Daily reminder that we badly need some old style communism in order to fix the total retardation of the west liberalism and the NWO corporatocracy.
>hey I think we need that thing you hate to fix that other thing you hate
>you agree right? Lelelelelrlrlelelelellele
Meaningless shitpost. Least you fags aren't being so formulaic now.
>Communism is Jewish
It was initially, but the based comrade Koba fixed that for us.
>all those guys ran totalitarian regimes that had little to do with internationalism
and this was the best part of it. our socialism was entirely nationalistic and has nothing to do with the current west liberalism.
Totally agree man. I don't get it at all. These folks are butt hurt because someone invested in their economy and infrastructure, yeah maybe poorly, but invested.
>B-b-b-but muh mercedes, muh mcdonald's, muh bananas, muh consumerism crap ....
Entirely no realizing that they would had these things, but will be top tier cUck nations of faggots, SJW niggers and NWO slaves to this day without USSR.
>communism is Jewish
Jews are so butthurt, they claim their magic sky wizard powers killed Stalin.
>Save the day
>By murdering over 100 million people in one century
And anyone who supports communism has the blood of millions of innocents on their hands.
All commies should be shot.
And capitalism is not?
Communism destroys culture though, via feminism, atheism and egalitarian modernist faggotry in general. The idea is that all social structures (no matter how organic) need to be destroyed in favour of some bland and artificial identity based on a global proletariat.
Communism is faggotry. Liberal capitalism is faggotry.
LoL, communism is fiscall theory not social politic. Indentity politics are garbage and Soviet Union send fags to gulags, Stalin reopened churches and by the time of Gorbachev people were frerly alloweed to practice their faiths.
No, Islam will save the day, inshallah.
Both are Jewish. That still leaves us with anarchism, distributism, social democracy, monarchism etc
>"Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or less intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews are everywhere, commercial and banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in short, literary brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with one foot in the bank and the other in the socialist movement, and their arses sitting upon the German press. They have grabbed hold of all newspapers, and you can imagine what a nauseating literature is the outcome of it.
>Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting sect, a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, Marx feels an instinctive inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds. This may seem strange. What could there be in common between communism and high finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a strong state centralization, and where this exists there must inevitably exist a state central bank, and where this exists, there the parasitic Jewish nation, which speculates upon the labor of the people, will always find the means for its existence.
>In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack regime, under which the workingmen and the working closely and intimately connected with one another, regarless not only of frontiers but of political differences as well - this Jewish world is today largely at the disposal of Marx or Rothschild. I am sure that, on the one hand, the Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and that on the other hand, women, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work and live at the beat of the drum; the privilege of ruling would be in the hands of the skilled and the learned, with a wide scope left for profitable crooked deals carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted by the enormous extension of the international speculations of the national banks."
>Communism destroys culture though, via feminism, atheism
Our communism/socialism has nothing to do with your perception about it lad.
Our countries (entire eastern block) are nationalistic only because of the communism. Nationalism was taught from kindergarten till death.
Also our atheism is completely different. We're not obsessed with the idea that "there is no god" and everyone else is wrong and must be prohibited to reproduce because of bad genes and such retarded shit. Our atheism is tolerant.
This compagno is right. Hitler wasn't a fascist. But he is the reason why fascism isn't considered appropriate.
Mussolini's worst mistake was to ally with Hitler.
>Over my dead body, chairman kung pow.
So we must assume that you're already dead?
>Nah communist are the bad guys and americans supporting liberal multiculture are the goodies :^)
It is the reason that I have made this:
Th ultimate blue pill of the west.
What you don't understand is that the the "multicultural progressive liberals" in the United States are also communist.
Are you also queer socialist Bulgarian?
Which part of ''all will have to work.'' You dont understand.
I know that all this modern PC bullshit is not what communism was about but Eastern European countries seem culturally impoverished compared to what they would have been had communism never been imposed, same in China. Seems to me communism really ripped the spiritual heart out of these nations, on the other hand it did protect them from the degenerate liberalism of the west.
Maybe I'm not explaining myself well. But for me Marxism is essentially nihilistic and materialist since it reduces everything down to economic relations, the identity politics bullshit is just taking this mentality to the social sphere.
Aristocratic, traditional societies are superior.
Which part of "motivation" don't you get?
If you don't do it for your people, just for "muh humoonz" and not for money then you'd have to be motivated by force or just really fucking bored.
Which part of "IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK YOU PIECE OF SHIT COMMIE SCUM", you don't understand?
A commie calling other retarded... wow..
Marx(jewish) Lenin(jewish) Trotsky(jewish)
No thanks, kike.
Implying that welfare capitalism is anything else than communist attempt at infiltrating capitalism.
>Are you also queer socialist Bulgarian?
No because I know what I'm talking about. I was raised in post socialistic society.
I saw how everything collapsed and was stolen.
I'm a witness how our population is becoming slave to these who stole everything.
As capitalism improved upon feudalism (another backwards and corrupt yet historically necessary mode of production), so too will communism improve upon (and indeed, perfect) the system of global capitalism.
And by those who stole everything you mean ex-communist elite
You are stupid little shit that probably had some relative in the communist nomenclature so you benefited somehow and have heard good stories about good ole communism.
Well you little shit, you are wrong. What communism did is force all the rich and smart people out of the country or kill them if they stayed and took all their shit for the "state" which was actually a new political elite, more tyrannical than all previous ones. Communism in Bulgaria bred retarded peasants with no critical thinking and forced them into the cities, by taking their farms and building commieblocks. This kills the city culture and that's why we have a huge fuckload of retarded peasants everywhere making life miserable in general.
What i am really trying to say is that one day pro-jewish commie leeches like you will meet the rope.
It's doing some mighty fine improving. USSR, Yugoslavia and North Korea are have just about replaced Capitalism.
No no no.
You see my people can never do wrong.
IT WAS THE FUCKING FOREIGN CORPORATIONS!!!11
Bloody commie scum needs to be removed. When it's in the west at least you can use ignorance as an excuse, when it is in a post communist place, it's just retardness.
We can learn a thing or 2 from South Korea.
Just saying ;)
>Which part of "motivation" don't you get?
What "motivates" you to become the shitter of Europe by inviting all that African scum?
Motivation is overrated. Most people just enjoying doing things.
Don't bother with little kids.
It is true that the intelligentsia left the country when communism came.
But it's also fucking true that solid and rapid industrialization took place.
Why do you think people are able to survive nowadays? If it wasn't for the Soviet-style apartment blocks Bulgaria would be a 3rd world country
>Znam za kvo prikazvam brato
Also, capitalism works only the exploiters, not the exploited. Look at how well Bulgaria fares nowadays - it makes every single last person with some brain leave the country!
>gommunism will fix the NWO
Except gommunism is the final form of the NWO.
Sweden is far from "shitter", if anyone is shitter in Europe it's countries like ours which are all post socialst states. We won't get anywhere near the quality of life in Sweden in hundreds of years because of retards like you. All of those africans are going there BECAUSE of leftist morons like you.
At least show us the REAL picture of Chile faggot.
Now hold on just a minute there lad.
You cheeky monkey you ;)
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Rapid industrialisation began everywhere post WW2, out industrialisation was a colossal and ineffective failure because it was state owned and state run, which guaranteed fuck ups by the workers because they were all getting paid pretty much the same amount of money and they had nothing to spend them on anyway.Socialism in Bulgaria is widely known as economics of deficits. There were deficits everywhere because it's impossible to predict how many toilet paper rolls you will need in 5 years. All of this made kings the people that worked in administration and had goods that were scarce - cars, apartments, fruits etc. You didn't have that? Too bad you grow up poor as a medieval peasant and just as malnourished and stupid. On top of that you can't even leave your small village if the local authority doesn't give you a paper and they won't.
Man soviet socialism sure was a blast! Those evil americans, it's all their fault, right?
At least show us REAL picture of Communism Bulgarian faggot.
It was pretty good in Bulgaria. That I do know. Maybe the Baltic countries got fucked over by Stalin.
Nevertheless others were better off
It's the same as saying,
"Do you know how bad capitalism fucked up Eastern Europe" when talking capitalism
>Some people don't have nice stuff
>Some people do have nice stuff
>How dare they
>Take their nice stuff and give them to the people who don't
Not like at least 10 human rights where violated in the process, if implemented.
>It was pretty good in Bulgaria.
>state taking literally all of your business for FREE and gives you the wonderful opportunity to work in the state system which gives you exactly 20 cents for a day of work
ahahaha oh wow you must be fucking kidding me?
pls end your life m8
>On top of that you can't even leave your small village if the local authority doesn't give you a paper and they won't.
Holy shit you're fucking retarded.
The commies took your grandpa's farm? You too butthurt because your parents were lazy fucks who didn't use the socialist system to advance in the ranks?
"Economy of deficits" KEK
Deficits began in 1985 due to Perestroika in the USSR you cuck
Learn some Bulgarian history. What little Bulgaria has left today is due to Zhivkov's reign.
For 40 years of capitalism Chile has the same GDP per capita as yours post communist one.
Please don't bring me the one where they're lazy and lack of entrepreneurship.
Chile is a colony and bunch of slaves.
>all those thrid world communists
No thanks. Third world marxism is a joke and those who follow it need to be fucking purged. You are barbarians and are not yet conscious enough to move past capitalism. Sorry but that is just how historical materialism works.
Its hard to type a lot since im writing from my phone but ill try
>clay only has farmland some small industry and natives
>why not industrialize it
>build a factory
>but you know that the people will resist in the future and u don want them to independent
>so factory only assembles the goods while the parts are made in the motherland
>that way if the country breakes off it will dependent of the motherland
HAhahah you just went full retard my m8.
Literally nothing is left of Zhivkov's reign because it was all "privatized" aka stolen and sold for cheap by ex bulgarian communist party members after the fall of the CCCP
There were deficits from the very beginning of the soviet system because it's fucking dysfunctional and as evident it tends to collapse on it's own. It's funny you tell me to learn when you don't know jackshit about what you are talking about. No one with half a brain in Bulgaria supports communism, only the lowest tier parasitic morons.
Well, for one thing, it really has never been tried, unlike third world Marxism which has been repeatedly attempted and failed every single fucking time (as Marx predicted they would.)
>This is just the price of having shit neighbors and not being in the European Union
How about some folks south of you (as a great neighbor) and part of NAFTA.
GDP per capita $16,111 (PPP)
50 years of "capitalism". Poor as fuck.
our GDP per capita is 4915.85 US dollars
How come all the old school socialist look retarded? Is it in their genes?
Did anyone here say it's never been tried? If not, fuck off with your memeposting. Even if the USSR was socialist, does that mean that all socialism has always been and is forever destined to be a straight line path to gulags and Holodomors? (hint: it doesn't.)
Fascism, going away from the cult of personality and stuff. Is about the government managing the economy by acting as a midway point between Unions and Companies. There are more stuff but that is one of the main differences between that and Nationalist Socialism which subsidizes companies and hates unions.
But it is forever destined to be a straight path to failure.
Daily reminder that communism killed more than 100 million people simply for having different political opinions making it objectively the worst political ideology ever perpetrated against humanity.
>We won't get anywhere near the quality of life in Sweden
>Being raped by niggers
>Being raped by taxes to feed these niggers
>Being forbid of private life, booze at will and freedom of expression
>Being corporate slave
"Quality" of life. Lol no. They jus give you teh minimum in order to keep you alive. it is not very different from what we had. BUT AT LEAST WE KEPT OUR DIGNITY AND BRAINS.
Actually, literacy rates and educational progress skyrocketed in the Soviet era. Your average Soviet citizen had access to a lot of art (both old and modern) in galleries, concerts, dance performances, and literature. The main drawback was just that artistic content was often censored if the government felt threatened. The USSR wasn't anywhere near as culturally deprived as it was portrayed as being in some media.
It's an instrument of any economical logic.
Even communist states had to deal with it.
Like ours, when our great leader was so obsessed with it he starved the nation while focusing on paying it. At least his debt clearance gave us a bit of a not bad position once communism was removed.
the USSR accomplished all that from an even more backwards society in a fraction of the time. The life expectancy doubled in some places IIRC. In the other areas it almost doubled.
Or maybe you are the liar and not accepting fucking reality.
No surprise you are a Greek and till recently you got babysat by the west with only now facing consequences of Socialism.
Reminder that if USA didn't steal German scientists have the Jews side with them, the Union would have been on the moon first, and yet was still ahead in brilliant minds and public appeal compared to the US at the time. Checkmate, capitalist dogs.
Bulgarian GDP per capita - 7,851.3
Swedish GDP per capita - 58,938.8
We are worse than many of the african countries those niggers are coming from and going to Sweden, all thanks to communism and the communism made fake democracy.
By the way, two can play at the cherry-picking game.
>Bulgaria Average net salary 693 BGN/ 354 € (September 2015) (monthly)
>Sweden Average net salary
2,155 € / 2,910 $, monthly (2006)
sure told me retard
хaхa къдe cи тpъгнaл дa мe oбиждaш ceлcки гoвнap, ти тpъгнa дa пpикaзвaш зa Швeция кaк видиш ли били злe пoнeжe нe ca имaли тyкa ceляци кaтo бaй Toшo дa ги мaчкaт... ape eби cи мaйкaтa и мpи в лaйнa oтпaдък
It was about Mexico lad.
Not to mention that with tose 354 euro you can go to a decent restaurant at least twice a week. And the Swede fucktards cannot afford anything different than ikea meat balls and some dirt cheap kebab with their 2000 euro.
not the answer i was looking for
>Fascism, going away from the cult of personality and stuff. Is about the government managing the economy by acting as a midway point between Unions and Companies. There are more stuff but that is one of the main differences between that and Nationalist Socialism which subsidizes companies and hates unions.
what is the point of acting as a midpoint between companies/unions?
why does nat soc hate unions?
i assume nat soc subsidizes companies if they serve for the assumed "greater good" of the people?
My understanding of both facism and nat soc is that they are both similar, except nat soc enforces an ethnic angle meanwhile facism a cultural one?
They can afford free university, free healthcare, free everything. Meanwhile half of the people here are barely surviving and can't afford basic medicine.
I am sure they are so happy with going to a shitty restaurant that serves them the cheapest food, covered in salt to mask the awful taste and overpriced to hell because that's what restaurants here are.
You know that the most corrupt official in human history was also a rabid anti-socialist who is remembered favorably by right-wingers the world over? He ruled Indonesia from the mid 1960s until 1998, during which time had his troops butcher hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of innocents, invaded nearby East Timor and started a conflict that killed about a third of that country's population, and embezzled between fifteen and thirty-five billion dollars.
The funny thing is that the number of Cuban refugees, even with a tolerant USA policy of acceptance, is much, much smaller than the number of refugees fleeing the effects of right-wing regimes throughout Latin America.
Shut the FUCK UP you dirty son of a bitch Soros shill!
GDP per capita $40,900 (PPP)
GDP per capita 17,869 (PPP)
Our GDP is close to the half of these subhumans. And we have capitalism from just a decade.
Now tell me how "bad" was the communism for us.
The point of acting as a middle point is improving productivity
The nat soc hate unions because Unions back then where quite Communist, and where seen as such.
They ussualy subsidize War Industry and such.
Not really. Cause Mussolini, hated the slavs, while Hitler still pushed for culture. Though if we go by focus you are correct using those two examples, but it might differ with other nations.
>They can afford free university, free healthcare, free everything.
Yeah, but It is NOT free, because muh 60% taxes on almost everything.
Not to mention that you need to wait 6 moths in order to see your "free" dentist for example.
Well, communism will mean that the useful idiots will end up in a gulag or a mass grave...
I'm torn, I love my first amendment rights, but I am willing to take a job as a commissar in order to give SJWs and Feminazis what they deserve (see my gulag and mass grave statement)
collapsed because of more than just "muh communism."
Torn apart by nationalist assholes and capitalists.
Living standards in the Koreas were very similar until a few decades ago. One of them was isolated and slapped with harsh economic sanctions. The other received generous amounts of foreign aid. I'm surprised North Korea is still standing. Still, it's not socialist anymore. It's run by Juche.
As much as anti-socialists love that image, it's incorrect if you're trying to imply that nobody has electricity there. Electricity is present in developed areas, but is turned off at nighttime to conserve power. Images like that have to be taken at nighttime.
No but you see.
MUH FREE SHIT
Anyone who wants Socialism can be summed up in tree different categories:
>MUH FREE SHIT
>Muh intellectual, gender equality, non religion neck beard utopia
>I am retarded, but red goes faster
>Electricity is present in developed areas, but is turned off at nighttime to conserve power.
I'm so glad I live in the a first world capitalist nation. Can you imagine no air conditioner at night, while simultaneously not being able to shitpost of your favorite mongolian cavepainting board? A truly hellish idea imho.
Their GDP is not very bigger than yours:
GDP per capita Increase $19,712 (PPP)
GDP per capita $35,485 (PPP)
But their living costs are not that high.
Also we are the largest growing EU economies. Since we began embracing Capitalism, still a long way to go, and don't want it happening out of a sudden.
Stalin killed around twenty million if you don't count WWII.
Mao killed 38 million by most estimates.
Lenin's kill count by millions was at most in the single digits, and most of that was from war. Where the fuck did you get that number?
The smaller names would barely bring the kill count up at all.
I'm definitely not a supporter of Stalin or Mao or even Lenin, but those numbers are bullshit.
Also, capitalism has killed millions. You just don't hear about it that often.
>Also we are the largest growing EU economies.
You are growing for 10 years.
These fuckers are growing for 60 years.
Daily reminder that communism was not that bad. Everything was just US propaganda and lack of bananas for the average Nicolae Romanescu.
If socialism was as bad as the nuts in this thread are saying, the literacy rate would have gone down. Also, many parts of the world did NOT see a rise in literacy rates at that time. Maintaining rapid growth like that in such a short amount of time shows that socialism is at least competent at some things.
>Why was there a lack of bananas?
Bananas were luxury because we did not had merikan money to buy them from the merchant.
And the merchant does not wanted to use our commie shekels as payment, because he was instructed that we're the enemy and we mus suffer the lack of bananas and other stuff.
Bananas ruined communism.
Economic extortion 101. As usual.
Domestic policy and economic policy are 2 separate things anon.
You can try to conflate them all you want, but in this instance you are mistaken.
Makes wonder what other positions you are mistaken on..
>Communism failed to protect it's banana supply, so it seems communism failed in general.
I'm not arguing about that. Just explaining the situation. Communism was not that bad (from global economic point of view), if they had managed to bring these little luxuries to the people they would be recognized as a superior to this day.
It is what's the Scanditards trying to do, but we will see how long they will survive.
>they would be recognized as a superior to this day.
But they aren't anon. They are recognized as failures for this very reason. They couldn't compete with the capitalist west. If you look at it from a 'survival of the fittest' point of view, you can see the blatant failures of cummunism vs the capitalist west
>Tell that to all Communist ideologues and to the Soviet Union, heck even old China.
Daily reminder that, you don't have mudslimes and niggers in your country because of COMMUNISM.
Daily reminder that in 1950 Communists wanted to take all the Coastal Land from Romania, Bulgaria and make it a new state.
Also we had no mudslimes before Communism, even before we became an Independent Kingdom.
Since we defended our heritage.
>They are recognized as failures for this very reason.
Sure thing senpai. Please meet your debtholders.
>Also we had no mudslimes before Communism
So was the Sweden. But the merchant taught them that multiculturalism is the new trendy shit in the neighborhood. The rest is history.
Communism shielded you against this. Deal with it.
You think that means something. LOL
China can feel free to collect on the debt at their leisure.
Actual communists are dead. There's almost no legitimate movements left. They're all caricatures and shitty re-imaginations. Which is great, because communism is a load of shit anyway and it warms my heart that only nutcases take it seriously.
Try OUR economy.
You're in it too, faggot.
Bring it down, and watch global trade fall apart.
You're sick enough to want to watch billions suffer for your personal political dreams aren't you?
>You're sick enough to want to watch billions suffer for your personal political dreams aren't you?
>Capitalism not paying it's debts
>Because capitalism is a giant fraud
>No bananas for the capitalist people because muh economic collapse
B-b-b-but anon capitalism is superior than communism.
Admit that you want to watch all the people in the world suffer even more to bring about your pipedream utopian paradise and we can talk.
And we already covered this. see>>59977701
You can justify any denial of the truth you like, but capitalism won the cold war for a reason.
Identity politics is a communist mechanism.
it was simply hijacked by those aiming to make profit because where there is profit to be made selling the trinkets, clothes and other identifiers to " cultural revolutionaries" who aren't sure who they identify with.
> internationalist and materialist just like global capitalism
this is my perception of it.
But try telling anyone about materialism on the left and they will just smugly agree as if they own anti-materialism.
>shills calling nonshills shills
Communism is a disaster, both in theory and in practice and you idiots never account for the fundamental problem: greed. You assume that just because you rob the rich that it will make you saints, but the leaders always end up with lavish lifestyles, while their citizens live in abject poverty.
So you're angry at south korea for taking out the trash? Also communism has a death toll of around 100 million so they shouldn't be criticizing anyone for killing people who support death
>bad things happen during war
>capitalism doesn't work
then leave the country you dolt, you are in a capitalist country. Go to china where it's nice a cozy politically for you. You critics never do anything but criticize and consume, put your words into action and live the life of a communist if you believe the philosophy