>>59956782 Let me guess, da evul 1% won't be affected at all because their lawyers will find them all the loopholes and this will only end up raising the taxes of the middle class and fucking them over.
>>59956782 Bernies tax plan got leaked two days ago. Here it is:
>"Rich people will pay for everything! >taxes on the middle and lower classes will also rise, but ignore that >somehow by paying the government, money will trickle back down to my voters >my voters will receive free stuff >and rich people will pay for everything!"
>>59958681 You think Bernies supporters actually read? They just have it filtered down to them from Bernies feel good speeches and hack jobs from the media, they get told it will work and they never actually look at it for themselves
>>59958482 Unless he's a wizard wo can conjure up resources and golems to work as teachers and healthcare providers at no cost whatsoever, there is no such thing as "free college" or "free healthcare".
>>59958542 No economic conservative can refute the simple fact that most technologically advanced economies will have greater and greater welfare states simply due to automation creating a large class of people who are permanently un/underemployed.
Neets are the canaries in the coal mine that is the modern economy. No amount of "muh free market" will fix this problem.
>>59959163 so the solution is to steal other peoples money to keep dumb fucks alive? guess what, faggot. if your job is so menial that it can be accomplished by a machine, you dont deserve to live in the greatest country on earth
>>59956782 >implying it will make any goddamn sense >implying he could ever beat Hillary even if it did >implying Trump wouldn't beat Sanders in a landslide even if he DID get nominated >implying you aren't a fag
>>59957007 >Go to work making 90k annually >Take home is only 25k >You live in absolute squalor >You can't afford anything outside of basic necessities >You live in a building filled with people that don't work at all, whom have better standard of living than yourself. >They don't work, so they have more free time to pursue personal hobbies, exercise, have friends etc... all on your dime >Everything is provided for them, housing, clothing, food, electronics, medical care, transportation, etc. >You die young due to depression, being overworked, lack of exercise, and a lack of basic medical care (that you unfortunately make too much to receive - your before tax salary is considered for enrollment) >During your funeral, your small apartment is broken into & robbed of the few possessions that you could call "luxury," by the people you supported with your 70% tax rate >Your name is only remembered as a number as political economists try to explain the low worker involvement and the diminishing tax base as America slips into 2nd world status to 3rd world status, to finally civil war.
>>59959497 youre a special kind of stupid, are you? whos going to pay for this universal income if nobody's working? who's going to pay for those excellent machines that can do everything better than a human being? youre not making any sense. 100% of the population would starve to death before that system can work effectively
>finally work my way up to getting over $250,000 a year >Bernie is going to tax me 90% >now obtaining poverty pay while doing accounting that most people can't do >Carlos who does my lawn now makes more than me mowing yards and his kids get free tuition Why do I want Bernie again?
>>59959758 Huh? I didn't say everyone would be unemployed and neither did the guy in that video, and I hate to break this to you but a lot of the machines have already been made, and the next generation of said machines will be even cheaper.
How does anyone support this looney toon? I have 3 friends on Facebook that constantly shill about him: one girl that got a toilet paper degree and travels on her parents money, one guy who's never had a job in his mind and is the most stereotypical redditor, and one guy who tries to "debate" everyone through Facebook comments while acting pseudo -intellectual
>>59960109 Because they are parasites whom live off of their parent's money, and they don't understand why others must live in poverty, when they could just as easily live off of everyone else's money.
They have been told that they are special, that they are unique, and that the world values them by their parents. However, they've lied and have been lying for far too long. They need to admit to their children that they are disappointments, that the fact that they are unable to support themselves angers them. The only reason they continue do so, is by a knee-jerk reaction to continue their bloodline.
>>59960109 Because we have a growing number of people who will never be able to contribute to the economy in a meaningful way, and the simple reality of the matter is that those people will vote for the candidate that they think best represents their interests.
>>59960283 >EOs are nulled as soon as sitting president leaves And even then >implying Bernie has the balls to declare himself dictator and basically scrap the entire Constitution I wish a kike would. It would destroy the Dems forever. Plus watching a sitting president get shot on live TV would be fun.
>>59959864 so what if you didnt say it, its still going to happen. and, of course, you didnt consider the innevitable backlash it would entail. you think 50% of the population will agree to be replaced by a machine? also not considering the unions who are as powerful as the government. complete automation will never happen. when people get fed, they will retaliate. you cant replace human beings with machines and expect everyone to be cool with it.
>>59960493 >>59960392 States that are self-sufficient and don't rely on Federal tax dollars *cough* Texas *cough* will secede, by force, and they will promise to only charge the original state tax.
Every high tech industry, every high tech worker, etc will flock to Texas. This will make housing unaffordable for the poor minorities in Texas and they will be forced out of the state back into Federal US Territories. Bringing more people in that are self-sufficient will lower the tax rate, almost completely eliminating all social welfare systems in the state.
The state will become a power house, other right-wing states will want to emulate Texas. Workers & industry will flock to those states for the lower price of housing. Texas will make interstate agreements with these remaining bastions of freedom and capitalism. These states will eventually be pulled into confederate union.
The rest of America will slowly corrode into a 3rd world shit hole, incapable of keeping the lights on. The US govt will have lost most of it's military might to the last free states that are now economic powerhouses, containing 90% of the US's previous wealth.
>>59961245 >i would prefer we could respect the law of the land and the Balance of Powers but for some reason the other side doesn't agree with me so fuck it, let's just go full dictator mode >vote for me 2016
>>59959163 This wouldn't be a problem if immigration hadn't been pushed as a solution to diminishing native population. Automation and population diminishment go hand in hand, and we could have had a real paradise for those remaining. When robots take over the economy, which place do you think will be better: Japan, a safe, selt-reliant nation with low(er) population density or the USA, a bloated, crime-ridden welfare state filled with unemployed niggers?
>>59962479 So a bunch of neocons are suddenly gonna turn socialist because a 70 yr old Jew who cries when people pick on him told them to. That would completely lift the veil off the 2 party system as a democracy.
I can already see this Bernie tax plan >so guys >here is the plan >we go get the rich top1% >then we tax them at the rate of 90% >and now no one else have to pay anything! >"But Bernie, if we tax them at 90% they are just going to move their companies to other countries (like most of the biggest ones already did)" >but... >then who is going to pay for all this "free" shit?..
>>59960109 >one girl that got a toilet paper degree and travels on her parents money
Literally every Bernie supporter, ever. The sad thing is that lots of these kids will never have to eat shit, experience competition, or have to work an iota of real work before being handed some kind of academia position or being handed inheritance.
Mind you, these are never the "mega rich". They are the upper-middle class (thinking $150,000 USD to 450,000 per year) kind of kiddos. They're the first to pontificate about the virtues of education and hard work, whist never having experienced either, and they'll inevitably be on the second-from-top rungs of societal control someday.
>>59959923 Both engineers and doctors can be replaced by robots, given sufficiently advanced AI.
No job is safe from being made obsolete. With advanced enough AI, computers and robots can do everything from driving, saving lives, self replicating, and even learning to write continually more advanced and efficient software.
One day, probably far in the future, we'll hit a crisis point. Machines will replace the need for humans. At this point we'll either need to consciously regress our technological progress to keep jobs open for humans, or decided that humans are only to be kept around for their own pleasure. If we choose the latter option, eugenics will come back in full swing and only a very select few humans will be alive on earth at any one time.
I don't need the media to tell me how to think, I'll go right to the source.
>In 2013, the estimated number of murders in the nation was 14,196. This was a 4.4 percent decrease from the 2012 estimate, a 7.8 percent decrease from the 2009 figure, and a 12.1 percent drop from the number in 2004.
Sanders will try to kill the bourgeoisie so the ungrateful, "hard worker" lower class will grow bigger and stronger. Who will be left to pay taxes when the bourgeoisie will account for less than 10% of the population. It doesn't matter.
How do we fix our country? I have some ideas but I doubt they'll ever be put into place
Make the rich and corporations actually pay the taxes they are already SUPPOSED to Reduce bloated military spending, make it more efficient and stream lined Reduce spending on government leeches, limit terms of welfare benefits (people legitimately spend their entire lives living off welfare and refuse to work) Decriminalize possession of drugs in small amounts, make it a fineable offense thus increasing revenue without having to pay for housing inmates Use tax revenue for government health insurance option introducing competition in the health insurance market that does not exist currently, education reform, job creation (infrastructure, green energy)
>Bernie is elected >his reforms somehow don't get blocked >America goes bankrupt >his reforms get blocked >the entire country is paralyzed for 4 years while china and Russia keep living their pieces on the board because they don't bother with silly democratic hypocrisy
>>59973092 Source? Oh you don't have one? You just literally made it up?
>"Sanders has never explicitly proposed a 90 percent tax rate for billionaires, let alone applying that rate across the board.... We asked the Trump campaign how the GOP frontrunner knew what Sanders is proposing, but we didn’t hear back. However, he may be distorting comments Sanders made in May 2015 about the marginal tax rate for the very wealthy." http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2015/oct/20/donald-trump/trump-bernie-sanders-wants-tax-everyone-90-percent/
>>59975162 There are cases in California of illegal workers being deported and the farmers that employed them straight up let the crops sit in the ground and rot because it would have been a bigger loss for them to hire expensive American workers to pick the crops then just letting them rot.
>>59975709 >knowingly hire illegals >get caught >illegals deported >employer not being charged with a felony
Walls are nice, but this is the heart of the beast. Make it so that hiring illegals and getting caught is so devastating, its not worth the risk. If its a small business owner, arrest him and slap a felony on him. Take his time, his money, and his business. If its a corporate entity caught, carry as far up their food chain as you can. Fine the corporation for every higher up that knew and slap that higher up with a felony.
>>59959923 accountants are people who could have been engineers or scientists but realized that the endgame for both is making money, which is pretty reasonable dumbass, and thats comin from an engineering major
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