Should females be allowed to be topless in public?
If we gave them that right, do you think they would cry sexual harassment if a guy glances at their nips?
I'm on the fence about it... I like the idea of equal rights, but I don't want my girlfriend walking around public topless. (This is mainly because she is smoking hot and I'm selfish and don't want other people getting to see her tits, which is a great privilege to me.)
No that's something that while beautiful is still associated with sex and sex really doesn't belong in public. Also it would probably lead to more rape. The only case where I think it's fine is if it's breastfeeding preferably hidden by a jacket or something.
EVEN IF A WOMAN WALKS AROUND NUDE, SMILES AT YOU AND LIES FLAT ON THE FLOOR WITH HER LEGS SPREAD AND "RAPE ME" WRITTEN WITH LIPSTICK ON HER BELLY, SHE'S STILL NOT ASKING FOR IT, SHITLORD
>Soulless, dead eyes
>Unnaturally dyed hair
It's good that many women openly broadcast their mental damage
Answer to the OP pic is because female breasts are secondary sexual characteristics and are more erogenous than male nipples and breasts.
Women can't walk around topless just as men can't walk around without trousers and underwear on.
>Should females be allowed to be topless in public?
In my books a girl can whip out her tittes if she wants to
>If we gave them that right, do you think they would cry sexual harassment if a guy glances at their nips?
someone probably would but no one would take them seriously
>but I don't want my girlfriend walking around public topless
You are a cunt you need to share them tits with the world
go ahead post some pics
>swedish males have almost no masculine features anymore
>females rightfully wonder why they can't show their nips if the bitch boys can
It is a valid question.
Breasts are actual secondary sexual characteristics and - if theories are to believed - developed solely as a substitute for the ass, that wasn't in our faces anymore when we started walking upright. So their sole purpose is to stimulate males to make them pursue the female, I guess that will be a bit risky to justify.
Though I personally wouldn't have much of a problem, really helps doing away with nasty surprises thanks to (wonder)bras.
That boys body is not fucking normal wtf he would be so bullied in every school in stockholm no wonder he turned femenist i bet he only had girls as friends from sympathy jesus fucking christ i want to beat his weak little as shit
>only if they're okay with men looking at them in a sexual manner
>only if they're okay with an increase of women getting sexually assaulted
>only if they're okay with the "value" of women going down
If they're okay with that, then it's fine by me.
There's nothing I want more than some broad to talk about freeing the nipple in casual conversation with me so I can call her bluff and tell her to take her top off right now if being topless isn't a big deal.
Male pecs and female breasts aren't the same. Female breasts are sexualized and therefore inappropriate in public in a civilized culture. I wouldn't mind seeing tits everywhere (there's topless girls everywhere at raves and festivals and it's great) but this is a retarded argument implying they're equal.
Why is leftism so strongly associated with mental problems? Do ideas of equality resonate with those who are inferior to begin with? Or does leftist degeneracy erode one's mental health over time?
I can't believe I have to explain shame to two teenagers
That theory is bullshit. Breasts didn't develop for sexual purposes, they are mammary glands developed for feeding infants.
In primitive hunter gatherer cultures, no one gives a shit about breasts, usually they are either more interested in the ass or thighs. That's why the women walk around topless.
I don't know why you Americans are so weird about boobs.
If they want to be topless let them.
If you have trouble controlling yourself because some women is showing her boobs you should get yourself checked, that's called mental illness.
Breasts are sex organs. They have erogenous tissue in them which responds to sexual stimulation. Thus, they should be kept away with the other sex organs.
Besides, free hanging breasts without support will droop and sag in a few short years. Women that wear bras maintain their perkiness much much longer
>Do ideas of equality resonate with those who are inferior to begin with?
This one, I think. Ideas of traditional roles and strong masculine and feminine figures make the mentally ill squirm.
As long as men's primary motivator for fucking is appearence, then I would say its probably not a good idea for women to go topless.
Inb4 "train men not to rape :^)"
That's the beauty of this. Exploit this situation. Get the government to legalize women walking the streets with their shirts and panties off.
By the time feminists realize men just legalized it so we can see their tits it will be too late.
Then why do they have erogenous tissue in them?
If no one gave a shit about breasts, there would be no evolutionary pressure to keep them big and well shaped. It is not advantageous for a woman to walk around with large fatty udders hanging off her chest, the only reason they evolved this way is:
A) Ability to provide for the young
B) Sexual selection
Should they be allowed to, yes?
Will they if allowed, probably not.
Boyfriends don't want to lose something they get the right to over everyone else (seeing dem titties). Women will notice even less eye contact, complain to men (like they always do) and some men will attempt to not look, but ultimately it is an impossible behavior to ditch. Women will also lose some power they have over men, just in a general sense. Half the fun of flirting with a woman is getting to see her naked. Also some women's tits suck and other women walking around topless is a huge disadvantage to them.
So lets just pretend this became the norm for like 10 years. After that time, you'd see "I need feminism because I shouldn't have to walk around topless".
This is it. Can't have it both ways. I'm honestly confused beyond anything else by this European obsession with being able to hang tits out.
He's not saying that 'breastfeeding' was invented for sexual purposes (all mammals do it) rather he is referring to the fact that human females have constantly swollen breasts. This is a unique feature - dogs, cats, ape females all have breasts the get enlarged when they produce milk and then shrink to normal (with slight stretching). Humans are unique in that we have big useless tits constantly. I can assure you based on every magazine cover/clickbait youtube image that nice tits are hardwired to appeal to human males regardless of lifestyle.
What the fuck? Is that supposed to be a man on the left? I'm blond and blue eye'd myself but this faggot should kill fucking himself for literally looking like a vagina.
When cunts stop using tits to get what they want and displaying them for sexual currency they can stop being covered.
Alternatively, if you want to live like a fucking primitive go to Africa or some deep dark jungle and enjoy your mud huts and subsistence agriculture bitch.
>If you have trouble controlling yourself because some women is showing her boobs you should get yourself checked, that's called mental illness.
It's not a mental illness to be aroused when presented with a sexually alluring figure. People walking around topless would both erode the value of intimacy and distract people during their day-to-day activities.
They won't ever do it it's a very minority viewpoint.
Even if they did it wouldn't last a year because they would get cold and put something on over it, tits were not made to he out in the open
Because men's nipples are non functional. They are not a secondary sexual organ as the breast is in women.
It's normal to be aroused, you can also be aroused by non naked women, that's normal.
However if you can't control yourself enough to not jump on her and fuck her like a filthy nigger, that's mental illness.
why are women trying so hard to be not attractive?
as if dyeing your hair and wearing clown makeup wasn't enough now you want to let your titties hang out like abbo niggers who don't even know what lightbulbs are to the eventual goal of what, having men not get sexually excited by looking at you? What is the feminist endgame?
Do they have an endgame?
>implying women plan for the future
That's a reductio ad absurdum fallacy. Exposed sexual organs would distract people significantly, even if they don't act on their urges. In fact, not acting on them may keep them more distracted, as they would potentially spend long periods of time in states of arousal with no release.
It's just another Chesterton's fence. There's no single, objective reason why female nipples should be more lewd than male ones but there's no single objective reason to remove the societal norm either, apart from mindless EVERYTHING MUST BE EXACTLY THE SAME AND EQUAL IN ALL CASES dogmatism. Women's breasts are an erogenous zone and they have absolutely nothing to gain by pushing this.
>get rid of this minor double standard that harms nobody
>the next thing is 'well why do we cover up genitals it's just nature LOL'
>end up with absolutely no seperation between our public appearance and what we show those we're intimate with
>literally living like animals
>for some reason this is a good thing
Because nudism and topfreedom should be recreational, not 'the standard'.
It is also not very civilized, like some of the other blokes have pointed out.
>no one would take them seriously
Remember when the entire feminist mouvement was a joke, well it's still is, but only of /pol/. People are actually believing that shit, and your kids will grow up tolerating it whether you want it or naah. never underestimate the stupidity of people.
>Because women have sex organs
The last time I checked, Breasts were not involved in sexual reproduction. If you've found otherwise, there's a Nobel Prize in medicine awaiting you.
Why is it okay to complain about not having the right to show your tits when wars erupt left and right and innocents die, poor people die of cold and malnutrition when we largely have the ability to help them...
Are those so-called feminists blind?
>Sexual assault is any involuntary sexual act in which a person is coerced or physically forced to engage against their will, or any non-consensual sexual touching of a person.
Basically any touching they don't like.
Quite frankly, this sort of thing doesn't matter. It's not a herald of the end of Western Civilization if they are allowed. It's not some tragic human rights atrocity if they aren't.
People in the first world get bent out of shape over bullshit non-issues like this way too much.
Or maybe it was sexual harassment, can't remember which.
I remember it from some case where an asian business man pat his female employees on the shoulder (which is normal in his culture, it's a way of boosting morale there) and got sued for sexual harassment/assault/whatever.
Basically, don't touch people you aren't already friendly with unless they make it clear they're ok with it.
>he doesn't want men to fuck his girl but never get the chance
>he's so insecure that his girl will leave him for the first guy that oggles his girl's tits.
Gotta get over this sempi, if men don't want to fuck my girl, she must look like shit.
> why is this okay when this is not?
Well the specimen on the right has tattoos, a cattle nose piercing, violet hair, no chin and of course a shitload of cuts.
Oh wait, you're talking about tits.
The nipples are also connected directly to the clit so when you stimulate the nipples, the labia gets goosebumps.
Try it on your girlfriend if you have one or yourself if you are a grill
Really Hoser, is that the best you can do? No explanation of your premise, just running your mouth like a fucking dindu. Too bad about that faggot you have for a leader, huh? We have Emperor Trump incoming, while you are cucked.
If topless was legal, then all the sloppy tittied fat lazy slobs will skip wearing a top..
Girls with nice tits will still be clothed.. why?
1) They aint giving that shit away free, &
2) don't need to comments and stares.
So, the law is in place to keep ugly shit from being ugly shit.
In any civilized country, it is seen as right and proper for women to walk around with exposed breasts.
>Brain produces oxitocine
>Men are biologically attracted to them.
>Promotes bonding between couples
>only species that grows boobs after puberty
>erogeneous zone with big sexual stimulation
This is an ancient Buddhist painting from 1500 years ago in India. These people had writing, sophisticated philosophy, and invented shit like the concept of zero. And the women were topless. This came before the "poo in loo" savagery of post Islamic conquest modern India.
This is merely the beginning. After they are allowed to walk around with bare boobies they will complain about men looking at them oddly or in a sexualized manner and after men stop staring at them they will complain that men are no longer staring at them. Women will somehow manage to find something even more insignificant to bitch about, because bitching is literally the only thing this generation of women is good for. They dont even give birth anymore ffs. Cant we just shoot them already?
Attractive if fit, funny if fat and the guy wont be offended
Might be attractive look, but the odds are really fucking slim, most of the time they look like garbage so you would probably laugh at chick for showing them
I am pretty sure that 99% of all women dont even want to show their tits because they all have disgustingly looking sand sacks hanging from their chest.
They are already being raped in Europe, without topless.
you're right, a successful but forgotten 500 year old far eastern kingdom justifies western modern women going topless
>this is the aztec empire; they had art and writing, and they sacrificed virgin women to the sun god on top of a pyrmaid
by Allah I would just slap them back to their senses, getting tired of this western feminism SHIT, i have 0 respect for worthless mentally damaged whores
>don't want my girlfriend walking around public topless.
So the only reason she doesn't flash her tits at every passing guy already is that it's illegal? Sounds like your relationship isn't going to last...
I-I didn't realize they both weren't women. The one on the right just looks like a flat sullen butch
Sweden knows exactly why.
But their feminists are now telling their women to dress more modestly so they don't invite muslim rape. They've gone so full circle that they're eating themselves.
Sorry, but that predicate attaches to you. A fact is a fact: the post I replied to implied that only savage spearchuckers had barechested women, and a retort was in order.
Now, you are cordially invited to pound salt up your ass and fuck off.
I think it would be a little ridiculous for a woman to get arrested for having her tits out
Sure its ok with me. I mean topless schoolgirls is completely acceptable and natural too right?!
In fact genitalia is only flesh so why wear bottoms too.
Naked school girls all the way, yaaayyy for nature.
Ask yourself the question: Why do we have any laws in the first place? I would answer
1. For a stable society
2. To prevent people from hurting or damaging others.
Are topless women a threat to our society? Do they hurt others with their vicious display?
I don't think so.
>Panini's Grammar, which influenced modern linguistics like Chomsky's grammar.
Schopenhauer called the Upanishads some of the greatest philosophy he'd ever read. I'll take his opinion over some random jackoff like you.
Well, look at it scientifically. Over the past 2 million years, we have evolved all our behaviors and traits, including our mating behaviors.
This includes mating displays and our response to them.
Feminists want you to forget the science, that showing boobs means babies and sex and procreation *from an evolutionary standpoint* and men are evolved to respond to such visual stimuli. Seeing boobs means sex and sex means babies and thus the urge to procreate occurs.
This is evolution. It's all animals, not just us. Baboons react to seeing red asses. Peacocks to tails. It's just science.
And because the showing of female boobs is an evolutionary evolved mating display, it doesn't need to be casual visible indiscriminately like arms and elbows.
It's not denying equal rights. It's accepting science.
And only feminists and christian fundamentalists don't believe in evolution.
Sure let the cunts devalue themselves even further by making their naked bodies even more accessible. They are already inferior to porn and a good internet connection, fuck'em. Yes they will still claim harassment and microagressions, just more often.
P.S. this is already legal in many states in the US.
Show off your tits for all I care, then will you women finally stop complaining?
Neverending bitching and moaning.
Mfw that is what is considered a "male" in Sweden
This is what's considered a male in Sweden.
Some anon will have to correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure I read breast function in that regard is independant of size unless you're talking about girls with almost 0 boobs. It's mostly the tissue surrounding he nipple that is involved, the rest is fat. That's why fat girls tend to have huge racks.
Implying women would give up one of their deception tools, they'll want hold onto the ability of lying about the shape and size of their tits. Next they'll bitch about supposedly being forced to wear make-up.
He's just a young lag, m8. What do you want him to have, braids of chest hair down to his dick and a roided out physique?
You can tell from his shoulder to hip ratio he's just a young guy who's yet to get rid of his puppy fat probably because he's been told exercise is toxic masculinity.
Is /pol/ really this filled with angsty faggots lashing out at blue-pilled men who are probably only as unfit and unimpressive as most of pol is?
Maybe you have to be a little bit nuts to go against mainstream.
Also, living in society is a constant state of repression and frustration, sublimating into all the fuckups we see every day.
So, go ahead and cast that stone if you're "normal"
Arent they allowed already in most states?
Most women wont want to anyway. They arn't really fighting for being topless in public, they are fighting for the de-sexualization of women and they are fighting a losing battle, always will be.
If they want to show their tits on social media let them, the only ones who will do it are fucking munters anyway. Won't be socially acceptable for them to be topless in public anytime soon though.
>Don't show us the menu if the kitchen is closed
High-dollar restaurants do this all the time.
Generally walking by, their menu is posted near the door and they might not open until 6:00PM.
So why are some questionably gory/horror movies restricted at age 6, but something as natural as a naked woman's body is age restricted at age 18. Handing a 15 year old boy pic related is illegal.
I really would not give a shit if it were allowed but it would make them less attractive in my eyes.
Once you have played with enough titties and they are not that enthralling anymore when naked. I get aroused when they are covered up or propped up in a sexy way. I like my ladies wrapped up like a beautiful present that needs unwrapping.
If they didnt cover up I would see them in the same way I see rural spear chuckas
It's not OK for men to go topless in public unless it's at a pool or beach.
It's not OK for women to go topless in public.
So do they want to be able to go topless at the pool or beach, since that's the only exception? They can do it at the beach in Europe, so all that's missing is the pool, I guess.
This. And how often do you see women do this? Hardly ever.
Give women the right to be topless and they don't really care enough to take advantage of it, so having it outlawed doesn't make a difference.
>It's not OK for men to go topless in public unless it's at a pool or beach.
And here I was thinking this was a good look for a job interview...
>Should females be allowed to be topless in public?
No, absolutely not.
Breasts are a part of sexual attraction. Hell the reason women have breasts is because of men selecting the larger breasted females specifically for procreation throughout our species history...
Why else do you think humans are the only apes with breasts?
They also can nourish your offspring. They are too personal to have exposed everywhere all willy billy like that.
Men should dress women for them because they can't be trusted to do it in a humble way by themselves.
The only type of women who will do this are the ones who don't have anything to lose for flashing their tits i.e. purple-haired feminazis. Even if you made it inoffensive people would still not want to see saggy knockers sometimes... that goes for both sexes
Can a woman rub a man's chest with out being charges with sexual assault?
Can a man rub a woman's chest with out being charged with sexual assault?
As long as tits are sexual in nature they should be covered.
In theory, it should be okay, otherwise it'd a double standard. In practice, the double standard exists and I wouldn't advise women to go around topless if they don't want to be harassed.
Read the whole article.
>The male or female breast, nipple and areola develop similarly in the fetus and during infancy. At puberty, the male's breasts remain rudimentary but the female's develop further, mainly due to the presence of estrogen and progesterone, and become more sensitive.
>Erect nipples can be a prominent indicator of a female's sexual arousal, and the female's sexual partner may, as a result, find this erotically stimulating.
>The stimulation of women's nipples promotes the production and release of oxytocin and prolactin. During the stimulation of the nipples, large amounts of oxytocin are released, which would normally prepare women's breasts for breastfeeding. Besides creating maternal feelings, it also decreases a woman's anxiety and increases feelings of bonding and trust.
>Some women can achieve an orgasm as a result of nipple stimulation.
Not only should we let them, but we should then encourage them to walk through non-white districts (because whitey so bad and all).
There should be no problems, because those non-whites already know that rape is not legal.
In this type of context. It is used as a derogatory term. As in, you see the person as less than human, or "just" as an object, and not a living breathing being.
Kind of dumb, but just explaining.
Fact is that in our culture tits are highly sexualised. If you want women to treat tits casually and as just part of the female aesthetic go live with some Amazon or African tribes.
Our laws should reflect our morals and values where it's sane to do so, and this is one of those times.
God look at the disgusting NuMale to the left, he's small, weak and skinny. Look at the resentment in his eyes. He knows he lost the genetic lottery, he knows that no girl will ever fuck him consensually, he's angry and bitter at his fate and has to take it out on anyone in a better position than him.
Now look at the women, you can tell she's mentally deranged, she belongs in an insane asylum for those cut marks alone. She's in the bottom 20% of unfuckable women. That not even the desperate NuMales will touch.
They both hate themselves and each other, but they hate happy normal people even more. They form a cabal to undermine and destroy everything that normal society stands for. Things such as their People, their Nation, their Race. If they cant be happy then noone can.
This is where feminism recruits, from the bottom barrel of society, with each generation getting progressively infantilized, more and more deranged degenerates are born into a crumbling society.
Imagine all the boners that would be popped.
Then women would call sexual harassment. "He's clearly sexualizing me, your honor! Just look at that bulge!"
But of course it would not be sexual harassment for the woman to look at the bulge.