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10 minutes till the collapse of the fabric of America get in here
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>>60028624
bump
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>>60028624

>fabric collapse

seems pretty anticlimactic to me

like a curtain blowing in the wind.
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>America get in here
Oh boy if your economy fails not even Trump can save you
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If China gets rekt, the USA is the one paying.
If the USA pays, their dolla is rekt.
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>>60028624
Why what's happening
I just woke up
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The crazy thing is that pol has been on this for like 14 hours yet it's going to blindside the fuck out of Americans
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>>60028843

China is hemorrhaging US debt out their ass to stay afloat
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>>60028903
Go to google finance
Seas of red
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VIX up over 5% is the happening confirmed yet?
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It just dropped a percent in the first 30 seconds
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>>60028624
No need to worry.. China is too big to fail.. it will get bailed out
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Guys, im not smart with money, can someone translate to Australian? I.e. beer, mate, bbc, etc.
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>>60028624
HOLYYYYYY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/04/dow-set-for-triple-digit-losses-amid-china-sell-off.html
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>>60029317
They bought to much beer and now hungover with no money to pay off the pizza man, mate.
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>4 minutes in
>-2.02%
WEW LAD.
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yeah, BRICS are fucked

America wins again you commie shits. I'm ready to make America great again, are you?
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>>60029389
Fuk.>>60029324
>>60029324
How bad is triple digit? When was that last? Google finance is at -111
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HAHAHAHA YES LET IT ALL BURN
LET THE SONS OF MAN SHED THEIR COATS OF HIBERNATION AND ANSWER THE CALL OF THE DRUMS OF WAR.

DO YOU FEEL IT MEN?
WAR IS COMING.
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WE'RE ALL FUCKING DEAD!!
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>>60029479
Happens all the fuckin time. Nothing is gonna happen.
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>>60028624
comfy?
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This is what happens when you make up something like global warming china
This is what happens when you take American jobs and pay your children pennies like spics
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As a general rule, when the dow is down 300, buy like hell.
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>>60028624
Yawn, slide this slide thread, there are way more important happenings going on at the moment.
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>>60029544
And after so many times, when dose it break?
>Lol, remember our great depression and all
>No one thought it would happen
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>>60029667
>Stock markets across the world crashing
>Iran/Saudi war
>Anything more important than those two things
Get the fuck out.
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>>60029555
yea
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Things are getting stranger every day.
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>>60029782
I like this one.
Yoink
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>>60029687
This is all China based. Worst thing that will happen is that even more money from the BRICS enters the US.
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comfy
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can someone explain what is going on to a person who never follows these things? please explain it like to a clueless idiot like myself, and simplify it as much as you can
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>>60029866
It's happening
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>>60028624
it's the January hike.

business gets slow on the fIrst 2 to 3 months of the year then take off by spring and summer.

literally every single business cycle.

you fucking tin foil fucks are shit on economic and probably worst on business.

stick on what your good for; making trump circle jerk threads and trump damage control threads
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Dow Jones Industrial Average and -380 (-2.19%)
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>>60029790
The meme magic wheel is off it's axis we pushed it to hard
We were never suppose to abuse it the way we did now everything is memeing into reality I woke up in a different house on New Years and the night before I drank I was talking about getting a new house
Shits too real now
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SELL SELL SELL SELL

GET #sell TRENDING
START A RIOT

SELL
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it took china, 5 trillion muslims, and a whole lotta tranny porn to take the evil empire down
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>>60029915
but what is happening? there is many things happening.
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>>60029826
Our fall was US base.
And Germany sure as hell felt it.
Since we have alot of trade with em, this could pose as either really great for us, or China gonna call our Debt
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>>60029449
That's a sexy motherfuckin engine right there I tell you what
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>>60028624
Please SELL SELL SELL
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>>60029977
dont forget to giggle while you are starting more mindless sheep-games my young false flagging friend.
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>>60028624
It's too cold
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>>60029505
only way to solve this shit tbqh

why do you think india buffed up it defence budget
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I don't invest in the stock market at all. How fucked am I if the market tanks?
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>>60030016
China cant call anything, treasuries have fixed maturities and they will only hurt themselves if they dump this stuff on the market. All these shenanigans will actually make it easier for the US government to borrow.
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>>60030054
hey this is a good flag
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>>60029782
soon
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IT'S HAPPENING
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K KEEP ME TOASTED
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>>60030088
THE SUPREME DEPRESSION
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>>60028624
Not happening. Go home
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American in China today, everybody in the train station was checking stocks on their phones like mad. I saw a guy in a suit on his phone yelling at someone, probably his broker, to sell it all right now. what an idiot. Hold onto you renminbi lads
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>>60028624
Bye bye ameriburgers, was nice knowing you!
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>>60030088
unemployed and eating dirt like a stinky poointheloo
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>>60030169

350

out of 17500

Yeah... totally happening... America is doomed... again...

BTW Israel just invaded Lebanon and told civilians to find a new country because they no longer consider Lebanon a valid government, Syria here we come
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>>60030169
AAHHHH
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>>60030204
pls be true
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>>60030169
Wake me up when this is over.
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>>60030238
How do I avoid this terrible fate?
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>>60030225
BUY BUY BUY GOYIM ITS TIME TO GET RICH
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>>60030088
For reasons of yes, I'll over blow things
>Milk-$3.20
>Milk if Collapse-$320
Our paper money would become that.
Paper.
>Start buying wheelbarrows to sell, wallets are so 2015
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>>60030204
THE MEME DEPRESSION
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>>60030264
S E L L
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>>60030264
buy gold
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>>60030239
Don't lie, nigger.
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>>60030264
THESE ARE THE FUTURES YOU CHOOSE
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>>60030314
Okay, thanks.
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ISM number in 6 minutes, gonna be very important
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>>60030239
YES YES IRAN WAR WITH ISRAEL NOW

KIKES WILL DIE. GREAT RACE WITH OVER 4000 YEARS (dont quote me) OF CULTURE WILL RID THE JEWS
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>>60030252
Its never oger.
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>>60030239
IT"S GAME OVER MAN, IT"S OVER, WE'RE FUCKED, MAN!
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>>60030335
Don't. Gold is a fucking scam.
Buy a small house/terrain and rent it
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>>60030399
Okay, I'll do that instead. Thanks.
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>>60030279
Give it a minute to bottom out, worst may be yet to come. Hoping for a huge crash so that I can make a leveraged bet on the major indexes and get made
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>>60030102
True, but I like to stay on the side of caution. Anything can cause a ripple effect.
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>>60030314
Oy vey
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happeningfags really are pathetic
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Ok. Tell me what is going on here? How does 500~ points mean anything?
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>>60030440
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>>60029977

Dax is going DOWN
FUCKING SELL
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>>60030467
shut the fuck up normie
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>>60030399
Protip: unless you want being a landlord to be a full-time job, consider having a property management company run the operation for you. You can have years of good no-problem tenants and then the next one will make you want to burn your own house down and walk away.

Gold is not a scam, though. But for 99% of people out there is should not be viewed as anything more than a way to diversify savings that you don't have anything better to do with than save.
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>>60030467
I'm here because my family is 24/7
>Feel teh Bernie
While I have to defend The Trump.
Talking of a stock market crash is a nice change of pace, desu senpai
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>>60028953
this is accurate, desupai.

can you imagine trying to falsify demand to support a growing supply just to keep up the facade that china isn't 2 steps away from total collapse as a country?

great times we live in.
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>>60030054
habbens
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Official thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l4OEJ38aLY
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>>60030467
its a bunch of kids with dad money pretending to play at stocks no more no less

no wonder they love trump he is just like them: a joke given everything just to squander half of it
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>>60030503
Dollar is going down, Euro is going down, every currency in the world is in downfall, except for gold and oil, which are the mother materials.
That means that the market is selling every company action and moving to the safer. We're entering a big recession.
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I'm visiting a factory in Shenzhen tomorrow, I'll see what the boss says about the situation.
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ive been waiting so long, I don't even care anymore

let the stocks crash, ill still be poor
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ISM MANUFACTURING NUMBERS STRAIGHT FUCKING GARBAGE

HAPPENING IS ON
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>>60030054
RARE
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J A N U A R Y 4 T H
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>>60030563
>Protip: unless you want being a landlord to be a full-time job, consider having a property management company run the operation for you
yes this
>Gold is not a scam, though.
Not a scam in the real meaning of the term. But a scam in the fact that I too often see people with small capitals putting 10/15% of the entire capital in gold, which unless traded yields nothing.
I have some gold, but I'm already more than financially stable
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>>60030682
So Babylon has fallen?
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>>60030658
I'm a broke fuck, and have no stocks.
I just like world events.
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>>60030682
>every currency in the world is in downfall
No wonder your country is run by economic illiterates
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>>60030658
and here another liberal cuck
>look at me im studying to be cucckitician
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NASDAQ S&P500 and DOWJONES all heading for 3%.
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>>60030709

back to /x/ theres really habbenings happening
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What does /biz/ say?
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>>60030844

They'll hit at least 4% before the hour
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>>60028958
You sure Hillary Clinton didn't just have a vindaloo yesterday?
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>>60030909
China's future
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is the world on fire yet?
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>>60030898
they cant agree on anything

some sold this morning, some are going to wait
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>>60029389
That's a pretty accurate analogy.
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>>60030898


Barrick Gold Corporation ABX. 7.84 Up 0.46(6.30%) 10:06AM EST -
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>>60030697
bluessong.pepe
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>>60030898
/biz/ is a terrible board. its like /s4s/ 2bh.

>>60030909
Nice.
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Does this actually matter? Doesn't the stock drop usually at the start of the new year? I still believe the happening
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>>60028624
Can someone explain to me what's going on?
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>>60030898
They can't stop the selling.

The Fed must step in soon, we need a couple of trillions in fresh money.
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China's about to be
Zim-zam-bama-lam'd
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>>60030054
RARE AMICO MIO
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>>60030264
Just ask yourself this one question, using all the information you have acquired over the years from school, your own experience, and our red pill.

What would the Jews do.
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HOW MANY DINDUS COULD THE INDU DO IF THE INDU DINDU NUFFIN
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>>60029512
only people HEAVILY invested in outsourcing


so yeah your dad is going to lose a lot. you deserve far worse.
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>>60028624

Omg this Happening is almost as bad as the September Happenig that never happened.


Fuck off Happening faggots. This is Trump's board. Take your shitposting to leddit and your 9gag tier maymays.
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>>60031095
quick turn on the printers and make all our problems go away!!
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The media isn't even talking about this... No happening?
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>>60031177
To be honest family, the very notion that the dow is at up at 17k is just so absurd that I'm more surprised it's still that high instead of at some reasonable figure.
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>>60031095
maybe if you zoom in harder on that graph people will fall for it
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>>60031177
Why did I laugh at this?

Silly Brits.
FTSE -131.20 (-2.10%)
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>>60030743
this isnt a world event its a minor market correction
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>>60031172
Take credit for another race that got genocide and get a new home and shecks?
>Ay, goy, The Jewish Chinese where robbed to pay China's collapse!
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Could someone summarize?

Is it time to buy?
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>>60031224
Well it has worked for the last 15 years so why not do more of it.
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>>60028624
Is shit actually going to collapse this time, or is like the other "happenings"
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When is the china market opening?
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>>60031244
Probably saving it, there's going to be a mass shooting probably and then the media will play the DOW China stock market crash card.

It'll probably be a Muslim or a black.
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>>60031095
oh no they fell 60 points
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>>60031348
9:30 PM EST
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>>60028624
the meme magic is real

some one make a

"if you see image you most post SELL SELL SELL"
we need countless drones to post SELL SELL SELL
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Is anyone else pumped for this day of happenings

Stock market
Oregon militia btfo BLM
Saudi Arabia/Iran ww3
Nigger BLM takeover of Trump rally?

Am I missing anything?
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>>60031348
They dropped 7% before they pulled the plug.
Can't wait to see what happens when it reopens.
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>>60030054
rare
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>>60031315
In China.
Off of the US soil.
>Pretty global thing to me m8
It's been nice thread so far.
Habbening or not
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>>60031244
Unlike us they don't want to incite panic
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What does this even mean? Translation for retarded gypsy please.
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>>60031446
Damn, gonna be a big day today
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>>60028953
So much this. I took a long position a few months ago on USD/CNH expecting china to continue devaluation. The problem china ran into was an outflow of capital and the higher the exchange rate went, the faster money left. So they reversed themselves by dumping US debt to support their currency and I had to exit the position at no gain/loss. The exchange rate is skewing higher again(!) and outflows are continuing. China fucked itself, it had a nice virtuous cycle going but they forgot about the vicious one that succeeds it. Inflows can always lead to outflows. This is (probably) why bitcoin took off, it was one of the few ways to export cash to america. Since chinese buyers entered bitcoin, they drove up the price and escaped to HK/AU/USA on "investor visas" or "pay for citizenship" schemes. The credit crunch will only accelerate as wealthy individuals attempt to preserve wealth by moving it offshore or in the case of global investors, retreat from china altogether. AU has seen major inflows already into real estate(their property bubble is partly chinese investors leaving the mainland) as has california(see san jose-francisco property prices). The flows into AU/USA/CAD may be great for us but hell for china, in fact china basically said "give us back our rich people" to which america said no. We want the rich chinese bringing money here.
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>>60031339
Today is the prelude to the Jan 8th happening
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>>60031315
This. People are getting worried over nothing.

If the DJI drops by over 1000 points, that might be something to worry about.

Either way, oil is up by 2%, which is good for our dollar, so I'm happy.
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>>60031446
>Nigger BLM takeover of Trump rally?

Could you link me the source, by chance?
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>>60031378
I know they're all down but which is crucial to the crash.

I'm betting nothing will happen but I can't help think of my rich af boss and his factories in shenzhen holding up his empire.
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>>60031511
China drank all of its Alchol.
China can't pay it's bar bill.
China is now setting up a Tab.
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>>60031511
BRICS is a shit.
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>>60031511
It means The End of the World is Nigh.
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>>60031446

Israel/Lebanon
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>>60029957
We depleted it with the "no more dead frogs". That's why the happening was not as significant as pic related.

I'm going to give the meme aether some time to refill its stores. 3 days in a row is too much.
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>>60031485
so if someone in china spills their noodles its a world event?

or did your dad say its a BIG DEAL because hes heavily invested in outsourcing?
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>>60031415
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He's coming
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>>60031775
SELL SELL SELL
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>>60031775
SELL SELL SELL SELL
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Some music is very valuable. What kind of music do you like? I hope you understand.
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>>60031623
Shanghai Composite is the main one with Shenzen. If you want to look, there is an etf in the US that trades under the ticker ASHR that tracks the A-Shares in China, even though its not open in China right now, it trades in the US. China was closed at -7% but this index is at -8.75% so this would imply a further 1.75% in China as soon as they open
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>>60028624
SELL SELL SELL SELL
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>>60031337
It's always time to buy, goyim!
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>>60031775
SELL SELL SELL
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>>60031775
SELL SELL SELL SELL
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>>60031775
SELL SELL SELL SELL
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>>60031775

SELL SELL SELL SELL
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SELL SELL SELL
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>>60031793
https://youtu.be/l7iVsdRbhnc

Thread theme
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>>60031775
SELL SELL SELL SELL
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>>60031775
SELL SELL SELL
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>>60031728
Fat fuck died when I was 13, so, no.
>Economy crash in another country
>Compared to noodles spilling
Why looking for a fight? I'm here to see if Chaos happens.
If it doesn't, I still learned somthing.
Take the rod put of your ass man.
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>>60031611
Your $ is holding steady vs the US $ and the Australian $ is getting crushed. Oil saved your bacon today.
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>>60031775
SELL SELL SELL!
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>>60032030
>Take the rod out of*
Sp311in6 4 chumqs
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>>60031446
Afrikaners Boers are on the brink of being in a mob lynch
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>>60031775
SELL SELL SELL SELL
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>>60031775

SELL SELL SELL SELL

>mfw albos get blamed for this lel
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>>60031875

Thank you mate... fucking boomers and their ancients complaining to me all my life about the recession, and money is about to lose all meaning in my lifetime. Will I be hiding in a government bunker disguised as a toll tunnel by this time next week?
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When a market dive is blamed on china, that is a sure sign that better times are ahead.
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SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL
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>>60031616
There have been a few threads but I don't have a link. There is a Facebook BLM page for Lowell Massachusetts organizing it
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>>60032139
Who invited this faggot?
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If VIX is up is that a bad thing ?
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>>60031552
China has gigantic foreign reserves. It can keep this cycle going for at least another 5 years if it wants to. This isnt about the exchange rate, its about the Chinese economy itself.
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yes good goys "SELL SELL SELL"
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>>60031775

SELL SELL SELL SELL
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>>60032313
Myself.
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>>60032314
yes its a volatility index, the higher it goes the less stable the market
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>YFW there will be a 66666666 post this year.

truly the end is upon us.
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>>60032211
most likely not, but my 5-10 year outlook is extremely negative, everybody focused on China, but the main problem will be Japan.

If you want to be freaked out, watch some of Kyle Bass videos on Japan, they are so fucked its funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVbWTayF8Wk
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>>60032314
It probably has a -1 coefficient to regular market stuff.

I'm guessing that it was put in to balance your portfolio.

If this is correct, then the actually market dip is supposed to be -23% instead of -2% or -5%.
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Wait so is china trying to pressure us to pay back our debt and that is why the market is falling?
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>>60032493
kek
It reflects implied volatility in option prices.
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>>60032471
>the main problem will be Japan.
hasn't japan had the same problems for 30 years now and somehow continuously put off anything happening?

oh shit, when it happens will we see a mass exodus from japan to the west, or a mass importation of skinnies to japan, or both?
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this samre exact thing happened a few months ago and you lot said the world was going to end. are ./pol/tards the biggest retards on the planet?
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>>60032471

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kFcDKBpdII

This one is also very good if you have time to spend... Really frightening stuff
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>>60029667
>be murkan
>other non-murkan shit more important than murkan shit
>be first in line on the day of the rope
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Which markets is everybody watching? I've got DAX and DOW here. Any recommendations?
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So what's markets am I supposed to be looking at to witness this crash? China's or murrikas?

If China implodes before the elections, how will Trump react?
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>>60032572
The main problem in Japan is that demographic (they are super racist so they dont have immigrants).

Not having immigrants is a problem in a society where the social security system is a Ponzi scheme and people are not breeding like nigers in Africa.
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>>60032661
http://www.investing.com/charts/real-time-futures-charts

Open up SP500, VIX and Gold
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>>60032547
Ah, then it's not linear.

But that's still not good.
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>>60032655
I recommend watching all of them

There is not a single exchange in the green right now
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>>60032526
pretty sure they can't make us pay back our debt ahead of schedule.

i think it's that they've been propping up their own growth and expansion, and the contraction of real demand is catching up?

and now they're sitting on a stockpile of produced goods that aren't selling so the value of all their shit is dropping?

so they're taking the debts they have and selling them off to other parties at a loss to keep funds flowing?

so instead of owing china money, we owe other people money now?

oh god i'm so confused.
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>>60028958

Meh. Until it hits and srays below 3000 ill be sah ghaying these.

This is shemitah tier bs happenings.

I.e.: false alarm guys, the market will go back up.
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this is nothing. economic happening isn't even worth mentioning unless the market drops +10%.

300 points from 17,000 is a tiny fraction. you guys need to get better at math.
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>>60032781
Okay, thank you.
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>>60030709
>1
>4
>14
Someone find an 88, meme magic is online.
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>>60032669
doesn't this just result in the adjustment of the social security system and screwing a generation over?

also, a general question, why hasn't the west adopted a social security system predicated on stable populations. fuck i hate politicians for being politicians instead of planners.
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>>60032576

Last year rates hadn't risen yet. They are now .25% higher. Small, but relevant to the world of finance.

>>60032661

memes aside, this is mostly contained to China for now. The BRICS are dead, China is about to get completely fucked. Longer term, this whole collapse is happening since Americans aren't buying as much crap as they used to.

As for the elections, who can say? Either way long term China is fucked since they're now starting a territory dispute in the SCS with us. This is a battle they cannot win, as we'll either end up replacing them with another south pacific country or just ending free trade. Either way they have chosen their path and foreign investors have wised up to it. Now chinese investors are.
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>>60032655
https://www.trading212.com/en/login

sign up for a practice account and you can watch anything you want
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>>60032798
The day has just begun friend :^)
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went for a while.
the whole thread is meme
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>>60032493

You should probably never post again
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>>60032930
Thanks mate
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>>60032912
This post is so full of bullshit, I am not even gonna bother with it.
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>>60030264
war
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>>60032714
Thanks.
>-2.31% already

>>60032912
Damn son. I hope to see China kill in my lifetime. It will be interesting for many reasons, not just trade and finances.

>>60032875
Check these digits, senpai.
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>>60032379
SELL SELL SELL SELL Skyking
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>>60031552

Thanks for this explanation. I never realized bitcoin could have been used for transferring money this way but it makes perfect sense.
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>>60032892
First question, yes, problem with that is that people don't just acept that, crime wil go up, nationalism rise etc... we are seeing the tip of that, there is more to come

Well they need to get elected, they need to give some gibsmedat to the population or they just wont be elected so they plan the social security system based on illogical assumption of population/gdp growth
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>>60031552
This is why bitcoin is way undervalued just like gold
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>>60028624
Markets will recover, the habbs is off.
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>>60032816
>Its nothing
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>>60033178
Ahhem.. is there something you owe the EU ? starts with D ends with S
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It's all over guys, it's recovering.
Sigh...
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>>60033227

>thinks 400 is different from 300 on a scale of 1-17,000

seriously. math. try it.
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China claims a malfunction.... They stopped it before it got to 10%
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>>60033115
well, 2nd question was rhetorical, in that it's of course because politicians care about elections not about 20 years from now.

government adjucated by asimovian robots when.
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>>60028903
>BRICS tried to devalue USD and hoarded gold
>US managing to turn the tables

Who knows what the future holds
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>>60033287
no, they have circuit breakers... 5% halt at -5% and then day off at 7%

We also have this in US, -5%, then -10% and then at -20% they call the day off
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>>60032912
Nothing is contained. The European index is down over 4% and that has more to do with mideast tensions. There are bubbles everywhere and ww3 on the horizon which may go nuclear with sa/iran
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>>60033262
Denizens :^)
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SELL SELL SELL
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>>60032816
>10%

You realize the housing bubble popping "only" resulted in a 8% drop and that shit brought us to the brink of being reverted to the stone age right?
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>>60033262
Dsink boatS?
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>>60033031

>this post is so bullshit I'm not even going to bother with it
>but I'm still going to bother telling everyone this since I'm butthurt

kek
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>>60033287
>a malfunction
oops, the markets went down, it was just a malfunction!
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>>60030155
Is this that forced reptilian meme? Where did it even come from? I heard it was from twitch.
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>>60028624
>fabric of america
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>>60033399

yeah, the stock market has a lot to do with whether or not electricity still works.

fuck off back to your wow private servers, pollock.
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>>60033520
I'm an Amerifat on vacation and also an economics major

You're fucking retarded and have no idea what happened to insurance companies like AIG to think only people with stocks were close to losing all of their money
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>>60033481
Man wait until people learn that they're all being mfglobal'd.
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>>60030658

You actually think we have money?!
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>>60033591
fucking kill yourself stupid ass american nigger
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Look whose doing the best today.

Russia, Israel and Sri Lanka
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my gold went up $63,000 today
when china reopens it's going up even more
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>>60033591

that's irrelevant.

the world can still operate without money. just because some bankers go broke, doesn't mean electricity generation stops and suddenly we're hunters and gatherers again.

fuck, how jewish are you?
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>>60033641
dude I have MSNBC on in the background and there is literally a commercial running for people to buy in to the next insurance scam because
>there is a written gaurantee you will never lose money on this

Holy fuck. Is this LTCM all over again?
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HERE THEY COME IN AGAIN

Big wave of selling. The SPX lost 10 points in the last 5 minutes alone
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>>60033375
neither of those countries have a nuclear arsenal..
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>>60031775
SELL SELL SELL SELL
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>>60033752
>just because some bankers go broke, doesn't mean electricity generation stops and suddenly we're hunters and gatherers again.

How should I dumb this down to someone with no knowledge of how the economy works

AIG and other insurance companies were on the brink of all going under thanks to those kikes promising insurance on toxic assets

Those insurance companies handled everything to insuring people's lives TO FUCKING UTILITIES LIKE ELECTRICITY

THERE WAS MORE TO THE FINANCIAL CRISIS THAN FUCKING INVESTMENT BANKS YOU DELUSIONAL RETARD
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THEY CANT STOP THE SELLING


FLASH CRASH
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>>60033474
>rates having anything to do with this
>ending free trade
>Armericans arent buying as much as they used to
>SCS has somehow to do with this

Its like you googled China and finance and put everything in a single post.
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>>60033766
Guaranteed insurance contracts

You can't lose because it says guaranteed in the name. They have been scamming people since the 1980s with gics and people never learn
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>>60033880
SELL SELL SELL SELL
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>>60033894
POLAND STAHP! I AM GETTING THE SPOOPS!
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>>60033873
I guess if you say they don't then that proves it
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>>60034106
Is this like inflation-protected treasuries? You think these kikes will stop at nothing, but I'll tell you one thing you will never, ever hear:

>oops, the market went up, it was just a malfunction! we had to shut it down!
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>>60033894

you seriously think they'll just shut everything down just because they can't pay some bills to their jewish overlords in jew york?

utilities would just say 'fuck off we're keeping the lights on' and the death of fiat money would be final, as it should be.

and yes the utility works would work 'for free' because those utilities keep their families alive.

you economics people seriously think money is all that matters. the world can get along 100% just fine without it. a barter system would replace it within weeks if the financial system crashed. that is, if welfare niggers could be kept from destroying infrastructure.
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WE PANIC NAW?
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>>60034148
Fuck off Nigel I'm only in this country to get plastered in Krakow for a week or two
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Was Nostradamus rigth again ? Islam, economic downfall

Did we really have no cash for the hungover mates ?
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time to get solar electric installed on the house

if the utilities take a hit, they will have to raise rates
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>>60034233
No. It's like a CD, but since it's not issued by a bank if they fail you lose your money. so you get a bunch of old people who get excited to get a guaranteed 3% interest and then get hosed
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>>60031608

This.

Chinks change their rules come friday. Then its truly happening.
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not a single person posting who seems to be directly affected. Can we get some professional opinions?
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>>60033959

Rates are marginally higher now ergo US investors are more cautious with their money. This is a problem for the BRICS. Meanwhile China's antics in the SCS are directly causing US policymakers (such as the navy) to look for other partners in the south pacific, not China.

And under all of this is the fact that Americans are not buying as much things as they used to, which means less potential profit. It's all coming down and the most fragile economies, namely ones that make plastic crap/mcdonalds toys, are the first to go.
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>>60034286
If you honestly believe that public utilities would just stay on for free forever you need only look to fucking Detroit to see what happens when there's no longer money to pay for basic things like water

Bottom line is had all those insurance companies (and investment banks to a lesser extent) failed we would have seen the greatest happening of all time
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Dow down more than 450 points
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America isn't going to collapse because of a small bubble bursting. This is china's disintegration, not ours. Watch us rise.
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>>60034434
They're just going to raise rates anyway. If solar makes sense for you, go for it.

>>60034494
>3% interest rate
Dayum. I remember when PayPal had like a 7.something% interest rate. That was before they took the interest rate down to .00002% or whatever it was, and then sent me an official email that they would no longer be offering the option to keep my balance in a mutual fund. That was years before the housing thing.

What's the inflation rate these days? More or less than 3%?
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>>60034556

that's because the economic system still exists and detroit can't keep up.

in a total collapse, a replacement would work itself out pretty quickly.

my point on welfarites can't be ignored, however. people that literally have no use on this planet other than to consume products using other peoples' money, is the biggest threat to a post-fiat currency planet. and there's 100 million of those people in America alone.
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>>60034555
Rates are sill extremely low and 0.25% wont change much at all.
All the short term speculation in the Chinese stock market is done by the Chinese itself. Foreign investors only own a small fraction of publicly traded Chinese companies.

>Americans are buying less
This is plain wrong.
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>>60030016
there is no such thing as calling debt in this scenario
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damn looks like it's time to dig out the old hat again
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>>60034700
If a world without an economic system of any sort isn't the stone age then you and I have fundamentally different definitions of the word

Kikes on Wall Street that you have never met or interacted with have had monetary stakes in everything from your home to your medicine to your life insurance, it's how the world works now
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So is it actually happening this time guys?
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>circlejerking over not even a 3% drop

hate this comfy stock drop meme, brings out a bunch of econ 101 B students
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>>60035159
No, the only thing we have to worry about in the short term are bonds
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>>60034963

that was one of my earlier points. you, as an economist, only sees things through the eyes of finance. you can't conceive of a world without it.

i on the other hand, am a retired electrical engineer that is currently running my family's smallish farm. also, i have zero debt. from my viewpoint, the world can work just fine without 'cash'.
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>>60035212

Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
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>>60035307
Sweden can be exchanged for kebabs
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>>60028624
Move to a general stock market thread, we have way to many about this atm

Let's move to a general, we have way to many threads at the moment

>>60035256
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>>60035307

even better:

goods and services can be exchanged for goods and services.
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>>60035212
Well considering currency has existed in some form for at least 4000 years you living on a farm providing for yourself would have it better than 99% of people, so no, I am not only looking at it from an economic perspective

People with illnesses and other needs which currently demand a large amount of capital would be fucked

Also your debt is irrelevant because even if I owed a million dollars the company I owed it to would have ceased existing anyway
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Pls explain to me (zero stocks knowledge retard) what's happening in a simple way
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>>60035479
Everybody's shitting their pants because the market didn't go up today.
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SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL
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>>60035479
Chink roller coasting is heading down for the 5th time in the past 12 months and people are just reacting to it
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>>60035416
>People with illnesses and other needs which currently demand a large amount of capital would be fucked

yes, the world definitely requires some 'population trimming'. i'm a pretty big proponent of doing away with useless people, as a devout
Catholic, it's probably my least admirable virtue...
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>>60035307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgct3Jn8pFA
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>>60034286
Man this poster is delusional. Sure, people can still go do physical labor without money, trading their work for other work or necessities. But it would be nowhere near the efficient system we have in place with a stable and functioning currency. Everything we do is tied to it.

How will your utility workers get to their job?
Who will deliver the fuel to the gas stations?
Who will refine the crude into the fuels?
Who will work the oil drilling rigs and maintain transportation networks?
Who will do the same for every other commodity we depend on to fuel our power grids and feed our processing plants?

Face it. If the market crashes and doesn't recover soon, then shit will hit the fan.

With that being said, this is probably just another bump in the road and we will see the market recover today.
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>>60035593
Well now you've just exposed yourself as an edgy nihilist

You have capitalism to thank for the machine you're shitposting on currently and even if you'd be able to live perfectly fine without it and with a life expectancy of 50 years you'd never have gotten it in the first place if people realized currency was convenient

P.S. I'm also a proponent of pop. control but only for shitskins with 4+ child birthrates
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>>60035532
There's a difference between didn't go up and dropped almost 400 points
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>>60035875
In the first 15 minutes
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>>60035771
Him and I weren't arguing about this tiny shit but 2008

2008 was scary for everyone because of credit default swaps
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>>60035875
Not really. I learned about numerators and denominators in elementary school. You really don't need high-level math to understand what's going on.
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>>60033287
Ohhhhh stock market boke whi boi, crumb back rater.
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>>60035938
There's complicated math behind this shit

But that math doesn't stem from "predicting" what will happen and whether a stock will go up or down, that shit is all a casino

The complicated part is analyzing how the kikes with big money will react so you know how to protect yourself
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>>60035938
Hurrrrr 400 of 17000 is nothing
You realize this is day one of a looooong shitstorm
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>>60035771
>>60035796

it will be interesting to see, regardless.

who rises and who falls.

at least we'll finally get the chance to try to create our PACNW white utopia.
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>>60035212
>the world can work just fine without 'cash'.

indeed it can, and it does.

the only people who will be affected by this are idiots who own stocks. morons who work for traded companies, and welfare recipients

when the welfare money stops, those bitches go crazy. national guard will have to mow them down in the streets by the thousands as they march on washington to get the money obama owes them.

a lot of people will need new jobs, but there will be more jobs if there is a collapse

those of us who grow our own food will have to defend ourselves, from all the stock traders that are picking through our garbage cans looking for food. they will have it the hardest, a lot of them will probably off themselves, because they have no useful skills to contribute to society
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>>60036085

yeah, thats' what we thought back in august when the shemitah was supposed to start.

this is nothing. unless china completely caves.
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>>60031775
SELL SELL SELL
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>>60036190
Which it will on the 8th when the crippled stocks frozen for 6 moths drop off the fucking charts
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>>60035307
>Money can be exchanged for goods and services.

worthless paper can't be exchanged for anything
i have 3 million mexican pesos that are not worth a dime
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>>60035796
Nice strawman.
You haven't dismissed this "farmer"s logic. You have this "it's always been like this" attitude that makes you look stupid.
>>60035771
>probably
I like it how literally nobody can make any kind of accurate predictions about market economy. It is so unscientific it makes one cringe.
>>60036132
Look guys, this is small burgeoise. He owns some means of production and works them himself, making his own labor his living and occasionally hiring someone to help him in his work. When he finally gets to the point where due to scale of productions it is more efficient to hire someone then to work himself at all he will become burgeoise.
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>>60036085
.4k of 17k is literally nothing. And 17k or what? What is the denominator? Why are we paying attention only to the numerator?

>>60036078
I leave the overcomplicated math to the math people. Some of them can eek out some arbitrage somewhere. I'd rather view it as an investor.
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>>60036307

keep them. mexico's economy is pretty strong right now, relatively speaking.

protip: the welfarites flooding our border arent mexicans, they're from even shittier countries, for the most part.
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>>60036411
>not knowing what an index is
American education everyone
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>>60036396
How did I strawman? He literally stated an anarchistic world without currency isn't stone age tier

I never stated that it would be the apocalypse but that collective human development would be halted for a while, which is 100% factually true without money
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>>60036526
I know what an index is. An index is a way to rig public perception by cherrypicking the numbers that back your story.

Why don't you put your money into the VIX or something? It's going to go UP-UP-UP JERRY! YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE MONEY NO MATTER WHICH WAY THE MARKET GOES!
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>>60036575
Money is frigging nothing. It is just paper we believe holds some value. All that matters are goods produced and the means goods are distributed. One of the means to distribute goods is money.
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>>60036632
You wouldnt ask what an denominator is if you knew what an index is.

Hint: The Dow started 1896 at 40.94 points
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>>60036912
Protein: the real "value" in money is the promise that we can get something else for it

Do you honestly believe a world where you have to trade to buy shit like a car will foster human development as easily as one where you can do $2000 of work and then use that money?
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>>60037065
Protip* fuck
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>>60037065

making things 'easy' is a big part of the reason we're in this mess to begin with.

and jews.
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>>60037063
I didn't ask what a denominator is. I know what a denominator is. Thank you for clarifying why I brought it up by citing historical figures.
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>>60037151
Making things "easy" is also why you have a computer in the year 2016 and not 6969

Jews are a problem though yes
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>>60037065
Can you read? I said:
>All that matters are goods produced and the means goods are distributed.
Look. Everyone's working and producing stuff. They get money for their job, which then is spent on goods produced. You can use instead of money any other way of distributing things, it doesn't matter. Society as a whole produces things, society as a whole distributes them within itself.
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>>60036464
>keep them. mexico's economy is pretty strong right now,

no, you don't understand. I got stuck with 1980's mexican pesos when the peso collapsed. the old peso is worthless, replaced by the new peso. they are not interchangeable. same will happen to the US dollar it will be nothing but paper.

http://www.mexperience.com/the-value-of-old-mexican-bank-notes/
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>>60037414
The speed of distribution is important to how fast society advances though

Surely you realize being able to acquire something an order of magnitude faster fosters progress
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>>60037559
The fastest way to distribute things would be a society with free goods and no market relations. No operations needed, fastest speed of operations achieved.
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>>60037240

i was more referring to the throwaway/disposable society.
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>>60037680
Your dream world isn't going to be achieved anytime soon Ivan, money is going to stick around until we achieve a post-scarcity NWO
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>>60036526
What is the significance of the "running total"? The fact that it always has to go up kind of makes me think this whole indexed market thing is a scam. Perpetual growth isn't exactly logical.
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