>Sweden has introduced identity checks for travellers from Denmark in an attempt to reduce the number of migrants arriving in the country.
>All travellers wanting to cross the Oresund bridge by train or bus, or use ferry services, will be refused entry without the necessary documents.
this discussion came up in the last weeks as well. got no papers at all and you can't enter. it was shouted down as the second coming of Hitler
seems like we have not yet reached sweden level of happening
Nah its true.
Problem is that the people getting deported for not having papers or a valid reason to stay just "dissapear" as media describes it. Later they turn up as illegal immigrants and we have to pay for them anyhow.
Swedish leftist media (read: all media) status: super butthurt. Reporters and activists deliberately cross the border without valid id and try to get back in. Get stuck in Denmark and write sob stories. kek.
Seriously THIS >>60017762??
Why do you guys need mud babies all of a sudden? Since when do you need to be land of opportunity? Back when immigration was serious, they would attract immigrants with similar heritage/values because they wanted to be "the land of opportunity". What opportunity is there in Sweden other than paying high taxes for mud babies in some fucked up globalization experiment?
This immigration is a band-aid solution to Europe's birthrate and also basically annihilating our demographics because they make up easily 10% of our births.
Maybe we could stop immigration and focus funds on artificial wombs and then have the government bring up kids.
Sometimes, when I read the usual shit reporting from the usual liberal shills I think to myself, someone should go and seriously hurt/kill this guy and his family. You know, giving them the enrichment they so vehemently demand for large parts of the population, but of course not really for themselves, so by adopting Muslim culture and killing the author over something he wrote I would do a good liberal deed right?
If our integration system wasn't awful we'd still be having the problems we do today because of our intake not being limited to fellow Nordics.
Depends on the ethnic group. Only 40% of Somalis ever get a first job for example.
But even "model minorities" (i.e. the best of a bad lot) like the Yugoslavs have employment rates below 70%, which means they aren't paying for their own use of welfare, despite coming here in the mid-80s and early 90s.
Looking at it from a generalized perspective on average our immigrants take 7 years to get their first job and never approach employment levels high enough to repay their social costs to the state.
Those numbers are massaged by fake temp jobs by the state and includes returning Swedes and fellow Nordics however, so the real numbers are in likelihood even worse.
About 90% of males born in Sweden are employed.
Around 70% of males born outside of Sweden are employed, but keep in mind that these account for people coming from other European and Nordic countries who are easily integrated or migrate TO work.
Finding statistics on people born outside the EU is a risky path, mostly far right try to come to conclusions which cannot be trusted, and the state has not released any official documents on this specific topic.
Very nice greentext Klaus!
Of course it has to do with attitude of the immigrant, but to some extend, the integration system is to blame, putting them in segregated areas where most of their kin lives in isolation, never learn our B E A U T I F U L language which makes it very hard to find a job.
according to the UN sweden will be a 3rd world country in a few decades
i dont think it will take that long. its over germany.you thought you could hide a obvious play for control over europe by using kebabs as both your henchmen and later as your scape goats that you throw under the buss to justify a united EU military and use it on europe. its almost worked but thank god women dont understand the economy and germany doesnt have 4 years of faggotry to use as it likes
>putting them in segregated areas where most of their kin lives in isolation
They're not being "put" anywhere. They move their own their own the second they're able to.
>never learn our B E A U T I F U L language which makes it very hard to find a job.
Which always comes down to themselves.
The question is if they will actually do anything. Technically Germany controls its borders again, too. But we are still getting more of them and none of those who are already here are getting deported.
Geez they really want that welfare money
Did you decrease or increase your immigration numbers Hans? Or is Merkel standing strong? Would like some proper information about the situation in Germany instead of more banter.
Damage has been done doesn't matter now. Sweden is going to be majority Islam in 10 years.
Immigrants don't get jobs because our economy doesn't need them. We simply have no use for low-skill labor. And even if we did it would still be stupid to let them in because of the obvious consequences of replacing Swedes with non-Swedes.
Last time they gave an update the number of new arrivals was down by half. However, that was when the weather got worse and was always attributed to that by each news source - if it had been because of border controls the media would have definitely mentioned it.
Merkel still gives a new speech every few weeks where she tells us to shut up and suck more invader dick, in her New Years speech she was ranting against "Germans who think Germany belongs to them".
The only blame you can put on the immigration system is that it encourages the foreigners to be lazy shits by coddling them.
They would have needed zero tolerance policies from the beginning - no welfare, if you get convicted your ass is deported faster than you can say "dindu nuthin", language tests after two years that have to be passed or else your residence permit is revoked and so on.
You mean because we missed the rest?
there are still around 3000undeported entering germany every day though .... which is again over 1mio refugees for 2016
Are you implying that any of the people currently arriving will ever pick up work? (Apart from the fact that they are currently not even allowed to pick up work in Germany)
If this had been about too few children, they could have given incentives to the native population instead of taxing more and more of their income to pay for foreign invaders.
Just calculate the average lifetime costs for one Durka Durka and offer 25% of that for the first child and 10% for the second child.
>no welfare, if you get convicted your ass is deported faster than you can say "dindu nuthin", language tests after two years that have to be passed or else your residence permit is revoked and so on.
Very sensible ideas. Would any of these be seen as controversial if put to a public vote? I'm talking about immigration in general rather than "refugees" in particular.
>Would any of these be seen as controversial if put to a public vote?
Probably. Hard to say. If you ask people directly they will of course say that it is a disgusting suggestion because that is what they have been taught all their life, but if you word it less directly (i.e., do you want less crime? do you want lower taxes?) all of them would agree. They just don't realize that it is what they actually want.
No, everyone employed in jobs which require human contact knows Swedish. I've never encountered a cashier who does not know Swedish well enough to do their job.
These are just my experiences.
I can get behind the idea that we would need stricter policies, but putting such pressure on people who just fled from Syria is... Problematic.
>putting such pressure on people who just fled from Syria is... Problematic.
No, it is not. Those people have no way to go from Syria to Sweden without crossing at least half a dozen other safe countries. Their "I-I'm a refugee" excuse ceased to exist the moment they entered the first of those.
The ones you (and Germany too) are getting are economic migrants and there is no reason to coddle them and encourage them to be ungrateful little shits. If they want a higher standard of living, they should work for it like everyone else.
It's kind of astonishing, the situation is already unsustainable, yet they are still unwilling to close the borders and instead only lessen the flow a bit.
Same goes for Germany btw. They cannot keep all those gyms and buildings requisitioned forever.
> mfw all politicians say it's impossible to close the border
at least winterchan has finally arrived
That was pretty much what I expected. When that cunt broke down in tears after announcing that tighter regulations would have to be put into place it was already clear that they will do their best to make those regulations as pointless and ineffective as possible.
They are on the mental stage of children, they think if they just ignore the problems they will disappear on their own.
She's from the Green Party. Remember when the equivalent in your country said that it's a good thing that there is a genocide on Germans? She's the same. The government have less support than SD though.
>govt hasn't stipulated that you need a passport, just some sort of "photo ID"
>they'll let you in with a fucking Kabul public library card.
Sweden still YES!
Pia was right all along.
Why didn't you listen?
>at least winterchan has finally arrived
Forecasted -40 over here in a week or so
Every country that drops out of this self-imposed genocide increases the pressure on everyone else. A few more closed borders or at the latest Britain leaving the EU should put an end to this.
this is btw great shit for us, Germany already drives back those rejected by Sweden to Austria, and now we will have a lot more stranded here. Our government didn't have the balls yet/the balcan countries don't cooperate to drive them further south
So, Austria now officially fucked for the moment. There are still coming 3000-4000 every single fucking day
What I find amazing is that they do not realize that their only authority comes from having borders to begin with.
If there are no borders, there is no state. Therefore they aren't representing shit.
Nordic countries restricting the flow funnels more immigrants towards France / Spain / UK which will mean more of an anti-EU sentiment in those countries - can only be a good thing.
Eases aging demographics, undermines wages, creates demand for basic necessities, fully grown labor without the requirement of spending any money on raising or educating them.
Would be nice if European states could just encourage children instead.
i guess everyone is waiting for someone to make the first step and then say "see they did it as well"
>fully grown labor without the requirement of spending any money on raising or educating them
But you have to raise and educate their six kids without the parents ever having contributed anything to society.
It probably is impossible to close the border with reasonable effort. Also unneccesary. Let them come and throw them out as soon as possible.
This way people understand that spending thousands on the journey wil not get them anywhere.
But our inept government wants to keep them here
>fully grown labor without the requirement of spending any money on raising or educating them.
But that is the critical flaw, neither are they educated nor willing to work and, more importantly, contribute to the system.
I meant are there people working there in customer facing jobs who speak English but not Swedish. Everyone I've spoken to in any customer facing job in a European city spoke fluent English so I wondered if companies were employing people based on their English rather than their ability to speak the native language.
they don't see "germans" they see "europeans"
but then a wild poland appears
>i guess everyone is waiting for someone to make the first step and then say "see they did it as well"
Literally Finland: The Politics
We never do anything first, no matter how much the people and the politicians themselves want to do those things.
Pretty much. They are all eierlose Feiglinge, none of them would ever take an action when they cannot shift the blame for the consequences onto someone else.
All it would need is one single politician in a position of power who actually has a spine. All he needs to do is kick off the first stone.
The fire rises
This is the ultimate proof that SD was always right. I wouldn't even be surprised if they get over 50% next election, it would be consistent with their current growth rate.
Working a till = dealing with customers. You need to speak the same language as the customer. Stacking shelves is easier but you still need to understand what to put where, which means at least a rudimentary grasp of the language. A better example might be picking / packing fruit but the Eastern Europeans already have those jobs sewn up, at least in the UK.
people firing at asylum shelter
polish football fans (subtitles) must watch till the end
>I know this sounds inflammatory and like trolling but it's not.
Not, it doesn't. Because they don't even try to hide it. They even openly say it, whenever one of the Durka Durkas goes and does some shit it was obviously the German's fault because we didn't hug them enough or some shit like that.
German politicians fucking hate Germans, they see them as slave class that sadly still has some rights, they'd love nothing more than strip us of those and go full China.
I really feel bad that because of fucking refugees, niggers, crooks in European governments and dumb people who allow themselves to be brainwashed that everything bad is good, the cool concept of Europeans moving around Europe freely without any border checks is going to be shat on.
Never, they are literally based on being anti-immigration. While the media is ridicilous in calling them nazis, they were born out of a union of ultra nationalists and nazis. They are more like the Front national then PS.
To be fair, apart from truck drivers regularly crossing the borders the advantage was never that huge to begin with. At least I could get pretty much anywhere with a German passport, the only difference was that I saved a bit of time because I didn't have to show it at the border.
The media did change though, that's the thing, our media isn't ONLY extremely left and liberal, aka S, V and MP, they also post what they think the majority wants to read, like any newspaper. So when SD gains more popularity they can't write about SD being full nazi mode anymore because then they lose readers. As the media changes direction those who don't have a political idea or stance will stop becomming brainwashed leftist fagguettes.
It feels like I have been watching my wife cheat with a black bull for years and she just now pulled out and said she would go home with me.
Jesus christ what an upstir of emotion, this must be how cucks feel after the sex.
Well no, Im not saying the shit media like Aftonbladet, expressen or SVT will go right, not even neutral. But they have become less extreme, any change away from left is a good change. I mean come on, SD has 25%+, ofc they can't go out and call 1/4th of the Swedish voting population nazis.
Also, the newspaper SVD posted how 2015 was their best year for a veery long time, pretty obvious it's not because their quality increased but because they gained readers from the other papers
Hey, are you angry over something, trying to vent out a little, bub?
Perhaps the American lack of culture, or maybe worrying if your little brother is going to get shot in class?
No shame in crying because of your horrid medical care or expensive college education, let it all out honey
We brought niggers over as slaves and our history directly involves Mexico.
Tell of the links that your country shares with sandnigger infestors?
Oh that's right.. nothing. You broughtem over just because you are creating.. wait for it.. the ... first ... HUMANITARIAN SUPERPOWER!!!!!! HAHAHAHA FAGGOT HAHAHAHAHA
Because my country is huge and has the most white peope in sheer numbers compared to any other western country. I can go to states as large as your country and be surrounded by only white people that aren't ashamed of being white or American.
You have no where.
You also have a much larger number of niggers and shitskins both proportionally and in numbers. I do have places I can go where there are no shtiskins, but pls keep telling me about my country, fatposter.
Your point is that the old system of assimilation / "When in Rome.." worked better? No shit.
American negroes have longer roots in Clapistan than most American whites. There are despite this gigantic differences in outcomes for these people.
How do you deal with alcohol?
Dont think i have ever met someone from Greenland who weren't a massive alcoholic, except maybe two or three guys from my faculty.
Also why do you guys keep voting for socialists?
>sweden temporarily closes borders because they physically can't cope with the number of immigrants
>they'll open them again as soon as they can because swedish government loves muslim cock
>this is cause for celebration
its the numbers that does this, not isolation. if they were few and isolated into their personal areas, they would likely learn the language naturally like people often do.
we have them allover in finland, if the numbers were 1-10 per place it might have been fine, but now its 100-200 in many places and that is already enough for them not to bother with finnish language, but we already know this
there is just no way in hell to get them to be your countrymen when you look at reality, in nonreality tho you can imagine like its a game, take every refugee and put one in one apartments with people. force communism into every neets and other peoples lives.
on side note now that there is shitton of refugees, we have daily reports of rapes, rape attempts, fights and such, thanks for non politically correct media(ofc there is still some like yle but fuck yle they got bunch of fags and written rule to promote multiculti hell)
so you can imagine the reality of sweden, germany and other places if this is the case with finland. its already fucking mayhem but we never hear from it, where politically correctness and media silence is promoted heavily, leaving the main information to the inviduals. its easy to force people when one bows down to his job so much that he is ready to go hell for it and take unjust punishments. perhaps when there is enough people who just dont care, make their own seperated system within country so finally reality can take its rightful place
A lot of acquaintances, but I'm kinda selective with who I consider friends (or is it 'whom'?). You kinda know the majority of people you were born in the same year, anyways. That saying that you know everybody is almost true. Daily activities are going out, taking a walk or visit family. At least during the holiday, other than that it's work. Nuuk is relatively modernized.
It's kinda mixed, it's pretty comfy. Mostly comfy.
I rarely drink, if at all. Had a girlfriend who drank a lot but since we broke up I haven't had interest in alcohol that much. I saw alcoholics in Denmark, it was embarassing to say the least. Hope they'd just go home and start something with their lives. As for why they/we keep voting, I can't tell you. I assume people (especially younger voters) just blindly vote.
About 10 of my friends have commited suicide, we do have the highest suicide rate after all.
That fucking picture
Migrants are people who are desperate and many are definitely willing to work hard. I don't think the answer is just turning people away and saying fuck off to them and their situation. There can be a way for people to be able to work and prove that they are useful enough to society to get to stay rather than them all getting turned away at once. Maybe I'm too optimistic but migrants are not just pieces of garbage that society can throw away. They are going to keep searching until they find a country that will let them stay. If its not Sweden's problem then it will soon become someone else's.
This is the obvious solution in germany, sweden etc. The fact that this isnt even considered and instead we get muslims really makes you think. Im not one who aleways yells da joos but it sure is weird
Almost none of them work and of those that do, they do the absolute minimum and try to do it behind the back of the government to cheat our tax system. None, literally none of these million refugees is educated enough for a STEM field important job.
They've been brainwashing people with the idea of overpopulation for about 20 odd years, though, Fritz, and still doing it through the climate change bullshit. They probably found it easier to import than to undo that damage.
It's so nice that you think these things anon
But it makes you look utterly retarded