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>family owns lands since the 1870s
>fed has wanted your land for years to turn into a wildlife reservoir (i.e. make money)
>never sell to them regardless of their constant jewry
>2001, routine bush fire on property
>tell fire department beforehand, accidentally 100 acres of federal land, put it out yourselves
>2006, lightning storm starts bush fire on your property
>start backfire to push it away from your private property
>cops show up next day and press charges , go to court
>get tried and convicted, sentenced to a year in jail
>go to prison for roughly one year
>get let out, government says you've served your time
>2011, feds want your land again, still won't sell
>feds issue re sentencing convicting you of domestic terrorism
>minimum of 5 more years in federal prison
>now convicted of terrorism and must serve 5 more years in prison
>150 men and women strong armed milita with tons of ex-military occupy gouverment building
>boolicker liberals call them terrorists, don't look into what happend
>claim if they would be muslim or black they would be treated like terrorists so they can do their moral circle jerk and make it about race
>some are so tolerant to want these rednecks to be murdered by the feds (you don't negotiate with terrorists suddenly)
>paid /pol/ shills call them traitors, ignore them
Will this finally be the thread where people read the cases instead of making bullshit up? Probably not but here they are.
MFW when /pol/ watches the Rebel scum get jackbooted by the Feds.
>dude wants to use Donald Trump's land for his cause to eat and shit FO FREE
>Trump says no
>They accidentally burn a bunch of Trump's land covering up an unrelated crime
PSYCH. It's not Trump, its the federal government
I find it strange that anyone even showed up to arrest them.
Were they watching in hopes of the "lightning caused fire" wiping out the ranch and butthurt that they stopped it?
What's this I hear about the ranchers poaching a bunch of dear?
any stories, links, proof it didn't happen.
It doesn't matter one way or the other because the ranchers already either served time for it or were found not guilty.
The poaching accusations come from before the first time they went to court, therefore they have already been addressed in a court of law and have no further bearing on this situation.
He probably had a herd of deer that wouldn't get off his land so he killed them, happens all the time. In this case the government wants needs a reason to arrest him so they will call it poaching.
>these people know that the gov won't send SF after them
FTYF. Are you even trying?
Do you even realize the backlash that would cause? Drones included, as you faggots are apt to post? I understand you don't support this, but do you understand what it would mean? Are you actually advocating droning US citizens on US soil?
County Sheriff announces that the people holding the parks building are attempting to overthrow the authority of the County and Federal Government. He has requested assistance to resolve the situation "quickly",.
>Sheriff David Ward said protesters came to Harney County, in southeastern Oregon, "claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers." In reality, he said, "these men had alternative motives to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.”
>In a statement issued Sunday afternoon, Ward said he was working with local and federal authorities to resolve the situation as quickly and peacefully as possible.
Yes. If you haven't noticed, there are plenty of people who want these men to be killed immediately with no trial via air strikes simply because they occupied a federal building.
Its absolutely insane.
>FULL LEGAL REPORT http://patterico.com/2016/01/03/what-are-the-bundys-protesting/
>SENTENCING JUDGE CLOSING COMMENTS
>As to the father Dwight Hammond’s single arson conviction, the judge said:
Well, the damage was juniper trees and sagebrush, and there might have been a hundred dollars, but it doesn’t really matter. It doesn’t affect the guidelines, and I am not sure how much sagebrush a hundred dollars worth is. But I think this probably will be — I think mother nature’s probably taken care of any injury.
Regarding the five-year mandatory minimum for both defendants, the judge (Judge Michael Hogan) said:
I am not going to apply the mandatory minimum and because, to me, to do so under the Eighth Amendment would result in a sentence which is grossly disproportionate to the severity of the offenses here.
And with regard to the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, this sort of conduct could not have been conduct intended under that statute.
When you say, you know, what if you burn sagebrush in the suburbs of Los Angeles where there are houses up those ravines? Might apply. Out in the wilderness here, I don’t think that’s what the Congress intended. And in addition, it just would not be — would not meet any idea I have of justice, proportionality. I am not supposed to use the word “fairness” in criminal law. I know that I had a criminal law professor a long time ago yell at me for doing that. And I don’t do that. But this — it would be a sentence which would shock the conscience to me.
Even if it were wrong why would you side with the government?
Exercising your constitutional right to bear arms during a a legal protest on public grounds is not the same as illegally occupying a federal building. Baffling that I have to explain that.
Remember when armed black lives matter patrolled the streets and threatened to kill cops over Ferguson and shit? No?
"oink oink bang bang a pig is a pig that's what I said, the only good pig is a pig that's dead"
Peaceful protest guys, move along. Just expressing their constitutional rights :^)
Upstanding black citizens.
What about when they "occupied" a police station with guns and threatened to kill police again over Sandra Bland, who is confirmed to have killed herself. Lmao
JUST A PEACEFUL GATHERING OF NOBLE UPSTANDING AFRICAN AMERICANS EXPRESSING THEIR 1ST AND 2ND AMENDMENT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
Why are liberals and the news so fucking stupid?
>burn stores down
>loot for months
>set fire to cars
>shootings break out
>do all crime just about
>dont blame them!
>white people do 1/1000th of that
>WHITE DOMESTIC TERRORISM!!!!!!!
This is a picture that originally appeared on reddit for the record. OP is a huge faggot. I also hate fags that say "murica," which I'm sure some shit-eating little kid will reply to this post.
>posting lies in threads full of facts and screencaps in hopes of getting people to dismiss the situation based on your post instead of reading for themselves
Why do you come to every thread?
You'd have more effect in reddit.
Here's the fun part of all this: The dumbfucks that keep talking about how insurgencies have worked in other countries don't seem to realize that in Vietnam and the ME, they had the silent support of the majority of their fellow citizens because they were defending against actual invaders. Americans view these hilarious LARPER types as dangerous retards with deadly toys. Not freedom fighters. Not anything other than unhinged criminals.Damn, how delusional can you fuckers be?
What is happening to the Hammonds is UN Agenda 21/2030. look up Rosa Koire on YouTube. they want everyone off rural lands. government wants control over all land and water rights. they want people living in mega cities in small stack and pack communities. they are doing this in the name of sustainability and going green by the hoax of man made global warming. they are doing it little by little so people dont connect the dots but if you read up and learn the real reason behind UN Agenda21 it ties it in all together including the wanting to disarm American citizens which we cannot allow to happen..its what kept you guys on your land...armed citizens against our tyrannical government. ..wolf in sheep's clothing!
Not lying, I read the court docs.
He started a fire and it burned BLM land. Now he reaps the rewards
Also its not double jep because its an appeal
MAH NIGGAH IF HE WANTED TO SUE THE GOVERNMENT HE COULD HAVE, BUT HE TOOK THE PLEA. HIS FAULT
cant wait to see the faggots get waco'd. Too bad, cause the BLM sucks
>not reading the image
the retard is you kiddo
>people are calling for drone strikes on this family
>Kraut is too cucked by kebab at home to talk about local shit, so he looks across the pond
>Sees about a dozen trailer trash confusing a prison sentence for arson with tyranny
>They walk into an empty building and claim to have conquered it with 140 other people who don't exist
>The people targeted for the arson charge didn't invite the militia in the first place, who just fucking showed up, and now don't even want the militia's help anymore and are trying to settle with feds in a non-crazy manner.
>Trying to trigger some bullshit Second Civil War
>The mental gymnastics involved to make this shit make the militia seem like the "good guys" is absurd
They must be fucking heroes
Liberals, you mean. Who can hardly bear the word "American", anymore.
When lefties decided to protest against the First Amendment two months ago, they became "on the wrong side of history".
Hahahahahahahahahhahahaha, ahhh shit, that's perfect.
Do you realize just how many potential supporters a militia movement would have?
>Man burns down some forestry
>Goes to prison
>Gets out of prison
>"It was actually terrorism!"
>Goes back to prison
>Gets out if prison
>"Rape is power plus privilege, so technically he raped the land!"
>Goes back to prison
>Gets out of prison
>"Someone in the town died from lung cancer from the smoke from the fire, that's murder!"
>Goes back to prison
>Gets out of prison
>"That smoke caused damage to the environment, which is eco-terrorism! Which is different than normal terrorism!"
>Goes back to prison
>Dies in prison
People will defend this.
US suburbanites are the worst people
>shit on europe
>shit on rural US
These are the people who will turn in their guns the moment they're asked and called everyone else backwards
They're ground zero of the cultural subverison. No wonder the rest of the world hates us.
A reminder that it only took 5 men to absolutely destroy the Silicon Valley power grid for a day and cost California over 15 million dollars in one day alone. They were never caught.
The amount of anti-white racism that is being displayed all over the interwebs because of this story is downright frightening. There are people openly calling for fucking drone strikes on american soil mostly based on the fact that these people are white. Let that sink in.
There's a storm brewing.
Apparently the people who were charged with arson, the Burns family, are not part of the militia, and have agreed to turn themselves into the feds. The Burns actually did exactly what you said.
The occupying militia is a group of people who saw the Burns' situation as a perfect excuse to go be "patriots" by breaking into an empty building, sitting around with a couple of guns, and shitposting all over the media.
>I found it on /k/, so it must be true
Either way, you're totally right. If a 5 man strike team can knock out a substantial area's power and equate to upwards of 15 millian dollars in losses, what could 10 do? 20? 150?
>I found it on /k/, so it must be true
Are you really that stupid to think it wouldn't be that easy? Once the habbening habbens shit will come unglued from every seam we have. Trust me, if civil war ever comes to America again, we are just as polarized if not more polarized than the North and the South were.
>I found it on /k/, so it must be true
True? Who knows.
The U.S. military couldn't control Iraq, a nation of only 30 million people. Do you really think they could handle the 100 million or so armed right-wing Americans? I don't think they could, and I bet they don't believe it either.
God you liberals think all that exists is your beautiful seaside cities. Try coming up to Alaska, I'd wager 90% of the people here would contribute to if not outright join a movement.
I read the biography of Timothy McVeigh, the guy who did the Oklahoma City bombing. He said something similar, along he lines of if he had it to do over again, he would've chosen targeted assassinations and sabotage. He claims he could've remained under the radar for as long as wanted.
He was remarkably principled. He allowed himself to be arrested because it was a state trooper who got him and his beef was with the feds.
>if you oppose the government you deserve to die!
>In August 1994 the BLM & FWS illegally began building a fence around the Hammonds water source. Owning the water rights and knowing that their cattle relied on that water source daily the Hammonds tried to stop the building of the fence. The BLM & FWS called the Harney County Sheriff department and had Dwight Hammond (Father) arrested and charged with “disturbing and interfering with” federal officials or federal contractors (two counts, each a felony). He spent one night in the Deschutes County Jail in Bend, and a second night behind bars in Portland before he was hauled before a federal magistrate and released without bail. A hearing on the charges was postponed and the federal judge never set another date.
How evil can you be?
Some governments have stood. The mainland of Britain has been one entity for a while. Swathes of Russia as well. China. The ancient kingdoms that are still around as well
But theyve certainly had their ups and downs
>100 dollars of sagebrush damage from a self defense fire against burning federal lands should equal minimum five year prison sentence and terrorist designation
>not knowing that the fire damage was literally a natural process anyways because it would have been burned had they not started the backfire
>yfw the feds actually owe them for the little federal land they did save
You're making an awful lot of assumptions here.
I'm not sure what you're saying here. I live in the middle of the country. I've lived in cities, suburban areas, and rural areas. I've also worked on several farms.
I just don't honestly believe that X number of people would participate in coordinated, armed rebellion against the government. Most people are pretty complacent, but there's also not some deep division in the country like during pre-Civil War times.
It's just deluded to even remotely believe this would ever happen in our lifetimes. I think you may have spent too much time on /pol/.
> The FWS also began restricting access to upper pieces of the Hammond’s private property. In order to get to the upper part of the Hammond’s ranch they had to go on a road that went through the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge. The FWS began barricading the road and threatening the Hammonds if they drove through it. The Hammonds removed the barricades and gates and continued to use their right of access. The road was proven later to be owned by the County of Harney. This further enraged the BLM & FWS.
They wont until the economy collapses after the fed defaults. It must default eventually, because you guys can't pay it back (would take centuries) So when the value of American debt collapses so do markets related to debt markets. Housing market will crash and so will derivatives markets as equities tumble on low margin.
Is it time to get some of that?
I don't want to side with tyranny.
I don't see what those people being charged with arson has to do with Bundy. Can someone explain?
Also he's saying public land means it should be for the people, which is true, but then taking it over and ruling it like a 13th century fiefdom, which suggests he either doesn't understand, or doesn't really believe his initial statement.
They havent beheaded or murdered or raped thousands of people or taken over countries or dont terrorists acts like 911 or the 7/7 bombings or paris etc for decades or participated in mass religious violence for over 1500 years
Complacent as some people are, there is definitely a growing sentiment of distrust of the government. You should really watch V for Vendetta sometime. When the people stand up, Tyranny backs down.
>inb4 is a movie
They might remain, but that doesn't mean they aren't tyrannical.
UMMM????? GUYS!!! IT'S 2016! WHY AREN'T WE CALLING X WHITE PEOPLE TERRORISTS?????
Right now as you read this, those Militialoons who have "occupied" the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge facility are being monitored by an RPV/RPA. Know what that is boys? Look it up. I hope these wannabe-cowboys-in-BDU's don't 'mis-behave themselves' or they just might find an AGM-114N flying up their ass. Get it? (Pic *very* related) hint...hint... Best you behave Militiaboys. OK?
has nothing to do with what was stated
there's nothing about tyranny in this situation other than some fudds trying to usurp rule of law
good, welcome to the club
>implying the national debt matters
Awwww, conservatives are cute
But actually, pretty much every first world country has debt. A lot of them have similar (or more) debt as a percentage of GDP.
Politicians like to use big scary numbers like 18 TRILLIONZ AHHHH
but we just have that much debt because there are 300+ million people in the country.
Make your own conclusion.
Tl;dr Government puts rancher in double jeopardy, trying to charge him with terrorism after he had already served time for arson. A militia responded by taking over a fish and game station. No shots fired, nobody has been hurt.
How is it that /pol/tards don't understand that this makes them look bad? How is holding a government building with an armed militia making them seem reasonable? They deserve all the shit they are getting.
For a start you don't go with fucking guns.
To be fair, the USG's motivations would be very different if they had to deal with a domestic insurgency. You think they'd follow the same ROE when fighting for their continued existence as when fighting the spread of communism?
So, Twitter is all buzzing with news that the 150 members are in fact just 23 people. Anyone got sauce on contradiction? I'm in the middle of a war with half a dozen blm twats calling these guys terrorists. Trying to explain looting to terrorism to blm members is surprisingly and ironically, very difficult.
Everyone against them supports federal tyranny and agenda 21.
You're all fucking slaves.
>go on facefuck or twatter
>IF DEY WAZ BLACK DEY BE KILLED ALREADY
What the fuck do these fucking liberals actually want? "Please kill these honkey protesters and give black lives matter protesters more money for dem programs".
>elect black president
>race relations worse they've been in a long time
Because they see the inaction of duh gubberment, as proof of white supremacy in the police. " Hol up, if they was niggers they already be deed"
That kind of shit.
Quite entertaining really.
Sooner or later pic related is going to be necessary.
Its difficult because they are terrorists...the people occupying the building had no direct involvement with the court proceedings. They are occupying federally owned/public land with weapons, and denying access. Thats chimping out bruv
No, you're right, it was the source. But they stil harrassed him and then just stopped with the whole thing when he complained.
But they explicitly bought the right to the source.
What I'm most surprised about is even some /pol/acks are not supporting these guys fighting against a constitutionally over-stepping BLM, which is a part of the same government that floods America with foreigners and makes it legal to discriminate against whites.
I don't understand having any sympathy for the US Gov in 2016 as a white male.
Pretty much boils-down to Alex Jones having wet dreams of big $$$$ selling his water filters and "nutritional viagra pills" starting tomorrow!
usually its because hicks refuse to pay taxes when they let their cattle graze.
It was the same with fucking bundy in nevada, but retards only look at these issues with a very narrow field of view.
>which is a part of the same government that floods America with foreigners and makes it legal to discriminate against whites.
This is the real basis of their, and your, antigovernment position.
That people called for drone strikes on these people is unbelivable
Shortly after the road & water disputes, the BLM & FWS arbitrarily revoked the Hammond’s upper grazing permit without any given cause, court proceeding or court ruling. As a traditional “fence out state” Oregon requires no obligation on the part of an owner to keep his or her livestock within a fence or to maintain control over the movement of the livestock. The Hammonds intended to still use their private property for grazing. However, they were informed that a federal judge ruled, in a federal court, that the federal government did not have to observe the Oregon fence out law. “Those laws are for the people, not for them”.
(f) The Hammonds were forced to either build and maintain miles of fences or be restricted from the use of their private property. Cutting their ranch in almost half, they could not afford to fence the land, so the cattle were removed.
(g) The Hammonds experienced many years of financial hardship due to the ranch being diminished. The Hammonds had to sale their ranch and home in order to purchase another property that had enough grass to feed their cattle. This property included two grazing rights on public land. Those were also arbitrarily revoked later.
Chimpig out implies they are doing it for no reason other than personal gain.
The men in there know that their lives are essentially over. At best they will be on a thousand watchlists for the rest of their lives, at worst they will die, yet they are doing it anyway. They are doing it because they perceive an injustice, a case of double jeopardy which is unconstitutional. They have reasonable, well cited reasons for doing what they are doing.
In addition, chimping out implies a mindless riot. These men have an issue with the federal government, so they are protesting at a federal government building. Niggers rampage through the streets looting everything in sight.
The Federal government, going along with UN Agenda 21 plans, wants to take possession of rural lands and force people into urban areas. The ranchers know this because it's directly happening to them. They want us in monitored, controlled cities for easier population control.
Militants need to use this time to spread their message, except they don't seem to have a message.
They sent terrorising anyone, there is no looting or burning of buildings.
Not a single bathroom roll was harmed.
This is the post peaceful protest I've ever seen.
Not so much as a raised voice.
>comparing land to cash handouts
nigga are you retarded. This would literally be the rural version of putting tolls on all city roads. Do you know how many urban faggots use public property everyday.
Hey did you read this bootlickers?:
> In September 2006, Dwight & Susan Hammond’s home was raided. The agents informed the Hammonds that they were looking for evidence that would connect them to the fires. The Hammonds later found out that a boot print and a tire tracks were found near one of the many fires. No matching boots or tires were found in the Hammonds home or on their property. Susan Hammond (Wife) later said; ” I have never felt so violated in my life. We are ranchers not criminals”. Steven Hammond openly maintains his testimony that he started the backfire to save the winter grass from being destroyed and that the backfire ended up working so well it put out the fire entirely altogether.
>non american posting democratic propaganda that outright lies by speaking for an entire country without anything to actually back up the claim.
fucking ell go shove your bullshit back up your ass.
while technically whether you agree with them or not by definition they are domestic terrorists in the eyes of the governmental law.
but that just means the law needs to be changed in the case of if you agree with them on this matter.
the government can, has, and will continue to be wrong and only act in its own interest and not the peoples, unless the people are willing to stop them when necessary.
i personally, dont feel the case matters so much as i feel they have the right to stand up for themselves if they feel the government has wronged them, which is what they are doing, much more civilly and less destructively then many other groups have in the past thats for sure.
It was *also* the bundies. The hammonds also had issues, including required upkeep on the property (part of the purchase agreement) that approached $400,000
Who is the stupid fuck now
No they can, they just have to compensate them with money or give them another property which they are not willing to do, which is why they're jewering.
If this goes as planned they will get $400k from the family and the ranch for free.
>(g) The Hammonds experienced many years of financial hardship due to the ranch being diminished. The Hammonds had to sale their ranch and home in order to purchase another property that had enough grass to feed their cattle. This property included two grazing rights on public land. Those were also arbitrarily revoked later.
>(h) The owner of the Hammond’s original ranch passed away from a heart attack and the Hammonds made a trade for the ranch back.
They can't have owned it since the 1870s if they fucking sold it in the 1990s.
I did. I also know the hammonds were hundreds of thousands of dollars behind in repairs and upkeep. Including digging fire lines to prevent the storm fire that is in dispute
You wannabe-Jefferson's want anything to convince yourselves...well I got bad news. Jefferson was a Federalist
I don't care if militias start feuds with the feds over a napkin blowing in the wind, I think it's great. Any 3 letter organization doesn't have your best interests in mind. Bundy Ranch got rekt and that video with the "THE WEST HAS NOW BEEN WON" moron makes me feel comfy every time.
The media doesn't cover the in depths of it, because they want you to think it's 20 loonies against the feds and they have no chance. In reality, the feds pull one trigger and shit hits the fan.
This next generation is hopeless when it comes to acting in an anti-government manner anyway. As long as they can be spied on while they dick around on their new iDevice and watch sports on the weekends, they're content.
Also, don't even bring two uncorrelated events together and compare and contrast. Black lives matter is fueled by niggers, not black people running rampant and shoving WE MATTER in your face, while funded by George Suros. The 2nd amendment is FOR militias. When the people feel the government is overstepping their boundaries, that is when it is necessary to use the amendment to your advantage. Even if this is a terrible/bullshit example of it, I stand behind the militias everywhere no matter what. FBI, CIA, NSA and whatever other secret organizations they have going on are the real domestic terrorists.
>militia are state sanctioned
>the entire point of a militia is to ensure the citizens can rise against the state if required
why is pol supporting these overly dramatic kooks? They listend to too much alex jones and had too much super male vitality and now they gunna pay the price for their stupidity
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, I'm coming into the thread cold.
I recall reading somewhere that part of this was a Constitutional objection, something about the feds only being allowed to take so much land and that they've taken more than that allotment.
I've run title as a paralegal and worked in real estate, and we're taught that at the inception of the US government, ALL land belonged to the feds. And then they allow us to own it, buy and sell it as they see fit.
Can anyone clear up this confusion?
terrorism is a politically motivated act of terror/violence. It's not defined by race religion or creed holy shit are you still in high school? There just so happens to be a bunch of radical muslim terrorists as well but that doesn't mean that they're "redefining terrorism"
>Including digging fire lines to prevent the storm fire that is in dispute
Yeah, that's the issues, if you read the article you would have noticed how the shitty blm tries to get them bankrupt by shit like this.
I don't know how you overread this, they blocked the way to the upper ranch, they build an illegal fence to block their water source and harrassed them when they complained, they told them to build a fence for their cattle (which oregon law doesn't require)
I appreciate you as a poster because you dont justify it by saying the law supports them
"Be hot or be cold, but be luke warm and I will spit you out"
Even though I hate you, neber change
>I did. I also know the hammonds were hundreds of thousands of dollars behind in repairs and upkeep.
because the government wants their land. They've been finding ways to charge them more and more in order to get them to settle and sell their land. That's why there's a protest. Not because of taxes, but because the government is using them to strong hand them into giving up their land.
like I said in my op, it's the same as if a city wanted to buy your neighborhood and build a mall. Everyone sells but you so the city starts putting tolls on roads around your house and raising property taxes in order to get you to move.
After re-reading it sounded like I'm a nigger sympathizer. I'm not, but the niggers are just too stupid to realize they're being used as pawns and think they're benefiting from the protests. This isn't Rosa Parks sitting in a bus because the color of her skin didn't allow her to. This is police feeling threatened and taking action. Every time they put on their uniform they're a target and don't know what they'll encounter on every traffic stop even. They have a shit ton of balls and imagine dealing with stupid fucking niggers every day, one day you're gonna unload a clip into one of them anyway.
There is people on /pol/ right now who is defending this anti-white tyrannical government.
there's no turning back for these militia men. they've taken over a federal building and if they know what's good for them they'll surrender now and face justice. What they're doing is terrorism.
Most of these agencies has purposefully convoluted rules that are designed for you to break them, some even contradict each other. If you threaten them with court for have backwards regulations they do everything they can to fuck you in the butt
I have no sympathy for the blm
>They come fuck two farmers who are convicted of stabbing the government land on fire.
>There is people on /pol/ right now who is defending this anti-white tyrannical government.
They are either paid agents or.....
Are you payed by the BLM or something?
So bullying people out of their home and putting them into prison for 5 years so you can build your national park and make shekels is ok to you?
>understanding the law and working inside those boundaries to provoke an illegal reaction to a legal action
>being a feral nigger without a clue going armed to the terror of the public
Who survives longer?
All Im saying is that they knew what they agreed to when they signed the contract. No one forced them to sign the land
If they knew they wouldnt make enough to cover the necessary upkeep, thats their fault
I just feel like there is underlying causes and agendas. The militia is essentially just like /pol/ in the sense they wait for HAPPENINGS and then go places unwanted and stir up shit that probably would've went away without their intervention rather easily, because the feds push over anyone they can.
I think they're motivation no matter what the case is, is just to prove the people have power to say a big fuck you to the powers that be and have a fun time doing it. Just go into a gun store and listen to the conversations, a lot of these people would never harm a fly, but as soon as the government tries to disarm the public, these people are TRULY not fucking around. A lot of people are waiting on a happening, no matter what the case.
The obvious implication I hoped to get across in my post, retard, was that the "socially conscious" left are trying to take flak from actual and alarmingly more common terrorists by redefining terrorism to mean peaceful armed protests or occupation of federal buildings, through the repeated use of terrorist to describe peaceful armed protest or occupation of federal building.
This is not a new tactic and is the same tactic they are using on violence by describing online harassment as having a violence committed against them and saying we need to crack down on cyber violence.
This was repeated to the UN and deliberated upon for some time.
>the feds will crush this rebellion. these militia men sealed their fate with their treason.
>Did they trespass BLM land?
No as i said they stopped with the fence FOR THE PURPOSE OF BLOCKING WATER FLOWING THOUGH when they threatend to complain, because IT WAS FUCKING ILLEGAL