Whats wrong with communism?

>implying rocket scientists should be paid the same as gas station attendants

>>59823514
corruption.

>>59823514
>>literally no niggers

>implying

>leftists
>getting rid of their pet shitskins

(you)
sage
thraed hidden.

>>59823514
>mass starvation

>>59823718

>Implying money, an abstract idea, a currency that has "value" because a few powerful men in suites says it does, should matter at all.

Once we purge the world of greedy, selfish people like you, we can progress. I'm studying to be a doctor and would still do it if it paid minimum wage. Stop thinking about how much you can fill your own pockets, but rather how you can contribute and help mankind, or in the very least if you want to hold onto your primitive /pol/tard views, your race. Fucking faggot.

>>59823514
>no religion

Except the state is revered as a god.

>>59824062
>Implying money, an abstract idea, a currency that has "value" because a few powerful men in suites says it does, should matter at all.

No. Everyone agrees on the value of money. I accept money because I can buy food with it. Yes it relies on trust, but its so well implemented and its the only way of running a global economy. Basic economics commiecuck.

>Once we purge the world of greedy, selfish people like you, we can progress. I'm studying to be a doctor and would still do it if it paid minimum wage. Stop thinking about how much you can fill your own pockets, but rather how you can contribute and help mankind, or in the very least if you want to hold onto your primitive /pol/tard views, your race. Fucking faggot.

Lets purge the world of all the "greedy" people who advance mankind by by following their personnal interests. What could go wrong?

>>59823955
>>59823955
I can only name a few socialist/communist countries that had mass starvation, and much of it was caused by war, economic sabotage, or natural disaster.

>>59823514
Because men corrupt it.

everyone is poor then. YOu can forget your iphone, nice clothing, pc and playstation if you go for gommunism.

Its just a farce for plebs who think it is justice.

Capitalism is just ruthlessly honest while Communism is a lie,

>>59823514
The equal pay thing is kinda Bullshit like should a mcdonalds worker really make the same as say a doctor?

>>59824952

>Everyone agrees on the value of money.

Haha, fuck off. The currency isn't even backed by anything anymore. It's empty of value, only upheld by the petrodollar which will fail eventually.

>>59824952

Yeah those greedy parasites hoarding billions of dollars offshore are really advancing mankind by following their personal interests of eating caviar, drinking fine wine, playing gold and carving up the world in their favour.

You are a simpleton, and a primitive moron who needs to a bucket of reality splashed in his face.

>>59823514

>everyone gets paid equality

actually this is not true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_ability,_to_each_according_to_his_needs

^ motto of communists

>>59825957

equally*

>>59823514
hard to argue when you put it that way

>>59825667
>doctor
doctors dont make that much its fat bloated oligarchs like trump that inherit billions and lose most of it and still get to lord over us as literal kings

doctors are middle class for the most part except a few outliers in beverly hills plastic surgery

>>59825344
Still, being poor in somewhere like socialist Hungary or the USSR didn't carry the same burden that being poor in a capitalist country did. Almost everyone in socialist countries had a job, food, education, medical care, and freedom from financial worries. Poor people in the USA (middle class kids with Che shirts don't count) still have difficulty obtaining those today.

>>59823514
>everyone gets equal pay
That's what's wrong

>>59824062
Yes I would absolutely love to work to my utmost to ensure that farming peasants receive their vodka rations

shut up, the idea of communism is laughable, the only reason it's still prevalent today is exactly greed, the greed too seem on a higher moral plane than the "unknowing capitalists"

I cant believe Socialist Alternative hasn't be ostracised from this country forever

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>literally no niggers

>>59825804

golf*

>>59826110
>Yes I would absolutely love to work to my utmost to ensure that farming peasants receive their vodka rations

Don't be stupid, they stole food from farmers and their families to feed urban centers where most of the party members were concentrated.

>>59826110

And this is why people like you need to be sent to a work camp. You don't have any interest in the common good, just in your own interests.

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>>59826110
>I cant believe Socialist Alternative hasn't be ostracised from this country forever
>mfw my Uni ejected them from the Uni as an officially recognised group and now they beg for scraps
Ironically, it was because of antisemitism. They should read up on the USSR where antisemitism was punishable by the death penalty.

>>59823731
Don't ignore the poor gook living in the actual communist country, he speaks from experience.

>>59826248
He just wants to mind his own business and make his own decisions. You want to enslave him and steal the fruit of his labor.

>>59823514
>2016
>being a globalist

>>59826239
Not sure if you're defending communism or not here lad but w/e either scenario is hilarious

>>59826248
>first response for a differing view is the labour camps

can't make this shit up

common interests are nice and all, but the irony being that the strive for common interests via socialism is less beneficial than capitalist privatisation - that's just how it is lad, it's nice of you want the best for the people but you're really just calling for balance, not betterment

If you can somehow make Communism work without Cultural Marxism, go ahead; but if there's Cultural Marxism, then you're literally killing everyone by either having everyone become mutts, all cultures fading into one, and/or religion disappearing, and if you don't want that to happen, you'll need countries, borders, and homelands for everyone.

If you can't fulfill that, fuck off.

>>59826248

>guy wants to keep the products of his own labor
>better throw him in a work camp

This is why Communists need to be rounded up and shot.

>>59823514
Apart from what others have already mentioned
>no freedom of speech
>no property rights
>kids forcibly indoctrinated by state
>gulag for anyone who thinks there's something wrong with any of this

>>59825097

Communist nations rife with famine:

China
DPRK
Vietnam
Yugoslavia
USSR (all of it)

>see flag

Fucking deport to Sweden already or neck yourself.

>>59823514

Man fuck off with your shilling. We can tell you haven't spent 5 minutes learning about communism.

>>59823514

she looks like an ape

>>59825804

>Yeah those greedy parasites hoarding billions of dollars offshore are really advancing mankind by following their personal interests of eating caviar, drinking fine wine, playing gold and carving up the world in their favour.

>I have no idea what I'm talking about but I'm seriously jealous of what I see in movies.

>>59826599

Do you remember what happened to all the German women when the commies invaded Berlin?

>>59826392

Yup. Greed is a disease, and punishment is the cure. He wouldn't be enslaved permanently, but maybe after 5-10 years of teaching the parasite a lesson, he'd be released and might have a chance to go and be a greedy faggot in a different country.

>>59823514
>slavs aren't bleached niggers
you fucked up OP

>>59823514
If you mean like Stalinist communism then I'm not going to bother answering. If you mean the utopic vision of a stateless society, supposing such a thing could exist, I don't really have a problem with it. I don't have a problem with the current setup either really.

>>59826803
k dont reply lad all good lmao

>>59826043

That's a load of shit. You need to watch some documentaries about Boris Yeltsin. He wept, literally wept, when he came to America and saw the shopping centers because his people had nothing by comparison.

The leading killer of otherwise healthy people throughout the USSR was starvation. The top killer. Whereas in the US it was heart disease during the same period.

>>59823514
Because sociopaths exist. They work there way to the top as with any other system and fuck it up.

Also communism inherently put's more power in the hands of the state so the effects are worse. Because of this communism will always been totalitarian unless you have a completely benign leadership which will never, ever happen.

>>59826803

>parasite

Wait, he wants to work to pay his own way and he's the parasite? LOL

>>59823514
>literally no niggers
Communism has literally nothing to do with niggers.
>no religion
How is that a good thing exactly? Fucking Canadian heretics.
>no muslims
Again, nothing to do with communism.
>everyone gets equal pay
You're a retard, but of course you're trolling /pol/ so what else would I expect.

>>59823514
I like how /pol/tards who vigourasly advocate mass racial extermination wars
Think a few folags here and there for the parasites is just such a horrible crime.
Communism is the superior ideology it's why despite all that's happened ,we're still here

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>>59823514
>founded by jews

Hmm I wonder why communism sucks...

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>>59826043

Looks like paradise

>>59823514
>>literally no niggers
In communism, EVERYONE is a nigger

No one will work, the select few that still have a shred of work ethic will have their earnings redistributed to nothing, and you will live life knowing that everything you have can be taken away by the state on a whim, to the exclusive benefit of those who enforce the system.

Shitheads can keep chanting the "in-theory" mantra but in PRACTICE, this is how it goes down; the forced mediocrity of human nature to keep them docile and subservient to a select elite.

>>59826984
Or anarcho-communism. It's straight communism after the revolution with no transition phase of a dictatorship of the proletariat/vanguard party.

>>59827009

He wants to use the tools, land, and opportunities produced/created by others to get ahead and stuff his pockets with as much as he can.

Yes, he is a parasite to the society.

>>59824062
>Once we purge the world of greedy, selfish people like you, we can progress
Funny since Muslims say the same thing
Reminder that Communism is a death cult religion

>>59827093

Tell me more about the great wonders of communism. What have communists done that has ensured our survival? Name one thing, even one, and then make your case why it's communist.

If anything, communism has taught us that technology stagnates in a purely communist environment. Why do you think China is so far behind the curve? Russia (yes, they are)?

>>59826599
Agreed. Want a beer?

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The only good Communist is a dead Communist.

>>59827197

The revolution won't succeed in the first place without a defined central leadership which will become the new state. That's just how it works.

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If I could hit a button that would kill all communists, I would press it as fast as physically possible.

>>59827211

Actually, he's more likely to create the tools, improve the land, and bring about opportunities than a working peasant in a communist system.

>No point in bettering yourself or others because everyone gets equal treatment no matter what
>But some people are more equal than others
>Nothing interesting happens because everyone just does work, work that isn't particularly good or bad, just work

>>59823514
>communism
>pay

Communism doesn't have wages you fucking leaf

>>59825804
>Haha, fuck off. The currency isn't even backed by anything anymore. It's empty of value, only upheld by the petrodollar which will fail eventually.

Like I said, it is backed by trust. Can't you read Dr. Cuckfaggot?

>Yeah those greedy parasites hoarding billions of dollars offshore are really advancing mankind by following their personal interests of eating caviar, drinking fine wine, playing gold and carving up the world in their favour.

Hurr durr le rich people is evil xd feel the bern!!1! Xd
What about the millions of workers exchanging putting their expertise at use in exchange for money? Is that greed? Or is it only greed when youre rich?

>You are a simpleton, and a primitive moron who needs to a bucket of reality splashed in his face.

Fuck off commiecuck. How does it feels to know that the system you support has failed every time it has been implemented?

>>59825097
>economic sabotage,

Read that from Stalin's personal diaries did ya?

That's all that leftists do, if something doesn't work SABOTEURS DID IT.

>>59827422
That's why I'm not a revolutionary (I'm a socialist, not a communist).

>>59826305
Antisemitism was not a capital crime in the USSR. Stalin condemned antisemitism in his written works as a distraction from class struggle, but IIRC synagogues were torn down just like churches were.

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>>59825804

>>59827710
Same thing faggot.

>>59827621

And the capitalist system hasn't failed?

Look around you. You really think it's a success? In order for the current system of capitalism to exist, there has to be a ruling class, and some form of modern day slavery. How can you say it's successful?

>>59827211
>>59827476

Let me put it this way: who is the bigger parasite? The guy who lives in state housing, uses state transportation, and waits in line at the state ration center or the guy who enables everyone to not have to work as hard and for so little?

It's great that you think communism is more egalitarian but purges and starvation - both necessary for it to work - say otherwise.

>>59827794
>You really think it's a success?

You're on a computer arguing with people across the world.

You don't know the value of your own life snowflake.

Are you retarded or something.
Communism is an ideology that's affected millions of people. If you want a list of inventors and there various developments under communism then fucking Google them.
As for explaining why the second world is behind the tech curve
simple answer will undoubtedly make your tiny little penis swell,
America out maneuvered Russia and one the cold war

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>>59823514
Everyone who ever says communism is good, should be forced to spend a week in Cuba on pain of exile from their home country. If you think that living in a scrap metal shack, tending a banana farm, and just barely surviving because the government takes everything you produce is nirvana, then be my guest pal but don't suck everyone else into that shit pit along with you.

The only benefit of communism is that now instead of some people having nothing everybody has nothing, unless of course you happen to be a general or el presidente's son. You can argue all day and night with me about how our corrupt capitalism is because there is inequality but it doesn't mean communism is the way to go. Sure in our society the ladder is harder to climb for some, and some are born higher up on that ladder, but there is still a ladder to be climbed, and I'll take the potential to have nothing over the guarantee of nothing any day of the week.

>TFW you actually get triggered by bait

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>>59827794
>And the capitalist system hasn't failed?
It takes a special kind of retard to think it has failed.

>>59827915

So because you can have a few materialistic goods it's a success? Talk about having your head stuck up your ass, fucking hell.

>>59827794

Because I haven't starved to death, I have all my creature comforts, and if I want I can engage in politics no matter how fruitless.

Whether or not something is successful is relative however capitalism has certainly maintained a great standard of living compared to communism and that's what really counts.

>people taking this bait seriously

>>59823514
>equal pay
>implying thats a good thing

>>59827776
You clearly have no clue what you're saying.

I'm an anarchist so there is a tremendous different. I support private property while at the same time supporting that workers get the fruits of their labor. I want a market form of stateless socialism. Communists oppose not only private property, but also money too. They don't want markets either. See the difference?

>>59827997

Are you just simply ignoring all the technological advances that have made our lives fundamentally better or are you just trolling?

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>>59828040
>mfw

>>59828081

Anarchism is on the same tier of retardation as communism. Just saying.

>>59823514
It's economically unsustainable, and people revert to using the black market like everyone in china.

>>59823514
>almost guaranteed tyrannical government
>less incentive to create a quality product
>inefficient
>yes there'd still be religion
>yes their'd still be niggers
>yes their'd still Muslims
>inequality would still exist

You're a retard

>>59827794
Yes its a success. We are lifting millions and millions of people out of poverty. Just look at the booming chinese middle class.
Communism had a ruling class. Whats your point?
Capitalism brings an incredible quality of life. Fuck off with your hurr you must work all ur life xdddd slave!!1!!
Finally why is capitalism a success? It values freedom.

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>>59823514

>>59827997
Those materialistic goods bring efficiency and comfort to life.

It excessive now because we've gone well beyond what is needed for a comfortable life and that's really the issue. It's not capitalism that's the problem, it's unfettered, completely unrestrained capitalism.

If anything it could be toned down a notch or two. Doesn't mean we have to go full retard.

>>59827974

It takes a special kind of retard to not grasp that that their country is not trillions in debt, and the only way it's able to stay afloat is by invading other countries for oil, exporting millions of jobs to third world shitholes where the goods are produced by slaves and printing more useless currency. There are millions of people in your country on foodstamps, millions others homeless, millions of others without adequate access to healthcare and sometimes have to go thousands into debt if they get injured.

Really nice illusion you've created. YOU are the special kind of retard.

>>59828301
>debt

Because of Socialism.

>>59828086

So you think capitalism fuels innovation? That's a myth. Why do you think so many scientists are leftists? Most inventors don't invent things for money.

>>59826698
Yugoslavia's troubles began after it started simmering in the 80s from nationalistic factions.
The DPRK is headed by Juche, not Marxism-Leninism, and it's also been affected by droughts and harsh economic sanctions.
China isn't socialist and hasn't been since the 70s. Also, the worst famines in the country, during the 50s and 60s, were at least in some part due to natural disaster and the fact that Mao didn't know anything about industrialization.
IIRC Vietnam's worst famines were when it was still torn by war. Millions of Vietnamese people were killed in combat or collateral damage, many were crippled by chemical weapons, and the country lost a lot of agricultural productivity and supply lines to bombings.
The USSR had no serious famines after 1947. With the obvious exception of the quasi-genocidal Holodomor, most famines in the country occurred during or shortly after severe wartime damage or droughts.

>>59828301
>MUH CAPITALIST DEBT XDD

Like the URSS did'nt have any, eh?

>>59823718
For all you know some gas station attendant has the idea for a warp drive in the works right now. Using rocketry as an argument against communism is just fucking retarded because of the clear history of space exploration. Nasa pays Russia to launch them in space now a days.

The communist space program absolutely slaughtered the capitalist space program.

>>59828458

Not to the degree on the USSR. And at least during peacetime, citizens had access to healthcare, had jobs, education, and other basic necessities. People don't have that in some modern capitalist countries today. The USSR was basically perfect if you fixed the issues of abuse of authority.

>>59828576
>other basic neccesities

Yea sure, they just had to wait 6 hours in line to get them.

>>59826909
Serious famine in the USSR didn't happen after 1947. The closest thing was the series of food shortages in 89'-90' and 1991 as the country was collapsing.

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>>59823514
>challenging aussies to a shitpost battle

>>59828362
>>59828362
Wonder how much corporate subsidies there are in Great Britain?
The £93bn handshake: businesses pocket huge subsidies and tax ...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/07/corporate-welfare-a-93bn-handshake

Jul 7, 2015 ... Corporate welfare is part of what David Cameron calls his government's policy to make the UK “the most open, welcoming, business-friendly

Cut benefits? Yes, let's start with our £85bn corporate welfare handout

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/06/benefits-corporate-welfare-research-public-money-businesses

Oct 6, 2014 ... Hardly ever discussed is corporate welfare: the grants and ... paid less in corporation tax to the UK than it had received in government grants.

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£93bn of corporate welfare? What nonsense | FT Data - Blogs

http://blogs.ft.com/ftdata/2015/09/28/93bn-of-corporate-welfare-what-nonsense/

Sep 28, 2015 ... First of all, the very concept of “corporate welfare” is tricky and ... This sounds more sensible – after all, Serco's total UK revenues for 2014 were ...

>>59828697
Or America

>>59828409
>capitalism fuels innovation?
Yes
>That's a myth. Why do you think so many scientists are leftists?
They arent historians.
>Most inventors don't invent things for money.
A paycheck is money, a salary is money. Nobody does things for free. Volunteers get paid in feels, interns in opportunity.

Communism depends on flawed assumptions about humanity which are popular to those with a childish worldview. Things are reduced to a simple matter of good vs evil, and it's promised that "people will be good to each other because the system says so".

This relies on the flawed assumption that human behaviour is regulated by the political system. People aren't going to say "Should I work harder to support my weaker, stupider, lazier neighbour? Well, the system says so, so I will!"

Capitalism works because it leverages human nature in a constructive manner. The fact that humans suck shit isn't due to capitalism making them that way. Look at what shitheads people in the commie countries all were. Constantly betraying their own family members to try to prove their own zeal. I suppose the corrupting influence of capitalism got to them and made them that way, eh? How convenient..

>>59827136
IIRC that's from 1990ish. You'd be hard-pressed to find a society that had lots of food while it was collapsing.

>>59828362
And how much American Corporate Subsidies in the USA?

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2013/09/23/add-it-average-american-family-pays-6000-year-subsidies-big-business

http://www.goodjobsfirst.org/corporate-subsidy-watch

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/03/17/the-united-states-of-subsidies-the-biggest-corporate-winners-in-each-state/

http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/high-on-the-hog-the-top-8-corporate-welfare-recipients.html/?a=viewall

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_welfare

http://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2014/03/14/where-is-the-outrage-over-corporate-welfare/

http://thinkbynumbers.org/government-spending/corporate-welfare/corporate-welfare-statistics-vs-social-welfare-statistics/

Well... they say the MEDICARE/MEDICAID is all Corporate Welfare that pushes Health Care cost higher too.

- So US Corporate Subsidies must be at least $1 Trillion a year which is the Medicare/Medicaid budget... but then think of our $1 Trillion a year MIC High Tech Budget... US School Funding for K-12 is also $1 Trillion so think of the Text Books in K-12 & College System

- US Presidential Races are now at $1 Billion, so add on the Lobbying and Gift to Politicians as an Aspect

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>>59827220

>>59823514
because mah clapitalism
because mah jewish controlled banks
because i am american and conditioned to think communism is a shit

>>59828576
>if you fixed the issues of abuse of authority

And there's the rub. Who's going to fix it? Who's going to enforce it? You need a completely benign leadership for the utopian ideal of communism to work. This is the type peopel say has never been tried. It's the one in their heads and on paper and it will stay that way.

The only way this could ever work is if we figure out a way to keep anyone who is selfish, corruptable or sociopathic out of power.

It will never happen.

I would take communism on the condition that all the niggers and other mudshits get removed

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>>59828670

Better than getting none at all desu

You dont realize how common hunger is outside the west.

I mean, you can sit there and insult it all you want, but communism isnt really for people like you, its for people like them.

>>59827287
Most death tolls that high are from either blatant propaganda sources or paid CIA shills. The few remaining are still grossly overestimating. I'm no demographer, but the most likely death toll is around two thirds of that number.

>>59828934

Artificial Intelligence

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>>59824062
The world will never be purged of greedy, selfish people. Get a fucking grip on reality

>>59827311
Look up the exhaustive list of Soviet innovations and discoveries.

>>59828479
>some gas station attendant has the idea for a warp drive in the works right now.

LOL NO

If he's so smart why is he at a fucking gas station attendant?

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>>59828479
>The communist space program absolutely slaughtered the capitalist space program.

Um no it didn't.

>>59823514
Well mass murder and starving/freezing to death come to mind.

Why don't you take a trip to North Korea and see how swell it is?

>>59829003
>You dont realize how common hunger is outside the west

Africa is experiencing an obesity epidemic.

>>59828362
Have to subjtract govt spending from GDP.

$1.1 Trillion for Education
$1 Trillion for Annual MIC Spending
$1 Trillion for Medicare/Medicaid

hm...


What about Rent Seeking Transactions, reselling an Asset or Service for higher Price, but adding no value to the USA? Like Derivatives. Like Hypothication and Rehypothication in Financial Instruments?

What about the Inflation that drives us to work and earn more than $1 Million so we can retire some day.

Like HealthCare inflation
Like Education Inflation
Like Housing Inflation

hm,,, Usury is a drag on the Econmy since 1982 or maybe 1980.

But late 1970s saw the high inflation reach 20% in the 1980s.

Debt must be dealt with. $60 Trillion total in USA.

But looks like we lost at least 10 Million Bread Winner Jobs in Globalization.

>>59827691
No it's admitted in Western sources released decades later. Stalin was a psychopath.

>>59829121

>First people in Space
>First animals in Space
>Not better

They worked faster, and more efficiently then the USA

>>59824062
>an abstract idea

Are you 4?

Money has been around longer than all the languages we speak.

>>59823514
Soviet Union invented section 8 housing.

>>59829174
Doesn't excuse that it's the go to copout for Commies.

>>59827950
Cuba is poor by our standards monetarily but the average Cuban working class family is better off than the average working class family in Belize or El Salvador. Life expectancy is higher than in the USA despite a crippling embargo.

>>59829040
Cold, calculating, purely logical artificial intelligence decides certain people aren't pulling their weight and in it's brutal efficiency and for the betterment of all decides we need to kill them all?

Wat do?

I would much prefer National Socialsm

>>59829204
Their german scientists held at gunpoint worked faster than the USA (except when it came to actually going anywhere *in* space, like the Moon) because they wanted to draw attention from the starving masses you ignorant danger to the human race.

>political ideology that props up "the oppressed"
>no niggers
They're already the biggest gommies. They love Bernie and BLM.

Fuck off. Communism is harmful to the human race and always results in mass deaths.

>>59823514
>no niggers
>implying
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Afro-Asian_Solidarity_Committee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples'_Friendship_University_of_Russia
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>>59823514
>communisms
>no religion

You understand that the only time the communists oppressed the church was at the beginning, and they used it as a pretext to literally loot churches of their gold and silver decorations. Afterwards, the soviets left the church alone because they had nothing left to steal. Aethism in a socialist state is a pretext to steal religious wealth, not an actual philosophical opposition to the concept of religion.

>>59824062
>I'm studying to be a doctor and would still do it if it paid minimum wage.

Get a load of this faggot. Let's see how long it takes until this leftist gets mugged by reality >>59829294

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>>59823514
>Whats wrong with communism?
Nothing.
COMMUNISM IS A CODEWORD FOR ANTI-KIKE

>>59829364
Long before that humans will no longer be able to do anything better or cheaper than a computer will be able to do and start focusing on other things. If a computer decided to wipe out everything that was inefficient the human race would be wiped out.

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>no religion
How is this supposed to convince me?

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>>59829364
An AI put in charge would be glorious.

It would exterminate all Communist schools of thought with extreme prejudice.

>>59823514
>literally no niggers

Cuba, Angola, USSR, pretty much all Murrican and European commies worship black cock

>no religion

God of Equality, North Korea's worship of the Kims

>no muslims

USSR

>everyone gets equal pay

Yeah, everyone gets paid less than Murrifat minimum wage, except those whose families was connected to be on the party's elites.

Physicist here. If pay is equal I will just get a job at mcdonalds

>>59828202
Your average white American worker circa 1960 was very well off, and working Americans today are generally not too shabby. Still, they're the minority by far. The working class of the world is spread throughout countries like India, South Africa, Mexico, and Indonesia. Workers there live horribly, even compared to the poor in the USSR circa 1964.

>>59829411

>All technological advances of the USSR were done by German scientists.

top kuck.

So I suppose the American moon landing was only possible because of former Nazi scientist Wernher von Braun (who helped found NASA) right? Americans are just stupid idiots it was the Nazis who did it all along!

>>59829518
But kikes invented communism, Trotsky was Jewish, and Stalin was against anti-semitism. It's the most pro-Jewish thing ever.

>>59829347
>cuban life expectancy
>believing statistics published by communists

If Kim Jong Un said no Koreans were starving would you believe him?

>>59824062
greedy selfish people push us forward as a race, in moderation those are not terrible traits

>>59829411
That's bullshit m8 the Russians have been contributing to science and technology for centuries. The fucking periodic table was invented by a Russian.

>>59829458
>Marxism-Leninism advocates the suppression and ultimately the disappearance of religious beliefs, considering them to be "unscientific" and "superstitious". In the 1920s and 1930s, such organizations as the League of the Militant Godless were active in anti-religious propaganda. Atheism was the norm in schools, communist organizations (such as the Young Pioneer Organization), and the media.
They were playing the long game and knew that with enough time religious thought would die out. It's a shame that them being atheist gave the cia so much fuel in the heavily religious middle east and south america.

>>59826042
>Trump
>Inherit billions
Opinion discarded

>>59829691
>top kuck

Because all these anons are making you face reality and you have nothing smarter to say.

>>59829672
that's retarded if the only thing you want from your job is money why don't you just go work in finance and make 100x what you would do as a physicist.

>>59829858

Nice way to completely ignore my point about former Nazi scientists basically paving the way for Americans to go to the moon. I bet you didn't even know one of the founding members of NASA was a Nazi. You are a special kind of retard. Russians have been pioneers in science, technology and medicine, long before the Nazi Empire.

>>59829898
>people should work harder for no reason :^)

>>59823514
>literally no niggers

Russia/Cuba kept crying about how bad niggers were treated in the U.S during the cold war.

>>59829691
make no mistake, if the Nazis had won we would probably have at least tried to have a base on the moon

>>59827997
>Access to information does not matter
>Technology does not matter
>Someone owns it so it must be bad

Are you fucking kidding me.

>>59829972
So you admit Communism contributed nothing.

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>>59823514
>literally no niggers
do an image search of "Cuban People" and tell me there are no niggers

>>59830079

Oh Jesus christ, did you not look at the list of Soviet Inventions? Do I need to paste the link for your inept fat fingers? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Soviet_inventions

>>59823514
>Whats wrong with communism?
Mass killing.
Doesn't work.

Nice attempt at sliding leftypol comrade, but you need to drop the idpol to stay true to the movement.

>>59830175
I bet it's less than America's.

>>59827927
>"one the Cold War"

Nice proxy shitskin

>>59823514
>no religion
There's your problem

>>59826043
Very untrue

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>>59823514

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>>59830175
Just looked. Looks like mostly war and space shit.

They pumped everything they had into that while the people lived like this in 1991.

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>>59829708
>Stalin was against anti-semitism

>>59830278

>lol commies contribute nothing xD
>holy shit they did but i bet we're better!

"American" invention consist of inventions created by immigrants. You have no inventions and no culture. You're a joke.

Actually you do have one invention. The Big Mac.

>>59829804
Before communism took over

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>>59830402
>>59823514
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.
Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism. In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty." - Stalin

>>59829691
>Be on /pol/
>Thinking bringing up nazis will scare people

>>59829726
The statistics I found weren't from the Cuban government IIRC.

>>59830402
The revolutionaries in Germany were against the Bolsheviks. Strictly anti-authoritarian.

>>59830440
So you admit the US has more inventions.

>Big Mac

Is that supposed to be an insult? The world loves Big Macs. The fuck has the USSR made gastronomically on par? The fuck has even Canada made? Poutine?

Sandnigger please.

>>59830430
>Stalin was not against anti semitism
I beg to differ.
>>59830609

>>59830430
That source is bullshit.

>>59823514
>>literally no niggers
Cuba

>>59830980

>So you admit lol
>So you admit

I'm not admitting anything. What is this a fucking cross examination? Your US inventions are not even invented by home grown Americans. Your native population is so fucking stupid most of the STEM jobs go to people from China, India, and other countries via the H1-B. God damn you have a thick skull. Kill yourself.

>>59831245
Because of the opportunity they wouldn't have in a Commie country.

You reinforce the shittiness of Communism.

>>59823514
why do people even post these threads?
there's history to learn, go fucking learn it.

>>59831422

>implying the inventors that invented things in the USA all came from communist countries

A minority did, but the majority did not. India is not a communist country. Most Middle Eastern countries and other Asian countries are not communist. Checkmate.

>>59831245
>Your US inventions are not even invented by home grown Americans
Thomas Edison - Ohio
Willis Carrier - New York
Charles Goodyear - Connecticut
Samuel F.B. Morse - Massachusetts
Robert Fulton - Pennsylvania
Dr. Jonas Salk - New York

Yep look at all those Immigrants

>>59823514
>literally no niggers
Getting handouts from the government will turn literally everyone into niggers.

>>59823731

First communist response is best response.

It would be a fantastic system if it weren't for fucking humans.

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Good work, /pol/. Nothing but commie ass-ravaging ITT.

>>59823731
>>59823831
/thread
Bye!

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>>59826803
>communist calling others parasites

>>59829691
Nazi science actually did help a lot. You must be fresh off the boat from reddit if you think throwing nazi accusations around will do anything but give /pol/tards erections.

>>59823718
>implying they aren't already

Nasa scientists carpool.

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>>59830440
>American" invention consist of inventions created by immigrants. You have no inventions and no culture. You're a joke.
>says the Canadian

Are you being ironic on purpose?

>>59834441

I'd be smiling too if I was killing that many jews.

>>59823514
>no niggers
Is that what your little red book told you Shen?

>>59823514
>Gulags
>Shit living conditions
>Secret police kicking in your door
>Mass graves
>Food rationing
>Constant threat of war
>Censorship
>No free speech
>No money

>>59823514
There is no such thing as universal equality

>>59834643
>Nazis
>Killing jews past 1936
Nigger please

>>59830440
>commie countries so shitty people have to leave to make scientific breakthroughs

>>59834751
?????

>tfw not living in a commie shithole

feels great man

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>>59828829

>citing the French Communards as a successful work of Socialism

Eating rats is a sign of success, guys.

>>59826043
Yetlsin quit the communism thing because in that year they wouldn't produce enough to feed the people or have money to buy the food.

>>59823514
>>everyone gets equal pay
>retards get equal pay
no thanks.

>>59829003
All those starvin marvins came about because of warlords cutting water and other supplies, many of these warlords wanted to implement communist ideals too.

>>59828829
Thanks for posting this.

Kinda ridiculous when people deny that the powers that be absolutely hate potentially positive reforms in developing nations. The U.S.A. and Britain's intervention int he Russian Civil war is largely responsible for 90% of the problems in Russia still.

If half the people on this forum read a history book instead of spouting memes the world would be a better place.

>>59823514
What's even the point of equal pay?
I might aswell become a waiter instead of an engineer in that case.

I believe everyone should be provided with the basic needs; food, housing, water, electricity, clothing, etc. but by no means should their economic freedom be limited.

What would that make me?

>>59824062
No you wouldn't, you're a blithering idiot. Communism = everyone's equal in misery and suffering, except for the political elite.

>>59823514
it will eventually lead to total collapse because the weakest members aren't allowed to fail and the strongest members aren't allowed to excel. it's anti-natural selection.

>>59823514
>literally no niggers
shit thread
sage

I seriously believe these commie baiting threads are made by someone trying to keep anti left sentiment sharp and ready.

>>59829347
I saw a documentary, a simple one. I know one documentary is not enough to tell a trend, but if one half assed filming crew could go to cuba and film dozens of people fishing on the sea, and getting nothing because everyone is fishing and exhausting the easy catch, because the food ration is not enough, if they could film dozens of people telling them there is not enough food, no jobs, no perspective of improvement, then it's not hard to find it.

>>59823514
That's not what communism actually is, friend. Communism allows for people more primary to the success of the community to be rewarded moreso than their peers. This is more obvious in the socialist model, but it's still true in communism.