Wealth Gap Illustrated

>>59936197
tfw richest 1%
stay mad, poorfag

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>>59936241
If you live in a first world country and have a job paying slightly above minimum wage then the chances are you're also in the richest 1%

>>59936197

has the accuracy of those numbers been fully verified?

>>59936197
Life is unfair faggot get over it.

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>>59936539
Maybe Paula's parents should stop shitting out people then.

>>59936197
>dude the richest 1% own 99% of the wealth!
>t. michael moore and occupiers
>DUDE THE RICHES 1% OWN HALF OF THE WEALTH MAN!
>t. Bernie sanders
>DUDE HOLY FUCK HOW AWFUL, THE 1% OWN 16% OF THE WEALTH, WE'RE ALL EATING SHIT WE FIND ON THE PAVEMENT TO SURVIVE BECAUSE OF THAT 16%
>t. this faggots comic

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>>59936619
>Richard's parents aren't working
ok?

>>59936197

They need to do one showing that the poor in the west are actually the 1% in the world

>>59936197
Le total wealth is fixed and finite meme
Fuck off

>>59936197

Yeah, they're fucking bums and retards trying to huddle themselves next to opportunities they aren't qualified to achieve.
What's the make up of the bottom 50% doctors, lawyers, engineers?
Who are they? What are they?
Fuck them.

>>59936818
Ya blew it.

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>>59936859
>living in a chink tax cheating haven
>literally built on money coming from laundering, drugs, gambling and organized crime
>posts bait bashing muh 1%
wew

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>>59936197
why is the bottom floor raving? i thought they were poor.. bet they're on drugs too.

>>59936910
I love the part where they ignore the fact that children of dirt poor Chinese immigrants went on to be doctors and engineers without handouts.

>According to the Global Rich List, a website that brings awareness to worldwide income disparities, an income of $32,400 a year will allow you to make the cut.
>So if you’re an accountant, a registered nurse or even an elementary school teacher, congratulations. The average wage for any of these careers falls well within the top one percent worldwide.
Amazing :^)

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>>59936197
i'm kiwi this just made me sad.
but we do have an unemployment benefit which is enough to get you by.

The real injustice in the world are families living and working in sweatshops in asia, just so the west can afford cheap goods.

>>59936392
How the fuck do they get there in 3 hours together if those asshats were going to take 6 hours?

Fuck you, I got there in 1 hour and I'm moving to another country that won't force me to be held back.

I'm other words, if you cripple the rich, they'll fuck off to another country.

>>59936197
and I can categorically guarantee you that everyone you hear complaining about the wealth gap on the internet is in the next 9%

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>>59937256
That's a nice hoodie you have there...

>>59936197
I fucking hate poor people. They should all just move to Africa and die.

>>59937256
don't feel sorry for those scumbags, they are literally breeding you into poverty like locusts.

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>>59936197
Really rustles my jimmies how the vast majority of people who complain about the wealth gap don't even comprehend what causes it. They just blame capitalism.

>>59936286
"I could use a commonly known English word for a comic I plan to upload on the internet, but nah, instead I think I'll use a word specific to a small demographic of a small demographic of English speakers... Then add an asterisk anyway."

Already triggered. What a fucking retard.

>>59937045
also why someone who was supposedly dilligently studying for engineering ends up as a waitress

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>>59936392
Wtf do poor people think I need from them

>>59936197
It's not even a percentage anymore the RICHEST 20 people own more wealth then HALF of the UNITED STATES. Yes not 20% or 1% just 20 people out of 300,000,000 people.

>conservitards will defend this.

http://www.ips-dc.org/billionaire-bonanza/

>>59937294
>if you cripple the rich, they'll fuck off to another country.
You just don't get it past the "me" meme, do you?
The rich aren't rich because they work a thousand times harder than a poor person, or invented something that can do the work of a thousand people.
They are rich because they have their hands in the poor peoples pockets for "that little bit extra" the poor can't really afford to hand over.
They are rich because they have fewer scruples. They are rich because they have no standards of societal membership, other than the "me" meme.
So they'll move to another country, will they? Good. We want them to fuck off. You seriously think your economy will collapse because the people sitting on all the grease have left? What is it, exactly, that you think these people are contributing (it sure as hell ain't taxes).
Lets see if the denizens of their new chosen holiday resort will put up with their leeching as much as you obviously do.

>>59938254
>a fuck ton of people truly and honestly believe raising the minimum wage won't just cause everything else to rise in price
Holy fuck I never even took economics but come on

>>59936197

Some people are far, far more productive than others. If I produce 10x the value that you can, why should you be as wealthy as me?

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>>59936392
>if you all settle for mediocrity, it will be better for all of us
Go fuck yourself.

>>59939240
His work might be worth more? I don't know man were living in a weird world where we don't really fight for survival or anything really if you're in a first world nation

>>59936692
The loan shit is fucking bullshit, and everyone knows it.
My friend got a completely free ride through college because the government paid for it all with the bonuses he got from his parents making shit-teir cash. If he decided to go to a college that costed a bit more, the government would have given him a loan with no issue.

>>59936286
Why do liberals always have to think up these absurd analogies?

>>59936197

Wealth is what you do with your income. It's a non issue. An individual can easily live on minimum wage. The issue is nobody has a common definition of living.

>>59939234
There's a reason we're not all being paid $4 an hour like people were in the 1990s. Inflation causes shit to become more expensive, so you have to adjust minimum wage to the correct amount. If someone is working 40 hours a week at minimum wage, they should be able to support themselves and still have some spending money left to feed the economy. That isn't the case right now in some areas because of this inflation.

You're right that raising the minimum wage any more than we need to will cause the price of goods to raise, but the price of goods raise whether or not minimum wage goes up.

>>59936539
Fat little mexican girl seems to be eating well though.

>>59939240
>If I produce 10x the value that you can, why should you be as wealthy as me?
This...
Of course, if the justification is that you are more productive than me, I will claim that this applies to your offspring as well. Can I assume you will be donating your entire deathbed wealth to worthy charitable causes? No?
So now you see that the problem isn't getting paid more for what you do, it's the accumulation of a financial bludgeon, over generations, by those who are undeserving.
As this guy points out, the problem is built into the system>>59938254. Unless the created money the central banks pump out includes the money to pay the "interest" on this confetti-loan, devious people will always be able to screw the little guy.

>>59936197
Except in the real world, they all live in their own houses or apartments.
Capitalism still seems to work fine. Median nigger wage is comparable to median wage in Italy.

>>59939478
>An individual can easily live on minimum wag
Yeah, have you tried it you fucking faggot?

>>59939678
Is this the "i have TV therefore I'm not hungry" argument? I'm sure there's a phrase for it, I'll just call it fucking stupid for now.

>>59939687
I'm living on minimum wage, then again, I dont live in the libertarian hellhole that is the USA.

>>59939737
>Is this the "i have TV therefore I'm not hungry" argument? I'm sure there's a phrase for it, I'll just call it fucking stupid for now.
I don't know what you mean so your comment does nothing for me.

>>59939750
How does your place fair?

>>59936619

Ok so right off the bat it's been established that the poors have low standards.

>>59936197
Whaaat, the POOREST people only own 5.2%? Whaa- but that makes them.. oh right, poor.

>>59939791
What do you mean

>>59936197


>poorest live in an eternal rave

Seems up their ally.

>>59939858
you're fine with the wage to live on it?

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>nz statistics report

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don't let facts like this get in the way

>>59939947
fucking austrailia, you know its true

>>59939892
I'm a student, so for me it's fine.
I imagine that when you're raising kids it will be harder. But by no means impossible.

>>59936859
>How can we walk past out neighbors in trouble? D^:

It gets alot easier once you realize just how worthless the average leech is.

>>59939552

Wages increase in absence of minimum wage hikes. Inflation isn't just cost inflation, (the increase in the cost of goods), inflation is also labor price inflation. Wages naturally increase at the rate of inflation. Inflation is just a nominal change in the value of money over time to adjust for the relative scarcity of goods, wealth and money in an economy.

No one here understands that inflation is essentially meaningless between 1-5% as long as unemployment is low. It's actually a good thing.

>>59940041
the average ant is pretty worthless too, but they will outlive the human race

>>59937150
Who gives a shit about the world? I don't care if I'm better of than those in Africa and other shit heel countries because just being born in the US makes me better off. It's such a straw man to try to switch it from a country wide to a world wide statistic

>>59938254
Love that fucking picture. Of course an ounce of hard silver is worth more than a dollar, which is no longer backed by precious metals you fucking mong.

>Someone has a billion dollars

>Somehow that means I'm dirt poor and that's a billions dollars less in the world that I can earn

There are people that genuinely believe this

>>59939234
>Holy fuck I never even took economics
No shit, I can tell. Who gave banks the right for fractional reserves and at its rate of ~10 percent? Based on what? Fiat declaration and from an unconstitutional organization, the 'federal' reserve.

>>59939137
You poor deluded fool. Your hearts in the right place, but I dont think you quite get how valuable investing, manufacturing, and energy are as businesses. Hate them all you want, (and there is plenty to hate) but they are one of the only reasons we have such a high standard of living in the west, with marvels such as medicine, running water, and heat.
Terribly simple, and we wouldnt have any of these without the super rich. You need some perspective.

>income inquality is wrong
commies pls

>>59940145
The average ant isnt asking me for handouts.

>>59936803
>1% in the world
your maths may be a little off there

>>59940294
Inflation creates a zero sum scenario indirectly, if you had half a brain to consider it. Its not hyperbole like you framed it but you cant deny standards of living have deteriorated by several orders of magnitude in just a couple decades. American exceptionalism is dead and the majority of people are running on fumes. These people are the problem too, the middle class etc, still living the american dream without adjusting accordingly, but that's symptomatic of the problem and no one can fault a dog for returning to the bowl for food after decades of being fed like that.

>>59940531
That's because they don't ask, they take. They are invasive. You don't even know what ants do?

>>59937024
legit lulz

>tfw lowest 50%
Nope, the graph claiming life is so bad is complete bs. My entire family has great health, and we live comfortable in an apartment.
>tfw studying medicine in Ivy league.
Thank you scholarships for the poor.

>>59936467
Bingo my nigger.
"Top 1% have all the shit", you are top 1% retard

Haven't seen any replies so far pointing out that wealth inequality statistics (as opposed to income inequality statistics) are a load of shite http://fusion.net/story/44648/why-its-silly-to-add-up-wealth/

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>>59936197

Burn in hell, heretic.

>>59940846
>we should be happy to live above animals
nice useless argument

>>59940410
Not like an economics class will get into the fuckery that is the "Federal" Reserve

>>59936859
>Living Wage
I hate this. I really do. This has so many negative impacts it really negates the situation.

The "minimum wage" goes up to the "living wage" and immediately employers cut down on employees as much as they can - and there's so much more reason to now. This leaves even more people unemployed.

Now unskilled jobs that were minimum wage get a huge pay rise - they are now as equally paid as some skilled jobs that were already on a living wage. The people in skilled employment don't get any pay rise.

In this world some people HAVE to be on the bottom. People working on the till in McDonald's shouldn't be paid anywhere near as much as a person in a skilled job - and that's ok. What needs to be worked on is getting money from the very top and distributing it more evenly - not just throwing money into the very bottom where it isn't deserved.

>>59936197
kill the poor

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>>59936392
Morale of the story: Conform, don't ever walk at your own pace, don't ever leave the group, don't ever try to go fast, excelling at something is bad, the correct way is to always be mediocre, if you're good at something you must hold yourself back

What a nice story, really. Berniefags are gonna love it

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>>59936311
>It's not a race
>It's not a race
screw that, maybe I just enjoy going at my own pace and end up being first without trying?

>>59940603
>comparing ants to people in terms of resource consumption

Heres (You)r

>>59940931
I've takin macroeconomics and we went into fractional reserve lending and money multipliers. Sure, "fractional lending is bad" wasn't said, because it was supposed to teach the frank nature of banks and economic structure and not the implications.

Just pirate an economics book and think for yourself.

>>59936197
The only reason the lower class is so large and growing is because poor people keep having more children than rich people.

>1 poor family, 1 rich family
>give us money u shitlord we poor
>theres 4 people lets divide the wealth ok

>rich family has 2 children
>poor family shits out 10 more poor children
>right theres 16 people now, you need to divide your wealth amongst us 16

>poor family shits out 100 new children, rich family 4
>pls divide equally amongst us all :)

>>59936197
>kiwis
Get out of here New Zealand

>All this poor people hate and people thinking they are untouchable gods
Now I don't feel so bad for the rich people throughout history that were pulled from their homes by mobs of poor people and killed.

The 1% use the next 14% as a human shield. That 14%, those craving to be recognized, get recognized as "the rich" by the bottom 45% and attacked, fulfilling both the 14%'s dream and the bottom 45%'s desire for social justice. The 1% takes a drive to his summer home in The Hamptons.

Indeed, OWS levied the majority of its complaints at people making <300k, and nobody complained about people making >50m. And not for nothing, but their fury dissipated over the course of a trimester, having achieved zero policy change and discrediting all future attempts. Why would anyone think that group could be employable in the first place? And leaving the bottom 45% is predicated on employment, lest we forget.

>>59940933

The US provides living wages to every single person. Minorities go to jail at a cost of 2000/mo, single moms and people with disabilities get paid about 1200/mo for "completing high school" or "some college." College graduates get food stamps.

>>59941186
>thinking poorfags like you have any power

>>59940436
>Your hearts in the right place
Envy is right?

>>59941253
Ya just like how all those rich people were safe and thought no one can touch them until the lower class got fed up.

History has shown that the poor will always outnumber the rich and their servants. The only way they can hold power is keeping the lower class unarmed so they can't rise up but that only works to a certain extent. But hey this is obviously a bait thread so I'm out.

>>59939801

small number/10

>/pol/ literally defending Jewish bankers
Oy

>>59939331

>anecdotal fallacy

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>>59937045

lol

imbeciles.

I inherited 4m € and 2 houses.

Am I 1% yet?

>>59937294

In the sphere of economics this is stupid, in hiking this is what groups do. We did this in Boy Scouts.

The 3 hour people set the pace, the 6 hours are in the middle and us 1 hours don't let the 6 hours stop. If it is a young kid or something we'll grab some of their shit. But then again a proper crew weighs and distributes gear based on weight (which is typically correlated to age and strength if people are in shape)

The assumption is 6 hour people are lazy or weak. The faster people call them fags and yell to stop slacking, or grab the Dutch oven from the scrawny 12 year old.

>>59938254
that is quite possibly the most retarded info-graphic I have ever seen. Bankers hate inflation. People in debt love inflation. If I can pay off by house with a gallon of milk I'm a happy camper. To think that bankers are causing inflation to steal your wealth you must be some sort of special retard.

>>59936539
Maybe if these people didn't give birth to elderly people they wouldn't have a problem

Do you want to stop the sun from rising, or to stop people from dying? Wealth gap is inevitable and will never be "fixed," so stop bitching and start earning.

>>59936197
New Zealand is irrelevant though.

>>59941060
The moral of the story is that the fastest people should force the slowest people to go fucking faster. Do whatever it takes. Tie a rope around their necks if you have to :^)

>>59936197
Reminder the 20/80% split has existed everywhere for nearly all of human civilization and capitalism has been the only system in which everyone massively benefits.

>>59936674
/thread
There will always be a "1%" to these people

>>59940436
>we wouldnt have any of these without the super rich
You have proof? Or just assumptions that fit your personal agenda.
Arguing that it's "the way it is" because it's the way it is is just fucking stupid. If all you say is true, then why has standards of living dropped during a period when there's more bullshit investing going on than ever before?
There is a limited amount of wealth in the world, and in it's liquid form, it's grease for the wheels of industry. The rich are sitting on it, and investing not based on what society needs, but on what generates the quickest and best returns. Meanwhile, what isn't in their interests gets neglected, and the economy seizes up, because unlike 50-50 years ago, we poor folk no longer have the means to collectively fix it, and are too busy working 2 jobs to pay for Chad's fucking swimming pool!
Oh, I know the economy will right itself eventually, but meanwhile people suffer because the nation's vehicle is running on broken parts.
The rich aren't creating our civilization. They are wantonly holding us back from what we could achieve if everyone had a chance to make the best of themselves, instead of having to work all hours just to make ends meet.
Please don't make any more puerile efforts to convince me I'm wrong or deluded. It's clearly your agenda speaking.

>>59936197
I get the message but it is too hamfisted for me. Why bother posting on /pol/ when these people dont give a fuck?

>>59939668
>So now you see that the problem isn't getting paid more for what you do, it's the accumulation of a financial bludgeon, over generations, by those who are undeserving.
Fuck off
This hurts the poor and middle class waay more than "muh undeserving rich kids" who very very rarely remain rich from inherence.
The vast majority of the extremely rich are self made.
That and the concept of not being able to pass down what you worked for to give your children a better life is absolutely abhorrent.

Also Pickety has been debunked in this claim so again sit on a spool

>>59943490
>The vast majority of the extremely rich are self made.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socio-economic_mobility_in_the_United_States

>>59940603
>it but you cant deny standards of living have deteriorated by several orders of magnitude in just a couple decades.
This is objectively false
Standard of living has risen from 20-30 years ago.
Something like less than 40% of poor homes had things like a single car microwave even air-conditioning.
Now that number for all is above 80% with shit like the internet on top.
The issue is still destruction of the money supply but the idea that today's poor are worse off is just wrong wrong wrong.

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All these comics and all these gifs only to convince people that the government needs to take someone elses' money via threats of jail or death.

>>59940918
>africans are animals
confirmed racist bigot nazi fascist white supremacist sexist capitalist cis hetero male
triggered

>>59943597
Posting an unrelated link isn't going to refute what I said

http://www.chicagobooth.edu/capideas/magazine/summer-2013/billionaires-self-made

>>59936197
communist propaganda

You have 10 seconds to explain why a total taxrate of x% of your total income wouldn't work, for literally everyone, no exceptions.

Have little? Pay little? The number of x can be adjusted, but it is the same for everyone.

>>59943597
Also thanks for arguing against your self

>A large academic study released in 2014 found income mobility has not changed appreciably in the last 20 years[9] [10]


^ LEONHARDT, DAVID (January 23, 2014). "Upward Mobility Has Not Declined, Study Says". New York Times. Retrieved January 23, 2014.
^ Chetty, Raj; Nathaniel Henderson; Patrick Kline; Emmanuel Saez; Nicholas Turner. "NBER WORKING PAPER SERIES, WHERE IS THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY? THE GEOGRAPHY OF INTERGENERATIONAL MOBILITY IN THE UNITED STATES" (PDF). January 2014. Equality of Opportunity Project. Retrieved 23 January 2014.


Link related

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/368952/inequality-fallacies-thomas-sowell

>>59936197
If this is true they should live Donald Trump. That lower 50% is going to get a massive tax break and no one will benefit more from the factory and industry coming back to America than them

>>59936859
>implying in a well designed building you would even see the half a ground floor.

You don't see the air-conditioning, why would you see the losers in janitorial?

>>59937294
Don't let the door hit your entitled ass on the way out.

>>59943490
>This hurts the poor and middle class waay more than "muh undeserving rich kids" who very very rarely remain rich from inherence.
Where the fuck do you get this shit from? Do you imagine we'll just lap it up without asking? Do you imagine I've never heard of a trust fund?
>the concept of not being able to pass down what you worked for to give your children a better life is absolutely abhorrent
To who? You? Because I can guarantee you it's a "meh" issue to those who don't have pot to piss in, let alone a billion dollars to pass down. Are you by any chance one of those genetic waste of spaces who's just waiting for mom and pop to shuffle off, so you can spend the rest of your life also doing nothing and claiming it's fair?
The concept of dead people giving stuff away is what has caused the massive economic bludgeon in the first place. Money is power, and power generates money. If you don't have a mechanism to prevent this from getting out of hand, your civilization will collapse.
Why is greed always so fucking stupid? I'm not even asking for all of their wealth. Just enough to prevent poor people from getting an opportunity to "live the dream". How many Einsteins spent their lives as short order chef's, because they came from Hell's Kitchen instead of Ann Arbour?

>>59936197
Life's not fair bro. Get used to it.

>>59940158
>Who gives a shit about other families? I don't care if I'm better of than those families in detroit and other shit heel towns because just being born in this family makes me better off. It's such a straw man to try to switch it from a family wide to a country wide statistic

>>59936197

CAPITALISM IS THE ONLY SYSTEM THAT WORKS YOU STUPID FUCK

>>59944296
>Where the fuck do you get this shit from? Do you imagine we'll just lap it up without asking? Do you imagine I've never heard of a trust fund?
So now you're arguing against your own position of "m m m nuh trust fund kiddies"
> To who? You? Because I can guarantee you it's a "meh" issue to those who don't have pot to piss in, let alone a billion dollars to pass down
I'm middle class
The inherence tax you suggest would mean I get nothing from my parents which would put massive strain on my future.
My families small business simply wouldn't exist if said tax existed because the modest sim used to start it would have been taxed away.

>block of insults
This is why you're a nigger wanting to take shit from people because of sheer envy.
> If you don't have a mechanism to prevent this from getting out of hand, your civilization will collapse.
You're following a absolute red herring you ignorant sambo. The issue is that the government can take from some and give to others. Expansion of this isbonky going to make it worse as it has.

Get to reading I'm not spoon feeding this to your dumb ass

http://www.themoneymasters.com

>>59941236
so you're a sociopath. cool

>>59941539
because all the solutions posed are yet more jewish plans

>>59942630
>discouraging saving is a good thing!
literally retarded

>>59943340
what is your solution?

>>59944584
What if it's run in such a way that people at the top use government privileges to magnify their wealth?

Doesn't sound very fair to me

>>59943824
never leave this place

>>59944104
> A 2013 Brookings Institution study found income inequality was becoming more permanent, sharply reducing social mobility.[8]
Literally a sentence before the one you quoted

>>59944296
>The concept of dead people giving stuff away is what has caused the massive economic bludgeon in the first place.
Forgot to add
See
>>59944104
>>59943864
This statement is objectively false and you're a faggoy for repeating such debunked claims

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We must fix the inequality!!!

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>>59942907
underrated post

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>>59944880
>Literally a sentence before the one you quoted
And is outdated and used a different fallacious methodology to come to such a conclusion as explained in the article I posted. There is a deliberate reason leftist with an agenda never ever ever look at IRS income data and instead focus on abstract brackets. Doing this is the equivalent of being told "A man gets hit by a car every 20 minutes in new York city" and responding with "well he must get awfully tired of that".

So you're relying on both an outdated and fallacious study to back up your shitty and wrong agenda driven position.

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>>59939967

>tfw me and wife in top 5%

>>59944609
How am I arguing against my own posit? You are the one who said rich kids don't stay rich (they mostly do. They may piss away a lot of money, but this isn't Hollywood. Very rarely do they end up in absolute poverty)
>The inherence tax you suggest
I made no such suggestion. Well done for having such a good argument you needed to put words in my mouth
>This is why you're a nigger wanting to take shit from people because of sheer envy.
Again, putting out shit I never claimed. I have worked my entire life, including serving my country. I have done many low paid jobs that no-one wanted to do, and did them because they needed doing, and because my needs are few and it was a living wage. I never complained.
Your inability to understand that not everyone you meet is as greedy and self-serving as you are is the root of the problem here, I think. You assume your default position of "fuck you, I'm all right" is shared willingly by everyone, and it isn't. I am concerned not for my own welfare but for the welfare of my country.
>get reading
I can, and have read thank you.
>calls me an ignorant sambo
>posts a link to the moneymasters
You are a fucking joke wearing the garbage gown of an intellectual. I have read Smith, Keynes and Friedman. I don't need your advice on economics (which seem to be based on "how can I make this work for me" rather than "this is how it actually is").
In a back and forth lasting nearly an hour, all you have done is spout unprovable memes to support your greed. It's all you people ever do, because it's all you people ever have.

>>59945089
And how do you know that specific article does that?

Also within the article you endorsed in

>“It matters more who your parents are today than it did in the past,” Mr. Chetty said.

>>59945429
>And how do you know that specific article does that
Because I've actually read it
You aren't posting anything I haven't already seen and studies like the one you're posting have existed using identical methodology for decades to push this agenda.

>>59944826
State seizure of all wealth at point of death. offset against income tax for the poorest.
You want to give your kids something? Do it on your deathbed, or even better, do it now! Dead bodies don't own stuff, because they cannot make a claim it's theirs if there is a dispute. They can't give stuff away either, cos their mouth, mind and muscles don't work. That's why it's called will-power. You can't "will" someone your fortune if you can't will.
Gradually, over generations, accidents and fuckups will ensure a more even spread of wealth, while still allowing for personal achievement.

>>59945425
>I made no such suggestion. Well done for having such a good argument you needed to put words in my mouth
And you're now an admitted liar
>>59945695
>State seizure of all wealth at point of death. offset against income tax for the poorest.

>>59937045
>I saw a image of some random chinks with words under them on /pol/
Oh okay, that's what happened. Of course, how silly of me to think otherwise.

>>59945794
>>59945695
Again you're complaining against greed
Tell us how it isn't greed to want to use the force of the state to take money from someone and give it to others to which it never belonged?

>>59945683
Even if that is true, (Why look at IRS tax data when the rich has tax evasion and the poor don't) you still haven't address the point i made that even the article that you endorsed claims that upward mobility is still low.

>>59936197

That's kind of the definition of being poor... WHAT THE FUCK DO THEY EXPECT?

We need more wealth inequality if anything

>>59946007
>We need more wealth inequality if anything
I get what you're trying to say, but you put it in the most retarded way possible

>>59945956
>, (Why look at IRS tax data when the rich has tax evasion and the poor don't) you still haven't address the point i made that even the article that you endorsed claims that upward mobility is still low.
It is identical to what it has always been
Which isn't that low compared to the rest of the world.

And again you've refused to even read the article postrd why the IRS data is the correct data to use.

http://m.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2013/03/06/economic-mobility-n1525556/page/full

>>59944296
>How many Einsteins spent their lives as short order chef's, because they came from Hell's Kitchen instead of Ann Arbour?
probably 0

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>implying wealth inequality is even a bad thing in and of itself

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>>59946229
only when wealth is gained through force is it negative

>>59945794
I am a patient man, so I will abide by the unthinking mumblings of fools, and try to explain this to you once more.
I had MADE no such claim when I posted that response. I made the suggestion to seize all wealth after that point. But fair enough, you see that as a tax, and I can see why you would think that, even though it's not.
You want to avoid paying my death duty. I can see that. Who wouldn't? Well, it's simple. Give your money to your children 1 hour, 1 minute, 1 SECOND before you stop breathing, and I won't ask for a bean. Fair?
It's not a tax, btw, because no-one is being taxed. The wealth is being stripped from a piece of meat. It cannot protest, appeal or claim it is being oppressed or targeted. It has no protection under the law, because you cannot cause distress or alarm to a corpse, and therefore you cannot trespass against it.
>Tell us how it isn't greed to want to use the force of the state to take money from someone and give it to others to which it never belonged?
Er...because I'm giving it to others, and not keeping it for myself?
(boy, you greedy people sure are thick)

>>59946153
>http://m.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2013/03/06/economic-mobility-n1525556/page/full
It said nothing about the IRS data

>>59945695
>sign over vast majority of wealth to children during retirement
>commie plans fail

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>>59946358
Aye

>>59946164
Men can do incredible things no matter their upbringing or "unjust" birth circumstances.
Which inof itself is an insane idea because to fight this you're waging war against the very cosmos themselves to gain this warped idea if Rawlsian "justice" which necessitates quite literally infinite power to redress these "injustices".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie

I've asked about this before, and didn't get any info, but both Based Sowell and Based Shapiro talk about the three things you have to do to escape permanent poverty in the US:
>don't have kids before you're married
>graduate high school
>don't go to jail
Does anyone have a source to the data they get this from?

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>>59946536
>I am a patient man, so I will abide by the unthinking mumblings of fools, and try to explain this to you once more.
>I had MADE no such claim when I posted that response
Calling others fool for preempting your own argument because it is so damn predictable is only representative of yourself.
> Well, it's simple. Give your money to your children 1 hour, 1 minute, 1 SECOND before you stop breathing, and I won't ask for a bean. Fair
>Because all deaths are some movie esque deathbed and wills haven't been invented forever ago to address unexpected death.
No it isn't fair.
> It's not a tax, btw, because no-one is being taxed.
The family of the deceased is being taxed.
> Er...because I'm giving it to others, and not keeping it for myself?
If I come.mug you and then give what I take to a homeless man is it not theft?

>>59937256
>asian sweatshops
>the west's fault

The west used to have their own sweatshops until workers demanded better working conditions and better pay. When Asians do this too, their situation will change.

>>59946582
No you're just a retard that can't read

But the very opposite conclusion arises in studies that follow actual flesh-and-blood individuals over time, most of whom move up across the various income brackets with the passing years. Most working Americans who were initially in the bottom 20 percent of income-earners, rise out of that bottom 20 percent. More of them end up in the top 20 percent than remain in the bottom 20 percent.

People who were initially in the bottom 20 percent in income have had the highest rate of increase in their incomes, while those who were initially in the top 20 percent have had the lowest. This is the direct opposite of the pattern found when following income brackets over time, rather than following individual people.

Most of the media publicize what is happening to the statistical brackets -- especially that "top one percent" -- rather than what is happening to individual people.

We should be concerned with the economic fate of flesh-and-blood human beings, not waxing indignant over the fate of abstract statistical brackets. Unless, of course, we are hustling for an expansion of the welfare state.

>>59946601
YES! YES! YES! Because I am not a commie. I just want to introduce a mechanism which will gradually level the playing field. There will be enough rich-guy meets sportscar accidents over the centuries to ensure vast pools of wealth are periodically re-distributed outside the family.
You will have to actually give your wealth to your children, btw. I'm not sure what you mean by "sign over the vast majority", but if you mean "they can have this when I'm gone" it's no different to the current setup. You will have to actually give them the money (and watch them squander it, possibly)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N3FF_3KvU&sns=em

This ^^ I know some aren't a fan of Stefan. However this clarifies why people want more because it's never enough....

>>59946609
>a theory of justice

>if you put 20 people in a room and asked them to design society with no knowledge of their own position or skills, they will end up with socialism

>just accept this guys trust me

kek, a genius philosopher

>>59936197
t. singapoor

how is your income inequality over there, ching chong?

>>59936392
>>59936349
>>59936311
>>59936286

What is it with progressives and their shitty analogies? And why they all done with horrible comics that involve a wall of text?

>>59947109
it's not necessarily to convince you, it's a means for them to preach and feel better by venting.

>>59946962
Sweatshops are more of a symptom of an undeveloped economy that doesn't have the capital investment of a wealthier nation. Working conditions improve as businessmen figure out ways to make them economically viable, not by state writ.

>>59947109
It just proves why they're at the bottom of the building

>>59946880
That is such a crappy heap of half-chewed ideas I'm not even going to address them. You need to get your head around the idea that what you've thought is right your whole life might just possibly be...not. And cherry-picking data to misrepresent just makes you look impulsive and undereducated, btw. Enjoy your parents middling wealth, and I'm sure you aren't going to let a moaning minnie like me from spoiling your perfect life.
But you are the problem. And you know it, even if you won't admit it.

>>59936286
>>59936311
>>59936349
>>59936392
Why can't this fucking retard just let these be drawings and not add these pointless and distracting animations.

>>59947282
if you buy a decent product your odds of it coming from a sweatshop are pretty low. Even for something like a sweatshirt... if you buy a knockoff like at a souvenir shop quality it may be sweatshop, but from a legit store most likely not. China doesn't really have them any more, the cheapest labour cost is constantly moving to the poorest place. And as mentioned the cheapest labor will not meet quality standards.

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>if I draw false analogies as multi-part animated comics maybe people will think they're not retarded

ignoring that it's not zero-sum and that the people crammed into that tiny room in the analogy are actually living on luxurious welfare where they get housing accommodations, food, and medical care for free and spending money on top

>>59947010
>I'm not a Commie
>I only support one of the most important parts of Communism with the exact same goal and values

>>59947332
>That is such a crappy heap of half-chewed ideas I'm not even going to address them. You need to get your head around the idea that what you've thought is right your whole life might just possibly be...not.
Tell that to yourself

The issue we see today is a direct result of government bring able to redistribute wealth.
>B B but this time it will be different
Isn't an argument

>>59948379
>I'm not a power ranger
>but my motorcycle helmet IS blue
you're an idiot

>>59948495
Speak for yourself

Unfortunately libs don't want to distribute the building fairly.
They want to tear down the entire building except for the are the 50% own, then use the materials to build a nicer building across the street, using the 50% as the laborers.

>>59936197
The IQ bell curve explains that. Sub 100 IQ fags don't deserve to own real estate.

>>59946977
Literally no metion of IRS data and it being superior.

Also
>Let ignore patterns made by groups and focus only on individuals
Okay