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OLD THREAD: >>59968605

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbGdMKpHDDE [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7M0mG6HUyk [Embed]

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/

/pol/ tl;dr:
>family owns lands since the 1870s
>fed has wanted your land for years to turn into a wildlife reservoir (i.e. make money)
>never sell to them regardless of their constant jewry
>2001, routine bush fire on property
>tell fire department beforehand, accidentally 100 acres of federal land, put it out yourselves
>2006, lightning storm starts bush fire on your property
>start backfire to push it away from your private property
>cops show up next day and press charges , go to court
>get tried and convicted, sentenced to a year in jail
>go to prison for roughly one year
>get let out, government says you've served your time
>2011, feds want your land again, still won't sell
>feds issue re sentencing convicting you of domestic terrorism
>minimum of 5 more years in federal prison
>now convicted of terrorism and must serve 5 more years in prison
>150 men and women strong armed milita with tons of ex-military occupy gouverment building
>boolicker liberals call them terrorists, don't look into what happend
>claim if they would be muslim or black they would be treated like terrorists so they can do their moral circle jerk and make it about race
>some are so tolerant to want these rednecks to be murdered by the feds (you don't negotiate with terrorists suddenly)
>paid /pol/ shills call them traitors, ignore them

THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyO5sb-lSQI
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>>59975498
CAN'T TREAD
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Will this finally be the thread where people read the cases instead of making bullshit up? Probably not but here they are.
http://landrights.org/or/Hammond/Hammond-v-United-States-Oregon-Petition-for-Writ-of-Certiorari-Filed-June-17-2013.pdf
http://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/oregon/ordce/2:2011cv00823/103287/47/0.pdf?ts=1411570298
http://deathandtaxes.com/hammond_civil.pdf
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so another thread where nothing happens? keep me posted when authorities show up.
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MFW when /pol/ watches the Rebel scum get jackbooted by the Feds.
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>>59975498
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>>59975687

tl;dr

>dude wants to use Donald Trump's land for his cause to eat and shit FO FREE
>Trump says no
>They accidentally burn a bunch of Trump's land covering up an unrelated crime
>Trump sues
>Trump wins

PSYCH. It's not Trump, its the federal government
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>>59975730
10 threads, 1000000 replies, 20 hours later
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>>59975795
look mum i posted it again
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TO UNDERSTAND THE PROTESTERS MOTIVES

WATCH THESE TWO VIDEOS FROM THE MAN BEHIND IT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi51uqMDQkA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7M0mG6HUyk
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Per my Jew sources, the FBI is going to Burns ATM
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>>59975498
I find it strange that anyone even showed up to arrest them.
Were they watching in hopes of the "lightning caused fire" wiping out the ranch and butthurt that they stopped it?
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What's this I hear about the ranchers poaching a bunch of dear?

any stories, links, proof it didn't happen.
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>>59975795
But for real though, you know the best hiding spots in the town you grew up in. Everyone attacking you would have a disadvantage
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>>59975851
That's not Sam Hyde
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so is the amount confirmed to be about a dozen?
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Has anything new happened or have you guys just been going over the
>this is right
>no it's wrong
all day?
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>incorrect story still being posted

keep up that narrative /pol/
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>>59975911
It doesn't matter one way or the other because the ranchers already either served time for it or were found not guilty.

The poaching accusations come from before the first time they went to court, therefore they have already been addressed in a court of law and have no further bearing on this situation.
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>>59975911
Prosecutors allege that they set the fires to cover up poaching activity on federal land. I have no idea if it's true.
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>>59975808
>covering up an unrelated crime

proof?
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>>59975911
These oregon state judges already handeled 100+ similar cases from these evil hick ranchers. I would trust them.
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>>59976064

I have no idea how setting a brush fire would cover up poaching. Poaching is simply killing an animal out of state allowed hunting season or without a state permit.
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THE NIGHT THEY DROVE OL DIXIE DOWN
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>>59975911
He probably had a herd of deer that wouldn't get off his land so he killed them, happens all the time. In this case the government wants needs a reason to arrest him so they will call it poaching.
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>>59975498
pictures like this are silly, essentially mocks true patriots.
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>>59975498
>Oregon thread!
>Texas flag

Germany pls...
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>>59975795
>these people know that the gov won't send SF after them
FTYF. Are you even trying?

Do you even realize the backlash that would cause? Drones included, as you faggots are apt to post? I understand you don't support this, but do you understand what it would mean? Are you actually advocating droning US citizens on US soil?
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HAPPENING!

County Sheriff announces that the people holding the parks building are attempting to overthrow the authority of the County and Federal Government. He has requested assistance to resolve the situation "quickly",.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/01/03/militia-members-occupy-us-building-in-oregon-after-protest/78226600/

>Sheriff David Ward said protesters came to Harney County, in southeastern Oregon, "claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers." In reality, he said, "these men had alternative motives to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.”


>In a statement issued Sunday afternoon, Ward said he was working with local and federal authorities to resolve the situation as quickly and peacefully as possible.
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I've gone for the past two hours. Has anything new happened?
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>>59976255
Feds won't let them be martyrs. They will end this uneventfully.
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>>59976220
Yes. If you haven't noticed, there are plenty of people who want these men to be killed immediately with no trial via air strikes simply because they occupied a federal building.

Its absolutely insane.
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>>59975498
>FULL LEGAL REPORT http://patterico.com/2016/01/03/what-are-the-bundys-protesting/
>SENTENCING JUDGE CLOSING COMMENTS
>As to the father Dwight Hammond’s single arson conviction, the judge said:

Well, the damage was juniper trees and sagebrush, and there might have been a hundred dollars, but it doesn’t really matter. It doesn’t affect the guidelines, and I am not sure how much sagebrush a hundred dollars worth is. But I think this probably will be — I think mother nature’s probably taken care of any injury.

Regarding the five-year mandatory minimum for both defendants, the judge (Judge Michael Hogan) said:

I am not going to apply the mandatory minimum and because, to me, to do so under the Eighth Amendment would result in a sentence which is grossly disproportionate to the severity of the offenses here.

And with regard to the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, this sort of conduct could not have been conduct intended under that statute.

When you say, you know, what if you burn sagebrush in the suburbs of Los Angeles where there are houses up those ravines? Might apply. Out in the wilderness here, I don’t think that’s what the Congress intended. And in addition, it just would not be — would not meet any idea I have of justice, proportionality. I am not supposed to use the word “fairness” in criminal law. I know that I had a criminal law professor a long time ago yell at me for doing that. And I don’t do that. But this — it would be a sentence which would shock the conscience to me.
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>>59975498
>Thread theme is the same shitty song.
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>>59976123
Dude, the court documents are like the third post
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>>59975872
do we even have any updated info from the past 12 hours?
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>>59976021
Even if it were wrong why would you side with the government?
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>>59975795
There are still liberal retards out there that think the government would have complete control of the military if civil war broke out.
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>>59974663
Exercising your constitutional right to bear arms during a a legal protest on public grounds is not the same as illegally occupying a federal building. Baffling that I have to explain that.
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Remember when armed black lives matter patrolled the streets and threatened to kill cops over Ferguson and shit? No?

"oink oink bang bang a pig is a pig that's what I said, the only good pig is a pig that's dead"

No?

Peaceful protest guys, move along. Just expressing their constitutional rights :^)

Upstanding black citizens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feY0diCOp-Y

What about when they "occupied" a police station with guns and threatened to kill police again over Sandra Bland, who is confirmed to have killed herself. Lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZHFjxTsMx4

JUST A PEACEFUL GATHERING OF NOBLE UPSTANDING AFRICAN AMERICANS EXPRESSING THEIR 1ST AND 2ND AMENDMENT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

:^)

Why are liberals and the news so fucking stupid?

>burn stores down
>loot for months
>set fire to cars
>shootings break out
>"peaceful protest"
>do all crime just about
>dont blame them!

>white people do 1/1000th of that
>WHITE DOMESTIC TERRORISM!!!!!!!
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>>59976201
This is a picture that originally appeared on reddit for the record. OP is a huge faggot. I also hate fags that say "murica," which I'm sure some shit-eating little kid will reply to this post.
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>>59975613

DANGER! DO NOT STEP ON SNEK!
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>>59976403
>pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon
>oh we just meant to cook bacon not put cops in the electric chair
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>>59976403
Did any of them occupy federal land and threaten to fire on LEO when asked to leave?

If not, it's not the same thing.
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>>59975808
>posting lies in threads full of facts and screencaps in hopes of getting people to dismiss the situation based on your post instead of reading for themselves

Why do you come to every thread?
You'd have more effect in reddit.
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>>59976338
Should be this cause a Wacoing is coming.
https://youtu.be/ii-4teVplZ8
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>>59975795
There are a lot more fats with guns that there are Navy SEALS™.
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>>59976220
Here's the fun part of all this: The dumbfucks that keep talking about how insurgencies have worked in other countries don't seem to realize that in Vietnam and the ME, they had the silent support of the majority of their fellow citizens because they were defending against actual invaders. Americans view these hilarious LARPER types as dangerous retards with deadly toys. Not freedom fighters. Not anything other than unhinged criminals.Damn, how delusional can you fuckers be?
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>>59976544
Beautiful choice anon, beautiful.
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>>59976472
Did you even watch the videos? Armed nigs went to a police station to protest Sandra Bland and chanted shit about killing cops
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>>59975872
This seems like one side of the story.
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>>59976665
Did they occupy federal land and threaten to kill LEO when asked to leave?
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>>59976624
Do they? Or is just what the vocal ones on the internet think?
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>>59976624
At least I'm not a shitlib
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>>59975498

What is happening to the Hammonds is UN Agenda 21/2030. look up Rosa Koire on YouTube. they want everyone off rural lands. government wants control over all land and water rights. they want people living in mega cities in small stack and pack communities. they are doing this in the name of sustainability and going green by the hoax of man made global warming. they are doing it little by little so people dont connect the dots but if you read up and learn the real reason behind UN Agenda21 it ties it in all together including the wanting to disarm American citizens which we cannot allow to happen..its what kept you guys on your land...armed citizens against our tyrannical government. ..wolf in sheep's clothing!
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>>59976544
>>59976634
Lads!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2klh2cTa_Q
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>>59976472
>Doing this to the feds is somehow worse than private persons

And yes, nigger lives matter threatens cops every fucking day.
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>>59975795
Just a reminder
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>>59976750
Rural retards are poor because their way of life doesn't generate any real income, they start becoming more unhinged and get in trouble with the law.

News at 11.
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>>59976719
He just answered your question. Yes.
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>>59976634
I fucking love Billy Joel Shaver.
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>>59976754
And they mostly get shot for it.
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>>59976534

Not lying, I read the court docs.

He started a fire and it burned BLM land. Now he reaps the rewards

Also its not double jep because its an appeal

MAH NIGGAH IF HE WANTED TO SUE THE GOVERNMENT HE COULD HAVE, BUT HE TOOK THE PLEA. HIS FAULT

cant wait to see the faggots get waco'd. Too bad, cause the BLM sucks
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Fucking terrorists deserve to die like the rats they are.
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>>59976719
YES YOU FUCKING NIGGER FAGGOT
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>>59976624
>LARPERS
Most accurate description to date. Fucking grown men Rambo LARPERS
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>>59975795
Yes.
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>>59976706
From what I understand, BLM people won't comment other than the old pretrial slanders the prosecutors originally pushed.
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>>59976758
Full retard
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>>59976903
That's normally how legal disputes are handled. The case was already settled. The morons even took the plea deal.
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>>59976730
What an eloquent and thought provoking response
Kill yourself
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Why aren't there any dank memes, I don't know who to root for without them
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>>59976948
>>59976978
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>>59976948
How so? The Viet Cong waged a successful guerrilla war against a vastly superior American army and held out until we just gave up.
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>>59976948
>not reading the image

the retard is you kiddo
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>>59976948
Nice rejoinder, dumbass.
Those bootblack fumes are affecting your mental prowess.
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>>59977029
You can't respond with anything other than a meme.
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>>59977015
>people are calling for drone strikes on this family
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>>59975986
From what I gather, the latter. I check in every once in a while in between shitposting elsewhere and watching niggerball.
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>Second Civil War to wash away the trash
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>>59975498
>Kraut is too cucked by kebab at home to talk about local shit, so he looks across the pond
>Sees about a dozen trailer trash confusing a prison sentence for arson with tyranny
>They walk into an empty building and claim to have conquered it with 140 other people who don't exist
>The people targeted for the arson charge didn't invite the militia in the first place, who just fucking showed up, and now don't even want the militia's help anymore and are trying to settle with feds in a non-crazy manner.
>Trying to trigger some bullshit Second Civil War
>The mental gymnastics involved to make this shit make the militia seem like the "good guys" is absurd

They must be fucking heroes
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>>59977071
The Vietcong had the backing of the vast majority of the vietnamese.
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>>59976624
>Americans view
>Americans
Liberals, you mean. Who can hardly bear the word "American", anymore.

When lefties decided to protest against the First Amendment two months ago, they became "on the wrong side of history".
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>>59977126
That wasn't even me, retard.
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>>59976862
Hahahahahahahahahhahahaha, ahhh shit, that's perfect.
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>tfw gubmint nukes oregon because of this
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>>59977196
Just like american rebels would if the government turned tyrannical.

Stop being autistic.
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>>59977169
More than likely a Second Civil War to further corrode the CONstitution.

Until you purge the ruling class you will continue to be enslaved.
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>>59977196
Do you realize just how many potential supporters a militia movement would have?
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>Man burns down some forestry
>"Its arson!"
>Goes to prison
>Gets out of prison
>"It was actually terrorism!"
>Goes back to prison
>Gets out if prison
>"Rape is power plus privilege, so technically he raped the land!"
>Goes back to prison
>Gets out of prison
>"Someone in the town died from lung cancer from the smoke from the fire, that's murder!"
>Goes back to prison
>Gets out of prison
>"That smoke caused damage to the environment, which is eco-terrorism! Which is different than normal terrorism!"
>Goes back to prison
>Dies in prison

People will defend this.
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How are cuckolds at the media pushing the narrative this time?
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Man the feds sure do love trying to steal some property.

I would say we need a constitutional amendment but i'm pretty sure this shit is already covered
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>>59977399

>it was real in my mind
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>>59977407

a lot less than the dipshits here on /pol/ ironically enough
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>>59977345
KEK
ACCURATE
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>>59976676

I WANT TO DIE A FREE MAN
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>>59977407
They just want to emphasize how if those were black of muslim they would be instantly nuked, the story doesn't really matter
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>>59977407
The government is always right.
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>>59977399
>I eat raw beef
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US suburbanites are the worst people
>shit on europe
>shit on rural US
These are the people who will turn in their guns the moment they're asked and called everyone else backwards

They're ground zero of the cultural subverison. No wonder the rest of the world hates us.
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>>59976750
Eat shit and die
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>>59977497
Even if those numbers had a 50% loss, that's still a gigantic number to deal with.
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>>59977140

What a bunch of shitlords
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>>59977544
Teach me your ways wise one
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Too far away for me. I'm up in Tacoma. When the revolution comes closer to me, I'll revolute.
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>>59977399
The Feds are trying to drive him off his land.
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How can I join them?
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>>59977509
I noticed this and it's driving me crazy. Anyone have that picture, it was BLM compared to the Bundy's, "peaceful protesting vs. domestic terrorism" or something like that?
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>>59977632
This.

A reminder that it only took 5 men to absolutely destroy the Silicon Valley power grid for a day and cost California over 15 million dollars in one day alone. They were never caught.
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>>59977544
Suburban living is like a prison: everyone worked to build this huge thing and police themselves not to leave it. It's like a self-perpetuating torture.
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>>59977717
Tacoma?
More than likely you'll be too busy sucking cock.
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people inside that building are stupid

why wouldn't they just settle it court

bet those dumbfuck also think Muslims is a race and Israel is our greatest ally

>trump will save us all durr
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>>59977509
/discussion

call peaceful white patriots terrorists

call inhuman violent psychopathic criminal murderous rioters and bombing animal terrorists "heroes"
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>>59975498

The amount of anti-white racism that is being displayed all over the interwebs because of this story is downright frightening. There are people openly calling for fucking drone strikes on american soil mostly based on the fact that these people are white. Let that sink in.

There's a storm brewing.
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>>59977865
/thread
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>>59977816
59977632 here. How do you know how many there were if they didn't get caught?

>inb4 radical right wing extremists
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>>59977160
playoffs senpai
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>>59977407
Evil dumb white rednecks disturb order of peaceful town.
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>>59977865
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>>59977938
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>>59977865
>>59977925
>samefag
>implying Trump could ever be stumped
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>>59977827
I do enjoy satisfying gentlemen with my mouth. I'm going to go on a dick fast when I go innawoods.
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>>59977865
>people inside that building are stupid
in what building are people?
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>>59975795
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>>59975911
You can't prove something didn't happen, genius.

First prove it did happen.
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>>59978021
I'm on the Vikes bandwagon. I went to school at UofL when Teddy played; great kid. Class act.
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Why Americans will NEVER be disarmed, not while we are locked and loaded. Come and take them.
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>>59977865
Infuckingdeed
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>>59977936
Its a guess, the FBI said they suspect a "small team."
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>>59978122

we have the court records
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>>59977865
Apparently the people who were charged with arson, the Burns family, are not part of the militia, and have agreed to turn themselves into the feds. The Burns actually did exactly what you said.

The occupying militia is a group of people who saw the Burns' situation as a perfect excuse to go be "patriots" by breaking into an empty building, sitting around with a couple of guns, and shitposting all over the media.

>>59978110
>I found it on /k/, so it must be true
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>>59978139
Nice. Yeah I like Bridewater. Took me a bit to warm up to him, but he's grown on me.
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>>59977918
No, it's because these domestic terrorists are traitors.
They deserve to die like rats.
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>>59978230
Burns is the city not the family, retard
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>>59978180
Either way, you're totally right. If a 5 man strike team can knock out a substantial area's power and equate to upwards of 15 millian dollars in losses, what could 10 do? 20? 150?
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>>59978295
>peacefully resisting tyrannical land grab
>domestic terrorists
you are going to be held accountable coward
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>>59978310
i use this argument all the time when discussing taking in so many "refugees"
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>>59978397
No they're only terrorists because they're white :')
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>>59977345
A real life person actually believes this shit.
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>>59978230
>I found it on /k/, so it must be true
Are you really that stupid to think it wouldn't be that easy? Once the habbening habbens shit will come unglued from every seam we have. Trust me, if civil war ever comes to America again, we are just as polarized if not more polarized than the North and the South were.
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>>59978397
>tyrannical land grab

>it was real in my mind
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>>59978230
>I found it on /k/, so it must be true

True? Who knows.
Plausible? Definitely!

The U.S. military couldn't control Iraq, a nation of only 30 million people. Do you really think they could handle the 100 million or so armed right-wing Americans? I don't think they could, and I bet they don't believe it either.
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>>59978459
God you liberals think all that exists is your beautiful seaside cities. Try coming up to Alaska, I'd wager 90% of the people here would contribute to if not outright join a movement.
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THE DIRTY SOUTH!!!

DIXIE!!!!
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>i trust my government
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>>59978230

For rizzle?
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>>59978442
>>59978442
I read the biography of Timothy McVeigh, the guy who did the Oklahoma City bombing. He said something similar, along he lines of if he had it to do over again, he would've chosen targeted assassinations and sabotage. He claims he could've remained under the radar for as long as wanted.

He was remarkably principled. He allowed himself to be arrested because it was a state trooper who got him and his beef was with the feds.
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>>59978684
This. History is replete with governments going tyrannical. Why would we think our government is any different?
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>>59977918
Kind of scary that many people now welcome the very thing our founding fathers fought against.
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Well /pol/, is it time to refresh the tree of liberty?
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>>59977918
And of course none of them will admit it, the reason they are calling for the government to killl them is because they are themselves racist against whites.
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>>59978887
Seems like we're gonna need some blood of both patriots and tyrants.
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>>59978887

yup, kill every one of those militia fucks

we shouldn't have patience of people who try to usurp rule of law because of feelings
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>>59978295
>if you oppose the government you deserve to die!
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Proud of the burgers standing up to their tyrannical government and their financiers.
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>In August 1994 the BLM & FWS illegally began building a fence around the Hammonds water source. Owning the water rights and knowing that their cattle relied on that water source daily the Hammonds tried to stop the building of the fence. The BLM & FWS called the Harney County Sheriff department and had Dwight Hammond (Father) arrested and charged with “disturbing and interfering with” federal officials or federal contractors (two counts, each a felony). He spent one night in the Deschutes County Jail in Bend, and a second night behind bars in Portland before he was hauled before a federal magistrate and released without bail. A hearing on the charges was postponed and the federal judge never set another date.
How evil can you be?
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>>59978813

Some governments have stood. The mainland of Britain has been one entity for a while. Swathes of Russia as well. China. The ancient kingdoms that are still around as well

But theyve certainly had their ups and downs
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>>59978836
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>>59978481
>100 dollars of sagebrush damage from a self defense fire against burning federal lands should equal minimum five year prison sentence and terrorist designation

>not knowing that the fire damage was literally a natural process anyways because it would have been burned had they not started the backfire

>yfw the feds actually owe them for the little federal land they did save
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>>59978865
>People on the left breaking shit
>People on the right standing around
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>>59978596
You're making an awful lot of assumptions here.

I'm not sure what you're saying here. I live in the middle of the country. I've lived in cities, suburban areas, and rural areas. I've also worked on several farms.

I just don't honestly believe that X number of people would participate in coordinated, armed rebellion against the government. Most people are pretty complacent, but there's also not some deep division in the country like during pre-Civil War times.

It's just deluded to even remotely believe this would ever happen in our lifetimes. I think you may have spent too much time on /pol/.
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Why aren’t we calling the Oregon militia ‘terrorists?’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/03/why-arent-we-calling-the-oregon-militia-terrorists/
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>>59978887
It's definitely going to be an interesting year
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> The FWS also began restricting access to upper pieces of the Hammond’s private property. In order to get to the upper part of the Hammond’s ranch they had to go on a road that went through the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge. The FWS began barricading the road and threatening the Hammonds if they drove through it. The Hammonds removed the barricades and gates and continued to use their right of access. The road was proven later to be owned by the County of Harney. This further enraged the BLM & FWS.
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>>59978981
>defending tyranny
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>>59977407
The current media story seems to be ignoring the actual ongoing events and just talk about what would happen if they were black.
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>>59979027
why was the fence illegal?
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>>59979093
They wont until the economy collapses after the fed defaults. It must default eventually, because you guys can't pay it back (would take centuries) So when the value of American debt collapses so do markets related to debt markets. Housing market will crash and so will derivatives markets as equities tumble on low margin.
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>>59978947
Is it time to get some of that?

>>59978981
I don't want to side with tyranny.
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>>59978865
You'd think if SNAP actually paid for beer, people would buy a better beer.

Colt 45
>works every time
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>>59979115
Because they are right.

The government should not be invoking what is essentially double jeopardy.
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I don't see what those people being charged with arson has to do with Bundy. Can someone explain?

Also he's saying public land means it should be for the people, which is true, but then taking it over and ruling it like a 13th century fiefdom, which suggests he either doesn't understand, or doesn't really believe his initial statement.
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>>59979115
They havent beheaded or murdered or raped thousands of people or taken over countries or dont terrorists acts like 911 or the 7/7 bombings or paris etc for decades or participated in mass religious violence for over 1500 years

Lmao
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So who is right and who is wrong

I ain't reading all this shi, I just want to know who is in the right
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>>59979093
Complacent as some people are, there is definitely a growing sentiment of distrust of the government. You should really watch V for Vendetta sometime. When the people stand up, Tyranny backs down.

>inb4 is a movie
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>>59979115
Because they are not.
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>>59979049
They might remain, but that doesn't mean they aren't tyrannical.
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>>59977789
*QUINTESSENTIALLY CANADIAN*
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>>59979249
The hammonds bought these water rights from state of oregon for a shitton of money, blm build a fence so they wouldn't get any
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>>59978684
Laughed my ass off at Piers Morgan when he said the US government couldn't grow tyrannical to Ben "Kike" Shapiro
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>>59979115
UMMM????? GUYS!!! IT'S 2016! WHY AREN'T WE CALLING X WHITE PEOPLE TERRORISTS?????
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Time for a good old fashioned Texas barbeque, ATF style
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>>59978865
>>59978865
>some blacks loot
undermines entire cause
>some whites resort to terrorism
MURICA
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>>59979027
>>59979142
The BLM does this to everyone. They have ntohing better to do, but micromanage federal land for no good reason
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>>59979138
Will 2016 be the year that the pendulum swings hard right?
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>>59979027
source?
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>>59975498
>>59975498

Right now as you read this, those Militialoons who have "occupied" the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge facility are being monitored by an RPV/RPA. Know what that is boys? Look it up. I hope these wannabe-cowboys-in-BDU's don't 'mis-behave themselves' or they just might find an AGM-114N flying up their ass. Get it? (Pic *very* related) hint...hint... Best you behave Militiaboys. OK?
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please explain in 20 words or less, what is this thread about
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>>59979357
te build the fence on the property i guess that was the question
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>>59979080

has nothing to do with what was stated

>>59979148

there's nothing about tyranny in this situation other than some fudds trying to usurp rule of law

>>59979255

good, welcome to the club
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>>59979439
link in the op
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>>59978021
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>>59979480
what is this autism?
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>>59979491
niggas be mad
niggas take over gov building

And by niggas I mean white people
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>>59976676
I WANT TO DIE A FREE MEME
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>>59979504
Just read the fucking OP you dumb cunt
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>>59979491
Possible civil war happening. If the government kills a bunch of armed protesters it starts. I hope it starts, I'm bored.
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>>59976624
>https://www.rt.com/usa/americans-revolution-armed-percent-738/
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>>59979252
>implying the national debt matters

Awwww, conservatives are cute

But actually, pretty much every first world country has debt. A lot of them have similar (or more) debt as a percentage of GDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt

Politicians like to use big scary numbers like 18 TRILLIONZ AHHHH
but we just have that much debt because there are 300+ million people in the country.
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>>59979572
what do they want?
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>>59979491
>gouverment tries to expel farmer for land they owned for 150 years to make shekels with national parks
>150 millitamen occupy the park building to protest
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>>59979491

do you want /pol/s narrative, the media's narrative or the truth?
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>>59979592
>>59979491

fuckin' auto-scroll
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>>59979357

I still dont understand how its illegal. Having water rights doesnt mean you have rights to the source of the water, unless thats explicitly outlined
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>>59975498
Eh... Buddy... Hoss... Dude...

That's a Texas flag in that pic.
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>>59979562
Reads a little bit like a goon shitpost.
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>>59979491

Hicks graze cattle on state land. State makes them stop, hicks get mad and set fires. Now shit's getting real
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>>59979525
Here's the thing. I know the USG is tyranny, I'm just not sure if this militia is.
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>>59979304
Make your own conclusion.

Tl;dr Government puts rancher in double jeopardy, trying to charge him with terrorism after he had already served time for arson. A militia responded by taking over a fish and game station. No shots fired, nobody has been hurt.
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How can I join them guise pls halp
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How is it that /pol/tards don't understand that this makes them look bad? How is holding a government building with an armed militia making them seem reasonable? They deserve all the shit they are getting.

For a start you don't go with fucking guns.
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>>59977071

To be fair, the USG's motivations would be very different if they had to deal with a domestic insurgency. You think they'd follow the same ROE when fighting for their continued existence as when fighting the spread of communism?
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>>59979646
LOL no
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>>59979643
Ya mamas ass, faggit!
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>>59975498
So, Twitter is all buzzing with news that the 150 members are in fact just 23 people. Anyone got sauce on contradiction? I'm in the middle of a war with half a dozen blm twats calling these guys terrorists. Trying to explain looting to terrorism to blm members is surprisingly and ironically, very difficult.
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>>59979656
They built the fence on their ranch and harrassed them when they complained at the police, has nothing to do with a source
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>>59979429
I think it's going to polarize more than ever. Seeing how the public is responding to this, people are either saying they're heroes or terrorists.
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>>59979537
Thanks
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>>59979765
LOL no
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Everyone against them supports federal tyranny and agenda 21.

You're all fucking slaves.
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>>59979491

>Man has trial, agrees to go to prison monday and continue on with court proceedings
>other men come and take over govt building in protest
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>>59979491

See this>>59977645
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>>59979796
Wh is BLM against this?
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>>59979798

The feds built the fence on someone elses land? I hadnt heard that before. Are you sure thats right?
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>>59979850
this
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The gov will probably just dump dead fish on the building and wait them out.

fighting ruby-ridge types only makes them stronger.
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>go on facefuck or twatter
>IF DEY WAZ BLACK DEY BE KILLED ALREADY

What the fuck do these fucking liberals actually want? "Please kill these honkey protesters and give black lives matter protesters more money for dem programs".

>elect black president
>race relations worse they've been in a long time
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>>59979805
Yuri was right

A country can't remain stable and this polarized. We are long past demoralization.
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>>59979855
you forgot to mention the other men are men,women and kids from the other ranches and their friends who are fighting this injustice
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>>59979850
This tbqh family
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>>59979922
Because they see the inaction of duh gubberment, as proof of white supremacy in the police. " Hol up, if they was niggers they already be deed"
That kind of shit.

Quite entertaining really.
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>>59979805
Sooner or later pic related is going to be necessary.
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>>59979748
What is the other option? Let the feds throw him back in prison under phony terrorism charges?

When push comes to shove, eventually you need to shove back.
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>>59979796

Its difficult because they are terrorists...the people occupying the building had no direct involvement with the court proceedings. They are occupying federally owned/public land with weapons, and denying access. Thats chimping out bruv
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The government's reaction
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>>59979850
KILL THE POLICE
KILL THE WHOLE FORCE
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>>59979958
They want people to condemn these terrorists... not support them.
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>>59979937
No, you're right, it was the source. But they stil harrassed him and then just stopped with the whole thing when he complained.
But they explicitly bought the right to the source.
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>>59975795
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When I left the house around 1:00 today, we were on Thread #6. Six hours later we're on #10. That's moving pretty quick for a thread where nothing happens.
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>>59975498
What I'm most surprised about is even some /pol/acks are not supporting these guys fighting against a constitutionally over-stepping BLM, which is a part of the same government that floods America with foreigners and makes it legal to discriminate against whites.
I don't understand having any sympathy for the US Gov in 2016 as a white male.
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>>59980037

Go away you annoying prick. I was already at 25 words, and I disagree with you anyways. The Bundy's, for instance, don't even live in Oregon
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>>59979491

Pretty much boils-down to Alex Jones having wet dreams of big $$$$ selling his water filters and "nutritional viagra pills" starting tomorrow!
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>>59980161
Who are they terrorising?
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>>59980281
>What I'm most surprised about is even some /pol/acks are not supporting these guys

They aren''t /pol/acks they are paid government agents.
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>>59979687
usually its because hicks refuse to pay taxes when they let their cattle graze.

It was the same with fucking bundy in nevada, but retards only look at these issues with a very narrow field of view.
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>>59980333
Based trips confirm
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>>59980147

Go back to Britain, you tea sucking faggot
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>>59980281
>which is a part of the same government that floods America with foreigners and makes it legal to discriminate against whites.

This is the real basis of their, and your, antigovernment position.
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Anyone?

>>59979294
>>59979294
>>59979294
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That people called for drone strikes on these people is unbelivable

Shortly after the road & water disputes, the BLM & FWS arbitrarily revoked the Hammond’s upper grazing permit without any given cause, court proceeding or court ruling. As a traditional “fence out state” Oregon requires no obligation on the part of an owner to keep his or her livestock within a fence or to maintain control over the movement of the livestock. The Hammonds intended to still use their private property for grazing. However, they were informed that a federal judge ruled, in a federal court, that the federal government did not have to observe the Oregon fence out law. “Those laws are for the people, not for them”.

(f) The Hammonds were forced to either build and maintain miles of fences or be restricted from the use of their private property. Cutting their ranch in almost half, they could not afford to fence the land, so the cattle were removed.

(g) The Hammonds experienced many years of financial hardship due to the ranch being diminished. The Hammonds had to sale their ranch and home in order to purchase another property that had enough grass to feed their cattle. This property included two grazing rights on public land. Those were also arbitrarily revoked later.
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>>59980390
No.
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>>59980155
Based swaggot
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>>59980345

There's one of the Bundy family involved this time too
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>>59980281
Stockholm syndrome

They honestly think the government that sold them, their children, and on down the river dindu nuffin
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>>59980304
Yeah, but the bundies just hoped the train, this was started by people from the county.
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>>59980161
Chimpig out implies they are doing it for no reason other than personal gain.

The men in there know that their lives are essentially over. At best they will be on a thousand watchlists for the rest of their lives, at worst they will die, yet they are doing it anyway. They are doing it because they perceive an injustice, a case of double jeopardy which is unconstitutional. They have reasonable, well cited reasons for doing what they are doing.

In addition, chimping out implies a mindless riot. These men have an issue with the federal government, so they are protesting at a federal government building. Niggers rampage through the streets looting everything in sight.
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>>59978459
Nothing about that post is unrealistic.
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>>59980321

The town, which is dealing with probably thousands of feds, armed unmanned-aircraft all because of this pissing contest
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>>59976676
I want to die in this thread.
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>>59980439

The Federal government, going along with UN Agenda 21 plans, wants to take possession of rural lands and force people into urban areas. The ranchers know this because it's directly happening to them. They want us in monitored, controlled cities for easier population control.
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>>59975498

Militants need to use this time to spread their message, except they don't seem to have a message.

https://youtu.be/xrIgvYOf7UU
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>>59980591
Who are they terrorising?
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>>59980447

Fine, then just stay there
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>>59980155
What's that?
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>>59980613
The feds are terrorising the locals?
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>>59980156
Like I said, don't use guns. This is an SJWs wet dream to show how the evil white men with guns are dangerous. not even the BLM people are this stupid.
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>>59977029
I thought he was wearing pic related
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>>59979491
Dude you can literally buy a house there for ten thousand dollars.
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>>59980591

>occupy democrats

Into the trash faster than an aborted baby.
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>>59980738

Nah, dont get it twisted homie. The situation they created could be called terrorizing. Also, there are plenty of laws defining occupying a govt building as terrorism
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>>59980729
A man who took a stand.
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>>59980764
Let them be scared, we don't care.

The left has pushed, and pushed, and pushed, and now it's time to push back. Fuck their feelings and fuck their vote.
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>>59980764
They sent terrorising anyone, there is no looting or burning of buildings.
Not a single bathroom roll was harmed.
This is the post peaceful protest I've ever seen.
Not so much as a raised voice.
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>>59980311
underrated
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>>59980646
No one, the left wants to redefine terrorism to shift it away from muslims.
Kind of how they want to redefine violence so they can crack down on free speech.
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Multiple news crews on the way from Boise which is the closest major city at about 3 hours away.
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>>59980866
His name?
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>>59980932
lmao
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>>59980932
godspeed, confederate flag man
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>>59980854
Who are they terrorising?
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>>59980429
...They raised a militia to stop the government from harassing Bundy and they're doing the same here. Both were also at cattle ranches.
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>>59980969
This is my understanding too.
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>>59980932
godspeed, confederate fag man
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>>59980591
MFW they aren't from Oregon.
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>>59981041

Liberal sensibilities and fe-fes.
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>>59975795
Most people on the top are more likely to join to become people at the bottom.
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when is the fed gunna bust these innawoods fantasy roleplayers?
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>>59981041

Who was being terrorized in the MOVE bombings?

And now you see the point
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>>59981100
The milita isn't pointing guns at the police
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>>59981214
When Jamal is done with fucking your wife
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>>59980854
How come those laws don't apply to BLM (the Nigger version not the government thug version, hope I didn't trigger you with the thug word you dumb Nigger)
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>>59981100
Why are u shilling so hard?
Shitty info graphics you were told to post, no comment or text?
Lurk moar
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>>59975498
Its pretty big news here

http://nos.nl/artikel/2078475-gewapende-bezetting-overheidsgebouw-vs-duurt-voort.html

Google translate the entire page and it makes sense more or less
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>>59981100

Bernie needs to die.
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>>59978865
>comparing land to cash handouts

nigga are you retarded. This would literally be the rural version of putting tolls on all city roads. Do you know how many urban faggots use public property everyday.
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>>59981100
>150 people who know how to not threaten the police
>1 who doesn't
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>>59981275

What the BLM did was on property they owned. The protesters dont own this property

>nigger
>insult
>on internet
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Hey did you read this bootlickers?:

> In September 2006, Dwight & Susan Hammond’s home was raided. The agents informed the Hammonds that they were looking for evidence that would connect them to the fires. The Hammonds later found out that a boot print and a tire tracks were found near one of the many fires. No matching boots or tires were found in the Hammonds home or on their property. Susan Hammond (Wife) later said; ” I have never felt so violated in my life. We are ranchers not criminals”. Steven Hammond openly maintains his testimony that he started the backfire to save the winter grass from being destroyed and that the backfire ended up working so well it put out the fire entirely altogether.
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>>59981012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet
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>>59981397
It's not their property, that's the whole point of their jewery
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>>59981313

And we pay license fees, registration fees, insurance fees, and taxes to support that.

The Hammonds had not been paying those
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>>59980591
>non american posting democratic propaganda that outright lies by speaking for an entire country without anything to actually back up the claim.

fucking ell go shove your bullshit back up your ass.

while technically whether you agree with them or not by definition they are domestic terrorists in the eyes of the governmental law.

but that just means the law needs to be changed in the case of if you agree with them on this matter.

the government can, has, and will continue to be wrong and only act in its own interest and not the peoples, unless the people are willing to stop them when necessary.

i personally, dont feel the case matters so much as i feel they have the right to stand up for themselves if they feel the government has wronged them, which is what they are doing, much more civilly and less destructively then many other groups have in the past thats for sure.
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>>59981479
Thank you anon
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>>59981505
>The Hammonds had not been paying those
That were the bundies you stupid fuck
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>>59981499

So your one of those people who thinks the government cant own property?

Fine. I disagree
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>racist
>sexist
>liberal
>terrorist

what other words have been completely ruined and lost meaning in the 21st century?
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can't wat until the feds smash these fantasy roleplayers who think they're in a movie
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>>59981505
>The Hammonds had not been paying those
>liberals literally making shit up

proved my point
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>>59981585
Correct. The Hammonds were just uncooperative and threatened physical harm to government employees.
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>>59981680
>FBI pls go
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>>59981585

It was *also* the bundies. The hammonds also had issues, including required upkeep on the property (part of the purchase agreement) that approached $400,000

Who is the stupid fuck now
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>>59981615
No they can, they just have to compensate them with money or give them another property which they are not willing to do, which is why they're jewering.
If this goes as planned they will get $400k from the family and the ranch for free.
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>>59981628
Father, mother, family, child, learn, expression, freedom, liberty,
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>>59981745
>>59981750
Read the article in the OP
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>>59981680
You seen to be lost.
Here, this is the way home.
Www. Isuckberniescock.Net
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>>59975498

>(g) The Hammonds experienced many years of financial hardship due to the ranch being diminished. The Hammonds had to sale their ranch and home in order to purchase another property that had enough grass to feed their cattle. This property included two grazing rights on public land. Those were also arbitrarily revoked later.

>(h) The owner of the Hammond’s original ranch passed away from a heart attack and the Hammonds made a trade for the ranch back.

They can't have owned it since the 1870s if they fucking sold it in the 1990s.
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>>59981100
Bernie can't stop sucking nigger cocks, it's that simple.
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>>59981750
They already paid that
It was that plus another million that they have already paid, you retard
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>>59981750
not upkeep, it was a fine for the arson - half of which has been paid
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>>59976676
I WANT TO DIE A FREE MURICAN
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>>59981816

I did. I also know the hammonds were hundreds of thousands of dollars behind in repairs and upkeep. Including digging fire lines to prevent the storm fire that is in dispute

You wannabe-Jefferson's want anything to convince yourselves...well I got bad news. Jefferson was a Federalist
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>>59981828
Hey France.
Ask the pics you posted are already in circulation on Twitter by blm and bernie supporters.
Stop shilling, you just look like a prick.
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>>59981100
Boo Hoo
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I don't care if militias start feuds with the feds over a napkin blowing in the wind, I think it's great. Any 3 letter organization doesn't have your best interests in mind. Bundy Ranch got rekt and that video with the "THE WEST HAS NOW BEEN WON" moron makes me feel comfy every time.

The media doesn't cover the in depths of it, because they want you to think it's 20 loonies against the feds and they have no chance. In reality, the feds pull one trigger and shit hits the fan.

This next generation is hopeless when it comes to acting in an anti-government manner anyway. As long as they can be spied on while they dick around on their new iDevice and watch sports on the weekends, they're content.

Also, don't even bring two uncorrelated events together and compare and contrast. Black lives matter is fueled by niggers, not black people running rampant and shoving WE MATTER in your face, while funded by George Suros. The 2nd amendment is FOR militias. When the people feel the government is overstepping their boundaries, that is when it is necessary to use the amendment to your advantage. Even if this is a terrible/bullshit example of it, I stand behind the militias everywhere no matter what. FBI, CIA, NSA and whatever other secret organizations they have going on are the real domestic terrorists.
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>>59981828

>militia are state sanctioned
>state sanctioned
>the entire point of a militia is to ensure the citizens can rise against the state if required
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>>59981747
>>59981825

why is pol supporting these overly dramatic kooks? They listend to too much alex jones and had too much super male vitality and now they gunna pay the price for their stupidity
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Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, I'm coming into the thread cold.

I recall reading somewhere that part of this was a Constitutional objection, something about the feds only being allowed to take so much land and that they've taken more than that allotment.

I've run title as a paralegal and worked in real estate, and we're taught that at the inception of the US government, ALL land belonged to the feds. And then they allow us to own it, buy and sell it as they see fit.

Can anyone clear up this confusion?

Thanks.
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>>59981930
>>59981943

Read the court docs. No compliance with their purchasing contract contributed to the fires. Contractor estimates were included
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>>59980969
terrorism is a politically motivated act of terror/violence. It's not defined by race religion or creed holy shit are you still in high school? There just so happens to be a bunch of radical muslim terrorists as well but that doesn't mean that they're "redefining terrorism"
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>>59977918.
Yeah and there will be nigger blood.
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>>59982134
Because the /pol/ shitstorm and people like you crying about it is hilarious.
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>>59982001
>Including digging fire lines to prevent the storm fire that is in dispute
Yeah, that's the issues, if you read the article you would have noticed how the shitty blm tries to get them bankrupt by shit like this.
I don't know how you overread this, they blocked the way to the upper ranch, they build an illegal fence to block their water source and harrassed them when they complained, they told them to build a fence for their cattle (which oregon law doesn't require)
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>>59982092

I appreciate you as a poster because you dont justify it by saying the law supports them

"Be hot or be cold, but be luke warm and I will spit you out"

Even though I hate you, neber change
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>>59982001
>I did. I also know the hammonds were hundreds of thousands of dollars behind in repairs and upkeep.

because the government wants their land. They've been finding ways to charge them more and more in order to get them to settle and sell their land. That's why there's a protest. Not because of taxes, but because the government is using them to strong hand them into giving up their land.

like I said in my op, it's the same as if a city wanted to buy your neighborhood and build a mall. Everyone sells but you so the city starts putting tolls on roads around your house and raising property taxes in order to get you to move.
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>>59977918
it's fair teaming with niggers and spics and others of less than savory nature
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>>59982092
After re-reading it sounded like I'm a nigger sympathizer. I'm not, but the niggers are just too stupid to realize they're being used as pawns and think they're benefiting from the protests. This isn't Rosa Parks sitting in a bus because the color of her skin didn't allow her to. This is police feeling threatened and taking action. Every time they put on their uniform they're a target and don't know what they'll encounter on every traffic stop even. They have a shit ton of balls and imagine dealing with stupid fucking niggers every day, one day you're gonna unload a clip into one of them anyway.
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>>59982276

Why is it illegal for BLM to build a fence on their land. I dont understand
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There is people on /pol/ right now who is defending this anti-white tyrannical government.
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there's no turning back for these militia men. they've taken over a federal building and if they know what's good for them they'll surrender now and face justice. What they're doing is terrorism.
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>>59981762
The BLM isn't using eminent domain. They are way more slimy. Just grinding the people down with bureaucrats, fines, fees, harrassment and other skulduggery
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>>59980710
One of these points them at police officers and steals Swisher Sweets, charging officers when confronted.
>take a wild guess as to which one it is
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>>59982307

That doesnt have anything to do with their prison sentence. In fact, nothing having to do with this protest does
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>>59982449
There are rules to fences but the feds say fuck you I don't care
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>>59976676
I WANT TO DIE A FREE MAN
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>>59982449
It's not their land yet and because they bought the right to this water from the state of oregon
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>>59982490
who are they terrorizing? the termites?
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>>59980262
me desu senpai
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>>59982535

The upkeep is what the hammonds agreed to in the 90s when they purchased the land

Cry about it
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>>59982535
This
Most of these agencies has purposefully convoluted rules that are designed for you to break them, some even contradict each other. If you threaten them with court for have backwards regulations they do everything they can to fuck you in the butt

I have no sympathy for the blm
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>>59981282
>They come fuck two farmers who are convicted of stabbing the government land on fire.

Literally what.
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>>59980710
Aren't you supposed to be surrendering about now? You French cucks wouldn't know anything about standing for your rights.
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the feds will crush this rebellion. these militia men sealed their fate with their treason.
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>>59982669

That makes no sense. Can you provide the law or court case
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>>59982462
>There is people on /pol/ right now who is defending this anti-white tyrannical government.

They are either paid agents or.....
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>>59982728
Transrate to Engrish ???
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>>59982728
Are you payed by the BLM or something?
So bullying people out of their home and putting them into prison for 5 years so you can build your national park and make shekels is ok to you?
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>>59981100
>understanding the law and working inside those boundaries to provoke an illegal reaction to a legal action
>being a feral nigger without a clue going armed to the terror of the public

Who survives longer?
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>>59979115
>Why aren’t we calling the Oregon militia ‘terrorists?’

Because they're not terrorizing civilians in order to push their agenda.
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>>59982888
The feds control the whole area, except the Hammond ranch. It's literally 1000 on 1
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>>59982888

All Im saying is that they knew what they agreed to when they signed the contract. No one forced them to sign the land

If they knew they wouldnt make enough to cover the necessary upkeep, thats their fault
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>>59982846
read the op you fag, when they complained the blm harrassed and incarsarated them for some bullshit reason and after that stoped with the fence.
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>>59982285
I just feel like there is underlying causes and agendas. The militia is essentially just like /pol/ in the sense they wait for HAPPENINGS and then go places unwanted and stir up shit that probably would've went away without their intervention rather easily, because the feds push over anyone they can.

I think they're motivation no matter what the case is, is just to prove the people have power to say a big fuck you to the powers that be and have a fun time doing it. Just go into a gun store and listen to the conversations, a lot of these people would never harm a fly, but as soon as the government tries to disarm the public, these people are TRULY not fucking around. A lot of people are waiting on a happening, no matter what the case.
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>>59983044
but you agree we should change the law because this is unjust?
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>>59982192
The obvious implication I hoped to get across in my post, retard, was that the "socially conscious" left are trying to take flak from actual and alarmingly more common terrorists by redefining terrorism to mean peaceful armed protests or occupation of federal buildings, through the repeated use of terrorist to describe peaceful armed protest or occupation of federal building.
This is not a new tactic and is the same tactic they are using on violence by describing online harassment as having a violence committed against them and saying we need to crack down on cyber violence.
This was repeated to the UN and deliberated upon for some time.
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>>59983055

Did they trespass BLM land? Did they, in fact, prevent federal contractors from performing their duties?
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>>59981221

Philadelphia.

They were bombings, not hunting parties.

11 people were killed.

Did I fucking miss something here?
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WHO HAVE THEY TERRORIZED?

IF IT'S NO ONE, THEN THEY AREN'T TERRORISTS.
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>>59982842
>the feds will crush this rebellion. these militia men sealed their fate with their treason.
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>>59983200
>Did they trespass BLM land?
No as i said they stopped with the fence FOR THE PURPOSE OF BLOCKING WATER FLOWING THOUGH when they threatend to complain, because IT WAS FUCKING ILLEGAL
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nothing new is happening and comments are circlejerk.

> Stop making Threads.
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>>59983359

Was the fence blocking the water though? Did they not prevent a federal contractor from performing their duty?
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