We would probably want to respond the same way, but right now we dont even have the capacity to do so.
Our navy is not what it used to be in the 80s, it has been cut back every single year, both in personell and in ordnance / vehicles / vessels.
Only over the last 5 years have the government started constructing new carriers but they aren't operational yet.
The only carrier we have is shared with France.
I imagine another occupation by Argentina woudl last a lot, lot longer. The Falkanders would be evacuated and diplomatic discussions would go on for years to the point where they would basically be a ceremonial kind of thing, the government would pretend that they really want to get them back and continue giving stern speeches and sending harshly written letters to the Argentine embassy until the media loses interest and they can sweep it under the rug.
That said, the Argentine military is not what it used to be either, well actually, it is what it used to be, it is exactly what it used to be. The same ships. The same ordnance and for the most part, the same aircraft and weapons systems. They are a soviet era military.
...and also all of the MOD-issued equipment stolen and flogged off within the Armed Forces for the next 30 years.
>"RQ, there seems there's some irregularities with equipment on the inventory and what we actually have."
>"Ah, yes, sir. It was lost on the Arctic Conveyor."
true i mean it's not like the Argentinians were literal manlet peasants with 40 year old rifles or anything truly scary like that
Ive just bought this guys book which ill read tonight but i disagree I think its naive to say its pointless or a colonial outpost. Sure IT IS, but there are resources there, the democratic will of the people who live there, the strongest military base in the south Atlantic crucial to the west in any activities in the future resource wars over the Antarctic. Its also a great listening station and symbol of British power. It may not mean much to you or I and indeed might not be great reasons but they are reasons and they do matter in different degrees to different people.
>all those serviceman with FALs stashed under their floorboards for the day of the rope
Father, reforge the Empire. It is the only hope.
We shall arm them and they may have Argentina if they want it.
Do you want it Chile? We could take your country in a day and you wouldn't be able to stop us.
Remember that Argie.
Freedom that we gave to them, argie remover TOP KEK. In fact, Chile is the only country in the region that didnt want a war with us, and the only one that NEVER had war with us. They literally handed clay to us without firing a single bullet.
It's a trend all over Europe.
I couldn't believe my eyes when in the midst of Greece's worst ever migrant crisis + unemployment and social services failure people voted in an ultra-left party. Now the same happens in Spain. The UK's extreme left is Corbyn and it wouldn't suprise me if all of the airheads in this county flocked to him for his promises of increased free welfare cheques.
First impeach your cucked meme-tier prime minister.
Depends what job you do. At the moment all the plebs who answer phones only get about £16'000 a year, but they're raising it to £19'000 in the next year's budget. If you have a degree, the kind of job you'll be doing will most likely have a starting salary of close to £30'000.
There's a position called 'Decision Maker', as the name suggests they make decisions. Things like wether we should change someone's entitlement, sanction them, a whole manner of things. I'm a command manager, in charge of about 230 of those guys.
Yes they are, last year the almost invaded us "by mistake" when 20 something peruvian soldiers wandered into a minefield that peru claims is theirs.
Obviously they blamed us and proceded to ramble about triangles
It wouldn't be cost effective to remove them as the areas they've been laid aren't economically important to the islands.
Plus the islanders know where all the mines are anyway. Only an Argie would stand on one.
Yes, he is a legit cuckold.
Not even memeing, he got cucked so hard he turned gay
Is there any more of an embarrassment of a third world nation than Argentina? Their pseudo matcho bravado bs makes me chuckle. Little Willie's.
The conscripts were merely stationed around the perimeter of the island, with the regular forces stationed further inland where the bulk of the fighting happened. The conscripts only became a 'thing' because they were the first ground troops encountered, and the media went to town on it.
Look, it's straight-forward:
You failed. Tough luck.
And neither can you.
You have us confused with your German masters, you'll find it's them currently being fucked over.
We don't have Labour in power anymore and it's always amusing that your government always starts shit when we have a Conservative government in power.
You've essentially been told that if Labour was in power they'd give you the islands, a few billion pounds, a letter of apology and will take in 5 trillion shitskins as penance.
Conservatives will tell you to fuck off. It's almost as if you're a bit masochist, like you don't really want the islands, you just want to have a spanked bum.
Do you want me to spank your bum?
You could try knocking at his door sure and asking...though you may perturb his cucking activities. Otherwise you can torrent the book - then again you'd be a thief and any semblance of moral superiority is out the window. So yes it is necessary to monetarily support someone to hear their opinions as written in their book - otherwise I'm a cunt.
The point is your leader, not the Sikh.
I raise you this.
People who mass quote all posts is literally one of my fucking triggers
The only ones that fought you in land were kids and injuns, the older ones were in the navy and airforce. You said that were trainned by us and thats a lie. The ones you are mentioning were in the mainland because Chile was a bigger threat than you.
I don't know Turkey, you're the experts, you tell us?
How do you go from Ottoman empire to Muslim cockroaches within 50 years?
Spitting all over Ataturks secularist legacy and replacing it with a dictator like TURDogan?
Blame your junta for sending kids.
You should be grateful the British military was restraint and didn't just execute all combatants on your side.
>mfw the surrender list
You'll make the Italians blush.
We also have a type-44 floating in the area which can destroy all of the argentine airforce in the space of a few minutes.
Im not blaming anyone, Im stating facts, I never gave excuses, I thought that we were talking about if the lads in falklands soil were or not trained by the US. I didn't know that moving the goalpost was a national sport there.
Because the Jews are our chosen sons. They inherited all that the British Empire held dear.
Fucking with everyone.
holy shit look at that butthurt :^)
>How do you go from Ottoman empire to Muslim cockroaches within 50 years?
I love how your '''''''''argument''''''' is always calling us cockroaches
>Spitting all over Ataturks secularist legacy and replacing it with a dictator like TURDogan?
Why would we prefer a Jewish dictator instead of a Muslim leader
You gained your land in Middle East AFTER the WWI m8 desu lad
>le cockroach isis supporter meme
kek how pathetic
>I love how your '''''''''argument''''''' is always calling us cockroaches
Because you are cockroaches.. It's not a maymay or an insult. An insult would be to call your kind "human".
Oh so white, secular, anti Sharia law Ataturk is worse than Turdogan, who wants strict Sharia law, bans social media when they criticise him and generally looks like an air headed retard?
Okay, good to know.
> turkey is gud cuntry stop wit ur memes xD
What would happen if you posted this meme on 4chan?
>tfw your president gets butthurt about memes and puts people in prison
>denying you live in a cuck nation
You cannot fuck with the UK when it comes to territory
Won't even let Argentina anywhere near an island that is close to them.
fucking kek, we've cucked the whole world, everyone speaks english, follows our political system and pretty much licks our boot at every turn. To top it all off, they try to invade the islands, get BTFO and then attempt to regain control again.
When will Fagentina learn their place in the world?
Of course, the Island are settled by British people (mainly Scots) who are technically native to the islands, "Argentina" never even existed never mind ever owned those island properly and only when there very briefly between lapse in British Rule (prior to that there was on and off Spanish/french activity) did the united provinces mess around there. Prior to European discovery there was no one there.
Argentina has absolutely no legitimate claim to the islands at all, never had and never will. They are literally a proximate nation, and that's it. You may as well be saying Spain owns Portugal because they are close. Get a grip.
There is no debate, there is no negotiations.
Now now gentlemen, lets not forget who we are
Is this thread going to descend into Hilo Latino and everyone shitposts against Argentina?
This is literally true:
In 2013 there was funding for 163 days at sea for the entire argneitne fleet (43 ships), in the same year several individual Royal Navy ships spent over 200 days at sea.......Single RN ships spend more time at sea than the entire Argentine navy
Conservatives and our forces would be happy to get stuck in
Corbyn would oppose
Farage would lead the charge
>his country gets btfo'd by Atajew
>Still supports him
> who wants strict Sharia law
Also i'm not white m8 my grand-grandfather had brown eyes
Answer this question:would you support IRA or an English politician who is considered a ruthless dictator?
>You may as well be saying Spain owns Portugal because they are close.
Apparently a large number of chinese believe this.
What? Learn your history, Atacuck didn't destroy or BTFO of our country at all.
In fact he was so cucked that he surrendered all your territories to us and we gave it to the Jews just to really piss you off and for lelz.
>you're still behaving like a whiny bitch about them
>expecting a country to drop a part of its culture from one day to another
this isn't 4chan memes m8, the claim on Malvinas will stand for a long time maybe even forever until somehow Argentina gets the island. One thing is to say that the goverment won't use it as nationalist propaganda every week, but another is to think they will say hey look everyone they are British not ours so forget about it.
>If Argentina invaded the Falklands again, would the U.K's reaction resemble that of 1982?
Probably. i cant see a Conservative government ever willingly giving the Falklands away. And Even though our army has seen massive cuts im pretty sure the Argentine economy is fucking destroyed and their Army in a dismal state
unfortunately we have çomars everywhere, they are the cancer, controlling everything, shitting all over Ataturk's legacy. just nuke us. we built this country once, we could do it again and this time it would be free of çomars.
>Corbyn is apparently in favour of handing the islands over to Argentina (or at least negotiating with them)
Why? The fucking people living on the fucking islands don't want to go to the Argies.
I believe in the secularist Turkey, I do not however like the Muslim Turks who are of Arab and smell like shit.
Hahahahaha no, no bias whatsoever!
Oh and here you'll enjoy this and the south American countries will too.
Its time to leave now friends, try not to genocide too hard you trucking losers.
> In effect, Argentina's military inventory is now 30 years older while Britain's is two technical generations further on. In military terms the difference between their relative technologies is probably approaching 80-100 years, and even high numbers of low technologies are largely negated in the sort of 'winner takes all' calculation that Mount Pleasant has created around the Islands.
- Professor Michael Clarke, Director-General of RUSI
>Tells me to learn my history
>Gives an example from pre-Ataturk era
Pic related is what Turkey would look like if Ataturk didn't start independence war
Because Corbyn decided to fuck a black woman and it made his brain frazzle into loving gommunism and hating the UK.
Why else? He's a Labour man, he supports Mao Zedingdong and Stalin.
Fuck him, lel fucking senile old cunt.
Turkey is a turd under Erdogan.
Just admit it, admit it and you shall be free.
Free of his annoying, ugly pizza face and high voice and his kebap.
>the whole Malvinas shit isn't part of Argentina's culture
Fuck off, I didn't even say I give a shit about it, but I'm not going to be a total retard acting like a recently emigrated Bolivian like yourself and pretend it means nothing to Argentina as a country, get your head out of your ass and stop pretending the country ends at your front door. Fucking pretentious prick
And for the record, no I don't believe the islands are ours, and no I don't care about this kind of news
>Uses sailboats from the 1700s
>Gets cucked by Ghana
>In January 2013 the ARA Santísima Trinidad sank whilst moored in port due to lack of maintenance
Not sure why anyone listens to the Telegraph when it says the Falklands are at risk.