>rednecks in Oregon
>"we declare war against the United States! I'll die a free man!"
>US Constitution, Article III
>"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them"
I really hope /pol/ realizes it's defending a pack of stupid treasonous dogs.
Sedition is a capital offense; the punishment for treason is death. They will be executed by the US government and rightfully so. Death to each and every traitor.
1. It's not treason
2. The rednecks will win
3. They smoke Marlboros, you smoke cock
I doubt the government is going to lynch a bunch of non hostile people who do not wish to engage in violence.
Inb4 they have guns hurrrr
It would be some mid 80s china-tier shit if they actually kill every one of those men.
The us executes traitors if they've actually caused tangible harm, like those jew snakes who got caught spying for the soviets.
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
>I want to uphold the constitution!
>Constitution plainly states that the Federal Government has a right to Federal lands
>this all started because people were grazing on Federal land and refused to pay for it
>then started fires during a notorious dry month, almost killing a handful of firefighters
As long as these words exist in some form, somewhere, there is hope
>All these government shills since this happened
its always these situations that show how many bots and interns spam this board
every pic or video I see doesn't show any guns at all, how many guns can you see in the OP pic? compare to sayy this pic for example?
That's what your Loyalist forefathers said when flew to Canada to escape the Colonials.
I wonder how many of these typical /pol/shits will go and back these neo-confederate rednecks now that they kicked off their much anticipated "happening". Zero, that's how many. Because they're all a bunch of windbags with a giant yellow stripe on their backs.
"Come and take it"? "Don't tread on me"? Kek, how about you bend over and take Obamas BBC python from behind, fucking pussies
Traitors aren't a bad thing, if the government itself is bad. The American government is too full of liberals, they care more about "helping" non-American citizens with American resources.
When the government starts putting Americans first, I'll start believing in it again.
eat shit you dick smoking faggot OP.
reported, saged, thread hidden, called moot, called the cops, called the FBI, called Obama, called your mother.
You're in trouble now nigga, whatchu gonna do?
No they won't. They'll go home to their beautiful wives and have more patriot babies.
>That fucking ad.
There are few times that I've been as glad that we rebelled as this.
They're definitely traitors who haye their country.
No one who calls themselves a patriot can hate their government. The government represents the country. If you hate your government, then you hate your country.
One of the founding principles of the country was that should a government become overly tyrannical, that the people of that nation have the God-given natural right to overthrow that government and establish a new one. It's in the Declaration of Independence for fuck's sake. It's even been famously said that one of the most patriotic things you can do as an American citizen is not support the government, fuck off leaf.
If you hate your government so much, then why do you fucking have one? Disband it entirely and live in a lawless, anarchistic wasteland if the idea of an organized government is literally worse than hell to you.
You are the treasonous dog here.
Why don't you bend down and suck some government cock more?
>“The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.”
― James Madison
why do you hate freedom but love tyranny?
your parents vote for pierre and you voted for justin..
>It's even been famously said
People who base their ideals on a random out of context quote by one man should really just be culled. You're a negative influence on our society's brainpower. You bring down the national average. Thanks a lot.
It's only treason if the government has obeyed the laws of the Constitution in the first place. What you're basically saying is if the Government can wipe its ass with our Constitution, then no one can do anything about it. Which defeats the purpose of the damn thing.
>I'm totally okay with a government, just as long as it has virtually no power to actually do anything, like say, run a country
>The second that big bad government tries to lay down authority and do something I don't like, I'll yell TYRANNY
The nation wasn't founded upon purely anarchic principles. The founding fathers understood that a state needed some form of limited government to uphold the law, collect and distribute taxes, and provide defense from foreign influence. They also understood that given sufficient time, most governments ultimately become overly tyrannical, and that this tyranny has an adverse effect on a nation's prosperity. They designed a series of checks and balances to prevent the government from reaching this point swiftly, and as mentioned before made a point that a government that has become too tyrannical stands in direct opposition to the natural rights of a citizen, and that therefore they have the right to overthrow and replace it.
Not overthrow and dissolve it. Overthrow and REPLACE it. The idea being that a new, less tyrannical government could be set up, and that this process could repeat should things become bad enough again.
These are very basic and fundamental principles of the United States as an entity.
I could just imagine those rednecks 'ahoopin-n-ahollarin' as they run around setting fire to a national park..
And as in all cases with similar belligerents, /pol/tards will defend it somehow
>try to punish him for the same crime again
Unconstitutional. The government itself is committing treason, any American who does not see a problem with this is a fool to say the least.
This implies you're willing to lay down your life.
So having to lay down your life savings shouldn't stop you.
You just admitted that your life savings aren't enough for a plane ticket to the US, a month's rent in a shithole apartment (to have proof of residency) and a nugget.
So your life is literally worth less than $2k
No matter how cucked I think we are in the US, europe will always top us.
In the government is where you will find the traitors
In this picture stands only heros and patriots
Glory to these men, may the government back down and run away yet again like the cowardly wannabe tyrants they are
We are the government, ass wipe. We elect representatives on our behalf since we all can't be sitting around making laws all day long.
Soon as shit goes south with that setup, that's where some 2nd Amendment house cleaning comes in.
This was a honeypot thread and each of you posting in it are now being investigated by the FBI.
Enjoy your time in those FEMA coffins, fucking white warriors. Lel, you cucks are so stupid. (Btw, every woman in your family will be forced to breed with a black man)
They're basically scumbag poachers who became arsonists to cover up evidence and now have become terrorists when that wouldn't work. They should be executed as traitors to set an example. This shit has only escalated due to federal leniency.
Fucking retard we will wait and see how much you like dude weed lmao man by the time he's finished reaming your maple leaf countries ass
unironically parading meme-snek flags
Only in America!
holy shit i thought militias in the us were a meme. This is why america will never fall to islam. Damn how can europe compete?
Don't get cocky world, real Americans are still out there and one day we will wake up from our drunken stupor and realize we have a transsexual miss-America and when that day comes we will grab our guns and take one last swill of beer and kill and KILL AND KILL until this country is great again.
I shouldn't expect you people to understand
Oregon was a member of the confederacy. Prove me wrong faggots.
Basically these guys want to continue to graze their cows on federal land. The Bureau of Land Management and some other agencies are worried about overgrazing and are trying to limit grazing in areas to prevent problems with the ecosystem, since overgrazing can cause erosion, desertification and promote weeds.
The ranchers don't have the foresight to see that the BLM is acting in the interest of sustainability, and are acting like a bunch of children.
Nah, that's what would happen if a Republican administration was in the White House. Under Obama you've got an incompetent open racist as Attorney General who's going to throw a massive bitch fit every day that there's not a siege going on there. They've openly defied the feds, simply arresting them at work later is still a defeat because then the precedent is set that the government is afraid to confront citizen groupings of as little as a hundred. The response from the feds NEEDS to be big and flashy, unfortunately I believe that is exactly what Bundy intends.
I don't believe this was a spur of the moment decision, from all accounts Bundy's group of around 150 left the protest at the same time without telling anyone where they were gong. Pete Santilli notably was pissed that nobody told him about it, but there's suspicions that he's an informant so it kind of makes sense. These are not the militia members of the 90's, these aren't chubby mechanics who like to dress like soldiers on weekends. A good chunk of these guys are actual veterans and these militia networks are a hell of a lot more connected than they were back in the days of Waco. I'm worried some real heavy shit is about to come down the pipe.
Some agencies do. BLM, USDA, EPA, Forest Service; I think they try to do the right thing but they haven't always known what the right thing is. It's also very difficult to keep everyone happy: environmentalists and ranchers/ farmers want completely different things.
How can you retards not realize this is bait?
These SJW liberal pigs dont even try anymore & they still up at the top of /pol.
Your handing the site over to Tumblr.
opposing a govt that no longer represents its people and tries to snatch its guns is not fit to lead
you deserve a smack in the mouth...defending your rights from a tyranical and opressive govt is one of the founding princibles of the bill of rights you stupid bellend
tfw a bong has to tell you this
SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME
There is no difference between these people and black loves matter. Oh wait,yes there is BLM are law abiding and not in direct rebellion against our elected officials.
White people are scrum
Well according to the FBI there's around 30,000 militia members in the U.S. and I'm guessing if even half of them go full insurgent you're going to see a groundswell of support. The conservative half of the country doesn't listen to the media anymore, not even Fox News. Simply running a 24/7 media loop about how these guys are literally Hitler won't work anymore, they've been trying with Trump for months for example. At this point the situation is still salvageable if the Feds can get things under control within a few months, but if even one red state governor, even on national guard commander or god forbid Army General declares open support then it's happening.
Bah, these ass-monkeys *want* the ebil Feds to shoot at them so that they can get thier martyr-boner on. Don't give it to them.
Shut off the godsdamn power and water and just wait for them to shoot each other.
>muh meme snek
>he thinks 4chins is real life
Wow, get a load of this faggot.
YFW Obama just drops a few bombs to bring them back to reality
>No one who calls themselves a patriot can hate their government.
Right, by this logic George Washington is a traitor that should have been executed by the UK.
You can't just have undying loyalty to the state for the sake of it being the state, mate.
yes, behead them! This would be so progressive
He was put in jail again because an appellate court overruled the Judge's initial leniency.
Committing a class A felony (arson) to cover up 4 class D felonies (illegal hunting) carries a mandatory minimum for 5 years, not 3 months.
Ya, it's called the 2nd Amendment.
Libtards like to play this game of
>DAT CAN NEBBA HAPPEN HEREEEE
>LOL THESE LOONIES AND THEIR GUNS, CLAIMING THE GOVERNMENT IS A TYRANNY
But the Founding Fathers explicitly stated the purpose of the 2nd is for resistance against the government, if it oversteps its bounds. So faggots like Tears Morgan are absolutely wrong. People who pretend tyranny can never come to the USA are, in fact, inviting it. And by all rights, it's probably already here.
12 hours later and #oregonunderattack is still trending?
It seems that totally legit, organic, grass roots has tag it making this a race issue.
My country is so fucked right now.
God speed you high desert kooks.
Got family high up in OSP, may be able to get some insider dirt later
>we want to graze on govt land for free, but since we can't we are going to start fires on government lands. We got caught setting fires and convicted, now lets storm a government building with guns to support our boys because they DINDU NUFFIN
like I always say, honkeys are the original dindus. Literally going to protest for convicted criminals and wanting handouts.
>constitution is clear and easy to understand
why exactly do you need to be a lawyer specializing in it if you want to use it correctly?
did you forget to read
>grazing NOT on public property
>controlled burns NOT on public property
dindus dont actually improve the quality of anything either, unlike ranchers who actually turn wasteland into a wildlife habitat
please hang yourself off the highest rafter
Obama is a subversive communist educated by Bill Ayers and Frank Marshall Davis.
If the U.S. Army wasn't made of cucks he would have been deposed and shot.
Many court cases in the United States are reviewed after the case concludes by courts of appeals. For example, if a man believes he's been wrongly convicted, he can appeal it.
Appellate courts don't question whether or not a man is guilty or not (questions of fact), they question whether or not the procedure itself was correct (questions of law). For example, if the Judge was racist, or the jury not impartial, that can be reviewed by an appellate court.
In this case, a Judge sentenced people for a 3 month jail sentence despite the fact the law required a minimum 5 year prison sentence due to the severity of the crime. Consequently, an appellate court overruled the initial judge's decision, and increased the sentence.
>i support criminal activity
the post. and I'm guessing you missed
>we WANT to graze on govt land for free, but since we can't we'll set fire to government land
>we got convicted
>now lets protest for a dindu
Post yfw you get shot killing that fags cattle on state park even thogh the law is that you can hunt on state land. Because he believes its his.
What is his right to that lands resources? Can anyone just go to public lands and take everything.
I'm just here to watch retards get Waco'd.
The charge is not terrorism, the charge is arson on federal land.
>At no time have I ever called these two men terrorists. Never," Papagni, the federal prosecutor, said in court last October. "They committed arson."
The mandatory minimum sentencing was put in place for terrorism but the two were never changed with terrorism.
>Literally carrying a hundred American flags around, haven't fired a shit yet, and are standing up for freedom, something most fags in this country today don't even know about
I spotted the cuck.
It's a really simple concept, /pol/.
Waco lead to Oklahoma City and the feds lost their stomach for trying to do things the hard way with the militia movement. We saw this at the Bundy Ranch, we're seeing it again now. Obama knows what happens if his administration starts killing white gun owners.
These people are not like the blacks where you can kill a couple of leaders, ship in some coke, write a check to Jesse Jackson, and take the fight out of them for thirty years. If Ammon Bundy dies, federal agents will die and the GOP will launch impeachment proceedings.
>posting things that dont relate at all hoping i read as poorly as you do
>government also does controlled burns frequently
>stealing gov land
>grazing on their own land, using their own water source that the government tried blocking off illegally
>y-you guys ain't doin shit when rhey come take you're guns!
They are literally trying to claim that the federal land is theirs. Land set aside by Teddy Roosevelt. Going against the will of Teddy is the most treasonous thing I can think of.
Grazing fees kept being raised, specifically to make it too expensive for it to be grazing land so that turtles could be moved in and a Senator's son could get rich off alternative energy subsidies.
>think the only answer to a problem is the extreme opposite of it
Probably because you're used to being shoved off to the extreme north of north America where tell Americans didn't want to live, and spics kept to the south so all you know is extreme views in opposition.
I haven't done anything to warrant my house being occupied, Canada. They are standing up for the constitution, stay out of American affairs.
They served their time, the government is going back and trying to punish them again to make a statement. They are violating the constitution, their uprising is 100% justified.
If it's anything like Twitter, there is an army of fedbots here as well.
People need to look at what the ACTUAL MILITIA MEMBERS are saying.
It's not about the Hammonds exclusively. The Feds and rabid environmentalists have been fucking with the people there, using Fed terror law to push people off leases, be bastards.
Much better to defend the NLM terrorists.
We loot thread now
It may not be the best target but I support the patriots over the feds any day of the week.
All you loyalist shells should be embarrassed and ashamed that you would pick the federal government that's thousands of miles away, over your neighbors and friends.
>i'm completely wrong and uninformed about whats going on
do you really know whats going on? These rednecks have been racking up unpaid taxes. They want to stay tax free for their private business. They are finally being cracked down on, so they get salty and start fucking up government land. They got caught and convicted. Now they are saying they dindu nuffin and are protesting, when they gotten away with not paying taxes for all these years and they broken other laws. This forum is retarded.
>issue has nothing to do with niggas
>honkeys break laws and call it freedom
I see 2016 is shaping up to be a great years for niggas on /pol/. This is going to be easy all year.
You're under the impression that the law matters and that the people shouldn't have the right to challenge or disregard it, aren't you? You probably think jury nullification is bad, too...
>FUCK DA GUBBERMINT
>But I'm actually okay with government sometimes, I think
>I don't want anarchy, that's just silly
>But FUCK DA GUBBERMINT
The people don't even know what the fuck they want. This is their constant cries of "TYRANNY!" need to be ignored so business can continue as usual. Any slight discomfort is tyranny.
"The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State."
>a bunch of rednecks are out fucking around
>Burn 138 acres
>ADMIT TO IT
>go to jail
>other rednecks start chimping
>THEY WAS GOOD BOYS
>THEY DIN DO NUFFIN
>Chimp out and occupy a government building while armed
This is so free inhabitant shit crazy chimpout
They didn't violate the constitution. It's not double jeopardy, it's not even ex post facto because the law was in place when they were sentenced but the sentencing judge didn't agree with mandatory minimum sentencing but that's not how mandatory things work. They do have a case to appeal it since the resentencing was outside of a two week window.
Please educate yourself on the issue before you post next time.
There's so much wrong:
>The idea that taking down the (extremely decentrified) American power grid would be easy anywhere but Texas and that important areas won't have contingencies built exactly for this outcome is silly.
>American national identity is still super strong, and even the people sympathetic to the ideas this small subset of "militiamen" don't advocate armed revolution.
>Implying that civvies can even own better equipment than the military.
>Russia-phobia, despite the fact that modern Russia is dirt poor and can only project power near its own borders.
>Implies chaos would be "ever present", even though most of the country doesn't run this conservative. Also assumes emptying prisons will be some sort of TDKR scenario instead of just some dumbasses hundreds of miles away from their families with nothing to do.
You won't have any real honest-to-goodness Civil War in America without military backing. No other country in the world can afford to back American rebels, and Civie militias can't do shit but random terrorism and -maybe- a riot if their cause is strong enough.
>get convicted of something that isn't a crime and is common practice and beneficial to private and federal land
Heres the tortoise issue with the Bureau of Land Management: http://www[dawt]newsweek.com/cliven-bundy-stand-collision-between-ranchers-and-tortoises-252840
Heres the Reid/solar energy connection:
Funny how Harry Reid was so outspoken about the Bundy Ranch issue. Funny how the land his son wanted to build on has the same endangered tortoise the feds have been using to try to push ranchers of grazing land for years.
You can probably cool your jets, if it happens it'll take months. Basically this wilderness retreat thing needs to come to some sort of violent resolution with significant casualties, there's still plenty of opportunity to peacefully stand down. After that it all depends on what actions the other militia groups take and what kind of thoughts are floating around on the right wing blogosphere. The key components for a militia "victory" are support from mainstream right wing news (Breitbart, ideally Fox) and at least one major sitting official declaring support. Once one figure does it most of the red state governors will have to fall in line since allowing Obama to "win" this issue would basically screw them over in the long run whether or not they were involved. Their position is basically the same as that of the right wing in general, they might not like these guys or their particular vision, but allowing the left to win a hypothetical civil war would give them the pretext to basically re-write the constitution and laws in general as they see fit.
A jury of his peers passed a guilty verdict even after witness testimony wasn't used that said it was all intentional. And the time he was arrested was the third time he did it. And he was/still is turning himself in on Monday
The fact that the place is named "Burns" should give a hint.
It's fed muscle flexing and not isolated to the one family.
You dumbfucks know how powerful the libtarded environmentalists are here?
We have no fucking jobs anymore, because owls, and turtles, and trash fish.
Ranch was established in the 1870's, Roosevelt didn't come along until 1908. The government has no case, they bullied every other ranch into either selling or giving up their land and have been harassing Hammond ever since. They tried to buy the property, and were turned down. Ever since they have done nothing but try and find ways to forcefully take it from the Hammonds, they have even built a fence around an owned well on the property and had one of the Hammonds arrested for attempting to take it down. It was on his own fucking property.
Keep licking the government boot.
The majority of /pol/ can't be for breaking two similar laws, it's completely hypocritical.
>NLM protesters decide to occupy private property
>Trespassing on private property
>These dindu rednecks decide to occupy and destroy federal property
>Trespassing and destroying federal property
There's no difference, really.
The land was acquired in the 1870s, Roosevelt did not come into play until 1908. The government has no jurisdiction over private owned property, the cannot just forcefully take it away from people when they refuse to sell.
>going to be easy all year.
normal year of being coddled and catered to like the pet's they are. Gotcha
Niggers stealing toilet paper and burning stores during peaceful riots isnt against the law. The point is they did it the correct way. You nigs should take notes.
Waco won't happen again, despite what /pol/ would have you believe it's not because the feds fear a huge reprisal. The real reason is a Waco massacre puts whatever agency that did it in the crosshairs of half the political spectrum. Look at what happened to the ATF after the massacre, they got their funding cut substantially to the point where they have problems carrying out their mission, they go years without a leader because congress just refuses to appoint one, and they're on the shit list of every congressman south of the Mason-Dixon line. No agency wants to have that kind of thing happen to them, the BLM is already fucked the next time a Republican gets in the white house, they don't want to dig the hole deeper, and the FBI probably doesn't want to get on the shit list either.
they do the same shit over here.
they want to demolish the small farmer off the face off the lands.
only room for big agra.
only thing we have to fight over here is the ONTARIO LANDOWNERS ASSOCIATION which if any freedom loving canadian reads this i suggest they check them out.
Dumbshit. You are talking about an controlled burn case. Everyone burns there. It's fucking NAMED burns.
And the militia takeover is about a range of issues. A range of issues, homo
Ironically, the “legal” basis for starting a fight with the federal government is that sovereignty “really” belongs to Oregon rather than the Paiutes, who have seen their federal trust land shrink from over one and a half million acres to a tiny remnant of 760 acres in Burns, Oregon, where this current armed standoff began.
Check twitter out if you want to rage, boys. Fucking liberal cucks, how do they live with themselves with all that white guilt? Pussies.
You do know his lawyer was the one that requested the trial be moved right?
>the location was later changed to Pendleton after the attorney for the Hammonds argued they would receive a fairer trial there.
I'll denounce it when they start killing civilians and blowing themselves up as martyrs.
What batshit crazy world do these twats live in where this is comparable to, say, the Paris mudslime attacks.
Ditto. Literal fucking leaves shitposting straight from Trudeau's office while sucking Sikh shlong. At least aussies are far away on their prison island but the red cucknuck menace is real.
>nigger is mad because he actually believes #nlm
if the governments so infallible then why can't you believe government statistics showing how uppity niggers are
Also where are you getting this mentally unfit information from? The statements were unused because of the family feuding and the witnesses identity was with held from the public
So you're saying because the government won in court it means they are right? Gay marriage was forced through the Supreme Court as well, a group that is supposed to no matter what only follow the constitution in court rulings. Gay marriage technically violated the constitution, and it still went through. How progressive of you to say the government is always right.
Nah, never got it. I was too occupied with alcoholism at the time. I plan on getting it soon though.
Born and raised here m8, I live in one of the bastions of cultural identity in Canada, a small town that's 98% white.
>Tumblrinas start acting up on the national stage
>Obama himself calls them pussies and tells them to grow some balls.
>Militia reject retards start protesting about MUH RIGHTS and waving guns in the faces of federal agents.
>Republican politicians and Conservative media suck their dicks.
>Dems go into the election year backing centrist candidate that doesn't have any controversial platform positions and will probably walk into the white house despite being a tremendous piece of shit.
>None of the Republican Establishment candidates can find footing, and the frontrunners are all trying to outdo themselves with wacky unelectable platforms.
They tried to control idiots like this and it backfired stupendously. Now there's going to be armed idiot uprisings all year to drag down their chances even more.
Following the hashtag is an interesting pass time
What ive learned from /pol/ today
when niggers protest and destroy government property its because lol subhuman 80 iq
when whites protest and destroy government property its because lol muh oppressive federal gubment and muh Constitution
never change pol
>Federal attorneys, Frank Papagni, hunted down a witness that was not mentally capable to be a credible witness. Dusty Hammond (grandson and nephew) testified that Steven told him to start a fire. He was 13 at the time and 24 when he testified (11 years later). At 24 Dusty had been suffering with mental problems for many years. He had estranged his family including his mother. Judge Hogan noted that Dusty’s memories as a 13-year-old boy were not clear or credible. He allowed the prosecution to continually use Dusty’s testimony anyway. When speaking to the Hammonds about this testimony, they understood that Dusty was manipulated and expressed nothing but love for their troubled grandson.
>doesnt read the central content of the thread
Ah yes, using the bundy blogspot. A totally reliable source for unbiased information on this issue. Maybe you should post that screen cap talking about the issue with no sources too.
nice, i like this
>“Fires intentionally set on public lands endanger firefighters and the public,” stated United States Attorney Amanda Marshall. “The verdict sends an important message to those who think that they are above the law. We applaud the jury in Pendleton for doing the right thing based upon the evidence presented.”
>controlled burns dont exist
>the government doesnt do them
>ranchers dont do them
if you want to do something to make money at, for example a park. You would apply to use it and probably pay some fees and taxes on the money you make using that land. These ranches want to use that land for free and not pay the fees and taxes that come with using that land. Could you imagine if a rap concert used that land for free and people found out they rappers weren't paying taxes on something? People are just hung up because it's honkeys and muh guns. There is really no debate here. People are in this thread deflecting to niggas, and saying shit like "the law doesn't matter".
not from oregon myself but i really like the idea of removing ranchers who contribute to society and destroying their livelihood in favor of wildlife refuge which actually fairs WORSE when the ranchers are not present :^)
>its illegal because it's illegal
>not because it actually goes against any ordinances
>because the punishment was served, the act is now illegal
nice, i like this new philosophy, what's it called?