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Are militia members in Oregon traitors or patriots?
>Discuss
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>>59974515
Patriots IMO.
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>>59974515
patriots.
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Faggots playing army
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>>59974515

Still reviewing the evidence of the case they're protesting...

Leaning towards their hearts being in the right place I guess, but it's still possible they're unjustified in this case...
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>>59974515
They're wasting their time.
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>>59974962

This. Wanting any reason to jump off and chimp out. Unfortunately this isnt the appropriate aituation.
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>>59974515
uneducated roleplaying redneck manchildren

>muhh call of duty
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>>59974515
Federal>State
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Why do they have an Assassins Creed III flag?
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>>59974925
>>59974962
>>59975036
>>59975262
>>59975307
I love how people willing to go outside and do something about their beliefs rustles the shit out of 4chan autistes.
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Occupy of the right. Niggs are just mad because they wont be fucked with beacuse it will end in a shootout.
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>>59975541
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>>59975551
This.

>LEL UR A CŲCK!
>Someone actually decides to stand up for himself
>WOW WHAT A REDNECK
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>>59974515
Next level larping
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>>59975419
>What is the 10th amendment

Fuck off
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>>59974515
They're patriots . Why does this shit keep coming up? They're not terrorists, not disloyal. They are US citizens that disagree with our government because our country allows us to act and speak negative of our own country.
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>>59975419
>thinking this is true.
>thinking the Civil War was about anything but avoiding this fallacy.

fuck the federal government.
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>>59974515
Criminals and traitors no better than the Confederacy. They should dance at the end of a rope and be left to rot in front of the capitol building.
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>>59975551
They are in the wrong. These fuckers committed arson and have been given the appropriate sentence.

These faggot militia guys are the right wing version of BLM, protesting over criminals getting punished rather than standing up for legitimate issues.
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>>59974515
They're morons who will not accomplish anything.
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>>59975907
And guess who lost the civil war
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>>59975899
The Constitution allows you to peaceably assemble and ask for a redress of grievances, not storm a public building with weapons designed to kill and occupy the people's property illegally. They're criminals and they should be disarmed and arrested. If they resist, kill them all without hesitation.
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>>59976037

rebelling against over reaching government is as american as it gets.
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>REEEEEEEEEEE why are you exercising you 2nd amendment rights
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>>59974515
retards defending a moron who set public land on fire to cover up his poaching
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>The second amendment only applies to militias
>w-w-wait why are you forming a militia that's not allowed
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>>59975899
what?
dubs
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>>59976037
Hes got that soon face
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>>59976219
Activism and political discourse is as American as it gets. Not being a buck-toothed idiot with a gun demanding you get your way like a spoiled child.
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>>59976092
You must not be very familiar with the case.
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>>59976303
The Brits said the same thing at Lexington and Concord you eternal faggot.
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>>59974515
They are confederates of the NWO. Funny how the day before obama pushes a new executive order for his shit gun control, these guys get the liberal media talking about all white people are crazy racist gun toting terrorists.

Never trust the shit media and their brainwashing.
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>>59976185
So what if they're fucking criminals ? That argument is already invalid. They are doing this for a purpose, they are fucking completely harmless. I could literally go up there today and hangout with them and they wouldn't try to kill me.
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>>59976129
it's very clear, it's why America is a shithole now
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>>59974515
They're only traitors if they plan to overthrow an elected government or try to give state secrets to other countries. They might be criminals for trespassing if they were told to vacate the area they occupy by its owners and they will wall be criminals if they start shooting at people. They might be patriots but if they really wanted to help they'd stage peaceful protests in more populated areas to bring attention to their cause and raise money to pay for a good lawyer for the guy being arrested.
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>>59976320
I am very familiar with it. You must get your information from shitty sources.
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>>59976293
They have a valid argument and are protesting against the government. Just because they have guns everyone is losing their shit.
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why are there so many shills in these threads holy fak
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It's been discussed in the game threads all fucking day for the love of Christ
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>>59974515
Anyone who fights the government is a patriot. It's as patriotic as fighting non-Americans in the military.
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>>59976443
Yeah, blacks
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>>59974515
The Fire Rises tbqh. If you don't stand up, then you stand for nothing.
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>>59976405
No, the Brits had ignored several peaceful and reasoned arguments and attempts by the colonial government to address their concerns that were ignored or responded to with increasingly harsher measures. Force was resorted to as a last resort, and with great reluctance. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. You have no notion of your country's history whatsoever but you'll parrot this moronic ideology. You should be disbarred from voting and gun ownership on the grounds you are too fucking stupid to do either.

>>59976422
That argument isn't invalid. They're armed criminals occupying something my taxes pay for, so they are stealing from me and trying to demand an exception to the laws we are all bound to just because they don't like it. Fuck them. Fuck their temper tantrum. I hope the FBI burns them out they roast like fucking ribs in a smoker.
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The NSF are terrorist, my government wouldn't lie to me.
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>>59974515
Patriots.
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WACO 2.0 WHEN
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They're just as insufferable as these faggots.

>muh land
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>>59976759
>No, the Brits had ignored several peaceful

Nothing about the protests were peaceful, even in the Boston massacre protesters were assaulting british soldier, and with the Boston Tea Party they were destroying property.
Stop whitewashing american history.
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A'mon Bundi and Y'all-Qaeda have declared Yeehawd!

They're terrorists. For real.
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>>59976759
>Fuck their temper tantrum.

>hurr durr fuck da bill o rights niggu
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>>59977075
>Jihad
>terrorists
>0 deaths

Just being white and owning a gun makes you a terrorist to leftists.
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>>59976873
>mfw
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>>59974515
Patraitors.
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>>59976240
Oh shit we've got a first had witness here. Do an ama pls big boy.
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>>59976092
>C U C K
>U
>C
>K
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>>59977145
White Nationalist groups are, by designation, terror groups. Doesn't matter if you agree with that designation or not.
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>>59976443
Yeah the south can't get its shit together after over one hundred years. Jesus Christ you guys are like the nation's ghetto minus Texas.
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>>59977245
Try harder kike. Go suck Glenn becks cock
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>>59976991
Defending and exonerated in court by John Adams, who maintained they'd done nothing wrong by opening fire on unruly illegal protesters.
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>>59974515
Patriots
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>>59977280
I'm sure in whatever fantasy land you live in that's true.
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>>59976037
Sherman was a traitor and a kike
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>>59977075
let me know when they start beheading people and setting live, caged men on fire.
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>>59977353
Yes, moron that's what I was saying. The American protesters were in the wrong. Every British tax was legal, the American Revolution was an unjustified armed insurrection. How are you this dense?
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>>59977467
I hope he walked over the corpse of your hillbilly ancestor while taking a piss on the Confederate flag and watching the Atlanta skyline ringed in flames.
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>>59975551
>>59975721
Question: these guys "go out and do something" for what they believe in but when black people protest thats chimping out?
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>>59974515

They're dumb asses. What exactly are their goals? Do they plan on raiding government facilities? They also fucked themselves by holding up. All the gubment needs to do it surround them and starve them out. This is an attention seeking stung that is going to get them put in prison for a long time.
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>>59977522
How are YOU this fucking dense? The point of this is that violent stupid actions like these are illegal and no self-respecting real revolutionary movement set on real change would acknowledge it.
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>>59977556
I haven't seen these people loot burn or riot yet
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>>59976303
you mean like the niggers on Ferguson crying about a violent psychopathic criminal animal getting out down for trying to chew an innocent police officers throat out?
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>>59977616
>no self-respecting real revolutionary movement set on real change would acknowledge it.

So the American Revolution wasn't self respecting? kek.
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>>59977556
>Occupying a federal facility
vs
>Burning and looting private properties
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>>59977678
Absolutely not. Considering one of the first things the post-Revolutionary government did was put down tax protesters as criminals and traitors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
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clear to fire
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>>59976037
UR a spoiled freak.
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>>59974515
Real American heros
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>>59974515
Patriots.

We have these rights for a reason. It kind of scares me to see the Americans on /pol/ not realize that we are losing the freedom that we have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN86d0CdgHQ
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>>59977851
Why bother? The leftist media will discredit them. The federal government just have to sit back and wait.
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>>59977834
>Absolutely not.

So they were self respecting then? I agree, they were also violent criminals just like the Whiskey Rebels.

The only thing the Whiskey Rebels did wrong was lose, otherwise they were completely justified. The only thing wrong any revolutionary can do is wrong. If they win they becomes heroes.
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>>59974515

they're white blm protestors.

Equally stupid and dangerous in large numbers.
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their white privilege will save them with a slap in the hand
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>>59977987
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>>59977987
Then until these 300 lb. albino apes with their daddy's rifles somehow 'win' they are just criminals and traitors. Now say it.
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They are the perfect example of protesting with the second amendment.

Stupid niggers are the perfect example of what happens when you don't.
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>>59974515
>People that have no understanding of the story are making snap judgments as to whether these guys are good or bad based on them being anti-government, pro-gun and white.
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>>59978092
You aren't a criminal or a traitor until you've actually been proven guilty of something in a court of law, dumbass.

I swear people like you don't even have 2 brain cells to rub together.
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Every man has the right to fight his own wars. They're patriots, even if they'll be put down as criminals and their actions are indeed criminal.
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pol is dead and totally infiltrated. its time to go hot.
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>>59978514
Yeah. What the fuck are we supposed to do when Americans laugh when someone is exercising the same rights everyone else has? We have them for a reason, yes?
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>>59974515

Patriots. Fuck the government, it's about time we stood up to them and told them to fuck off.

Bootlickers need not apply. Hopefully y'all will be hanged for the traitors you are.
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>>59978374
Yeah so if a dindu put a gun to your head you're going to yell at the police 'stop! He hasn't been proven guilty yet!'

Wow, you're a fucking idiot.
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>>59977280
Is that what the government told you?
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>>59974515
Patriots.
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>>59974515

As long as they're not fucking with the animals they sound OK in my book. Granted I only now am following this situation.
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>>59974515

Try and get my message to the guys in Oregon.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/xrIgvYOf7UU
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>>59978795
>all suspects are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law
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>>59977261
>ISIS colony of Belgium calling anyone a cuck
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>>59977538
Where does this anger come from? Did a southerner steal your girlfriend? Did one perhaps raise their voice at you, or even disagree with you at some point?
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>>59979045
top fucking zozzle where is your tin foil hat?
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Patriots
I agree with them 100%, fuck the federals
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>>59974515
patriots but some of them are cringe worthy.
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>>59974515

Pic is the "government facility" they "stormed .
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>>59979524
Can you find a smaller picture?
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>>59979303
I'm a dental hygienist and I went with roaming free clinic to work on some southerners in rural Tennessee. They were the most entitled, ugly, stupid fucking people with the worst teeth I'd ever seen and I've hated the South ever since.
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>>59979524

>Pic is the "government facility" they "stormed .

the only ones who have used the term stormed were liberu media and faggots on 4chan. There was literally no one there because it was closed for the weekend.
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Hmmm, starting to read up on the case. It seems the feds actually tried to send this family to prison for 5 years because they accidentally burned one acre of land on a federal reserve. That is bullshit.

These guys are patriots then.
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>>59979752
they already did a year of jail time and were free for over a year. they government wants them to GO BACK to prison.
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>>59979692
Oh course a dentist would be full of angst.
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>>59979752
>'accidentally'
I wonder if they alerted the local fire dept. / wildlife service before starting their fire? Oh wait, of course they didn't because they think they can do whatever they want wherever and whenever they want. So then Cletus realizes he can't control the flames and we lose good federal land that they don't own ruined because of their stupidity.

Lock them up and throw away the key.
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>>59979896
>I wonder if they alerted the local fire dept. / wildlife service before starting their fire? Oh wait, of course they didn't

except they did
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>>59979896
>5 years for 1 acre

people like you are the same ones that want to give Tyrone 2 months every time he murders and rapes a white woman.
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>>59979896
>burning land ruins it
For about 6 months, until the next generation of plants start to grow. The only real problem with forest fires is the fact that houses are in the way.
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>>59979524
I know right? Call me when they occupy an important building.
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>>59977567
>he thinks that there's only 150 militia members
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>>59980020
Source that claim
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>>59974515
Is that an Assassin's Creed 3 flag?
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>>59980252
literally every new report that details the timeline says that they informed the fire department and blm every time they did a burn.
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>>59976589
>mfw a Muslim nation is the 9th friendliest place in the world
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>>59980291
is a 3% flag. it represents the 3% of colonists who actually fought and won the revolutionary war.
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>>59979856

The year in jail from what I gather is from an earlier fire that burned over 1300 acres and it does seem that one was negligently set. The five year sentence is from a back burn they did. Still trying to get the details but it seems they were being charged under the terrorist act for damaging gubment property with fire. That law was passed to stop blatant arson of federal installations. I doubt it was meant for accidental fires that get off private property. Still reading the case logs though.
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>>59974515
I suppose it all really depends on if they win or not.
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>>59980232
It doesn't matter if there are 150, 3,000, or 30,000.

They're going to get blown the fuck out.
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>>59979524
It's a bit more than just the welcome building.
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>>59974515
> incompetent ranchers burning brush on their land have it spread to federal property
> ~140 acres impacted
> gub'mint charges them for terrorism and gives them 5 years in the federal pen
> other farmers gets jimmies rustled

when the feds start treating moderate accidental property damage as terrorism, does it really surprise people that other citizens react really negatively.

PROTIP: next time you accidentally burn some shit, pay some random black dude to say he was venting his feelings about Trayvon or whatever. Everybody walks away happy.
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>>59980482

Just like at Bundy Ranch?

Good luck.
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>>59976972
>Non-landowner detected

I hate that faggots like you get to vote on property taxes when you faggots own no land at all.
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>>59977280
you are, by designation a gigantic faggot.
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>>59976129
>And guess who lost the civil war

Everyone but niggers?
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>>59978092
if 4'11" 70 lb rice farmers with second hand Soviet and Japanese guns can start a war that would defeat the US government, I'm sure militia tryhards with the latest in tacticool equipment (night vision, AR-15s, $500 red dot sights, the same pistols as the military, AWD trucks) could do the same
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>>59975846
>what is the supremacy clause.

Fuck off
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>>59980673
You know if they actually wanted them gone they would use 3 men in fucking storage units miles away flying drones lol...
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Why did they take over a nation park?
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>>59980424
>The year in jail from what I gather is from an earlier fire

no they are being sent back to jail for the same "Terrorism" conviction. they are being forced to go back and serve out the minimum sentence even tho the judge ruled it unconstitutional (cruel and unusual) and gave them lesser sentence. sending them back to jail for the same crime is illegal.

>that burned over 1300 acres and it does seem that one was negligently set

the fires that they set burned onto the land they had grazing rights for and it was only like 100 acres

the other fire they set was a firebreak for a natural forest fire caused by a lightning storm.
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>>59976759

This Anon has it right. This "Hurr Durr, revolution is an American tradition" shit is so fucking dumb. FFS, in the Declaration of Independence it say's "Should not be done for light or transient reasons".

The Entire reason the US Colonies revolted was because they were not only being abused by the system, they were SHUT OUT of the System, and denied vote in Parliament.

This is NOT the case for these idiots in Oregon. They are fully enfranchised citizens, with every right to affect the democratic system of the nation. They are resorting to force of Arms because their opinion is a minority one rejected by the Majority of the electorate.

They are not freedom fighters, they are wannabe tyrants attempted to compel by force the American People to adhere to their desires. There can only be on recourse for such scum.
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>>59980809
Federal property and not affecting private business
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>>59974515
Is that the Ghost mask from cod?
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>>59980722
They could if there were about, like, two million more of them.

Find another two million rednecks with your le Call of Duty equipment that are willing to uprise and then maybe that'll be possible.
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>>59974515
Neither. Just criminal assholes. Honestly, probably false flag operatives anyway. I still hate ranchers though and hope some get killed out of this and cleansed from the land.
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>>59980612
>PROTIP: next time you accidentally burn some shit, pay some random black dude to say he was venting his feelings about Trayvon or whatever. Everybody walks away happy.

God this is so true and makes me angry.

You have some fucking criminal black assaulting people or trying to take their gun and you get the president on TV saying he dindunuffin and that it looks bad they got shot.

You get something like this and the libshit media wants you to believe it's justified.

Same liberal shits that spent years now trying to convince you criminal blacks getting killed in the process of doing crime is anudda shoah and that you need to change laws and society to stop it.

They won't stand up and say this terrorism charge is bullshit.

Because this is just too good of an opportunity for them to hate white people some more.

Fuck everything.
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>>59977637
you haven't seen any black lives matter protest with looting or riot, or carrying around guns to put everyone in fear.
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>>59979524
I'm surprised they got past the squirrel defenses. I would of thought the nut throwing would have done them in for sure.
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>>59980836
You know he was a rapist piece of shit tyrant right...
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>>59980836
found the kike
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>>59980870
yeah and the Monster logo in their flag
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>>59977637
>I haven't seen these people loot burn or riot yet
Literally what? The two ranchers were imprisoned for literally arson, Bundy's kids are occupying federal property with armed force. What are you even talking about?
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>>59980808

And start the 2nd civil war?
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>>59979896
Not for terrorism though, and they already did.
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>>59980901
There have been 3 million new AR-15s sold in the past 15 years on the civilian market

go figure
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>>59974515
Why would be wrong if they were traitors? your entire country foundation is defined by treason anyway.
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>>59981069
I dont even get what they are fighting for but I doubt many people give a fuck about 15 fatasses occupying a building lol.
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"Some of you may see a story in the news soon about a takeover of a federal building in Oregon. Before the media turns this into another Waco, you should know the truth. First off there is no standoff nor are roads closed or blocked. The situation is being monitored but the fact is some patriot protestors went into an unlocked building for warmth. The following is intel from the site.

Harney county, Oregon update: I just got off the phone with Blaine who is AT the wildlife refuge. To dispel any rumors, this is a vetted update. There is NO hostile takeover. The land and building is public, and there are NO, do not trespass signs, or hours of operation posted. The doors were NOT locked. There is NO armed standoff at this time. They are simply occupying a building owned by We The People. Many of the town folk work for BLM, hence the problem. Most town folk are also very supportive of the Hammonds. This is a peaceful protest, and is following a redress of grievances with thousands of signatures. For all other vetted info, see the Bundy Ranch Facebook page. Ammond is on scene in Oregon. Again, I just got off the phone. This info is vetted, and they are looking for more peaceful, cool heads, and rationaly minded patriots to join them in support of the Hammonds, and America."
Discuss.
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>>59974515

I see the Juggalos are out in force too.
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>>59980912
Looting yes, rioting yes.
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>>59980398
m8, according to the WEF the world's third most welcoming nation to outsiders is a Muslim nation, Morooc.
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>>59980948

Found the Autist. Is it really so hard to believe that there are people who will take up arms against the militias if "the fire rises"?

This idiot argument is the same one the Confederates used to sell the bullshit of a peaceful secession to their people. "No way in hell will the people rise in defense of the Feds".

Well Shermans march to sea proved rather conclusively that idea was bogus. BTW, its still bogus.
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>>59976487
I hate to say it but this is the answer until the government is literally coming to get the guns.
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>>59981052
It's was a fire used to contain a preexisting forest fire. Literally been done for thousands of years. Anyone who has ever even been around a ranch knows this.
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>>59974515

Is one a traitor after the government in their homeland has struck the first blow against them?
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>>59976037
>William "40 acres and a mule" Sherman
>/pol/
I found the nigger-lover
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>>59977851
>here we go again
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>>59974585
>>59974851
Unless they are elected by the people in a democratic election, they are no better than thugs. Once elected, you're good to go.
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>>59981263
>Morocco
>morooc
>Moloch

That explains the pentagram :DDD
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>>59974515
Yeah Im sorry but these guys stand no chance if the military really cared. They are edgy libertarians trying to spark a revolution and are going to get the beat down.
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>>59980938

>You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will.

Sherman gave the rebels exactly what they deserved.
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>>59974515
>Are militia members in Oregon traitors or patriots?

They're shabbos goy libertarians. Anyone who is unironically libertarian is a degenerate.

These idiots are protesting the fact that the government doesn't just let people start hundred acre burns at will on public land.
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>>59974515
faggots
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>>59980788
>What is Santa Clause

Fuck off
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>>59980482
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>>59981452
Calm down cuck. The north is burning now due to the choices yall made and now you flee down south lol. Kinda funny aint it. Degenerates
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>>59981491
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>>59981138

>Hey US airforce member, please kill these 15 people who are guilty of being in a vacant federal building

Ok buddy. Don't you have school tomorrow? Should get to bed.
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Jihad when?
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>>59981148
So would anyone who isn't part of the militia be allowed to go in there for warmth too? I assume the wildlife refuge can't take in any guests at the time.
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>>59976092
They attempted to burn non-native species and protect their ranches, but never meant to let it get out of control. They should've been fined, but not prison time.
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>>59981299
nah nothing wrong with armed protests

it shows the left that their feels don't triumph our rights and that they better keep their feels in control or they'll be shot dead
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>>59981546
If they gotta go they gotta go. The fact they are sitting their jerking each other off shows how much they will accomplish lol. Libertarians are the worst cancer
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>still thinking these guys are doing this because of Hammond

The Hammond family don't want anything to do with them. The people of Burns don't want anything to do with them. The local sheriff says the militia are just there to cause some mischief.

The truth is these guys are a bunch of low IQ bumblecucks who take their facebook videos too seriously and got manipulated by a family of neoniggers who want free land. They got their way once before and think they'll be able to do it again.
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>>59981138
Dude if Obama authorized a drone strike on americans on american soil he would start a civil war.
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>>59981452
>>59981524
Jews Caused The Civil War
https://therebel.is/en/news/kaminski/850801-jews-caused-the-civil-war
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>>59981658
Would it tho?

9/11 happened and you did nothing then
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>>59977084
Either mcnig has long ass boon fingers or he needs to trim his fingernails.
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>>59981524

Actually, I'm a Virginian. We can't avoid the Civil War down here. We got caught in the cross fire the first time and paid the highest price for it for our trouble. If a bunch of idiots want to start a second one, they better have a damn good reason to do it.

"Hurr, I don't want to pay the feds $1.50 a cow for grazing rights" does not qualify IMO. A bunch of pretentious idiots with cowboy syndrome knowing nothing about the consequences of what they are advocating.
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>>59981675
Oh god liberal tards caused it and they wanted to manipulate the souths economy and the south told em to get fucked.

>>59981658
15 guys in a room
he would literally have to send in SWAT and could catch em all easily. No one gives a fuck about this literally but libertarians who live in the burbs and know nothing about real combat. Lmao at people who are untrained out of shape fucks thinking they have a snowballs chance in hell. inb4 muh revolution. THE AMERICANS WERE FIGHTING PEOPLE WHO STOOD IN A FUCKING LINE AND SHOT NO SHIT THEY WON.
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>>59981138
>I dont even get what they are fighting for
Obviously.

>I doubt many people give a fuck about 15 fatasses occupying a building lol.
You seem to...
And they would surely care if the government deployed hellfire missiles against its own citizens. Also, it's 150.
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>>59976487
I disagree, I think an armed protest in a federal building away from populated areas is very sensible, you get the government's attention and you minimise collateral so the only one's getting hurt in the event of an escalation are the protesters and the police,sheriffs and NG, it also takes away weight from the terrorist label when the only thing they are occupying is a closed lodge in the middle of no where, with no strategic importance, also the fact that the location has a something to do with the case against the Hammonds may even draw attention to some of the sketchier court proceedings that caused the whole mess.
I don't think enough evidence has come up for a ruling in ,or against, them but if I was them that's the perfect place politically and tactically, especially with the water and animal sources offering a sustainable living.
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>>59981829
Is it over burning or paying to use land??? i dont fucking get it.
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>>59981610
as long as you are being peaceful yea I got no problem with it.
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>>59976759
>You should be disbarred from voting and gun ownership on the grounds you are too fucking stupid to do either.

Screenshotted for American hypocrisy
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>>59981887
You really think you could stand up to a drone or an abrams. Buddy you may wanna join the armed forces... What is this all about though starting fires or money for cows.
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>>59974515
OK, this happenings is now on finnish mainmedia too:
http://yle.fi/uutiset/yhdysvalloissa_on_menossa_rakennusvaltaus_oregonin_osavaltiossa/8568794

4.1.2016 klo 1:46
(news posted about 2 hours ago)

HABBENINGS!
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>>59981951

The Bundy's are protesting the land use. They have coopted the Hammand families case against their wishes. The Hammonds were convicted of Arson (not Terrorism as some have claimed).

They initially got a light sentence because of the circumstances. However, due to mandatory minimum sentences passed in the 90's by Newt Gingriches congress, they have to serve 5 years in prison regardless of whether or not it was accidental. Hence the reversal of the original sentencing order.

Which is why the bashing of Liberals for this is so hilarious. Liberals have been wanting to repeal mandatory minimum sentences for a decade now and its been Conservatives blocking it at every turn. Not so funny when its white people rather then niggers on the receiving end of a mandatory minimum.
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>>59981752
because the nation still believes 9/11 was carried out by al-qaeda saudi's who couldn't fly.

>>59981857
>Lmao at people who are untrained out of shape fucks thinking they have a snowballs chance in hell. inb4 muh revolution

Your newness is showing. If you really believe that you are a complete and utter faggot.
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Why are there no pictures of the Militia?
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>>59981475
>These idiots are protesting the fact that the government doesn't just let people start hundred acre burns at will on public land.

No they aren't. They are protesting the fact that after they were convicted, sentence, served their time, and were released, the gov basically said "lol nvm actually we decided it was terrorism come back to jail for 5 more years pls" without any kind of hearing or re-trial.

Even if these guys are guilty of every arson crime or negilence/whatever they are accused of (which they might be), it's an absolutely despicable and evil jewish abuse of power to attempt to punish them again post-facto.
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>>59974515
It sounds like they're doing this against the wishes of the Hammonds. Not really sure what's going on, so I'll reserve judgement.
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>>59982290
You are comparing the british soldiers who shot single shot muskets in a straight line.

To

Heavy equipment, unmanned weapons, automatic weapons, planes, tanks, heavy armor, body armor, tactics, snipers, survellance, electronic manipulation, chemical capabilities, etc.

I can tell someones a civvy
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>>59982356
here you go
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>>59982525
see
>>59981491
>>59981527
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>>59982290

This pic is not very accurate. It implies the "loyalists" were somehow a superior sect that "ruled" over their "patriot" neighbors.

In actuality the Loyalists were Americans who took up arms against the rebellion. History is written by the victors, but the important fact should still be kept in mind that even for a cause like the American Revolution, a large portion of the resident population took up arms in defense of the ruling government.

No effort to bring about revolution by force of arms goes unopposed. Ever. The moment you resort to the gun to bring about political change, you force your neighbors to pick sides. And not all of them will side with you.
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>patriots
ha. theyre fucking terrorists
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>>59982586
Random conspiracy comments yeahhhh ok. Im gonna go with the US military and federal systems and support them. Potato fucker
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>>59982623

Cont.

And it should be added, not even members of your own family will side with you. There is a reason why the American Civil War was called a war between brothers. Because in every battle members of the same families were often of opposing sides and trying to kill each other.

Look at your brother. Your son. Your daughter. Is your cause just enough that you would be willing to kill them even as you are willing to accept the possibility they will try and kill you. If it is, then you are ready for a civil war. If it is not, you are a pretentious faggot shitposting on the internet.
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Occupy done right perhaps?
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>>59982722
fuck off bootlicker. I bet you're a Bernie voter
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>>59974515
I think anyone that stands up to injustice is a hero.
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>>59974515

The government are traitors, the militia is the people.
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>>59982722
>opinion = conspiracy
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>>59982638

Except the white militia people in my state are all EMS, LEO and military, they love America as well.

Nice try roody poo
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>>59982926

Not MY people.
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>>59982722
>FEEL
>THE
>BERN
>VOTER
>INBOUND
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>>59982974
That's because your people are in Tel-Aviv
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>>59982722

Your oath is to the Constitution, not the Federal government. I would think a member of the military would know what oaths he took :^)
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>>59982415
This is pure bullshit and lies. They're shilling for rancher interests, whether they're legal or not. Ranchers should be shot. End of story.

>>59982969
Loving America is treason to the White Race, humanity and the planet.

>>59982974
This. Kill the rancher cunts. String up their corpses for the vultures to pick clean.
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>>59981138
I am a peaceful gunless law abiding citizen and if we bombed our own countrymen on home soil, I would burn down the white house.
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>>59983098
>Says the faggot who is 100% guaranteed to belong to a jewish religion and support a jewish economic system.
You realize jews love America, right? I wonder why that is.
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>>59982525

What branch you lying fucking FAGGOT?
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I don't get why these people are against public land. The best thing about the West is access to millions of acres of wilderness areas. Why the fuck would they want to turn all of that into private property?
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>>59983098

Actually, I am 50% Scot, 50% English, my last name starts with Mc, my mother was born in London and my fathers family came to North America in the 1600's. I also own a gun.

Now, the gun I own is for shooting Deer in my beloved blue ridge mountains. But I can also use it to shoot pretentious twats who want to overthrow my elected government if push came to shove.
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>>59974515

>WE WUZ REBELS N SHIT
>OBAMA AINT MY PRESIDENT HE IS A MUSLIM AND PROBABLY COMMUNIST XDDDD
>1776 not 2015 OKAY
>DAMM LIBRUELS :))))))))))))))))))))

Summary of this thread for anyone interested
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>>59983378

Because they want to own it.
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>>59983201
edgy
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>>59983378

Cuz they wuz cowboys and shit
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>>59983378
I see you clearly don't have a land owners mentality, the Feds are trying to gain more ground and take more private property away from US citizens. It has been done before.

http://offgridsurvival.com/usgovernmentseizingland/
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>>59983516
Like we care what sandniggers think
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>>59983772

And what pray tell, does the evil government plan to do with said land?
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>>59983201
faggots like you are why civil wars happen

the same theme happens throughout history
>a govt breaks its own laws to commit injustice or does evil to citizens
>citizens tell them to F off
>cuck comes in demanding goyim blood be spilled so he can get back to prepping bull
>now the people that are standing up for what is right have to either cave and let evil win, or fight their own countrymen
>nobody wins, everybody loses, many people die
>because you couldn't be bothered to spend 15 minutes looking into their greivences before slurping government cock

You aren't an American if you would have sided with the britcucks
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>>59983516
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>>59983866

Ebic response m8. Im sorry to have offended you and your Army LARPing community
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>>59979896

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_20272546/colorado-wildfire-elite-search-and-rescue-team-looking-woman-missing


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerro_Grande_Fire


http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/10/local/me-yosemite-fire10


http://wildfiretoday.com/2010/05/19/one-fire-in-northern-michigan-caused-by-escaped-controlled-burn-on-military-base/


http://www.outsideonline.com/1988971/playing-fire-feud-grows


http://www.denverpost.com/ci_22870272/lower-north-fork-residents-claim-pattern-negligence-prescribed

Firefighters and Forest Services personnel don't have the greatest track record either.
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>controlled burn to remove invasive species and prevent wildfires on property that's belonged to you for over 100 year
>arson
>terrorism
?????
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>>59974515
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JUST FUCKING NUKE EAST OREGON ALREADY
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>>59976092
Do you enjoy regurgitating MSM propaganda?
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>>59983917

Their grievances are shit. They want the right to exploit the natural resources of the west without oversight or restraint. I listened to their manifesto on the livestream and it basically boiled down to the Feds won't let us overgraze, strip mine and clear cut log.

The reason we even have these sustainable wilderness areas that are still economically viable is because the Feds have kept them in Common trust. These idiots owe their entire way of life to the Federal Government for preventing the high desert grassland from being exterminated over the 20th century.
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>>59974515
They're idiots, but their actions will spark the need for revolution against oligarchy tyranny.
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>>59983901
Most likely, nothing of any real value, the fact it was yours and they took it from you is what is wrong here. I thought it was pretty obvious.
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>>59981299
>
le bongo wants to do that this week.
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if you honestly believe that the militias will win you are retarded
that being said this looks like it's gonna be a fun watch
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>>59984065

terrorism charges are a myth. The defense said they were being treated like terrorists. They were convicted of Arson. They are only going to prison because of mandatory minimum sentences demanded by the REPUBLICAN PARTY. Not the liberals.
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>>59983917
No, letting subhumans breed is why civil wars happen. Bloodlines like the Bundys should have been weeded out CENTURIES ago, false flag agents or not.
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>>59981584
god bless McNiggerator.
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>>59982969
Thats great, but the second they partake in an illegal armed occupation of a government building then they are terrorists.
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>>59974515
I want that balaclava that the guy on the right has.
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>>59984266

9th's Decision for anyone interested.

http://www.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/United_States_v_Hammond_742_F3d_880_9th_Cir_2014_Court_Opinion?1451856065
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>>59984513
>http://www.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/United_States_v_Hammond_742_F3d_880_9th_Cir_2014_Court_Opinion?1451856065

TY
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>>59984150
Unless everyone gets off their high horse about GMOs, allow advancement to produce more food on the same amount of land we have now, you will see more and more Federal land reused in the coming future. Unless a plague or world war solves the over population problem.
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>>59979862
Not even a dentist,but a dental hygienist. In other words, he got his degree at Devry University, Class of Tuesday 3:30pm
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>>59984203

It has never belonged to them. The Federal Government has overtime parceled out millions of acres of federally owned land to private interests over the last 200 years. But it keeps other areas in public trust for various reasons, such as ecosystem sustainability, common use (like open range grazing) and so on.

The only really egregious abuses of the federal lands has not been in the west, its been in the east. Like the creation of the Shenandoah National Park. You want to see real government abuse, look up the shit that went into making that one. Western folk don't know how good they got it.

That said though, nobody around here denies that the creation of Shenandoah was in the end, good for the area. It saved the Black Bear and White Tailed Deer, where before both were on the verge of extinction in Virginia prior to the creation of the park.

Private interests are all well and good, and there needs to be a balance. But what the Bundy's are advocating has no long term basis. They are demanding lands that were never theirs to begin with be handed over to private interests from the public trust, and this is unacceptable. ESPECIALLY when they make these demands at the point of the gun.

I will be more then willing to entertain their ideas so long as I do not feel I am being forced by threat of death and insurrection to listen to them.

Right now all I hear is the whining of a bunch of reactionary rebels demanding I appreciate their point of view "or else".

To that I can only say "or else what?"
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>>59984438
>illegal armed occupation

Well, it seems that the building they occupied is open 24/7, just not staffed for that period. It isn't illegal to be in the building and it isn't illegal to have guns on the property. So in reality they have not broke any laws yet.
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>>59976270
UNDERATED
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>>59974515
Why is that guy wearing a Call of Duty Ghosts mask?
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>>59984740
Sure they have, the government can deny access to any Federal land at will. It's why the average citizen isn't allowed to walk into Area-51 or the White House.
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when the government breaks the law, uprising can be justified. otherwise, judging by the incident, you are asking citizens to leave a communist dictatorship alone so that the citizens won't be branded as traitors.
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>>59980912
>What is Ferguson Riots
>What is St. Louis Riots
>What is Baltimore Riots
I could name more your post is prolly b8
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>>59984847

>Why is that guy wearing a Call of Duty Ghosts mask?

They played COD and now want to go LARPing in the woods so they can pretend to be soldiers.
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>>59982027
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>>59984985
Makes sense.
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Patriots of course.

The traitors are in Washington, DC.
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>>59984901

Did you miss the open 24/7 part. The area the militia moved into was open to the public so they are not really trespassing. Now if they try to bar the employees from working tomorrow then I can see hell to pay, but I think they are just going to get a huge GTFO and this will die down shortly.
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they're like black lies matter niggers only a little less annoying

not traitors,just retards
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>>59985134
It's stupid though, they're not going to get anything done. The two people who got convicted of crimes are still going to jail, they've agreed to.

If they really had balls, they would occupy a more important target, to make people actually care about their issue.

The funny thing is, they're wasting their own tax dollars by occupying that refuge. They're paying for the FBI to babysit them.
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>>59984678
Maybe this link can help you try to see their point of view.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/
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>>59985237
They can deny access to Federal property at will.
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>>59984740
Sanctuary has been closed since yesterday afternoon. So no, that is not currently the case.
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>>59981060
>>59976891


http://carolmoore.net/waco/waco-victims.html
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Breaking News: Obama Orders Hammond Ranch Destroyed

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2016/01/breaking-news-obama-orders-hammond-ranch-destroyed-2767990.html
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>>59985629


^___^
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>>59985629
That's one of the worst news sites I've ever used. The font, the colour scheme, it's all awful.
>>59981060
Highly unlikely. If the FBI just let them be and left the premises, and the news stopped covering them, nobody would care. Nobody would even know about it.
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>>59976219
> tracing the Doom 3 fat zombie
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Is there a place where I can see how long the land has been part of the nature preserve?
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>>59985749
>That's one of the worst news sites I've ever used.
You type like a faggot. Are you a trudeau voter by any chance?
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>>59984615
GMOs don't produce more food. Get lost, shill faggot. Nothing will ever get better until we burn every single corporation to the ground and kill their leaders.
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>>59974515
pretty obivous they are traitors, probably Bernie supporters judging from how much they hate america and dont stand up for freedom.
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>>59985502
Their point of view is clear. It's the point of view of all ranchers. They want to steal public land for private profit. They should all have bullets firmly embedded in their skulls.
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>>59983516
You're countries government allows it's citizens to be raped by backwards foreigners. It's a against the law to fight back in anyway. Just wanted to remind you.
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>>59986133

America is only 67% ''''''''''''''white''''''''''''''''''. Just wanted to remind you
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Let's let democracy decide

http://strawpoll.me/6445237
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>>59976092
4/10, ok bate
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>>59986216

back to >>>/int/ with you mohammad
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>>59976759
>Fuck their temper tantrum. I hope the FBI burns them out they roast like fucking ribs in a smoker.
you know that if they do that it will kick off cw2?
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>>59974515
>CoD Ghosts mask

So patriotic its cringy
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>>59977916
love this song
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i wish you GLP retards would leave
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>>59985876
>>59986030
Yes Comrade! How dare they not let the Federal Government not walk over them!

Did you not see the underhanded tactics used by Fish and Wildlife Services and Bureau of Land Management to force people to sellout to them, literally stealing form the citizens. I have never been a fan of FWS and never will, I have more deer and turkey on my farmland then they do in their huge private playgrounds.

Also, read up on the Green Revolution faggot
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>>59986216
Doesn't bother me I'm Mexican. At least the whites here can defend themselves unlike in your shithole of a country. Does it bother you that England will cease to be with in the next 50 years? All that history and culture gone. It honestly makes me kind of sad. If I was in your shoes I'd bomb the fucking queen. Yet you sit in front of your computer and shit post.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_incident
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>>59986754
>If I was in your shoes I'd bomb the fucking queen. Yet you sit in front of your computer and shit post.
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>>59980407
No, it's an AC3 flag.
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>>59986473
Good, I'll fight for the government to kill hicks. Sounds like fun. They've poisoned this country enough with their useful idiocy to the rich.
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>>59986731
>Yes Comrade! How dare they not let the Federal Government not walk over them!
What part of "it's not their fucking land" do you fail to comprehend?
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>>59986839
At least try to do something to make your country better.
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>>59974515
True patriots obviously. They got the balls to actually do something in the outside world.
Let's just hope that they escalates this shit if Hillary wins the election.
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>>59987061

i did. i chose Corbyn as Labour leader
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>>59986933

>their useful idiocy to the rich.

So how is the campaign for Hillary and Bernie going?

Hypocrite.
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>>59978737

Realize you're in the fucking minority, and that your dumbass autist opinions on how things 'work' is as real as your girlfriend.
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>>59979045
Lambright, Bidding for all talk no walk 2016
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>>59987175
I don't like the government either. This is simply the only war I would be even remotely willing to fight with them. I fucking hate capitalcucks far more than the government which is owned by them.
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Patriots to the dead idea of the United States.
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>>59986975
Pretty sure the Hammonds still own their ranch last I checked
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>>59981647
congrats, you made my filter, I will never read another of your posts again, narcissitic faggto

>>59981655
3/10

>>59981820
filtered

>>59982268
2/10
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>>59974515
They are misguided retards.
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>>59987162
I can't wait to see what becomes of your land.
The middle east will burn
western Europe will burn
and south America will stay south america.
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>>59986933
psycopath detected
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>>59987554
Agreed there m8, psycopath indeed
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>>59986933
>Good, I'll fight for the government to kill hicks.
and get rekt?
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>>59982268
>>59981829
>>59981452
>>59981296
>>59980836
Thank you for posting some god damn sense my fellow Virginian.
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>>59974515
http://laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Fascism/America/James%20Mason%20-%20Siege.pdf

http://laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Fascism/America/James%20Mason%20-%20Siege.pdf

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http://laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Fascism/America/James%20Mason%20-%20Siege.pdf
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>>59981857
A trained United States military couldn't even fight against a bunch of out of touch high school drop outs from the Middle East. How do you think they will fair any differently when they fight the same type of enemy in Oregon?
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>>59987863
>>59987962
SEEN anon, ty
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>>59987875
Also, I can't imagine most of the US Military being 100% OK with fighting at killing fellow US citizens, the amount of "Calling for drone strikes" and anti-White comments around the internet over this story is a bit scary to me.
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>>59988155
*and
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>>59982525

It's actually the same concept. The British were a strategically and technology superior adversary in any way to the rebels until the evolution of the musket later in the war.

>Heavy equipment, unmanned weapons, automatic weapons, planes, tanks, heavy armor, body armor, tactics, snipers, survellance, electronic manipulation

Whole lot of good that did against the guerrilla wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq. How many of your buddies died soaking in their own blood, because some genius found out how to blow up a tank using a soda bottle and some alca seltzer?
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>>59988212
This

Guerrilla War and Conventional War are not the same, our Military are trained to fight in a sense that we are fighting a Conventional War, not a Guerrilla War. The US Militarys record at combating guerrilla tactics is shaky at best.
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>>59988155
And yet just a year ago they were training for that exact same thing all over the country.

They have trained time and time again to do this sort of thing for the stability of the government. They don't even view civilians in the same equilibrium as they view themselves.
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>>59976759
You dumb asshole try speaking out of your mouth and not your ass.
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>>59976240
No, there defending him and his son because they had already served there time, but then the judge decided that they hadn't served enough time and sent them back to prison again.
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100% real Americans.

Get fucked nogunz, Federal faggots
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>>59976185
They caused no property damage and they "stormed" the property when NO ONE was there.
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>>59988620
True, but I have a few friends in the service that do not like the idea of going to war with their fellow countrymen just cause the government ordered them to do it. That doesn't necessarily go for every service men out there I know, but I am not sure how most soldiers would react to the situation if the citizens where in the right and the government was in the wrong.
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>>59974515
So i skimmed through the whole thread...what did these guys do exactly? I saw a post about it on facebook and thought id come here to see what happened

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>>59981950
This guy gets it
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>>59989103
And I also understand that a soldier is not paid to think, he is paid to do what is ordered of him.
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