I noticed many people have completely false idea Poland which is promoted by polish nationalists here.
First of all Poland is ultra feminist country much more than USA and Sweden for example. Women are in chargé here and it's totally impossible to get custody if you're male. Basically in Poland children are women's property. You also have to pay child support for like 26 years compare it with 18 in USA. Not to mention family courts here are beyond crazy(vast majority of judges in poland are female) and they can for example make you pay more than you earn and if you can't you go to prison. I give up on ever having kids for this reason.
I warn all gullible male foreigers about having children with polish women you are going to get raped finacially; Polish courts are hostile as fuck to men and foreigners in particular. You will never see your kids again if she doesn't want you too.
Oh and don't polish women either polish courts will find a way to hit foreigner with alimony too.
Now cost of living is damn high in poland too but earnings are low. Prices of housing and real eastate are cosmic high often higher than in USA despite meager salaries.
Now regarding immigration. Poland obviously still isn't very attractive place to live so not many immigrants come. The reason why goverment do not want to take refugees is because we can't afford it and jews and feminists controlling polish goverment know they would be eventually killed by muslims if they let them in in large numbers.
Now regarding polish women. Polish women are huge whores I consider them poor mothers , they also often spurn and despise polish men who they consider ugly. primitive potato faced losers with small penises, no stamina and they prefer foreigners none white ones too like blacks, arabs pakis what have yea. That's why many male poles hate all immigrants since they already get cucked by them all the time when they are still in low numbers. I think women in feminized country like Poland subconciously feel shitskins have superior genes. This is part of female nature.
bolanda is shit anyway, a op to pedał
pic rel president andrzej dupa, we have also papież
there's lots of them in PiS too, you know
>it's totally impossible to get custody if you're male
a friend of mine is a recovering drug addict and an alcoholic and he has the custody over 5 children. Yes, the mother is alive.
>Polish women are huge whores
basement dwelling virgin detected
>he doesn't know about the jewish cyborg from the future
Poland has post-majority child support along with a few other countries.
That is not a feminist tenant; it's just the way family law developed over the course of centuries.
I don't believe any of your analysis on the courts forcing you to pay more than you make. That is 100% false. The United States also has debtor prison for those who continuously fail to pay child support.
>Jews control Poland
That is true.
Some of them are polonized though.
Polish Party was a funny case. There was always fight between local communists and these who come with Russia(international Jews).
Thing is later Party have a plenty of bureaucrats and technocrats and they switch to EU(when Moscow fall). They were always opportunistic.
National communist make a come back now(in disguise).
>jews doesnt control Poland
nice one goldman
Polan way of trying to keep low divorce rates because: muh catolicism and pic related:
History of his family is a little suspicious.
The forever opposition guy. High probability that he worked and still work for old Security. Controlled opposition guy(always fall).
Anecdotes mostly. Rumors. Anyway most of guys with money and influence are connected to the Party or security.
anon debil here i nie rozumiem o czym wy tu piszecie bo nie znam angielskiego
>a friend of mine is a recovering drug addict and an alcoholic and he has the custody over 5 children
In what circumstances did he get it? Polish family almost always give custody to mother(97 or 98% of mothers have custody in poland) but they are unpredictable too. So for instance they won't give custody to normal guy but on very rare occasions can give it to degenerate father without explanation.
>basement dwelling virgin detected Typical feminist shaming you seem to be a woman.
Poland needs more MGTOW. Fucking tradcucks.
I'll never marry but dissuade you against having children with polish woman many british suckers pay extraorbitat child support after polish woman fleed to poland with kids. Poland ignore Hague Convention and will refuse to return kids to the UK.
Read this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3184611/Father-tells-soldier-helped-recover-girl-ex-wife-snatched-took-Poland.html
Divorce rates in poland are growing and like over 70% are initiated by women.
Not to mention polish women almost never use hormonal contraceptives and are notorious for their pregnacy entrapment antics. It's more widespread among polish women than even in West. They know they will get custody and maintance in any case.
What makes you think I'm going to have pay 26 years of child support? Because you read about it on the internet? All of you neckbeards read too much shit online and get a distorted view of reality.
>Now cost of living is damn high in poland too but earnings are low. Prices of housing and real eastate are cosmic high often higher than in USA despite meager salaries.
HILARIOUSLY FALSE, you can buy a two bedroom flat in a medium-sized city for about $50k. In a small city it can be as low as $20k.
Warsaw is most expensive, there you would need about $100k.
So the prices are low.
However, THERE IS NO PROPERTY TAX! Cost of upkeep is ridiculously small. It's possible to pay $50/month for a 80 sq metres apartment, which includes rubbish and waste water removal.
"The White Eagle (Polish: Orzeł Biały) is the national coat of arms of Poland. It is a stylized white eagle with a golden beak and talons, and wearing a golden crown, in a red shield. The White Eagle emblem originated when Poland's legendary founder Lech saw a white eagle's nest. When he looked at the bird, a ray of sunshine from the red setting sun fell on its wings, so they appeared tipped with gold, the rest of the eagle was pure white. He was delighted and decided to settle there and placed the eagle on his emblem."
no joke, my good mate works at the italian embassy there and he told me that every month there's a couple italian morons that go to poland, fuck girls with no condom after they lie about the pill, and get trapped with child support forever and they end up having to pay them forever without even being able to see their kids (they literally don't even try to find a compromise, they just get their lawyers to send out mail, it's planned)
>implying I wont go back to poland and save all their women from the dark ones
I can change their minds(;
>In Poland women usually win custody over their children like in most civilizied countries
Oh the horror of modern feminism and jewish influence!
Exactly this is terribly scary if you lose your job during that time interest will accrue infinitely and you will go to prison. I think a bailiff can evict you out of your home too. I heard you can't go to prison for not paying child support in England is that true? However if she will flee to Poland then Polish law will be in power and you can go to prison for it in UK too.
In this case, the wife pulled a number out of her ass and the judge believed her for no reason. However, there were other cases where the court used 'arguments' like 'you have the potential to earn more, so I'm going to set payments based on that potential'.
Poland has a very feminist law system, that's unfortunately true.
Well women always get custody in the so called civilized coutries because in such countries much higher women have higher education than men thus they took over family courts. The reason why more of them have higher education is because average wman is far richer than average men due to things like child support , prostitution, sponsoring, marrying rich sucker etc therefore they can afford to study more. You can see it in Ukraine best where the majority of ukrainian men are too poor to pay entrance fee to the nightclub hence in nightclubs you see ukrainian women and foreign men mostly.
>mfw not a man on this planet dead or alive can beat me in any conditions, me tied to a tree and them with a nuclear warhead, I will win. Its okay. Not everyone is born a badass. 150 pounds yeah, but that just makes it more embarrassing for you. Not me.
Everybody is bitching about Poland but when your foreign ministers starts talking about gay bicycle drivers and vegans right away you know that Poland did nothing wrong.
I have to stick with my horrible government and so does Poland when they elected them democratically.
As long as we are good goyim everything is fine but the moment someone flips the script the fucking leftists are going on a rampage
Poland is ruled by women.
That is true but you miss one thing.
The girls or young girls are not in charge but their mothers are.
Mother-in-laws rule. Poland is country ruled by old women. They use proxies like their sons, brothers, husbands or lovers. That was is and probably be a thing. Always.
That is the biggest difference with the west.
Poland isn't any hope for anybody. I think in fact that Poland is a clear proof white race is inferior to many other races. Majority white and suck much more than many majority none white countries or contries with big minorities.
Polish women are really whores, Im speaking of experience.
Every year I go to that woodstock festival and damn the girls are cockthirsty for some german dick.
Tons of my friends nailed girls in our tents although they had boyfriends and such
Girls who go to festivals like Woodstock are mostly sluts.
Not smart to think they're representative of a wider population.
Having said that, if you're from a country deemed rich obviously picking up is going to be much easier.
Yea many polish women want to get pregnant with rich foreigner even if e isn't really rich and is just from richer country. They do it to also marry him and get citizenship of that country after this they can divorce him.
Still if you are darkskinned in poland they will fuck out of lust.
Compared to what?
There are many problems, mostly with repressive laws (both socially and economically, like high taxes). Sadly few countries are better, in fact the overwhelming majority is much worse. Not much freedom left anywhere.
For a smart person, Poland is one of the best countries in Europe to live.
Yes in poland how high your child support/alimony will be is not based on your actual earnings but on so called ''możliwości zarobkowe'' ergo court can make you pay more than you earn. I heard about a guy who earned 750zł netto while court ordered him to pay 1000zł a month.
Oh and there is also a paragraph that states child shouldn't live in worse conditions than it is accustomed to. Thus you will most likely lose house if you don't get custody and if you don't then you may be forced to pay for her rent in addition to child support.
Yes but they did polish family courts and judges are this crazy so he probably went to debtors prison.
Because, basically by definition, only a small minority is smart.
I make about $8k/month from affiliate marketing sites which mostly run itself, like a few hours a month of maintenance and some changes.
Now if you are smart and not lazy as fuck (like me) I guess moving to a place like SV to create a startup or something is a sensible thing to do. Or making cool stuff in a place like SpaceX. But emigration of this type is a ridiculously small minority.
Nice shilling Poland, but I will still come to your country get Polish gf let, a nigger fuck her, raise his child, make my wife retarded feminist, vote for cuck parties in Poland. You can't hide for eternal western cuck
I forgot to mention poland has ''assumed father'' law just like USA therefore if wife cheated on you or ypu let her fuck niggers and she got pregnant and has a child with someone else you still have to pay child support because you took on father's role. Shitload of polish ''fathers'' pay child support on not their biological children.
I think France may be even worse since paternity tests are illegal. According to wikipedia paternity tests are also illegal in Germany is that true then how father or rather sucker who is supposed to pay is determined?
Oh so that's France only' I read on reddit but cannot find this now about a white american guy who was sued in France for child support for a half black kid who obviously wasn't his and judge ordered him to pay child support without any proof it's his. He escaped to USA but because he lived in USA state that doesn't respect international child support(apparently some states don't but most do) he was saved. So it seems in France since paternoty testing is illegal a woman can sue any random man for child support and he has to pay for nigger kids. Or was that because he was a foreigner and they don't treat local men this harsh? How does it work in France.
Still Poland numer 3 most misandrist country in the world.
India has extremely misandrist laws but children conceived out of wedlock aren't eligible for child support however I heard about a case in india when judge ordered a man with aids stop taking hiv medication to pay alimony or child support I'm not sure basically a death sentence. I Wonder if polish family courts woud order a guy with hiv pay so high child support that he can't afford drugs but knowing polish courts anything is possible.
Indian marriage laws
Top misondrit countries probably
Indian marriage laws
Following are some of the most misused women centric laws.
IPC 498a - The most feared law for any guy in Indian matrimony is 498a. Though this law is supposed to address civil issues, it has criminal law like provisions for arrest. Merely on verbal complaint of the wife, entire family of the groom, his relatives etc and whosoever the bride names in the police complaint are arrested. No thought is given to checking whether the person accused can really do any harm to the bride. (Even a two month new born had to be taken to police when named in 498a complaint). This law has become the weapon of choice for greedy girls who become bride just for making money from the groom. They demand huge amount to stop pursuing the case.
Domestic Violence act - Apart from pressurizing groom's family by getting them arrested Domestic Violence act is used by the brides for dual purpose. First rob groom’s family of their own home and second to get monthly extortion money from groom. To do this the bride simply mentions in court that she does not have adequate monetary resources to survive and no place to live. (She hides her income as well as her share in her parental home and property). So relying on her testimony the court generally passes interim maintenance (husband to pay monthly amount
I meant misandrist.
(husband to pay monthly amount to wife till the final court order) and also gives residence order that means the bride should be provided residence. Mostly this residence is the place where the bride last lived with the groom. In many cases the grooms family becomes homeless, as along with residence order the bride also gets protection order issued to keep the grooms family out of their own home.
Dowry prohibition act - under this act, bride gets the groom’s family arrested by giving a complaint to police that they had demanded dowry. Though, no demand may have been raised by groom's side. But the bride successfully shows all the gifts given by her family as dowry, just to create additional fear in mind of groom's family to increase extortion risk.
IPC 406 - This law for criminal breach of trust is used to show that the belongings of bride (Also called streedhan) were forcibly/illegally taken away by the groom’s family. This creates one more excuse for the girl to get the groom's family arrested. To use this law, many brides take away their belongings like jewelry etc with them, but still claim that everything is still with the groom.
The family of groom is put under further pressure by filing multiple maintenance cases under CrPC 125, Sec 22 of DV act plus additional maintenance as per various marriage laws specific to the religion of the couple (India has multiple marriage acts depending on religion etc viz Hindu Marriage act , special marriage act, Muslim law etc. Hindu men face highest risk when they marry as Hindu laws have been continuously been amended to make them highly anti male).
The result is that the groom’s family spends money on lawyer to fight their case. Loses money, loses time in attending cases purposely filed at place that is convenient for the bride, like nearby paternal home or office but not convenient for the groom. Plus pay maintenance to the wife who uses the same money to pay her lawyer and manage her expenses. One important thing to note here is that you will have to pay maintenance to the bride that helps her live the same standard of life before she ditched you. Believe me this amount at many times is very high.
If the groom’s family still has faith left in the system the wife files further cases like :-
IPC 377 (unnatural intercourse) Lately I have seen a rise in usage of this section by criminal women to trap innocent husband. I will elaborate on it in my future articles.
IPC 506 (criminal intimidation)
IPC 325 (intentionally causing grievous hurt),
IPC 307 (attempt to murder) This is one of the most heavily misused section in India
There are many more such sections that are filed as per the situation to make the groom pay the maximum amount.
Most of the groom’s family give up and fulfill the extortion demands of the bride at the instance of first arrest under any of the above laws. But if they resist extortion the bride files other cases in the list to break their hopes of getting justice.
This kind of criminal extortion by Indian brides have become popular due to the fact that such women rarely get punished even after being caught. In fact only 2% of cases stand in the court. But even after such high number of frivolous cases the court rarely punishes the law abusing woman. They just release groom from the charges. So risk being low and returns being high, large number of women have taken up this criminal mode of earning money.
Woman in France? What does that have to do with Poland also how paternity is determined in France if tests are illegal can she sue any random guy like this example>>60036029
Frankly I'd kill myself too if I were to lose custody for losing which I've 99% in Poland.
>I don't believe any of your analysis on the courts forcing you to pay more than you make. That is 100% false.
court tells you to pay x each month.
you earn y, after expenses you got z.
if z<x you can't pay your child support.
mother complains to court, you get a debt collector on your ass that tries to take x+interest+his fees
you loose your car, you can even loose your house so can't work anymore.
you go to jail for debts AND still have to pay then after you go out.
its everywhere in western world, in Russia too
doesnt mean feminism as it is in west EU and US where men are deprived of their other rights and are generally shat on
Russia has almost no feminism (reminder that modern feminism = radfem)
as most women are fine with more or less traditional gender roles
If goverment and courts are taken over by women and they pass increasingly anti-male laws and verdicts I call it a form of feminism. I guess 9/10 judges in russian family courts are female like in Poland. In all slavic countries women are alredy richer than men thus they can accumulate even more wealth and higher positions thanks to better access to education than men.
it's institutionalized discrimination of men but its not feminism by any definition
its been like that in Soviet times too even in 70s and probably in other countries too, women been always giving privileges when it comes to parenting
and no we dont have majority of female judges (we have sick nepotism though, hard to make career in justice unless you have relatives/friends there)
I saw two antifa/antiracist retards last time I was in Warsaw. This in a city where I counted 15 niggers, 2 chinks, 4 camelfuckers (including owners of the kebab shop), and 1 pooinloo total over a 10-day period (and some of them might have been repeats).
What the FUCK do you retards in your 98% white country know about racism? I was ready to knock that gaylord with the "STOP RACISM - WE ARE ALL THE SAME" straight to the ground when I saw him.
FUCKING SHIT I AM ENRAGED JUST FROM THE MEMORY
Though in poland we do have female majority of judges+nepotism. Institutionalized discrimination of men is feminism since it empowers. Call it female supremacy if you like.
What the fuck few craptchas in the row?
same reaction brah
No shit if you are a foreign man then polish family courts will strip all your parent rights, bar you from seeing kids and you still have to pay.
The only solution is to live in relatively male friendly country that won't extradite you. I hear about a lot of cases of arab fathers abducting their children from poland.
They probably just came here to be annoying antifa. We get a lot of German antifa coming here for whenever the nationalists start rallying.
tl;dr: they were most likely tourists.
I have nothing against refugees really though I'm envious of tchem I rather be a refugee myself than be born in poland. Some kind of change in poland is welcome by me. Blacks and arabs aren't as castrated and submissive as polish or white men in general so I wonder what will happen when there will be more of them.
So get a prenup. And as far as custody, if you have to get a divorce you're probably a loser and didn't spend enough time picking the right woman to spend the rest of your life with.
>I wonder what will happen when there will be more of them.
No need to wonder. It will be daily suffering having shitskins among you, endless racial tension and all crimes against whites will be ignored.
That's how the jew rules. I wish I were kidding.
Prenub can be thrown out and I think it doesn't cover child support and custody.
>you're probably a loser and didn't spend enough time picking the right woman to spend the rest of your life with
Another feminist shaming argument probably cuntanon.
They(at least muslim ones)want to overthrow jewish goverments in europe so jews are foolish letting them in these numbers. Would be great if they could overthrow goverment in poland but will ages for muslims in Poland to reach critical mass required to do so. Especially because Poland seem to be more feminist than most of western countries therefore birth rates of muslim women in Poland would drop severely.
>Prenub can be thrown out
What percentage of prenups are thrown out? I'm led to believe that this isn't a problem. You're just complaining.
>Another feminist shaming argument probably cuntanon.
Divorce is a cancer on society. I mean, really? You jump into marriage with a woman and can't make it last even 18 years until the child is old enough to make it to college?
Boo hoo, the laws suck and should be changed. I agree. But if this dissuades you from marrying and having children then you're obviously the kind of person who shouldn't be marrying.
Actually I remember now that I heard from polish woman that the only reason why polish women have children at all is because they can always get child support otherwise they wouldn't want to have any children and birthrates in Poland would be negative. We need artificial wombs faster with such women.
It's a woman most likely.
Holy shit, you poles really are stupid.
What are you even doing on /pol/?
The muzzies are just a tool of the jew and serve their purposes, and even work together.
The only middle eastern nation not under full jew control is Iran. That's it, /pol/ish friend.
>Arab goverments work jews with but a common muslim wants to to kill them.
So what's your point? Jews always need to have someone at their throats to keep them herded together and supporting each other, or else they'll tear each other apart.
They've survived as a cohesive group for 2,000+ years, they know survival strategies.
It means society is fucked up because people don't respect marriage anymore. People are more concerned about how the other person can fuck them over and how to fuck the other person over. Spoiled children.
For the FEW cases, and there should be few, I agree that divorce should be measured more objectively.
at least the pollacks know how to keep the happy merchant at bay
I don't trust women at all they have trecherous nature and polish ones are way above average in this regard.
Many jews from france and uk emmigrate to israel in fear of muslims so they are real threat to them.
Yeah. I think it's a general lack of cultural cohesion. I don't know what the sample size of the stats you showed are and what part of the world populace, but I agree with you. This mindset exists mainly among the lower middle class.
>so they are real threat to them.
They're a tool. The elite jews use them to herd their sheep, and even better if they move "home" to Israel.
The elite jews don't mind sacrificing a few lesser brethren. It's how they work.
>Jews running away from europe means them losing power here.
Holy shit. I..I had no idea about Poland, anon. You have truly opened my eyes.
That view is so simplistic. You aren't ever gonna get it.
Well, hey, you're still white. Best of luck and please keep /pol/and white, anon.
>/pol/ panders about poland being based
>900 threads everyday about 'moving to poland' and 'polish crusade' and 'polish traditional qt'
>mfw poland turned to be the biggest cuck of the world
>I don't trust women at all they have trecherous nature
You need to work on that. If you can't trust women obviously you're setting yourself up to fail.
>and polish ones are way above average in this regard.
That's just not true.
I don't know if it's the biggest cuck but it is a very female dominated country and even has a cuckolding law.>>60034991
By the way I read polish women are often sex tourists in Tunisia.
For the record I was looking on a large dating website for Poland grillz.
Saw one that was looking for black guys. She said finding a black there was like finding a diamond.
>I felt sick
>That's just not true.
It is from what I know about polish women.
I rank them to be worse on average for long term marriage than American women. Because you must understand that eastern european women consciously use their pussies to rise in the ranks so if they meet someone better divorce is almost certain and polish are the least loyal among slavic women.
Polish women may very well be the biggest coalburners in europe.
I heard from polish women that blacks are more handsome, masculine with huge dicks and fuck better than polish guys. Blacks and even arabs>>>polish men according to many polish women. I even heard about polish women who only date blacks or who didn't want to have children originally but give birth to black kids in the end. I also heard about polish women who divorced polish husbans to marry niggers and stories about married daughter+mother duo who had lesbian sex with each other and were gang banged by niggers in uk until they got pregnant.
That's cool, but you kind of forgot to mention the context which is:
The minimum wage at ~ $450
The mode wage at ~ $550 (2012)*
The median wage at ~ $780 (2012)*
Sorry, but without referencing societal wealth your numbers don't mean crap.
*kurwy z gusu nie chcą podawać świeżych danych
> i hope the laws get changed really soon.
Not a Chance for that unless demographics change or war breaks out.
It's getting even worse actually Poland passed violence against women act recently.
>paying child support
>to somebody who fled the country
>ordered by a court in a country you don't live in
How does that work? She could certainly take the kids to poland and even get a judgement against you for child support, but how would they enforce that? In the US you can't even collect child support over state lines, your ex can get an arrest warrant issued in the state they're in but they can't cross state lines to arrest you.
You look like a Bulgarian with bleached hair
How did you manage to do it, was the mother alcoholic, criminal, mentally ill or a drug addict, was judge male or female? Polish courts usually refuse to give custody to father even in cases of gross neglect on mother's side.
Definitely laws are passed due to culture so if a country has feminised culture it will pass laws such as these
That's just you talking, probably because you can't get one. I've grown up with polish women my whole life. They've all had to put up with terrible husbands. Most of the husbands are dead due to drinking or other stupid shit.
And most of the marriages I know are not what you describe, including everyone I know in Poland.
I'm actually 95% sure you're trolling for fun.
Well, the Jews probably don't hate you and you can use muh holocaust as an effective defense against criticism.
Imagine if your current leader would say something like this.
>The current actions against the Polish people reminds me of a dark german past.
You would BTFO left and Merkel forever.
the first thing a woman in poland does after learning she is pregnant is to go doctor shopping until one of them will help her get on disability leave until she gives birth. During that time she can't be fired, one year of maternity leave after that, while getting paid.
Yeah obviously this is general life plan of polish women find a good provider, keep him, bang him, get pregnant with him then depending of a woman marry him or just extort child support second type is becoming increasingly common.
No niggers here. Seriously it's getting worse and worse in the US. I took a walk through Warsaw during the summer late at night and nothing happened to me. In an American city the size of Warsaw you better be packing heat or be ready to be mugged.
Oh man. The maternity leave women get here is ridiculous and then women wonder why no one wants to hire them.
>hire a woman
>3 months later she gets pregnant
>comes back a year later
well the maternity leave is a good thing, so is still having money if your pregnancy is in danger. however it only works if no one cheats, poland seems to be the most dangerous country to get pregnant in, more than half of pregnant women can't work
>Polish women are the hottest of all
they are as hot as any other nationality
How old is he, still you are incredibly lucky with a female judge. Worst case scenario in poland is where a woman entrap you and doesn't let you see the kid from the beginning you won't have any connection with a child and then court can strip you of all parent rights on the grounds of lack of connnection with child.