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>rednecks in Oregon
>"we declare war against the United States! I'll die a free man!"
>US Constitution, Article III
>"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them"

I really hope /pol/ realizes it's defending a pack of stupid treasonous dogs.

Sedition is a capital offense; the punishment for treason is death. They will be executed by the US government and rightfully so. Death to each and every traitor.
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The revolution they're trying to bring about is the opposite of treason.
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Traitors to what? Fags, feminists, niggers and Israel? These are the number one priorities of America so why should any white man remain loyal to it?
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>>59940167
Nice source you fucking aids ridden faggot
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>>59940167

Why shouldn't they declare their own state?

If they don't want to be in the USA why should they be forced to be?

I support them.
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this shit is trending on twitter
and the responses are fucking rage inducing
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>>59940167
Also, the government's stance on this is dangerously close to double jeopardy.
So fuck them and fuck you
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>>59940167

1. It's not treason

2. The rednecks will win

3. They smoke Marlboros, you smoke cock
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>>59940606
this will fizzle out pretty pathetically, guaranteed
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weak bait
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They're not rednecks. I know rednecks.

Those guys are criminal thugs.
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>free tibet
>free palestine
>every peoples has the right to self determination!
Shaking my damn head to be honest, family.
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>>59940167
I doubt the government is going to lynch a bunch of non hostile people who do not wish to engage in violence.
Inb4 they have guns hurrrr

It would be some mid 80s china-tier shit if they actually kill every one of those men.

The us executes traitors if they've actually caused tangible harm, like those jew snakes who got caught spying for the soviets.
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>>59940167
>americans accusing others of treason

Your country was founded by traitors, none of what's happening surprises me.
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You sound like some royalist bitch

Fuck the FEDs we will execute them!
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>>59940167
That's rich, coming from a nation of traitors founded by treason mate.
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>>59940679
When the fed runs away with their tail between their legs, again.
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When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
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>I want to uphold the constitution!
>Constitution plainly states that the Federal Government has a right to Federal lands

>this all started because people were grazing on Federal land and refused to pay for it
>then started fires during a notorious dry month, almost killing a handful of firefighters
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>>59940167

As someone who supported Ron Paul, I have no problem with the military killing these hicks.
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What a bunch of posers and idiots. Hope Obama drone strikes those traitors.
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#YallQaeda
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>>59940796
>traitors
Maybe to loyalist faggots. Look where the crown got all of you morons. Right into the cuckshed
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>>59940854
As long as these words exist in some form, somewhere, there is hope
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Question is how many other groups are going to do some shit now?
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>>59940167
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>All these government shills since this happened

its always these situations that show how many bots and interns spam this board

anyways

>armed

every pic or video I see doesn't show any guns at all, how many guns can you see in the OP pic? compare to sayy this pic for example?
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>>59940944
>>59940984
>>59941049
>>59941050
Too obvious
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>>59941199
If reddit isn't full of traitors and /pol/ is I guess I'll have to go.
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What are they trying to achieve, realistically speaking?
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http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/militia_continue_occupation_of.html
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>they will go to heaven
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>>59941223
BRITAIN YES
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>>59941324
this
if they don't have clear claims they aren't any better than liberals doing sittings in front of wall street
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>>59941324

They want to die in a hail of bullets.

Nothing will happen. They will get tired, go home, and be arrested at work without incident.
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>>59941223
oh lord.
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>>59941509
well said oldest ally
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>>59941324
Get the Fed to stop being cunts.

This is our final check and balance in the system of our government, it's literally why we have the 2nd Amendment.
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>>59941514
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>>59940548
>MUH RACISM
>MUH NATIONAL GUARD
>U CALLED THEM IN SO FAST AT WOUNDED KNEEEEE N FUGISONNNN
>WHITE PRIVILAGE BAKA
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>Group of colonists want freedom
>Freedom Fighters
>Group of rednecks want freedom
>TREASON
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>>59940679

That's what your Loyalist forefathers said when flew to Canada to escape the Colonials.
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>>59940167
I wonder how many of these typical /pol/shits will go and back these neo-confederate rednecks now that they kicked off their much anticipated "happening". Zero, that's how many. Because they're all a bunch of windbags with a giant yellow stripe on their backs.
"Come and take it"? "Don't tread on me"? Kek, how about you bend over and take Obamas BBC python from behind, fucking pussies
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>>59940167
Traitors aren't a bad thing, if the government itself is bad. The American government is too full of liberals, they care more about "helping" non-American citizens with American resources.
When the government starts putting Americans first, I'll start believing in it again.
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>>59941730

stop this. please fucking stop with this islamic "muh hipocrisy" rhetoric already.
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eat shit you dick smoking faggot OP.
reported, saged, thread hidden, called moot, called the cops, called the FBI, called Obama, called your mother.
Called aliens.
called Trump.

You're in trouble now nigga, whatchu gonna do?
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>>59941514

>arrested

No they won't. They'll go home to their beautiful wives and have more patriot babies.
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>>59941223

>That fucking ad.

There are few times that I've been as glad that we rebelled as this.
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>>59941573
Yeah after reading >>59941357 it seems like those guys are just trying to protect their lands? This won't end well at all
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>>59941822
Don't like ZOG
>muh muzzies
Don't like muzzies
>muh ZOG
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They're definitely traitors who haye their country.

No one who calls themselves a patriot can hate their government. The government represents the country. If you hate your government, then you hate your country.
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>"we declare war against the United States!
They literally never said this though
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>>59941908
Says the self-loathing fucking LEAF
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Attacking them in some way is exactly what Bundy and crew want.
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>>59940167
For every American patriot there seems to be 20 of you cunts, the odds aren't in your favor. You really should surrender now you gutless wonder.
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>>59941908
No our government represents the constitution and the people. When the government is not doing a good job at those things, militias happen that threaten the government.
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>>59941908

One of the founding principles of the country was that should a government become overly tyrannical, that the people of that nation have the God-given natural right to overthrow that government and establish a new one. It's in the Declaration of Independence for fuck's sake. It's even been famously said that one of the most patriotic things you can do as an American citizen is not support the government, fuck off leaf.
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>>59940783
RARE
A
R
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>>59941978
>>59942124
If you hate your government so much, then why do you fucking have one? Disband it entirely and live in a lawless, anarchistic wasteland if the idea of an organized government is literally worse than hell to you.
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>>59940167
>I really hope /pol/ realizes it's defending a pack of stupid treasonous dogs.

And what the left is doing you would call what?
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>>59940944
>then started fires during a notorious dry month, almost killing a handful of firefighters
>then went to jail
>then got out
>now is in double jeaopardy
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>>59940167
You are the treasonous dog here.
Why don't you bend down and suck some government cock more?
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>>59940167

The word "treason" has no moral significance. It is your duty to commit treason against a tyrannical government.
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>>59942277
>I only think in absolutes
Oh boy, I remember the eight grade.
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>>59941908
>“The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.”
― James Madison

why do you hate freedom but love tyranny?

your parents vote for pierre and you voted for justin..
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>>59940167
If some merrilard payed a plane ticket for me, and gave me a gun to join these guys, I would do so in a heartbeat. I am not even kidding.
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>>59942124

>It's even been famously said

People who base their ideals on a random out of context quote by one man should really just be culled. You're a negative influence on our society's brainpower. You bring down the national average. Thanks a lot.
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>>59940167
They won't be executed because it's not politically correct. Don't you see the irony here? It's gorgeous.
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>>59941223
> quintessentialy British
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>>59940273
Yes Britbro
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>>59941787
were you not here for bundy? or did teagan's strap-on fuck the memory out of you
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>>59940167
It's only treason if the government has obeyed the laws of the Constitution in the first place. What you're basically saying is if the Government can wipe its ass with our Constitution, then no one can do anything about it. Which defeats the purpose of the damn thing.
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>>59942441
>random out of context quote by one man
>the basis of americas recognition of natural born rights
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Obama in his office when he hears the the news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC9AjN5l4Gs
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>>59942389
>I'm totally okay with a government, just as long as it has virtually no power to actually do anything, like say, run a country
>The second that big bad government tries to lay down authority and do something I don't like, I'll yell TYRANNY
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>>59942277
You really showed him
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>>59942277

The nation wasn't founded upon purely anarchic principles. The founding fathers understood that a state needed some form of limited government to uphold the law, collect and distribute taxes, and provide defense from foreign influence. They also understood that given sufficient time, most governments ultimately become overly tyrannical, and that this tyranny has an adverse effect on a nation's prosperity. They designed a series of checks and balances to prevent the government from reaching this point swiftly, and as mentioned before made a point that a government that has become too tyrannical stands in direct opposition to the natural rights of a citizen, and that therefore they have the right to overthrow and replace it.

Not overthrow and dissolve it. Overthrow and REPLACE it. The idea being that a new, less tyrannical government could be set up, and that this process could repeat should things become bad enough again.

These are very basic and fundamental principles of the United States as an entity.
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>>59940944
I could just imagine those rednecks 'ahoopin-n-ahollarin' as they run around setting fire to a national park..

And as in all cases with similar belligerents, /pol/tards will defend it somehow
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The jewish plan is working perfectly. White males are being isolated and demonized. Race-mixing will skyrocket in the next decade.
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>>59942607
I know I did.
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>>59942594
>punish man
>try to punish him for the same crime again
Unconstitutional. The government itself is committing treason, any American who does not see a problem with this is a fool to say the least.
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>>59942367

Fortunately, the US government is not remotely tyrannical.
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>>59942655
didnt they start burning it to get rid of some juniper plant
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>>59940167

What a bunch of fucking idiots.

At least wait until the election to see if HRH Trump gets coronated.
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>>59942607

that wasnt a strawman

it was an appeal to accomplishment and false dilemma

but not strawman
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>>59942435
This implies you're willing to lay down your life.
So having to lay down your life savings shouldn't stop you.
You just admitted that your life savings aren't enough for a plane ticket to the US, a month's rent in a shithole apartment (to have proof of residency) and a nugget.
So your life is literally worth less than $2k
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>>59941908
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>>59941223
No matter how cucked I think we are in the US, europe will always top us.
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>>59940167
In the government is where you will find the traitors
In this picture stands only heros and patriots
Glory to these men, may the government back down and run away yet again like the cowardly wannabe tyrants they are
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>>59940167
If they were smart, they'd hire some blacks to support their cause.
Would make them invulnerable.
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>>59941908
We are the government, ass wipe. We elect representatives on our behalf since we all can't be sitting around making laws all day long.

Soon as shit goes south with that setup, that's where some 2nd Amendment house cleaning comes in.
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>>59940794
>like those jew snakes who got caught spying for the soviets.
Speaking of which Pollard was released from jail
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>>59940606
>They smoke Marlboros, you smoke cock
Keked hard, nice one.
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>>59940167
But Twitter said it was only 6-12 people
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>>59942725
Funny joke
The first revolution was fought against a much less tyrannical government anon.
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OP here.

This was a honeypot thread and each of you posting in it are now being investigated by the FBI.

Enjoy your time in those FEMA coffins, fucking white warriors. Lel, you cucks are so stupid. (Btw, every woman in your family will be forced to breed with a black man)
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They're basically scumbag poachers who became arsonists to cover up evidence and now have become terrorists when that wouldn't work. They should be executed as traitors to set an example. This shit has only escalated due to federal leniency.
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>>59943131
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>>59940167
Our govt is treasonous, these boys are dumb but they are Heroes
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>>59940167

What's up with all of the bootlickers
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>>59943102

Better read your history again; the federal government can't do a fraction of what the British government did in the Colonies.
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>>59943131
Lol the government will do nothing
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>>59941908
That thing that Mark Twain said
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>>59942725
>Gibs money
>Don't walk there
>Buy this and go to jail
>Buy this or go to jail
>Pay for others or pay the price

Nah, faggot.

Positive liberty IS tyranny, anon.
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>>59941908
Fucking retard we will wait and see how much you like dude weed lmao man by the time he's finished reaming your maple leaf countries ass
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>>59942898
Yea, I am poor. So what.
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>>59941908
when are we annexing Canada?
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>>59943661
2077
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>>59940167
unironically parading meme-snek flags

Only in America!
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>>59941908
Canuck naziboo detected.
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>>59941858
It's obviously not real
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>>59942991
Not in the US you disgusting German.
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>>59940167
>the punishment for treason is death.

Oregon is a liberal mecca. Who the fuck is going to carry out the execution?
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WOUNDED REEEEEEEEEEE
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God bless the BLM for keeping our public lands open for public use.

Fuck greedy land grabbing ranchers.
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holy shit i thought militias in the us were a meme. This is why america will never fall to islam. Damn how can europe compete?
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>>59944262

Don't get cocky world, real Americans are still out there and one day we will wake up from our drunken stupor and realize we have a transsexual miss-America and when that day comes we will grab our guns and take one last swill of beer and kill and KILL AND KILL until this country is great again.
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>>59943803
>memesnek
>dumb euros at it again
top fucking keke
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>>59940944
Remember kids, the Taylor Grazing Act of 1934 doesn't real if you're a true patriot.
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>>59941573
You mean getting the Fed to stop enforcing federal law?
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>>59940167
FUCKKKKKKK YEAH!
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All these government shills in full force damage control. CIVIL WAR SOON KEKFACE

CIVIL WAR SOON
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Better luck this time, eh?
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>>59943803
>meme-snek flags
I shouldn't expect you people to understand
http://www.usflag.org/history/gadsden.html
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>>59943067
This.
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How do we fix America?
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>>59944648
Interesting that at about the same time, cannabis prohibition was enacted.
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>>59940167
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>>59940167
>calling them traitors
>Obama
Okay burger, keep your cool. We all know you guys aint to smart, but I always figured you'd be smart enough to see your own demise.
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>>59945030

>Oregon

>in the south

how retarded are you exactly?
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>>59945030
>>59945941
Oregon was a member of the confederacy. Prove me wrong faggots.
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Basically these guys want to continue to graze their cows on federal land. The Bureau of Land Management and some other agencies are worried about overgrazing and are trying to limit grazing in areas to prevent problems with the ecosystem, since overgrazing can cause erosion, desertification and promote weeds.
The ranchers don't have the foresight to see that the BLM is acting in the interest of sustainability, and are acting like a bunch of children.
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>>59940167
>treason

fucking faggot cuck, this isnt the usa anymore
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>>59941895
they're trying to prevent people from having to face punishment for the same crime they've already served time for, aka double jeopardy.
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>>59946476
>> implying the ranchers have no fore sight in 2016
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>>59946476
>the government is acting in the best interests of the people
wew lad
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>>59941514
Nah, that's what would happen if a Republican administration was in the White House. Under Obama you've got an incompetent open racist as Attorney General who's going to throw a massive bitch fit every day that there's not a siege going on there. They've openly defied the feds, simply arresting them at work later is still a defeat because then the precedent is set that the government is afraid to confront citizen groupings of as little as a hundred. The response from the feds NEEDS to be big and flashy, unfortunately I believe that is exactly what Bundy intends.

I don't believe this was a spur of the moment decision, from all accounts Bundy's group of around 150 left the protest at the same time without telling anyone where they were gong. Pete Santilli notably was pissed that nobody told him about it, but there's suspicions that he's an informant so it kind of makes sense. These are not the militia members of the 90's, these aren't chubby mechanics who like to dress like soldiers on weekends. A good chunk of these guys are actual veterans and these militia networks are a hell of a lot more connected than they were back in the days of Waco. I'm worried some real heavy shit is about to come down the pipe.
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>>59946476
they probably think BLM is Black Lives Matter
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>>59946845
Some agencies do. BLM, USDA, EPA, Forest Service; I think they try to do the right thing but they haven't always known what the right thing is. It's also very difficult to keep everyone happy: environmentalists and ranchers/ farmers want completely different things.
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>>59940854
Pic related
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How can you retards not realize this is bait?

These SJW liberal pigs dont even try anymore & they still up at the top of /pol.

Your handing the site over to Tumblr.
Good job.
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what city is that? bend?
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>>59947238
These agencies don't give a shit what anyone wants. They're told what to do by the higher ups and do it blindly.
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>>59942931
wtf is even the point of this
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>>59940167

>war
>revolt

pick one

opposing a govt that no longer represents its people and tries to snatch its guns is not fit to lead

you deserve a smack in the mouth...defending your rights from a tyranical and opressive govt is one of the founding princibles of the bill of rights you stupid bellend

tfw a bong has to tell you this

SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME
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These racists need to be put down. The government protects s and rebels should be dealt with. No idea why they don't just drone strike them and shoot whoever treis to crawl out.
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>>59945030
>Yankee Education
Don't forget to go door to door to apologize for being white ;)
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>>59941324
Being the first instance of a domestic drone strike.
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>>59940167

Maybe Putin will send them weapons and humanitarian aid in order to rebel against their state since the US has made that acceptable behavior now in Syria.
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>>59940167

They're mostly morons, which is why they forgot to get a press spokesperson and some proper organization, even a fucking twitter account.
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>>59946875
Do you think these vets will go all sunni against the feds?

Since alot of them played in the sandbox and all, i am sure they picked up a trick or two
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>>59941908
TWO WALS
W
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W
A
L
L
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>>59940167
OP sounds like a salon.Com reader.
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>/pol/ supporting a bunch of armed thugs wanting government handouts

I love this place.
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>>59940167
>want to keep your land that your family settled and developed over a century ago

fucking disgusting, hang the bastards
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>>59948258
>wanting government handouts
you know nothing pleb. lurk more.
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>>59943140
None of what you said is true
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There is no difference between these people and black loves matter. Oh wait,yes there is BLM are law abiding and not in direct rebellion against our elected officials.
White people are scrum
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>>59947996
Well according to the FBI there's around 30,000 militia members in the U.S. and I'm guessing if even half of them go full insurgent you're going to see a groundswell of support. The conservative half of the country doesn't listen to the media anymore, not even Fox News. Simply running a 24/7 media loop about how these guys are literally Hitler won't work anymore, they've been trying with Trump for months for example. At this point the situation is still salvageable if the Feds can get things under control within a few months, but if even one red state governor, even on national guard commander or god forbid Army General declares open support then it's happening.
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>>59948629
>law abiding
>flood private ranches with an illegally seized water source

:^)
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>>59948445
>i want to use government land for free

what am i missing?
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>>59940167
>death to traitors

Why haven't you ended yourself then you liberal Burgois faggot.
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Bah, these ass-monkeys *want* the ebil Feds to shoot at them so that they can get thier martyr-boner on. Don't give it to them.

Shut off the godsdamn power and water and just wait for them to shoot each other.
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>>59948766
Nope, all land is the Fed's, we live inside America.
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One of the TV networks needs to give this guy a reality show so he fucks off and sells "Don't Tread on Me" flags.
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>>59948800
you are missing grazing rights

>>59948909
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>>59940167
>defending the concept of sedition

Hooo boy. Want to know how I know you're a faggot?
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>>59943803
>muh meme snek
>he thinks 4chins is real life

Wow, get a load of this faggot.
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>>59948892
they are going to die anyways because that is literally their livelihood being taken from them. tell me why they shouldnt
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>>59948981
>grazing rights

just follow the law, pretty simple
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>>59941833
why is yours blue?
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>>59948892
Are you mad liberal cuz they not fighting for your stupid equality?

Fuck liberals. Liberals must be purged.
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>>59941212
>anyone who disagrees with my fringe reactionary beliefs is a SHILL JEWS REEEEEEE

This is what you sound like and why your movement has no legitimacy.
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>>59940167
Holding a placard isn't treason, you fucking fag.
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"Treason" against the Obama regime is loyalty to America.

Prove me wrong (oh wait, you can't)
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>>59941212
I love that everyone on /pol/ is aware and they still try
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>>59940167
>unironically being a communist
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>>59942931
Is this a machine gun by law? More than one bullet per trigger pull?
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>>59943661
Once Trump wins the election

Can't happen soon enough tbqh
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>>59949133
>literally moving people off their land

oh but theyre white so its ok :^)

>>59949057
forgive me i misread, they actually were grazing entirely on their own private property
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>>59943196
M A R T Y R S
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YFW Obama just drops a few bombs to bring them back to reality
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>>59941908
>No one who calls themselves a patriot can hate their government.
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>>59949057
But you keep changing the law to make what my families way of life and livelyhood are into criminals.
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So do we actually support these guys or are we adapting the "death to each and every traitor" philosophy?
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>>59940167
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>>59949246
Volley gun, senpai-a-lam
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>>59949057
What is double jeopardy
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>>59949111
No, I just don't like people being martyred for dumb reasons. This bickering over grazing is no real cause.
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>>59948800
>being put in jail twice for the same crime
>doesn't realize this is actually a violation of law
>the federal government is breaking its own law
>"HURR Y PPL MAD?!"
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>>59940167
>muh treason
Right, by this logic George Washington is a traitor that should have been executed by the UK.

You can't just have undying loyalty to the state for the sake of it being the state, mate.
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>>59940167
It's treason then
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>>59940167
does USA have the right to resistance?
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>>59949312
That's actually the perfect troll pic.
Someone post this on Twitter and see how many liberals they get to agree with them.
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>>59940167
yes, behead them! This would be so progressive
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>>59940167
Because Obama is so big on the constitution right?
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>>59949406
He would have been executed by the UK if they had caught him.
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>>59949385
He was put in jail again because an appellate court overruled the Judge's initial leniency.

Committing a class A felony (arson) to cover up 4 class D felonies (illegal hunting) carries a mandatory minimum for 5 years, not 3 months.
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>>59949133
Don't you guys have ISIS to fight or some shit why are you getting paid to post here. What a mismanagement of resources. Embarassing.
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>>59949499
Probably, doesn't mean the world isn't a better place for him winning though.
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>>59949469
Obama is a constitutional lawyer.
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>>59949437
Ya, it's called the 2nd Amendment.

Libtards like to play this game of
>DAT CAN NEBBA HAPPEN HEREEEE
or
>LOL THESE LOONIES AND THEIR GUNS, CLAIMING THE GOVERNMENT IS A TYRANNY

But the Founding Fathers explicitly stated the purpose of the 2nd is for resistance against the government, if it oversteps its bounds. So faggots like Tears Morgan are absolutely wrong. People who pretend tyranny can never come to the USA are, in fact, inviting it. And by all rights, it's probably already here.
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"A good American doesn't need to believe in his government. A good American believes in his country.
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>>59949518
>appellate
what does that mean?
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WTF?
12 hours later and #oregonunderattack is still trending?
It seems that totally legit, organic, grass roots has tag it making this a race issue.
My country is so fucked right now.
God speed you high desert kooks.
Got family high up in OSP, may be able to get some insider dirt later
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>>59949590
Which he uses to circumvent the constitution
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>>59943803
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>>59948727
*furiously begins loading magazines*
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>>59949263
>we want to graze on govt land for free, but since we can't we are going to start fires on government lands. We got caught setting fires and convicted, now lets storm a government building with guns to support our boys because they DINDU NUFFIN

like I always say, honkeys are the original dindus. Literally going to protest for convicted criminals and wanting handouts.
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>>59949518
And where's your proof of arson to cover up poaching?

By the way, the charge is terrorism, not arson.
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>>59949590
Kek, man you believe everything you hear don't you
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>>59940796

I don't even get mad when Aussies shitpost. I just appreciate that they do it well.
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>>59949544
We'll never know, fellow redcoat.
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>>59949300
like yall tell niggas
>you voted for this. Follow the process. Don't break the law. Don't protest. Stop destroying property.

I love that all are defending redneck criminals.
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>>59949681
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>>59949590
>constitution is clear and easy to understand

why exactly do you need to be a lawyer specializing in it if you want to use it correctly?

>>59949690
did you forget to read
>grazing NOT on public property
>controlled burns NOT on public property

dindus dont actually improve the quality of anything either, unlike ranchers who actually turn wasteland into a wildlife habitat

please hang yourself off the highest rafter
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>>59940167
I hold more allegiance to Albany than to Washington at this point, and I'm sure most /pol/acks feel the same about their states
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Fucking hicks ruining everything since 1861.
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>>59949639
Another way of saying "appeals court"
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>>59949590
Obama is a subversive communist educated by Bill Ayers and Frank Marshall Davis.

If the U.S. Army wasn't made of cucks he would have been deposed and shot.
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>>59949639
Many court cases in the United States are reviewed after the case concludes by courts of appeals. For example, if a man believes he's been wrongly convicted, he can appeal it.

Appellate courts don't question whether or not a man is guilty or not (questions of fact), they question whether or not the procedure itself was correct (questions of law). For example, if the Judge was racist, or the jury not impartial, that can be reviewed by an appellate court.

In this case, a Judge sentenced people for a 3 month jail sentence despite the fact the law required a minimum 5 year prison sentence due to the severity of the crime. Consequently, an appellate court overruled the initial judge's decision, and increased the sentence.
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>>59949852
Bitch, hicks feed you. But they don't have to. Remember that.
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>>59949808
>i support criminal activity
the post. and I'm guessing you missed
>we WANT to graze on govt land for free, but since we can't we'll set fire to government land
>we got convicted
>now lets protest for a dindu
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New Thread

>>59948382
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Post yfw you get shot killing that fags cattle on state park even thogh the law is that you can hunt on state land. Because he believes its his.

What is his right to that lands resources? Can anyone just go to public lands and take everything.
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>>59940167
Yes, these traitors of Israel must be punished severely and made an example of the keep the rest of the goyim at bay. Giving gun rights was a mistake, oy vey!
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I'm just here to watch retards get Waco'd.

>>59949806
>that post
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>>59950039
why make a new thread when this isn't at the bump limit?
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>>59950023
>reading things that weren't written
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>>59949737
The charge is not terrorism, the charge is arson on federal land.
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/12/ranchers_fight_with_feds_spark.html
>At no time have I ever called these two men terrorists. Never," Papagni, the federal prosecutor, said in court last October. "They committed arson."
The mandatory minimum sentencing was put in place for terrorism but the two were never changed with terrorism.
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>>59949590
>guaranteed replies
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Why do they even allow this on federal land? Why can't they just sell the land to farmers or just conserve the land? (protected environment)
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>>59950023
The government was never supposed to own any land.
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>>59949851
I could care less about Jew York. The liberal echochamber of NYC ruined it for everybody
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>>59942328
Lol, double jeopardy. How old are you ? They are in trouble for more than one thing. Not to mention all the taxes they accrued using federal land.
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>>59949737
Well, there was enough proof for a grand jury to find him guilty of it. Doesn't the US claim to have the best legal system in the world?
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>>59950050

What's wrong about it?
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>Nationalistic group stands for their country
>pol shits on them.

Man, this place sure has changed
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>>59940796
The majority of America is populated by cowards and degenerates. Their bleeding hearts run red like British coats and communist banners.
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#treasonousLivesMatter
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>>59950071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xabymLUgI44
'
you right now
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>Traitors
>Literally carrying a hundred American flags around, haven't fired a shit yet, and are standing up for freedom, something most fags in this country today don't even know about
I spotted the cuck.
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>The second amendment is only for militias you dumb republicans
>w-w-w-wait why are you forming a militia that's not allowed
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>>59947327
I didn't know Canadians didn't teach their children to read! What if he wrote it out into French, would you be able to read it then?
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>>59950269
>French.

Maybe Arabic
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It's a really simple concept, /pol/.

DEATH.
TO.
EACH.
AND.
EVERY.
TRAITOR.
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>>59950217
How would you like it if a hundred so-called patriots decided to occupy your house in the name of freedumbs?
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>>59941212
Where is his right to graze on land that is not his? In doing so he is subsidizing his business with tax dollars.

I thought this was shit you guys hated.
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>>59950217
So if I carry and American flag I can kill anyone I like and break any laws as long as I shout "Freeeeeedoooooom?"

Faggot is a faggot. You're an anarchist, not a patriot.
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>>59950175
As if the surge of Bernie threads during US night time wasn't a dead giveaway.
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>>59950108
Because federal land is the new gold standard
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>>59950050
Waco lead to Oklahoma City and the feds lost their stomach for trying to do things the hard way with the militia movement. We saw this at the Bundy Ranch, we're seeing it again now. Obama knows what happens if his administration starts killing white gun owners.

These people are not like the blacks where you can kill a couple of leaders, ship in some coke, write a check to Jesse Jackson, and take the fight out of them for thirty years. If Ammon Bundy dies, federal agents will die and the GOP will launch impeachment proceedings.
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>>59950322
Yeah, if anything /pol/ should be pissed off about this. Other citizens are paying tax dollars so he can continue herd grazing, illegally, on the land he calls his.
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>>59950210
>posting things that dont relate at all hoping i read as poorly as you do

>arsonists
>government also does controlled burns frequently
>stealing gov land
>grazing on their own land, using their own water source that the government tried blocking off illegally
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>>59950139
Once you get north of rockland county NY becomes pretty rural save a few larger cities
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>>59940167
>y-you guys ain't doin shit when rhey come take you're guns!
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>>59950217
They are literally trying to claim that the federal land is theirs. Land set aside by Teddy Roosevelt. Going against the will of Teddy is the most treasonous thing I can think of.
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>>59950405
where does it say he grazed on public land

>public land
>being productive in any way
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>>59950405
Grazing fees kept being raised, specifically to make it too expensive for it to be grazing land so that turtles could be moved in and a Senator's son could get rich off alternative energy subsidies.
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>>59942277
>be canadian
>think the only answer to a problem is the extreme opposite of it

Probably because you're used to being shoved off to the extreme north of north America where tell Americans didn't want to live, and spics kept to the south so all you know is extreme views in opposition.
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>>59950317
I haven't done anything to warrant my house being occupied, Canada. They are standing up for the constitution, stay out of American affairs.

>>59950335
They served their time, the government is going back and trying to punish them again to make a statement. They are violating the constitution, their uprising is 100% justified.
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>>59950175
If it's anything like Twitter, there is an army of fedbots here as well.
People need to look at what the ACTUAL MILITIA MEMBERS are saying.
It's not about the Hammonds exclusively. The Feds and rabid environmentalists have been fucking with the people there, using Fed terror law to push people off leases, be bastards.

http://www.thefencepost.com/news/18847695-113/two-members-of-oregons-hammond-family-to-serve
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>>59950139
Likewise, I couldn't care any less about whichever square-shaped shithole you crawled out of
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>>59940167
Much better to defend the NLM terrorists.

We loot thread now
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>>59950415
If anything the upstate has the politics of Kentucky
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>>59942277
BOOT-LICKER
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>>59941223
When did this happen? How did I not hear about this???
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>>59942931
>implying those bullets will even fly straight and not veer off in every which way
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>>59949057
After the Feds start following the constitution
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>>59940167
It may not be the best target but I support the patriots over the feds any day of the week.

All you loyalist shells should be embarrassed and ashamed that you would pick the federal government that's thousands of miles away, over your neighbors and friends.
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>>59950512
>Defending the constitution by committing treasonous acts.
Good job guys.
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>>59950407
>i'm completely wrong and uninformed about whats going on

do you really know whats going on? These rednecks have been racking up unpaid taxes. They want to stay tax free for their private business. They are finally being cracked down on, so they get salty and start fucking up government land. They got caught and convicted. Now they are saying they dindu nuffin and are protesting, when they gotten away with not paying taxes for all these years and they broken other laws. This forum is retarded.
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>>59950485
Lol, sauce on this statement that isnt alex jones tier?

These fags are going to ruin guns for everyone i just know it.
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maximum fucking sliding all over the board

good lord it's actually happening
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>>59940167
Do these goys really believe they are the 21st century Shay's Rebellion?
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>>59940167
arbitrary context post
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>>59950710
source
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>>59950265
Hey, good way of putting it...
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>>59940167
SKYRIM IS FOR THE NORDS
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>>59950679
None of them are from Burns,they are all from out of state. Bundys boys tried to get locals to join and they said no
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>>59950691
>Government violates constitution to make a statements
>Militia is formed to stop them
>"Oy vey, traitors!"
Nice try, Shlomo.
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>>59950578
>issue has nothing to do with niggas
>honkeys break laws and call it freedom
>deflect

I see 2016 is shaping up to be a great years for niggas on /pol/. This is going to be easy all year.
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>>59950710
You're under the impression that the law matters and that the people shouldn't have the right to challenge or disregard it, aren't you? You probably think jury nullification is bad, too...
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>>59950501
>>59950583
>FUCK DA GUBBERMINT
>But I'm actually okay with government sometimes, I think
>I don't want anarchy, that's just silly
>But FUCK DA GUBBERMINT

The people don't even know what the fuck they want. This is their constant cries of "TYRANNY!" need to be ignored so business can continue as usual. Any slight discomfort is tyranny.
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>>59950512
"The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State."
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>>59942931
I believe this one was used at the Mexican border by militias. Basically pray and spray..
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>>59950165
We do have the best legal system, it's still shit and getting worse
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>>59950852
>niggas

hello reddit
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>a bunch of rednecks are out fucking around
>Burn 138 acres
>ADMIT TO IT
>go to jail
>other rednecks start chimping
>THEY WAS GOOD BOYS
>THEY DIN DO NUFFIN
>Chimp out and occupy a government building while armed

??????

This is so free inhabitant shit crazy chimpout
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>>59950940
>>59950940
>>59943278
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>>59950471
>le teddy was Ebin meme
Mediocre at best
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>>59950940
>The fire went onto public land and burned 127 acres of grass
>138

am i supposed to be laughing
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>>59950940
>do crime
>do time
>get out
>gubment wants to throw you away again
??????
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>>59950857
>You're under the impression that the law matters
like I said. This is going to be an easy year for niggas on pol. This honkey literally just said the law doesn't matter.
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>>59950822
They didn't violate the constitution. It's not double jeopardy, it's not even ex post facto because the law was in place when they were sentenced but the sentencing judge didn't agree with mandatory minimum sentencing but that's not how mandatory things work. They do have a case to appeal it since the resentencing was outside of a two week window.
Please educate yourself on the issue before you post next time.
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>>59950166
There's so much wrong:

>The idea that taking down the (extremely decentrified) American power grid would be easy anywhere but Texas and that important areas won't have contingencies built exactly for this outcome is silly.

>American national identity is still super strong, and even the people sympathetic to the ideas this small subset of "militiamen" don't advocate armed revolution.

>Implying that civvies can even own better equipment than the military.

>Russia-phobia, despite the fact that modern Russia is dirt poor and can only project power near its own borders.

>Implies chaos would be "ever present", even though most of the country doesn't run this conservative. Also assumes emptying prisons will be some sort of TDKR scenario instead of just some dumbasses hundreds of miles away from their families with nothing to do.

You won't have any real honest-to-goodness Civil War in America without military backing. No other country in the world can afford to back American rebels, and Civie militias can't do shit but random terrorism and -maybe- a riot if their cause is strong enough.
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>>59941908
Jesus Christ, someone ban all Canucks of this board.
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>>59950164
>you should go to prison for unpaid taxes

JUST KEK MY SHIT UP
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>>59951050
Sorry, i was off by 11. Meh.

>>59951070
>do crime
>get 5 years minimum
>don't do it
>go back to jail
>other rednecks chimp out
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>>59951153
>get convicted of something that isn't a crime and is common practice and beneficial to private and federal land
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>>59950739
ITS NO secret that energy subsidies are intended to kill family farms and make all farms corporate
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>>59951153
He wuz a good boy he wuz protecting tha constitutionz and shiiiit
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>>59950739
Heres the tortoise issue with the Bureau of Land Management: http://www[dawt]newsweek.com/cliven-bundy-stand-collision-between-ranchers-and-tortoises-252840

Heres the Reid/solar energy connection:
http://www[dawt]reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-reid-solar-idUSBRE87U06D20120831

Funny how Harry Reid was so outspoken about the Bundy Ranch issue. Funny how the land his son wanted to build on has the same endangered tortoise the feds have been using to try to push ranchers of grazing land for years.
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>>59951253
>canada
why are you here?
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>>59951227
But it was a crime
They broke the law
they admitted they broke the law

It doesn't get more cut and dry than this you stupid faggot
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>>59951263
HE DINDU NUFFIN
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>>59951095
It doesn't and it shouldn't. The difference here is that the militias are willing to have skin in the game.
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>>59940606
>They smoke Marlboros, you smoke cock

Lovely
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>>59949681
You can probably cool your jets, if it happens it'll take months. Basically this wilderness retreat thing needs to come to some sort of violent resolution with significant casualties, there's still plenty of opportunity to peacefully stand down. After that it all depends on what actions the other militia groups take and what kind of thoughts are floating around on the right wing blogosphere. The key components for a militia "victory" are support from mainstream right wing news (Breitbart, ideally Fox) and at least one major sitting official declaring support. Once one figure does it most of the red state governors will have to fall in line since allowing Obama to "win" this issue would basically screw them over in the long run whether or not they were involved. Their position is basically the same as that of the right wing in general, they might not like these guys or their particular vision, but allowing the left to win a hypothetical civil war would give them the pretext to basically re-write the constitution and laws in general as they see fit.
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>>59951293
>wasnt a crime
>still asserting it was a crime

>government agency just makes shit up that is clearly just made up
>but its ok because its the government
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>>59951227
how does one get convicted of something that isn't a crime?
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>>59951227
A jury of his peers passed a guilty verdict even after witness testimony wasn't used that said it was all intentional. And the time he was arrested was the third time he did it. And he was/still is turning himself in on Monday
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>>59951388
when an alphabet agency really really wants your property :^)
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>>59951338
>It doesn't and it shouldn't.
again.
>the law doesn't matter
holy shit. Honkeys literally think laws don't apply to them.
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You retards
The fact that the place is named "Burns" should give a hint.
It's fed muscle flexing and not isolated to the one family.
You dumbfucks know how powerful the libtarded environmentalists are here?
We have no fucking jobs anymore, because owls, and turtles, and trash fish.
Bootlicking faggots
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>>59950405

the great boot licker has awoken from his slumber.

if i didnt tell you enough last night.

FUCK OFF BACK TO REDDIT PINKO SCUM.
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>>59951112
Ranch was established in the 1870's, Roosevelt didn't come along until 1908. The government has no case, they bullied every other ranch into either selling or giving up their land and have been harassing Hammond ever since. They tried to buy the property, and were turned down. Ever since they have done nothing but try and find ways to forcefully take it from the Hammonds, they have even built a fence around an owned well on the property and had one of the Hammonds arrested for attempting to take it down. It was on his own fucking property.

Keep licking the government boot.
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>>59951227
The majority of /pol/ can't be for breaking two similar laws, it's completely hypocritical.

>NLM protesters decide to occupy private property
>Trespassing on private property

>These dindu rednecks decide to occupy and destroy federal property
>Trespassing and destroying federal property

There's no difference, really.
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>>59951281
why are you here faggot? im american you fucking cuck
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>>59950898
The land was acquired in the 1870s, Roosevelt did not come into play until 1908. The government has no jurisdiction over private owned property, the cannot just forcefully take it away from people when they refuse to sell.
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>>59950852
>going to be easy all year.
normal year of being coddled and catered to like the pet's they are. Gotcha

Niggers stealing toilet paper and burning stores during peaceful riots isnt against the law. The point is they did it the correct way. You nigs should take notes.
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>>59950405
>Ontario
I bet you voted for DUDE WEED LMAO.
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>>59950050
Waco won't happen again, despite what /pol/ would have you believe it's not because the feds fear a huge reprisal. The real reason is a Waco massacre puts whatever agency that did it in the crosshairs of half the political spectrum. Look at what happened to the ATF after the massacre, they got their funding cut substantially to the point where they have problems carrying out their mission, they go years without a leader because congress just refuses to appoint one, and they're on the shit list of every congressman south of the Mason-Dixon line. No agency wants to have that kind of thing happen to them, the BLM is already fucked the next time a Republican gets in the white house, they don't want to dig the hole deeper, and the FBI probably doesn't want to get on the shit list either.
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>>59951519

they do the same shit over here.

they want to demolish the small farmer off the face off the lands.

only room for big agra.

only thing we have to fight over here is the ONTARIO LANDOWNERS ASSOCIATION which if any freedom loving canadian reads this i suggest they check them out.
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>>59951519
The government does have a case. In fact the made that case when he was convicted by a jury of his peers.
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>>59951415
>import jury from over 100 miles away
>use mentally unfit witness
>jury not informed of sentence

yes this is all normal and just, this is how the process functions, i like it :^)
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>>59951293
Dumbshit. You are talking about an controlled burn case. Everyone burns there. It's fucking NAMED burns.
And the militia takeover is about a range of issues. A range of issues, homo
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>>59951519
>we wuz ranchers and shit
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Ironically, the “legal” basis for starting a fight with the federal government is that sovereignty “really” belongs to Oregon rather than the Paiutes, who have seen their federal trust land shrink from over one and a half million acres to a tiny remnant of 760 acres in Burns, Oregon, where this current armed standoff began.
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>>59951559
thinking we forgot that the greatest men in history didnt even consider them human.

you're really preaching to the wrong crowd here bucko.
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Check twitter out if you want to rage, boys. Fucking liberal cucks, how do they live with themselves with all that white guilt? Pussies.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/OregonUnderAttack?src=tren
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lets denounce, guys. C'mon.
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>>59951603
I actually didn't vote. None of my photo ID's were valid, and thanks to voter document laws changing, I couldn't just show them my birth certificate and vote.
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>>59951691
yes thats correct, they literally were ranchers that literally improved the land
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>>59951713
>havent shot anything
>niggers occupy police sttions and shit as well

fuckin niggers
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>>59951726
you dont have a license?

gtfo
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>>59951590
again.this has nothing to do with niggas. This is a full blown honkey dindu issue. You literally dick ridin criminals, admitted and convicted criminals.
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>>59951726
>illegal fucking alien spotted
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>>59951670
You do know his lawyer was the one that requested the trial be moved right?
>the location was later changed to Pendleton after the attorney for the Hammonds argued they would receive a fairer trial there.
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>>59951713

I'll denounce it when they start killing civilians and blowing themselves up as martyrs.

What batshit crazy world do these twats live in where this is comparable to, say, the Paris mudslime attacks.
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>>59951133
Ditto. Literal fucking leaves shitposting straight from Trudeau's office while sucking Sikh shlong. At least aussies are far away on their prison island but the red cucknuck menace is real.
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>>59951813
>nigger is mad because he actually believes #nlm

if the governments so infallible then why can't you believe government statistics showing how uppity niggers are
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>>59951709
been raging since last night about that one
this is now about race, religion and party
the underlying problem is ignored completely.
We are so fucked, manipulated, divided
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>>59951670
Also where are you getting this mentally unfit information from? The statements were unused because of the family feuding and the witnesses identity was with held from the public
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>>59951665
So you're saying because the government won in court it means they are right? Gay marriage was forced through the Supreme Court as well, a group that is supposed to no matter what only follow the constitution in court rulings. Gay marriage technically violated the constitution, and it still went through. How progressive of you to say the government is always right.
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>>59940167

They aren't a nation, dipshit. They can't really declare war.
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>>59951806
Nah, never got it. I was too occupied with alcoholism at the time. I plan on getting it soon though.
>>59951886
Born and raised here m8, I live in one of the bastions of cultural identity in Canada, a small town that's 98% white.
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>>59951888
no i didnt know that, source
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>Redneck fucking wiggers acting like wiggers

>/pol/ defends this degenerate shit
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>>59951981

Well fuckin stated.
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>Tumblrinas start acting up on the national stage
>Obama himself calls them pussies and tells them to grow some balls.

>Militia reject retards start protesting about MUH RIGHTS and waving guns in the faces of federal agents.
>Republican politicians and Conservative media suck their dicks.

>Dems go into the election year backing centrist candidate that doesn't have any controversial platform positions and will probably walk into the white house despite being a tremendous piece of shit.

>None of the Republican Establishment candidates can find footing, and the frontrunners are all trying to outdo themselves with wacky unelectable platforms.

They tried to control idiots like this and it backfired stupendously. Now there's going to be armed idiot uprisings all year to drag down their chances even more.
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>>59951759
>>59951944
Following the hashtag is an interesting pass time
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>>59952029
where in canada you at bro?

im in a small town that is all white
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>>59952041
http://burnstimesherald.info/2012/06/27/hammonds-convicted-in-federal-court/
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What ive learned from /pol/ today

when niggers protest and destroy government property its because lol subhuman 80 iq

when whites protest and destroy government property its because lol muh oppressive federal gubment and muh Constitution


never change pol
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>>59952001
>Federal attorneys, Frank Papagni, hunted down a witness that was not mentally capable to be a credible witness. Dusty Hammond (grandson and nephew) testified that Steven told him to start a fire. He was 13 at the time and 24 when he testified (11 years later). At 24 Dusty had been suffering with mental problems for many years. He had estranged his family including his mother. Judge Hogan noted that Dusty’s memories as a 13-year-old boy were not clear or credible. He allowed the prosecution to continually use Dusty’s testimony anyway. When speaking to the Hammonds about this testimony, they understood that Dusty was manipulated and expressed nothing but love for their troubled grandson.

>enters thread
>doesnt read the central content of the thread
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Since this is federal land.... it's public land... so they have the right to be there and protest on public land
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>>59952100
they're literally the same too

>THEY DINDU NUFFIN
>THEY WUZ GOOD BOYS
>DIDN'T BREAK DER LAW
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>>59952089
West of Ottawa
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>>59952161
shiiiiiet im south of ottawa
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>>59952100
I learned all I ever needed to learn about tumblr with your post.
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>>59952130
>mental problems for years

yeah thats not a filthy kike lawyer trick is it festus?
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>>59952151
>public land
nope. that's not what that means. You can't just walk up into the White House screaming about muh rights. You can't just walk onto a military based and protest.
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>>59952158
It's actually worse, because these guys admitted that they intend to kill and be killed, in order to free convicted terrorists.
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>>59952354
well its a wildlife refuge so isnt that basically a park
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>>59952130
Ah yes, using the bundy blogspot. A totally reliable source for unbiased information on this issue. Maybe you should post that screen cap talking about the issue with no sources too.
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>>59952097
nice, i like this

>“Fires intentionally set on public lands endanger firefighters and the public,” stated United States Attorney Amanda Marshall. “The verdict sends an important message to those who think that they are above the law. We applaud the jury in Pendleton for doing the right thing based upon the evidence presented.”
>controlled burns dont exist
>the government doesnt do them
>ranchers dont do them
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>>59952394
The Federal Government in the US can decide what they want to do with their own land. It's like Crown Land up here.
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>>59952425
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/04/oregon_us_attorney_amanda_mars.html

quality right here, what a nice contribution to our federal system
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>>59952394
if you want to do something to make money at, for example a park. You would apply to use it and probably pay some fees and taxes on the money you make using that land. These ranches want to use that land for free and not pay the fees and taxes that come with using that land. Could you imagine if a rap concert used that land for free and people found out they rappers weren't paying taxes on something? People are just hung up because it's honkeys and muh guns. There is really no debate here. People are in this thread deflecting to niggas, and saying shit like "the law doesn't matter".
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>>59952425
There must be some evidence to convict him because even after the witnesses testimony was unused they convicted him. If we had the court records we could see.
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>>59951493
reposting
>>59952097

not from oregon myself but i really like the idea of removing ranchers who contribute to society and destroying their livelihood in favor of wildlife refuge which actually fairs WORSE when the ranchers are not present :^)
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>>59952720
they admitted to the crime.
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>>59952720
they convicted him for arson, and there were burns, if i was a fuckhead liberal who didnt understand controlled burns i dont see what else i would need
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>>59952849
It's called a plea agreement. What they did is common practice to stop the spread of bush and forest fires.
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>>59952929
they did it illegally.
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>>59952929
but of course the opinions you hear are from people who clearly (amanda marshall) don't understand a thing about what is common practice
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>>59952989
source
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>>59953049
literally the entire reason they're in jail
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>>59953299
oh ok

>its illegal because it's illegal
>not because it actually goes against any ordinances
>because the punishment was served, the act is now illegal

nice, i like this new philosophy, what's it called?
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