TFW people still believe the wealth doesn't trickle down.

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>>59993871
>"Trickle down"
>not a liberal strawman

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All economic growth comes from investment, and investment comes from rich people
Economic growth helps the poor most of all; and it helps them far more than socialism does.
Better to have 4% of a pie which is getting a lot bigger all the time: than 5% of a pie which isn't growing at all.
Not only that but most poverty is temporary and if you take 5% of the stagnant pie you'll get taxed more later on
You won't ever be rich though, if you fall into the poverty trap and live on free shit your entire life.
Not only that but taxes interfere in other ways since people change their behaviour
Overall I think this is solid logic 8/10

In all fairness, the Russian middle class one looks pretty cozy.

>>59993871
why is western civilization so hellbent on comparing extremes at all times?

it's always the uber wealthy evil menacing old man with 50000 private jets vs the poor homeless man who's freezing outside

shit y'all gotta grow the fuck up

It trickles down through the ass cracks of the rich.

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>>59993871

meanwhile, in reality...

60000000 get

>>59995442
Economic freedom intensifies post

Too bad people in favor of socialism can't or refuse to understand these basic concepts.

>>59994072
^^^^^

>>59995576
Found the commie

>>59996133
>the poorest of the poor in America still have the same amenities and a greater living space then the average city dweller in the USSR

>>59996133
Rich in Canada? I'm jelly.

>>59995576

Little secret : it's not.

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>tfw people believe income inequality is inherently a bad thing.

>>59993871
Am I the only one who thinks the image on the left looks kinda comfy? I mean the apartments mostly, if you cleaned them up a little they wouldnt be too shabby, and the view is nice as well

The one on the left screams "probably going to get shot if you live here"

>>59996817
They couldn't win based on eliminating poverty, so they changed the rules

>>59995442
>poorfags should be glad with whatever they get
Investments benefits the rich the most.

t. Child of someone who made it big via investments

the social costs of socialism are also enormous. every problem in europe can be traced back to the people being given too many things by the government.

>>59996769
But it is m8. I lived my first 12 years in a gommieblock, and I had the best childhood ever. Together with the 15 boys from my block we were in a "war" with those from the neighboring one. We played football in front of it, made "expeditions" on the roof, made "secret bases" in the basements and so much more. Then my family moved to a house that's older than your country and I lost all those friends, except one.

>THE WEALTH TRICKLES DOWN

>FUCKING JEWS USING THEIR MONEY TO CONTROL THE WORLD!

- Statements from the same board!

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middle class in britain

>>59997604
Investment benefits the poor a whole lot
Just think about building a new factory in some Vietnamese village and then everyone there gets rich.
You're lucky I don't buy a new boat instead.
The difference to me might be minimal since I like boats about as much as factories

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working class in britain

>>59993871
Actually, American houses are built from wood and shit and cost 20 to 50 thousand dollars.

An apartment in the Russian house in your picture costs 120 to 200 thousand dollars.

Here, I just googled you a few examples
http://intermarksavills.ru/real_estate_search/buy-in-town/413443/
http://intermarksavills.ru/real_estate_search/buy-in-town/412424/

>>59997604
They are also the ones creating all the jobs and taking most the risk desu senpai.

>>59993871
Why no Russian poor? Did they all immigrate to the West in search of benefits?

Crikey.

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underclass britain

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>>59999186
Refugee class in Britain

>>59997952
Protip: Not from the same poster.

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upper middle class britain

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upper class britain

>>60001100
kek

>>60001698
That's upper middle, not upper.

>>59997841
12 year old's don't really understand economic realities. As long as you had food, you likely didn't care about your relative poverty.

jews etc

>>59997952
>he thinks hes on reddit

>>60001100
i kek, also nice dubs

>>60001867
What does that have to do with the apartment being cozy?

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>>59993871
Middle class Switzerland

>>60001867
He said it wasn't comzy. I said it is. Where did you get the economic realities thing from? And your argument is shit anyway. Me and my brother had our own bikes. We studied in good schools. Had new clothes, new toys, new cd players, TV for the parents and a TV for the kids and all that shit that you think only you had. But as I said, the most important thing was that we had a big group of friends.

>>60001404
Build that house of out 1 micron thin sheetrock and twigs, place it in tornado alley, and you have middle class America.

>>60001698
>>60001100 is more 1%/corporate/former aristocrat class

upper class were once moddle class, who were once working class before the last war

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>>59993871
Daily reminder that the upper class is growing at a faster rate than the lower class

>>59996817
I don't think it's inherently bad, but I think extreme income inequality as has occurred over the last 20 years here is bad. Economists agree that it is slowing the growth of GDP since it retards demand.

>>60002548
>middle class is becoming upper class
>liberals spin it and argue that the middle class is dying.
toplel.

>>59996485
> greater living space
outdoors is pretty big

Our poor people are all obese and have iPhones.

And yet all we hear is income equality and the evils of capitalism.

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This is what the US Federal Government builds with taxpayer monies to house subsidized welfare recipients. i.g. "Section 8"

Probably cost around $170,000 to build, not counting the land and development.

The person placed in such units pay less than $200 (or so) a month in "Rent" and their utilities are also subsidized so maybe only pay $40 for heat.

Source is from a "Project" area near Cincinnati Gardens, an area that is "Culturally Enriched".

>>60002548
When you discount synthetic equity, they are increasing in wealth at the same rate.

>>60002548
Are you also considering the fact that different think tanks will use different definitions for each group to suit their own agenda?

A more telling graph would give us income adjusted by area. Otherwise they could mean that Upper is simply anyone who makes 85K+

>>60002872
>Not building economically sound commieblocks for welfare leeches.
baka desu senpai.

>>60001849

Looks like a 4 million+ home. How is that not upper class?

It will happen >>60002403
What were they like inside?

>>60002548
>>60002635
> I don't understand
the underclass is vastly larger than the upper class, so a minor change will seem greater reflected in the smaller pool.

>>60002403

Haha, I love reading stuff like this.

Americans think they're the only ones living it up.

>>59993871
The damned Chinese ruined the housing market so now a 50sq foot box is 1.3 million dollars.

>>60002590
I don't get it. Countries with a higher savings rate grow quicker. It's a direct relationship
Honestly people are spending too much money, then they run out and need help.

>>60003078
It's not actually worth that much ;)

>>59997952
>implying you aren't employed by jews

Do they just not pay you money or something? Do you work for free?

>>59998589

They could be council houses easily. Terrace isn't middle class.

>>59999186

Underclass.

>>60001404

Upper-middle would be detatched not semi-detatched.

>>60003207
Hello neighbour.
Shit's not quite that bad here yet, but it's $600,000 minimum at the moment.

>>59996133
Yes canada, we're all proud of your cuckshed, no need to gloat

>>60003062
Oh, there used to be several tower blocks.

There still are some.

BUT the Welfare Leeches lobbied saying that it was "demeaning" or some shit to be in apartment blocks.
Said that there was no sense of "neighborhoods".

Keep in mind that they had utterly RUINED some of the nicer buildings that had been granted over for "Sction 8".

So the Gov has for past 20 years been building "traditional neighborhood houses" instead of apartment blocks, and the apartment blocks that are too far gone to repair get demolished and replaced with more single family houses.

>>59997604
>implying investing is not risky
>implying millions of rich people never went back to being middle class because of failed investment

People accept long hours and shitty pay because it's better than no hour and shitty pay.

I work 60 hours week in the ban which is owned by billionaires because I am way better off than working other jobs or not working

I don't care that I make nothing compared to the people at the top. I feel grateful they created that job for me.

>>59997604
>investment benefits the rich the most
>the people taking on all the risk benefit the most
>everyone that does nothing should benefit as much as the people taking the risk
wew

>>60003285

I guess location matters. I was looking for houses out there when I was planning on moving to a town near Manchester called Wilmslow for work. There were 5 million GBP houses that were smaller than that one.

>>59996133
tailors are more expensive than apartments fool those people just live like pigs.

>>60003207

Chinese are masters of flipping houses. I know a Chinese guy with a giant 9 million dollar house in Palo Alto. The guy only gets like $140k/year. He literally sells his home every year for more than double what he purchased it for. Been doing it since the 90s taking advantage of the tech boom. I get paid about the same and struggle with my 1M shitbox house in SF.

>>59999247
>American houses are built from wood and shit and cost 20 to 50 thousand dollars.
american houses are 100k and up, way more if in a big city

>>59996133
That is cozy as fuck.

>>59996485
>USSR

>>60003352
>Auckland is NZ

Pull your head in, sunshine.

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>>59993871

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjK9InGAa8

>>60005988
>Anywhere in New Zealand that isn't Auckland or Hobbiton.
>Relevant.
Pick one and only 1.

>>59995442
yeah but at some point the rich only get richer while everyone else gets poorer

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>>60006149
>government causes financial crisis
>capitalism is to blame

>government bails out banks
>capitalism is to blame

>>60007162
I mean cause they were protesting the bailouts

>>60007125
nah everyone gets richer senpai

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>>60002159
Why did my ancestors leave?

Why did they come to the shithole that is america?

>>60006244
Aucklands a cestpool of degeneracy.

If anyone ever decides to come to Kiwiland avoid Auckland.

>>60005374
EVERY trailer that has that kind of yard, reeks of dog piss and cigarettes.

>>60007355
That would imply there are any jobs outside of Auckland. But I agree about the whole cesspool part.

>>60007440
>jobs outside of Auckland.
Fair call.

>>59997724
I fail to see how letting in hoards of migrants has anything to do with national socialism.

>>59993871
It does trickle down. Down to Mexico. Down to China.

>>60006244
Where do you come from you self hating piece of shit. Hang yourself.

>>60004158
Pays to know Chinese criminals who need a store of wealth.

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Nigger class USA

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>>60007689
But China isn't below us.

>>60007689
We got fucked big time by free trade with China and Mexico. I don't generally support tariffs, but they'd be a good solution to this issue. Just tax any good not produced with EPA and OSHA standards.

>>59996133
>Landowner

>>59996133

Protip: rural americans are cattle, they don't count. They are socio-economic cucks.

>>60007787
Niggers only get 3/5 of the wealth trickled to them that normal people get.

>>60007787
Cod4 was a good game

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Rented an apartment in a commieblock on the northside of Kiev, was p cozy not gonna lie.

>>60001698
>tfw my dad's estate looked like that
I still miss Surrey desu

Still have yet to find anything quite like it in the US.

>>60007831
>said the city dwelling consumer who spends most of his money on living expenses.
Protip: if you fuel the consumer economy you are cattle, period. Your only pushing this system along further, many multitudes more than the rural American, who buys far less than you.

>>60007936
The picture looks nice because of the snow but I can't imagine it's a good place to live with all those slavs.

>>60007787
Get out of here, Stalker.

>>59993871
It doesn't. The marginal propensity to spend by wealthy people is magnitudes smaller than the rest of the economic classes.

If you give a rich person money. They won't spend it. In fact they will do everything to use it to get more of it. Nothing "trickles" down.

Although trickle maybe be an adequate description of the money flowing out of them.

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>>60008043

Slavs are the coldest fuckin people in public, but they're sweetie pies in private

>>59993871
i would rather live on the right if i'm paying far less

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>>59998589
Middle class in Florida (my house).

Older development, everything isn't too expensive. Newer developments look a lot nicer as well, and are typically 2+ stories.

>>60007936
what were you doing there

>>60008271
tampa?

>>60008295
Nah, opposite coast. Cocoa Beach.

Used to live in Tampa though.

>>60007861
underratred post

>>60008392
Comfy as fuck

>>59996133
Its a picture you fucking cuck. Look at the World Bank statistics - Thats reality fuckhead, not a picture.

>>59993871
But in Russia ask the rich already don't pay taxes and invest overseas.

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Midwest cuckshed $120k?

>>60008617
The rich don't pay taxes in America either.

>>60008788
$199k

>>60008805

They pay the most taxes. Don't be a cuck, especially when talking about other nations

>>60008805
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/13/top-1-pay-nearly-half-of-federal-income-taxes.html

Top 1% pay 45.7% of all federal income tax

>>59993871
The "trickle down" meme is one of liberals' greatest successes. They were successfully able to convince even /pol/ that we are "giving" tax breaks to fat cat capitalists and corporations. As if the govt NOT taking away the money someone earns equates to some kind of generous gift.

When you take less from a business in taxes, that business can invest more of its revenue into expanding, which means hiring more people or buying more equipment (which helps other businesses hire more people). This works well when a business' growth is limited by taxes, and not so well for companies that are already beyond their capacity to expand more.

>>59998589

Probably costs 2000 pounds per month to rent if it's in London.

Or free if you're a "refugee" :^)

>>60001404
yeah, not upper-middle.
probably a bricklayer and a mother who works as a receptionist for the local amateur football club.

>>60007308
Too many clocks

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>>60007831
>urbanite scum

>>59996133
This is messy and poorly kept up.

That being said, trailers are worth a good bit of cash. That's a nice plot of land. I'd take that over an apartment. The lack of a rent payment and the land to grow your own food means the owner of this trailer probably has more disposable income than most of us.

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>>59993871

>>60008271
You in south tampa too ehh. I know this house.

>>59996133
thats actually some really nice land, i wouldnt mind living here if it came to it.

>>60009393
dont you have ducks to fuck in the back of your pickup truck you cuck?

>>60009787
don't you have to double check that your doors are locked and memorize what streets you can walk down?

>>60009534
trickle down is LESS government

>>60008392
>Stupid dog

>>60009827
there are no niggers here, their skin freezes off.

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>>59993871

It's even worse, when you divide it by women vs men.

>>60008341
Nigga what? i live in cocoa beach

>>59996133
>implying that trailer isn't on owned land
>implying that trailer doesn't have electricity and water

>>60002872
>welfare housing
>2 car garage

>>60008279
Overthrowing government...

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>>60001100
Sadly, this is true. UK sucks nigger dick harder than the USA does.

>>60009534
It sure is awful that I have clean drinking water and that human appendages aren't in my food.

>>60003121
>vastly larger
It's 7% larger. Also, in the given period, the upper class increased by 50% while the lower class increased by 20%. Therefore, the upper class is growing at a faster rate than the lower class.

>>60013682
***The rate of increase for the upper class was 50% while the rate of increase for the lower class was only 20%***

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>can see lake, forest and mountains from my computer seat

Thank Dog I was born in better part of Russia.

>>59994072
Kekkkkkk
As a polisci major, I lol'd

>>59996133

>no faded Confederate flag in the window being used as makeshift drapes

Come on Canada, learn to strawman properly.

>>60013884
>can see lake, forest, and mountains from my computer seat

Thank Dog I was born in the USA

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>>60013854

Heres why.

Rich people own highly desirable real estate. Even in poor times highly valued property doesnt drop all that much.

Poor people dont, so a hit in income shows 100%

Plus the spack-tarded policy of inflating the fuck out of the stock exchange, meaning if you had big money there 7 years ago it has doubled. (thanks 0% interest rates!)

>tfw an extremely small number of people control all the wealth in russia

>>60014118

Lol the "animal spirits" meme again. Stay butthurt Austrians.

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>>60008805
Bernie pls

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Raising Long Term Capital Gains taxes to like 30% isn't going to destroy economic growth. Use the added revenue to cut taxes on the middle class and spur demand at the bottom to reignite the economy. Also, let the poor starve to death. They contribute basically nothing so fuck 'em.

>>60001100
Dubs conferm

>>60014634
>spur demand

>>59999186
>working class
>working
these shitholes are filled with the people who refuse to work and get a free house out of it.

>>60002403
The bigger your group of friends the poorer you are. Doesn't mean you will be unhappy. Wealthy people can't comprehend that the poor can be happy.

>>60008788
that place looks cool, like somthing from Dantooine in Star Wars.

Prob cost like a million $ here in Ausfailia for absolutely no reason

>>59995576
If you like cockroaches :^)

>>59996485

i don't know about russian commieblocks but the point is that the apartments inside have everything needed, looks are irrelevant

>>59995442
Nothing makes investments mandatory for rich peoples, they can juste sit on their money and invest nothing

They can choose to put their money in bnak or 'invest' it in some virtual economy which don't create jobs at all such finance economy.

Overall, nothing says that in 20 years enough human work will be necessary to produce goods, and therefeore wealthy could invest on production and make profit without any benefits for the workers.

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>>59993871

various class, Serbia

>>60018606

What's with that arrangement? You guys hiding a death ray in the middle of that?

>>60018726
vaporize kebab

>>60019024
Ayyy